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2012-11-20 02:28:55 PM
Yeah... botched that. "None" should be "all", of course.
 
2012-11-20 02:29:07 PM

Granny_Panties: Enough is enough. It's time for Christie to switch parties.


Umm, No.
 
2012-11-20 02:30:04 PM
The best part is Obama has taken over Clinton as the guy a lot of the right loves to irrationally hate. And the way he's trolled the GOP and Tea Baggers, he's gonna be at No. 1 for a long, long time.
 
2012-11-20 02:30:20 PM

sprawl15: StreetlightInTheGhetto: what_now: Tell me Mitt, why did you lose all of your home states again.

He just didn't sound sincere when he was complimenting the Trees in Michigan. Especially once it came out that he once punched a tree? Dude. You're like an abusive boyfriend, all complimenting the trees one minute and punching them the next.

/also Let Detroit Go Bankrupt etc.

He once got a couple guys together in high school to hold down a hedge and 'take a bit off the top'.


Damn unkempt trees all up in his face all the time. A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.

cdn.theatlanticwire.com
 
2012-11-20 02:30:38 PM

catchow: FooDog: Tally so far...

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove
Blacks
Single women
Hispanics
Young people
Gays
Math
Nate Silver
Liberal Media
Chrysler
Tropical storm Isaac
Tax returns
American Red Cross
New Black Panthers
St. Vincent DePaul Soup Kitchen
Roof Dogs
Bureau of Labor Statistics

Big Bird


The Media.
 
2012-11-20 02:30:40 PM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Granny_Panties: Enough is enough. It's time for Christie to switch parties.

It really isn't.

I give the man props when he has them due, and not standing for BS is most often the reason I end up doing so. But no.


I could see him going independent if he gets enough crap from inside the GOP - but Chris isn't going Dem.
 
2012-11-20 02:35:07 PM

jso2897: I could see him going independent if he gets enough crap from inside the GOP - but Chris isn't going Dem.


I wonder if there's still a grassroots movement in the GOP to get him to run for prez... :D
 
2012-11-20 02:35:31 PM

Muta: catchow: FooDog: Tally so far...

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove
Blacks
Single women
Hispanics
Young people
Gays
Math
Nate Silver
Liberal Media
Chrysler
Tropical storm Isaac
Tax returns
American Red Cross
New Black Panthers
St. Vincent DePaul Soup Kitchen
Roof Dogs
Bureau of Labor Statistics

Big Bird

The Media.


Harry Reid and other liberal Mormons (MINOs?)
 
2012-11-20 02:37:49 PM

timujin: I challenge anyone to find a statistically relevant number of people who say they changed their vote from Romney to Obama because of anything to do with Christie.


It's a gut feeling that you liberal elites wouldn't understand.
 
2012-11-20 02:37:58 PM
No honor amongst thieves...

GOP was pretty ugly before the election, still ugly now.

might do better in the next election if they worked on their humanity a bit.
 
2012-11-20 02:39:23 PM

jasimo: FooDog: Shrugging Atlas: We're going to have to start keeping a new list: Reasons Mitt Romney Lost The Election because it still seems to be growing by the day.

Ok, I'll start:

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove


NOT ROMNEY

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove
Blacks
Single women
Hispanics
Young people
Gays
Nate Silver

NOT ROMNEY


and don't forget: CLINT!
 
2012-11-20 02:39:26 PM
If someone is arrested for public urination,
will they be tried by a jury of peers?
 
2012-11-20 02:44:10 PM
He had no chance of winning NY or NJ. This is just meaningless finger-pointing. He needs to accept the fact that his message does not sell to over half of the country (you know the ones who want free stuff)
 
2012-11-20 02:45:05 PM

not5am: lordjupiter: So they want to get rid of FEMA because the states can handle disasters that cripple the, um, state...

don't forget how he said they should cut policemen and firefigthers earlier in the year and then that massive wildfire broke out. i can't believe that happened with mitt twice!


