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2012-11-20 11:46:23 AM  
Mitt's ego?
 
2012-11-20 11:46:38 AM  
Yes, he is technically correct, but, to paraphrase Jon Stewart:

Why is it when a businessman gets "stuff" by using tax loopholes they are called a "smart businessman", but, when a student tries to use student loans or a poor person uses welfare, they are "moochers" just looking for a handout?


That is the thing here. The GOP likes to say that the democrats play with "Class Warfare", but, I think the war started on the other side..... it is kind of hard for Madagascar to start a war with the U.S.
 
2012-11-20 11:48:01 AM  
I guess I missed the part where New Jersey was a key swing state? Or I just imagined the poll analysis prior to Sandy showing that Obama was poised to win?
 
2012-11-20 11:51:54 AM  
John Sununu?
 
2012-11-20 11:52:08 AM  
F*ck you Mitt

/If you want to see why you lost, go look in a mirror
//assuming you have a reflection, since you seem singularly incapable of any
 
2012-11-20 11:53:13 AM  
If anything short of assassination, outright treason, or a video surfacing of you humping a goat happens in the last week before the election, you didn't lose the election because of it. You lost the election because you campaign sucked, pure and simple.

Why is it just so hard for some people to say 'well...we go outplayed'?
 
2012-11-20 11:55:50 AM  
The important thing is to take away from this is that it was someone else's fault.

Party of personal responsibility.
 
2012-11-20 11:58:30 AM  
The party of personal responsibility continues to shirk personal responsibility.
 
2012-11-20 11:58:59 AM  
The election was two weeks ago. People didn't buy into your bold-faced bullsh*t, that's why you lost.

Get. Over. It.
 
2012-11-20 12:00:22 PM  

whistleridge: Why is it just so hard for some people to say 'well...we go outplayed'?


Republicans don't lose gracefully. see: West, Allen.
 
2012-11-20 12:01:48 PM  
If the comments of a Blue State governor less than 2 weeks prior to the election were enough to destroy your chances perhaps your campaign really wasn't that solid to begin with. The country had over a year to get to know you Mitt and you could not convince more than 48% or so in all that time that you were the right choice.

/remove the mote from your own eye
 
2012-11-20 12:03:30 PM  

JerseyTim: John Sununu?


Thank you. I assumed that the reason the GOP trotted him out so often this summer was because all of the sane ones tried to sit this one out. I'm old enough to know that this guy's been a gasbag for decades.
 
2012-11-20 12:09:14 PM  

ManateeGag: whistleridge: Why is it just so hard for some people to say 'well...we go outplayed'?

Republicans don't lose gracefully. see: West, Allen.


Or win gracefully, either. Else my memories of GloatFest 04/05 are sadly mistaken.
 
2012-11-20 12:12:48 PM  

whistleridge: ManateeGag: whistleridge: Why is it just so hard for some people to say 'well...we go outplayed'?

Republicans don't lose gracefully. see: West, Allen.

Or win gracefully, either. Else my memories of GloatFest 04/05 are sadly mistaken.


Face it: elephants are just not very graceful
 
2012-11-20 12:26:34 PM  
So basically Republicans suck if they win and suck if they lose.

But when they lose is a hell of a lot better for the country.
 
2012-11-20 12:31:03 PM  
New Jersey totally would have voted for Romney, but they got so confused by seeing their governor speak to the President, that they all decided to vote for him.

Tell me Mitt, why did you lose all of your home states again.
 
2012-11-20 12:31:49 PM  
Geez....how many reasons are they going to invent as opposed to accepting the simple fact that Mitt Romney is a political turd that finally got flushed down the candidate commode?

Then again, this is the GOP, so I suppose this whining will go on forever.   
 
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2012-11-20 12:34:07 PM  
Mittens is far too wonderful to ever lose at anything. It must be someone else's fault.
 
2012-11-20 12:40:44 PM  

whistleridge: Why is it just so hard for some people to say 'well...we go outplayed'?