Oooh, epic troll opportunity.
Romney fan: Romney only lost because of the wildfire and the hurricane!
Us: so, Acts of God, as the insurance biz calls them?
RF: Yes!
Us: So what you're saying is, God made Romney lose?

Then wrap that guy's head in copper, stick him between two magnets, and solve the energy crisis, cause you're going to see more spin than you can count.
 
2012-11-20 02:45:42 PM

Mercutio74: jso2897: I could see him going independent if he gets enough crap from inside the GOP - but Chris isn't going Dem.

I wonder if there's still a grassroots movement in the GOP to get him to run for prez... :D


He's getting whacked pretty hard by the right-wing media noise machine. He'll be up for re-election in 2014; how the GOP treats him in the primary will be a good indicator of his internal party standing and his prospects for 2016.
 
2012-11-20 02:46:38 PM
He needs to do two things:

1. Shut the fark up.

2. Grow the fark up.

What a farking baby. And to think almost half of the voters wanted this whiny sack of shiat to be given control of the country.
 
2012-11-20 02:47:13 PM

impaler: VJStinger: FooDog: Tally so far...

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove
Blacks
Single women
Hispanics
Young people
Gays
Math
Nate Silver
Liberal Media
Chrysler
Tropical storm Isaac
Tax returns
American Red Cross
New Black Panthers
St. Vincent DePaul Soup Kitchen
Roof Dogs
Bureau of Labor Statistics
Internal combustion engines
Trees not of the right height
The Star Spangled Banner

/ just a few more

Voters



Jeep. 
 
2012-11-20 02:47:15 PM

ArgusRun: Dimensio:
As a four point poll shift in every swing state would have been required for Mr. Romney to have won the election, I also understand the blame assigned to Governor Christie: admitting error is a sign of weakness.

And this is what I will never understand. It's not a sign of weakness. Admitting a mistake is a sign of strength. It says I'm secure enough that an error won't ruin me. Refusing to admit a mistake is a sign of weakness. It means I'm afraid that one mistake will make people think less of me. That I will be fired or people won't like me anymore.

The only thing that is worse is someone who blames someone else for their own mistake. That's not weakness, that meanness.

The staffers feal weak and they're lashing out. I get it. But it telegraphs weakness, not strength.

What I don't understand is Mitt. He has enough money to have clout anywhere he decides to hang his hat. (Besides the political ring) If he simply said he got beat, disappeared for a year and then set up a big foundation, he'd be fine. Instead he's hissing and spitting and lashing out, and I don't get it.


Mitt Romney is an asshole. Film at 11.
 
2012-11-20 02:47:49 PM
I'd like to point out - for future reference - that this debacle of Romney's cluelessness about how he lost is the Numero Uno reason for why businessmen are not intrinsically qualified to lead in any way: business operatives fire and/or disassociate with people that disagree with them; private sector corporations simply aren't capable of operating with multiple working perspectives.

in other words, it was all yes men, all the way down, and who is surprised?
 
2012-11-20 02:52:08 PM

ArgusRun: What I don't understand is Mitt. He has enough money to have clout anywhere he decides to hang his hat. (Besides the political ring) If he simply said he got beat, disappeared for a year and then set up a big foundation, he'd be fine. Instead he's hissing and spitting and lashing out, and I don't get it.


You know all the little disappointments you've had to face throughout your life? Little things like not getting the toy you want for your birthday, doing badly on an exam, they build up a sort of emotional callus that help when you get older and have to deal with more difficult disappointments, such as being teased or humiliated by other kids, not being liked back by a crush. You go through a breakup. The callus is maintained and toughened. And then you maybe don't get into the college you want, you don't get a call back from a few job interviews. Maybe you get fired, maybe you go through a divorce. And that emotional callus helps you to handle the harder stuff with grace. You can even accept that maybe you weren't right for that job. Maybe you and your ex weren't right for each other. All this adds up to an understanding of yourself as a good but still fallible person. That's the self-awareness that most people reach over a lifetime.