Because that might cast doubt on the Republican message. And we all know their message is fine.
 
2012-11-20 12:50:56 PM  

whistleridge: Why is it just so hard for some people to say 'well...we go outplayed'?


Hang around the Sports Tab to find out.
 
2012-11-20 12:55:38 PM  

dletter: Yes, he is technically correct, but, to paraphrase Jon Stewart:

Why is it when a businessman gets "stuff" by using tax loopholes they are called a "smart businessman", but, when a student tries to use student loans or a poor person uses welfare, they are "moochers" just looking for a handout?


That is the thing here. The GOP likes to say that the democrats play with "Class Warfare", but, I think the war started on the other side..... it is kind of hard for Madagascar to start a war with the U.S.


I must have had some other article open, because, I was replying to an article about Romney losing because of the "people want stuff" line, not because Obama acted presidential and the Governor actually thanked him for that, and didn't go "Well, you still suck, get away from me dude".
 
2012-11-20 01:09:10 PM  
He's blaming everyone but himself, isn't he?
Thank God this guy isn't going to be president.
 
2012-11-20 01:16:04 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: whistleridge: Why is it just so hard for some people to say 'well...we go outplayed'?

Hang around the Sports Tab to find out.


Meh. That's just tOSU fans who don't want to hear 'our school can't beat SEC teams'

/ cept in akademicks, cuz SEC skools be dum
 
2012-11-20 01:16:49 PM  
This is what happens when you go your entire life without being told "No".
 
2012-11-20 01:16:54 PM  
Good governance is bad politics - that's Mitt's lesson for the day.
 
2012-11-20 01:20:52 PM  
Christie steps out of the Fox News conservative blogger reality distortion echo chamber bubble to deal with a real life issue and he's the problem.

I could see if they lost because they ran out of cake . . .
 
2012-11-20 01:21:07 PM  
Your Party of Personal ResponsibilityTM, everybody!!!



/do something good, "I BUILT THAT!" do something bad, "IT'S THE GUBMINT'S FAULT!!!"
 
2012-11-20 01:22:19 PM  
Guess Mitt should have released his tax returns and gotten the attention off Christie.
 
2012-11-20 01:22:40 PM  
The party of personal responsibility: it's everybody else fault I lost but my own.
 
2012-11-20 01:22:42 PM  

Ennuipoet: Mitt's ego?


Done in one.
 
2012-11-20 01:22:50 PM  
And this is why you fail.
 
2012-11-20 01:24:16 PM  
We're going to have to start keeping a new list: Reasons Mitt Romney Lost The Election because it still seems to be growing by the day.
 
2012-11-20 01:24:35 PM  
I wonder if this paragraph:

On Sunday a Drudge Report headline criticized Christie for appearing on Saturday Night Live "as residents suffer," and on Monday night he was still being blasted on Fox News's The Five. Co-host Eric Bolling labeled Christie a RINO, and said he "acted like a Democrat" by giving a "slobbering wet kiss to Obama days before the election" and showing up on "Weekend Update" "while Jersey suffers from power outages, destroyed homes, and massive job losses."



has anything to do with the fact that after Christie praised Obama Rupert Murdoch got him on the phone and DEMANDED that Christie publicly "re-endorse" Romney?

and am I the only one bothered by the fact that a guy who own the biggest cable news channel int he country and dozens of newpapers and TV stations around the country, was personally cheeleading for one of the presidential candidates just days before the election?
 
2012-11-20 01:25:10 PM  
pmcmovieline.files.wordpress.com2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-20 01:25:21 PM  
Man, if only there was someone like Nate Silver BEFORE the election.
 
2012-11-20 01:25:26 PM  
I would be unsurprised if Governor Christie's statements prior to the election contributed to up to a two percentage poll shift in President Obama's favour in certain states.

As a four point poll shift in every swing state would have been required for Mr. Romney to have won the election, I also understand the blame assigned to Governor Christie: admitting error is a sign of weakness.
 
2012-11-20 01:25:35 PM  
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Guess who's coming to dinner, fat ass.
 
2012-11-20 01:25:59 PM  
Ok, let's see here. The tally so far why Romney lost pretty much adds up to "Everything in the world, but not Romney himself". The denial is strong w/ this one...
 
2012-11-20 01:26:15 PM  
Reasons why Mitt Romney lost the election

Gifts to Hispanics
Gifts to Young People
Gifts to Women
Gov. Christie

Feel free to add your own
 
2012-11-20 01:26:46 PM  
He just can't accept there's something he can't buy.
 
2012-11-20 01:26:57 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com
Ermahgerd! The pertaters are just the right height.
 
2012-11-20 01:27:18 PM  

Rev. Skarekroe: He's blaming everyone but himself, isn't he?
Thank God this guy isn't going to be president.


Are you saying that every failing would be excused with "Bu-bu-bu-bu-Christie"?
 
2012-11-20 01:27:21 PM  
My guess was Rush, doh!
 
2012-11-20 01:27:41 PM  

ShawnDoc: I guess I missed the part where New Jersey was a key swing state? Or I just imagined the poll analysis prior to Sandy showing that Obama was poised to win?


He broke the lock-step of "OMG Obama does everything wrong". Once he said Barry did something good, the whole house of cards came tumbling down.
 
2012-11-20 01:27:42 PM  
Christie stands "too close" to Obama? Gets accused of "french kissing" Obama? Why are Republicans so consumed with homosexual imagery?

/wait, I know
 
2012-11-20 01:28:33 PM  
It's a gift.
 
2012-11-20 01:28:34 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: F*ck you Mitt

/If you want to see why you lost, go look in a mirror
//assuming you have a reflection, since you seem singularly incapable of any


Done in five; with a helpful assist from his campaign team. In retrospect, they didn't have the ability to figure out how to play Connect Four without farking it up.
 
2012-11-20 01:29:36 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: We're going to have to start keeping a new list: Reasons Mitt Romney Lost The Election because it still seems to be growing by the day.


Is "Look in a mirror, Mitt" on that list?
 
2012-11-20 01:30:13 PM  
One of them questioned why he had boarded Mr. Obama's helicopter, according to people briefed on the conversations.

You sure as Hell didn't expect him to walk, did you?
 
2012-11-20 01:30:18 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: We're going to have to start keeping a new list: Reasons Mitt Romney Lost The Election because it still seems to be growing by the day.


Ok, I'll start:

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove


NOT ROMNEY
 
2012-11-20 01:30:19 PM  
It's like the whining of middle-school aged little girls: "It's not fair. It's not my fault! Our team should have won."

/Man up, GOP.
//You lost because you did it wrong.
///Try not to double down on the derp in 2016.
////Unless you want to lose again.
 
2012-11-20 01:30:19 PM  

bdub77: The election was two weeks ago. People didn't buy into your bold-faced bullsh*t, that's why you lost.

Get. Over. It.


No. Don't get over it. Keep speaking, Mitt. MOAH! The gift that keeps on giving.
 
2012-11-20 01:30:51 PM  

Lando Lincoln: whistleridge: Why is it just so hard for some people to say 'well...we go outplayed'?

Because that might cast doubt on the Republican message. And we all know their message is fine.


and If I understand that message correctly over the last few days, its that Mitt Romney is a clueless whiner who needs to STFU and GTFO because he totally misunderstands the electorate, and was a masterful campaigner who only lost because of a perfect storm of Christie/Sandy/The Obamaphone lady/Shenannigans in Ohio with the Trigg Romeny-owned/GOP secretary of State-controlled election machinery/Greedy plebian shiats that wanted "stuff"
 
2012-11-20 01:31:05 PM  
Two weeks of living off of nothing but tears.

Still loving it.
 
2012-11-20 01:31:07 PM  
If that campaign was hinging on Christie, they should have ran Christie.
 