Now imagine what your life would be without most of that disappointment and humiliation. You got pretty much everything you wanted starting at a young age. You've never lost a job. You've never been through a break-up. You've been successful in everything and have made it to sixty-five years of age without having to suffer any real disappointments, and this has left your emotional defenses against disappointment as soft as a newborn's belly. Now imagine going from that to facing total humiliation on a national scale, being rejected, for the first time, not by a girl you like, but by a majority of Americans voters. How do you think your psyche would handle that?

I don't have a lot of sympathy for the guy, but I can understand why he's reacting badly.
 
2012-11-20 02:57:35 PM

Maud Dib: impaler: VJStinger: FooDog: Tally so far...

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove
Blacks
Single women
Hispanics
Young people
Gays
Math
Nate Silver
Liberal Media
Chrysler
Tropical storm Isaac
Tax returns
American Red Cross
New Black Panthers
St. Vincent DePaul Soup Kitchen
Roof Dogs
Bureau of Labor Statistics
Internal combustion engines
Trees not of the right height
The Star Spangled Banner

/ just a few more

Voters


Jeep.


too many primary debates.
 
2012-11-20 02:58:28 PM
Romney's political advisers found that a large number of voters who were undecided toward the end wound up voting Obama

They all gotta be assholes, so I'm surprised they didn't vote for Romney.
 
2012-11-20 02:59:14 PM

MSFT: Dimensio: morlinge: I'd also like to bring up the recent post about barackofraudo.com claiming that the election was stolen.

I examined this website. Apparently the author believes that Mr. Romney was entitled to a certain percentage of votes from certain urban areas and that him receiving a lower percentage is proof that electoral fraud occurred. I do not believe that the author understands how electoral fraud works.

Their sense of self-entitlement knows no upper bounds.But God help the poor person who wants access to preventative health care....


People who get cancer without being able to afford treatment are irresponsible.
 
2012-11-20 03:05:35 PM

Dimensio: morlinge: I'd also like to bring up the recent post about barackofraudo.com claiming that the election was stolen.

I examined this website. Apparently the author believes that Mr. Romney was entitled to a certain percentage of votes from certain urban areas and that him receiving a lower percentage is proof that electoral fraud occurred. I do not believe that the author understands how electoral fraud works.


Exactly the proof that there must be voter fraud is that they didn't get votes. Obviously they should have had millions of votes everywhere. So the fact that they didn't is proof of fraud. Q.E.D.
 
2012-11-20 03:07:19 PM

qorkfiend: rufus-t-firefly: Dimensio: Is the "Obamaphone" a subset of "Obama's gifts", or does it require a separate listing?

THIS.

I need a detailed list. I voted for Obama in 2008 and didn't get anything, but I still voted for him this year, so I farking better get one of the gifts I keep hearing so farking much about.

We got the corpse of Osama bin Laden feeding the fish at the bottom of the Indian Ocean. So there's that, at least.


He didn't kill that.
 
2012-11-20 03:14:27 PM

Generation_D: So basically Republicans suck if they win and suck if they lose.

But when they lose is a hell of a lot better for the country.


The GOP has made "Obama can't do anything right" their platform for the past 3 years. To have one of their leaders say otherwise that close to the election is pretty damaging.
 
2012-11-20 03:16:03 PM

flux: Now imagine what your life would be without most of that disappointment and humiliation. You got pretty much everything you wanted starting at a young age. You've never lost a job. You've never been through a break-up. You've been successful in everything and have made it to sixty-five years of age without having to suffer any real disappointments, and this has left your emotional defenses against disappointment as soft as a newborn's belly. Now imagine going from that to facing total humiliation on a national scale, being rejected, for the first time, not by a girl you like, but by a majority of Americans voters. How do you think your psyche would handle that?

I don't have a lot of sympathy for the guy, but I can understand why he's reacting badly.