2012-11-20 01:31:36 PM  

Dahnkster: [25.media.tumblr.com image 320x480]
Ermahgerd! The pertaters are just the right height.


boingboing.net
 
2012-11-20 01:31:46 PM  
All I really wanted was to never have to hear about Romney again. But, I didn't anticipate that the two weeks after the election would be Romney sucking down sour grapes and publicly complaining about how bad they taste. I can handle that.
 
2012-11-20 01:32:14 PM  
So, by Teapublican logic (which boils down to politicizing everything and acting like an angry spoiled child), Christie is BAD because he chose to put politics aside and do what's best for his state during a crisis rather than politicizing the storm and sinking to new lows, putting his citizen's lives at risk for a chance to stick it to Obama.

Got it.
 
2012-11-20 01:32:37 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: If that campaign was hinging on Christie, they should have ran Christie.


Why oh why didn't they listen to Ann Coulter?
 
2012-11-20 01:33:03 PM  

whistleridge: If anything short of assassination, outright treason, or a video surfacing of you humping a goat happens in the last week before the election, you didn't lose the election because of it. You lost the election because you campaign sucked, pure and simple.

Why is it just so hard for some people to say 'well...we go outplayed'?


Because they wasted hundreds of millions of dollars of somebody else's money. People who are now demanding answers.

An indescribably awesome unintended consequence of Citizens United. The assholes that took the most advantage of it lost; and boy are they pissed. This is why they keep beating on the dead (dressage) horse.
 
2012-11-20 01:33:13 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: We're going to have to start keeping a new list: Reasons Mitt Romney Lost The Election because it still seems to be growing by the day.


I would suggest adding the whole Jeeps to China debacle. Just 'cause imma Jeep guy.

i865.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-20 01:33:17 PM  
cdn.ph.upi.com
 
2012-11-20 01:33:56 PM  
0.tqn.com
 
2012-11-20 01:34:11 PM  
The Romney campaign won't get its own HBO movie, but it's actually as much of a fun clusterfark as the McCain campaign was, and I hope that at least we get the original writers of Game Change to write up Game Change 2: Electric Boogaloo about the Republican primaries and Romney's failure to do pretty much anything right in 2012.
 
2012-11-20 01:34:38 PM  
So they want to get rid of FEMA because the states can handle disasters that cripple the, um, state...

BUT

...the governor of the state is NOT allowed to be seen near any Democrats who are helping.



Get farked.
 
2012-11-20 01:34:42 PM  
Let's try to look at this objectively here. What did the Romney campaign do right? Seriously, what could the campaign hang its hat on this go 'round? ORCA? Its ground game? Setting out a clear vision for the candidate?

What we got was a guy fumbling around for months, who threatened to be overshadowed by his running mate until they scaled him back on the national stage at least. Then said candidate appears as a craven opportunist in setting up a press conference immediately following an attack on U.S. civilians in Libya.

His one shining moment was the first debate where he outclassed Obama by shamelessly abandoning everything he had been running on since the primaries in one, hour and a half performance. He then held his own but lost the remaining two debates and then, thanks to his echo chamber, deludedly thought the campaign was in the bag.

But yeah, it was Chris Christie's fault.
 
2012-11-20 01:35:22 PM  

Magorn: Lando Lincoln: whistleridge: Why is it just so hard for some people to say 'well...we go outplayed'?

Because that might cast doubt on the Republican message. And we all know their message is fine.

and If I understand that message correctly over the last few days, its that Mitt Romney is a clueless whiner who needs to STFU and GTFO because he totally misunderstands the electorate, and was a masterful campaigner who only lost because of a perfect storm of Christie/Sandy/The Obamaphone lady/Shenannigans in Ohio with the Trigg Romeny-owned/GOP secretary of State-controlled election machinery/Greedy plebian shiats that wanted "stuff"


I normally loathe Rachel Maddow, but she was spot-on last night:

* Michael Steele: huge wins for GOP, gets fired, effectively for not being whi--er, conservative enough
* Rince Preibus: huge losses for GOP, obvious incompetence on his part, gets his job renewed because he's whi-- er, properly conservative
 
2012-11-20 01:36:24 PM  
Romney: "Everyone but me is to blame."

GOP: "Romney is entirely to blame, it has nothing to do with our party and policies."

They're both wrong. . .so vote Republican?
 
2012-11-20 01:36:37 PM  
So, it's all Christie's fault for putting his office and his constituents above his party. Got it.
 
2012-11-20 01:36:57 PM  

whistleridge: If anything short of assassination, outright treason, or a video surfacing of you humping a goat happens in the last week before the election, you didn't lose the election because of it. You lost the election because you campaign sucked, pure and simple.

Why is it just so hard for some people to say 'well...we go outplayed'?


Faith. Faith is the problem.

These are religious people and from a young age their religions have been teaching them that faith, which is specifically the stubborn decision to believe in things without any evidence whatsoever, is more important than logic or reason. Thus it's more important to them what they WANT to believe then what is true.
 
2012-11-20 01:37:08 PM  
Incompetent, dislikeable businessman blames another for personal failure. Full story at 11.
 
2012-11-20 01:37:47 PM  

FooDog: Shrugging Atlas: We're going to have to start keeping a new list: Reasons Mitt Romney Lost The Election because it still seems to be growing by the day.

Ok, I'll start:

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove


NOT ROMNEY


Math
Nate Silver
 
2012-11-20 01:38:09 PM  
If I had to blame one person other than Romney, I would blame Obama.

If I had to pick a third person, I'd pick the bartender who took the 47% fundraiser video and released it. All else being equal, I think that video cost Romney the election.
 
2012-11-20 01:38:27 PM  
Whoa, this whole time I thought his name was Mitch...
 
2012-11-20 01:38:40 PM  

FooDog: Shrugging Atlas: We're going to have to start keeping a new list: Reasons Mitt Romney Lost The Election because it still seems to be growing by the day.

Ok, I'll start:

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove


NOT ROMNEY


Weren't Christians blamed for not turning out in droves for him?

Also:
Sluts
Liberal Media
Students
Brown People
 
2012-11-20 01:38:47 PM  

peter21: Let's try to look at this objectively here. What did the Romney campaign do right? Seriously, what could the campaign hang its hat on this go 'round? ORCA? Its ground game? Setting out a clear vision for the candidate?

What we got was a guy fumbling around for months, who threatened to be overshadowed by his running mate until they scaled him back on the national stage at least. Then said candidate appears as a craven opportunist in setting up a press conference immediately following an attack on U.S. civilians in Libya.

His one shining moment was the first debate where he outclassed Obama by shamelessly abandoning everything he had been running on since the primaries in one, hour and a half performance. He then held his own but lost the remaining two debates and then, thanks to his echo chamber, deludedly thought the campaign was in the bag.

But yeah, it was Chris Christie's fault.



Romney wasn't even in the ballgame until Obama slept through the first debate. If Obama hadn't let Romney get that little bit of momentum, none of this last-minute fingerpointing would be taking place. They'd be pointing fingers, of course, but they'd be blaming things that are more long-term.
 
2012-11-20 01:38:48 PM  
Romney is the grandmother in Flannery O'Connor's 'A Good Man is Hard to Find'.
 
2012-11-20 01:39:38 PM  
"lengthy autopsy of their campaign"
img811.imageshack.us
 
2012-11-20 01:40:05 PM  
One reason that wasn't fat.

images.politico.com
 
2012-11-20 01:40:10 PM  
I just... I just don't understand this rhetoric. I can't wrap my head around how people can think this way.
 
2012-11-20 01:40:49 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: FooDog: Shrugging Atlas: We're going to have to start keeping a new list: Reasons Mitt Romney Lost The Election because it still seems to be growing by the day.

Ok, I'll start:

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove


NOT ROMNEY

Weren't Christians blamed for not turning out in droves for him?