Because he's an emotionally stunted Man-Baby who doesn't know how to handle failure.

yeah, I can see that
 
2012-11-20 03:21:05 PM

MSFT: timujin: I challenge anyone to find a statistically relevant number of people who say they changed their vote from Romney to Obama because of anything to do with Christie.

It's a gut feeling that you liberal elites wouldn't understand.


Kind of like dysentery?
 
2012-11-20 03:25:07 PM

VJStinger: FooDog: Tally so far...

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove
Blacks
Single women
Hispanics
Young people
Gays
Math
Nate Silver
Liberal Media
Chrysler
Tropical storm Isaac
Tax returns
American Red Cross
New Black Panthers
St. Vincent DePaul Soup Kitchen
Roof Dogs
Bureau of Labor Statistics
Internal combustion engines
Trees not of the right height
The Star Spangled Banner America the Beautiful


That will go down in history as one of the most effective campaign ads ever.
 
2012-11-20 03:26:10 PM

jso2897: MSFT: timujin: I challenge anyone to find a statistically relevant number of people who say they changed their vote from Romney to Obama because of anything to do with Christie.

It's a gut feeling that you liberal elites wouldn't understand.

Kind of like dysentery?


Goddammit I'm at the doctor's office. Gonna be awkward walking past the nurses station right outside of the door now.
 
2012-11-20 03:30:07 PM

Dimensio: qorkfiend: rufus-t-firefly: Dimensio: Is the "Obamaphone" a subset of "Obama's gifts", or does it require a separate listing?

THIS.

I need a detailed list. I voted for Obama in 2008 and didn't get anything, but I still voted for him this year, so I farking better get one of the gifts I keep hearing so farking much about.

We got the corpse of Osama bin Laden feeding the fish at the bottom of the Indian Ocean. So there's that, at least.

He didn't kill that.


Yeah, and Caesar didn't conquer Gaul. Pull the other one, it has bells on it. Yeah, like that. Aw yeah.
 
2012-11-20 03:32:36 PM
s10.postimage.org


/just because I had the code still copypasta'd
 
2012-11-20 03:38:07 PM

FooDog: Tally so far...

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove
Blacks
Single women
Hispanics
Young people
Gays
Math
Nate Silver
Liberal Media
Chrysler
Tropical storm Isaac
Tax returns
American Red Cross
New Black Panthers
St. Vincent DePaul Soup Kitchen
Roof Dogs
Bureau of Labor Statistics


People who own kitchen appliances

Not sure if it had been added yet, must continue to read the thread.
 
2012-11-20 03:47:21 PM

thepostess: FooDog: Tally so far...

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove
Blacks
Single women
Hispanics
Young people
Gays
Math
Nate Silver
Liberal Media
Chrysler
Tropical storm Isaac
Tax returns
American Red Cross
New Black Panthers
St. Vincent DePaul Soup Kitchen
Roof Dogs
Bureau of Labor Statistics

People who own kitchen appliances

Not sure if it had been added yet, must continue to read the thread.




Horses, bayonets and binders full of women
 
2012-11-20 03:47:41 PM
To paraphrase someone from this website the day after the election:

If Chris Christie saying a few nice things about Obama during a time of national crisis was enough to override $1.3 billion being spent on getting your message out to the masses, perhaps it was that your message was the problem.
 
2012-11-20 03:52:00 PM
s10.postimage.org 

Romney looks like he is rubbing one out in his right hand pocket.

/Killing kittens since Nov 7 2012.
 
2012-11-20 03:52:17 PM
I don't like Christie. I don't care for his politics.

But I'll be damned if he gets saddled with the excuse of the entirety of the GOP/Teabagger bunch for speaking his mind at a time of crisis for his state.

He was doing his job, the job he was elected to do, and insofar as I can tell he wasn't farking around.

These douchebags need to look in a mirror to realize why they did so badly in this election.
 
2012-11-20 03:57:26 PM

lordjupiter: thepostess: FooDog: Tally so far...