Also:
Sluts
Liberal Media
Students
Brown People



That's "bluh people" to you, pal
 
2012-11-20 01:41:12 PM  

Nadie_AZ: FooDog: Shrugging Atlas: We're going to have to start keeping a new list: Reasons Mitt Romney Lost The Election because it still seems to be growing by the day.

Ok, I'll start:

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove
Math
Nate Silver


And a few more:

Chrysler
Tropical storm Isaac
Tax returns
Gays
Brown people
Vaginas
American Red Cross
New Black Panthers
St. Vincent DePaul Soup Kitchen


but still NOT ROMNEY
 
2012-11-20 01:41:22 PM  

lordjupiter: Shrugging Atlas: FooDog: Shrugging Atlas: We're going to have to start keeping a new list: Reasons Mitt Romney Lost The Election because it still seems to be growing by the day.

Ok, I'll start:

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove


NOT ROMNEY

Weren't Christians blamed for not turning out in droves for him?

Also:
Sluts
Liberal Media
Students
Brown People


That's "bluh people" to you, pal


Christians who didn't vote Republican
 
2012-11-20 01:41:28 PM  
Because it could not possibly be that Romney was such a terrible candidate that the only reason for him to be in the White House was on a guided tour.

No, couldn't possibly be that at all.
 
2012-11-20 01:41:55 PM  
Dear GOP, you didn't get my vote because you openly hate me. I'm one of the working poor who is excited about the prospect of decent health insurance. I'm one of the gay people you think you should be able to deny equal rights to. I'm one of the people who barely contributes via income tax, but still pays a higher effective tax rate (sales, payroll, social security, medicare) than Mitt Romney. I'm one of the people who, when I call for government to actually do something useful for me, you berate and call a "taker," despite your financial adoration of subsidies for everyone who is already doing ok. You can blame Christie, "gifts," hurricanes (or other acts of God), but unless you stop using your policies to try to decide whether lawmakers know whether mj or neurontin has worse side effects, who I can marry, and whether or not my ownership of a refrigerator means I should pay more taxes so our illustrious "job creators" can have another tax break, you're not getting my vote.
 
2012-11-20 01:42:33 PM  

Philip Francis Queeg: One reason that wasn't fat.

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Muppet Face.
 
2012-11-20 01:44:11 PM  

SilentStrider: lordjupiter: Shrugging Atlas: FooDog: Shrugging Atlas: We're going to have to start keeping a new list: Reasons Mitt Romney Lost The Election because it still seems to be growing by the day.

Ok, I'll start:

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove


NOT ROMNEY

Weren't Christians blamed for not turning out in droves for him?

Also:
Sluts
Liberal Media
Students
Brown People


That's "bluh people" to you, pal

Christians who didn't vote Republican


Rush Limbaugh
 
2012-11-20 01:46:14 PM  
If it wasn't for the hurricane, NJ would have gone 125% Romney as predicted every day from the start.
 
2012-11-20 01:46:38 PM  

Dimensio:
As a four point poll shift in every swing state would have been required for Mr. Romney to have won the election, I also understand the blame assigned to Governor Christie: admitting error is a sign of weakness.


And this is what I will never understand. It's not a sign of weakness. Admitting a mistake is a sign of strength. It says I'm secure enough that an error won't ruin me. Refusing to admit a mistake is a sign of weakness. It means I'm afraid that one mistake will make people think less of me. That I will be fired or people won't like me anymore.

The only thing that is worse is someone who blames someone else for their own mistake. That's not weakness, that meanness.

The staffers feal weak and they're lashing out. I get it. But it telegraphs weakness, not strength.

What I don't understand is Mitt. He has enough money to have clout anywhere he decides to hang his hat. (Besides the political ring) If he simply said he got beat, disappeared for a year and then set up a big foundation, he'd be fine. Instead he's hissing and spitting and lashing out, and I don't get it.
 
2012-11-20 01:46:57 PM  
These people are pathetic.

Your candidate was horrible. His campaign was horrible. Your party is full of willfully ignorant, regressive bigots, plutocrats and religious zealots, who shiat on their fellow countrymen.

This is why you lost. Period.
 