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove
Blacks
Single women
Hispanics
Young people
Gays
Math
Nate Silver
Liberal Media
Chrysler
Tropical storm Isaac
Tax returns
American Red Cross
New Black Panthers
St. Vincent DePaul Soup Kitchen
Roof Dogs
Bureau of Labor Statistics

People who own kitchen appliances

Not sure if it had been added yet, must continue to read the thread.



Horses, bayonets and binders full of women


Let's just all agree that the list is ever-expanding, and whenever it's needed to call upon it, rather than list each co-conspirator, we do what conservatives do, and bunch them all up in one amalgam we'll refer to as, "those people." (italics for the sneer that is supposed to accompany that word)
 
2012-11-20 04:05:03 PM

MSFT: timujin: I challenge anyone to find a statistically relevant number of people who say they changed their vote from Romney to Obama because of anything to do with Christie.

It's a gut feeling that you liberal elites wouldn't understand.


Look, I get that, based on what happened during the election, the current crop of Republicans don't really like math, statistics, or polling...

But if this is their contention, that it was Christie that lost them the election, then it's pretty easy to find out for sure. Take some of that leftover PAC money and hire a polling agency (I would recommend against Gallup) to call up voters, find out who they voted for and if they changed their vote. If they did so, then why they changed it. That's the kind of information that could help shape their next run. Or they can just keep feeling around in the dark, hoping their gut tells them the right thing to do.
 
2012-11-20 04:06:43 PM
honkie biatch lib woulda beat mit's ass 65-35

honkie "UNDECIDED" negra haters represented 15% of total voters
how come nobody reflects on this obvious fact.

fatso christy saw rmoney as a loser from the getgo. now he's got a realistic shot at 2016 running as a smart mouth "moderate". starts his weightatchers program jan 1
 
2012-11-20 04:10:07 PM
You know what? If Romney did pick Christie, he might very well have won the election. The relief efforts after Hurricane Sandy could have been seen as proof of how "Presidential" Christie was and this would have been a boost for the gop side.

However, Romney's filthy rich handlers (Hi, Sheldon) instead demanded a Randian zealot like Paul Ryan to be the next Sarah Palin, and between the "47% video" and the general "f*ck the poor!" attitude, Romney's goose was cooked.

And further irony shows that Christie IS what the future of the gop should look like if they ever, EVER, want to see the inside of the White House ever again.

IMO, I hope Christie never runs for President. The right wing kingmakers and moneybrokers would corrupt him just as terribly as they did to McCain. Just look at what they did to that guy.
 
2012-11-20 04:22:26 PM

TV's Vinnie: IMO, I hope Christie never runs for President. The right wing kingmakers and moneybrokers would corrupt him just as terribly as they did to McCain. Just look at what they did to that guy.


Right, because before that, John McCain was really upstanding and ethical.

images.usatoday.com

Why, hello there, Charles Keating! What are you doing here?
 
2012-11-20 04:25:42 PM

timujin: MSFT: timujin: I challenge anyone to find a statistically relevant number of people who say they changed their vote from Romney to Obama because of anything to do with Christie.

It's a gut feeling that you liberal elites wouldn't understand.

Look, I get that, based on what happened during the election, the current crop of Republicans don't really like math, statistics, or polling...

But if this is their contention, that it was Christie that lost them the election, then it's pretty easy to find out for sure. Take some of that leftover PAC money and hire a polling agency (I would recommend against Gallup) to call up voters, find out who they voted for and if they changed their vote. If they did so, then why they changed it. That's the kind of information that could help shape their next run. Or they can just keep feeling around in the dark, hoping their gut tells them the right thing to do.


No. Like the age of the earth, it will always be unknowable and a source of wonder.
Best to leave it up to theologians and political pundits.
 
2012-11-20 04:45:57 PM

Kevin72: lordjupiter: peter21: Let's try to look at this objectively here. What did the Romney campaign do right?

But yeah, it was Chris Christie's fault.