2012-11-20 01:47:05 PM  

Philip Francis Queeg: One reason that wasn't fat.

[images.politico.com image 605x328]


Ryan has that perfectly punchable douchbag face.
 
2012-11-20 01:47:56 PM  
So the insulting lie about Jeep moving to Japan had nothing to do with him losing Ohio? Or his insulting 47% remarks had nothing to do with losing the 47%+?
 
2012-11-20 01:48:21 PM  

lordjupiter: So they want to get rid of FEMA because the states can handle disasters that cripple the, um, state...

BUT
...the governor of the state is NOT allowed to be seen near any Democrats who are helping.
Get farked.


Oh, they did. Heh heh heh.
 
2012-11-20 01:48:30 PM  
Does this mean he has to go be fat somewhere else?
 
2012-11-20 01:48:30 PM  
This is why I'm disgusted with politics. Blame-games like this--and this particular instance of the political party getting angry with one of their own being bi-partisan--can just as easily happen if the situation was reversed regarding Republicans and Democrats. I usually vote Democrat, but I was just as disgusted with the treatment Bush W received from the Democratic party during his 8 years. Too much of the focus is on being right rather than doing right.
 
2012-11-20 01:49:02 PM  

firefly212: Dear GOP, you didn't get my vote because you openly hate me. I'm one of the working poor who is excited about the prospect of decent health insurance. I'm one of the gay people you think you should be able to deny equal rights to. I'm one of the people who barely contributes via income tax, but still pays a higher effective tax rate (sales, payroll, social security, medicare) than Mitt Romney. I'm one of the people who, when I call for government to actually do something useful for me, you berate and call a "taker," despite your financial adoration of subsidies for everyone who is already doing ok. You can blame Christie, "gifts," hurricanes (or other acts of God), but unless you stop using your policies to try to decide whether lawmakers know whether mj or neurontin has worse side effects, who I can marry, and whether or not my ownership of a refrigerator means I should pay more taxes so our illustrious "job creators" can have another tax break, you're not getting my vote.


Dear firefly212,

TL;DR

~GOP
 
2012-11-20 01:49:14 PM  

FooDog: Shrugging Atlas: We're going to have to start keeping a new list: Reasons Mitt Romney Lost The Election because it still seems to be growing by the day.

Ok, I'll start:

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove


NOT ROMNEY


Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove
Blacks
Single women
Hispanics
Young people
Gays
Nate Silver

NOT ROMNEY
 
2012-11-20 01:51:19 PM  
I'd like to remind people of all the articles from the right claiming the left was spiking the ball and being bad winners. Then of the endless stream of articles from the right blaming everybody, including the voters, for them losing. I'd also like to bring up the recent post about barackofraudo.com claiming that the election was stolen. I'd like to remind everyone that Romney got 59 million votes. Lastly, I'd like to be sad for the state of the country.
 
2012-11-20 01:52:00 PM  

lordjupiter: peter21: Let's try to look at this objectively here. What did the Romney campaign do right?

But yeah, it was Chris Christie's fault.


Romney wasn't even in the ballgame until Obama slept through the first debate. If Obama hadn't let Romney get that little bit of momentum, none of this last-minute fingerpointing would be taking place. They'd be pointing fingers, of course, but they'd be blaming things that are more long-term.


That first debate is how Obama not only defeated Romney, but how Obama rope-a-doped the entire Republican and Tea Parties.
 
2012-11-20 01:52:18 PM  
So the Republicans are going to destroy their most viable candidate for 2016 because he didn't lock his car doors when the President walked by. You know, I'm starting to wonder if maybe Obama didn't use his magic hurricane machine to engineer all of this. It's just too silly to be real.
 
2012-11-20 01:52:25 PM  

jasimo: FooDog: Shrugging Atlas: We're going to have to start keeping a new list: Reasons Mitt Romney Lost The Election because it still seems to be growing by the day.