Romney wasn't even in the ballgame until Obama slept through the first debate. If Obama hadn't let Romney get that little bit of momentum, none of this last-minute fingerpointing would be taking place. They'd be pointing fingers, of course, but they'd be blaming things that are more long-term.

That first debate is how Obama not only defeated Romney, but how Obama rope-a-doped the entire Republican and Tea Parties.


Mentat: Obama's strategy for the next four years should be to troll the hell out of every viable Republican candidate by being nice to him. Shake Paul Ryan's hand on camera and say, "I was really worried when they picked you for Veep." High five Christie. Slap Scott Walker onthe back and say "Congratulations on the recall."


Trollbama enters the pantheon of troll-gods
 
2012-11-20 05:10:26 PM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: [i.imgur.com image 600x330]

This picture should win a Pulitzer.


Someone please photoshop this with Gas Station Romney?

/tia
 
2012-11-20 05:14:25 PM
That's it GOP. Keep crapping on Republicans who are effective in their job. The sooner the sane ones break off and start their own party, the better.
 
2012-11-20 05:15:47 PM

Lando Lincoln: Because that might cast doubt on the Republican message. And we all know their message is fine.


If anything, their message should have been even more hard line. They really need to double down on chastising the poor and the sluts if they want to win America's hearts and minds. That and moar tax cuts.
 
2012-11-20 05:42:47 PM

ArgusRun: What I don't understand is Mitt. He has enough money to have clout anywhere he decides to hang his hat. (Besides the political ring) If he simply said he got beat, disappeared for a year and then set up a big foundation, he'd be fine. Instead he's hissing and spitting and lashing out, and I don't get it.


Partly, he thinks he deserves it. This is a man so insulated against the reality of the world in which he lives that he thinks that running into a burning building while it's being shot at is basically the same thing as him running for President. The other part of it, and this is probably connected to why he lost as well, is that he's not a very good politician.
 
2012-11-20 06:46:30 PM

lordjupiter: thepostess: FooDog: Tally so far...

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove
Blacks
Single women
Hispanics
Young people
Gays
Math
Nate Silver
Liberal Media
Chrysler
Tropical storm Isaac
Tax returns
American Red Cross
New Black Panthers
St. Vincent DePaul Soup Kitchen
Roof Dogs
Bureau of Labor Statistics
People who own kitchen appliances
Horses, bayonets and binders full of women


poker-faced empty chair
 
2012-11-20 07:09:51 PM

Dimensio: firefly212: Dear GOP, you didn't get my vote because you openly hate me. I'm one of the working poor who is excited about the prospect of decent health insurance. I'm one of the gay people you think you should be able to deny equal rights to. I'm one of the people who barely contributes via income tax, but still pays a higher effective tax rate (sales, payroll, social security, medicare) than Mitt Romney. I'm one of the people who, when I call for government to actually do something useful for me, you berate and call a "taker," despite your financial adoration of subsidies for everyone who is already doing ok. You can blame Christie, "gifts," hurricanes (or other acts of God), but unless you stop using your policies to try to decide whether lawmakers know whether mj or neurontin has worse side effects, who I can marry, and whether or not my ownership of a refrigerator means I should pay more taxes so our illustrious "job creators" can have another tax break, you're not getting my vote.

You are only proving the Republican narrative correct by putting your own financial well-being and civil liberties above the wishes of Christian theocrats and wealthy business owners who may now be forced to pay 2% more of their annual income to the government.


On a serious note, they really do seem to be portraying everyone who asks the government to do something useful for a change as "greedy" or "moochers." I pay plenty in taxes, is it too much to ask that some of that go towards things useful to me like healthcare or mass transit instead of funding the SEC or buying thousands more tanks than the Army wants? The problem for the GOP is that even if I were moderate (I'm not), they're trying to sell the idea that inefficient government is good, and that only bad people would expect the government to do something useful with their money. I just don't see how they close any of the demographic gaps when they're trying to sell the idea that we should vote for them because they'll continue wasting our money on crap of little to no benefit.
 
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