Ok, I'll start:

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove


NOT ROMNEY

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove
Blacks
Single women
Hispanics
Young people
Gays
Nate Silver

NOT ROMNEY


roof dogs... you forgot roof dogs.
 
2012-11-20 01:53:17 PM  

HeartBurnKid: So, it's all Christie's fault for putting his office and his constituents above his party. Got it.


It certainly didn't help to have the whole nation see the stark contrast between a couple of real leaders working together to help their constituents, and a whiny, born-rich fratboy who's never done an honest day's work in his life emptily shilling for votes.
 
2012-11-20 01:54:10 PM  
Obama's strategy for the next four years should be to troll the hell out of every viable Republican candidate by being nice to him. Shake Paul Ryan's hand on camera and say, "I was really worried when they picked you for Veep." High five Christie. Slap Scott Walker onthe back and say "Congratulations on the recall."
 
2012-11-20 01:56:08 PM  

ArgusRun: Dimensio:
As a four point poll shift in every swing state would have been required for Mr. Romney to have won the election, I also understand the blame assigned to Governor Christie: admitting error is a sign of weakness.

And this is what I will never understand. It's not a sign of weakness. Admitting a mistake is a sign of strength. It says I'm secure enough that an error won't ruin me. Refusing to admit a mistake is a sign of weakness. It means I'm afraid that one mistake will make people think less of me. That I will be fired or people won't like me anymore.

The only thing that is worse is someone who blames someone else for their own mistake. That's not weakness, that meanness.

The staffers feal weak and they're lashing out. I get it. But it telegraphs weakness, not strength.

What I don't understand is Mitt. He has enough money to have clout anywhere he decides to hang his hat. (Besides the political ring) If he simply said he got beat, disappeared for a year and then set up a big foundation, he'd be fine. Instead he's hissing and spitting and lashing out, and I don't get it.


Right after the 2008 election I was still doing Hiring for a DC contaractor that did a lot of gov't work. I'll never forget the resume I got where the bright young thing who wrote it evidentially considered thier work on the "McCain Campaign Palin Media team" to be his professional career highlight, despite the fact that the rest of the world thought her media relation team had done one of the worst jobs at that ever seen. Admittedly a lot of that was a "garbage in, Garbage out" issue, but stil
 
2012-11-20 01:58:23 PM  
Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove
Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove
Blacks
Single women
Hispanics
Young people
Gays
Nate Silver

Bureau of Labor Statistics

NOT ROMNEY
 
2012-11-20 01:58:27 PM  


Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove
Blacks
Single women
Hispanics
Young people
Gays
Nate Silver
roof dogs.


Bain-bashing ads confusing people
Black Panthers
Voter fraud
Destroyed absentee military ballots
moderate politics
saying stupid things
 
2012-11-20 01:59:02 PM  
Mentat, he should just have a photographer snap picures of him suprising each of them with a hug.
 
2012-11-20 01:59:07 PM  

whistleridge: Why is it just so hard for some people to say 'well...we go outplayed'?


Because all the "yes men" Mitt surrounded himself with told him he was going to win. His internal polling told him he was going to win. He honestly doesn't understand why he lost because he was living in a reality bubble of his own creation.

/like most Republicans.
 
2012-11-20 02:00:17 PM  

Mentat: So the Republicans are going to destroy their most viable candidate for 2016 because he didn't lock his car doors when the President walked by. You know, I'm starting to wonder if maybe Obama didn't use his magic hurricane machine to engineer all of this. It's just too silly to be real.


You Know I WONDERED whatever happened to those books Prospero had! Now it all makes sense! Did anyone ever see a copy of Caliban's birth Certificate?
 
2012-11-20 02:00:44 PM  

impaler: The important thing is to take away from this is that it was someone else's fault.

Party of personal responsibility.

 
2012-11-20 02:01:31 PM  

whistleridge: Why is it just so hard for some people to say 'well...we go outplayed'?


Waaaaaaaaahhhhhhh! It was the ref's fault we lost.
 
2012-11-20 02:02:09 PM  
Sorry Mittard, this election was already done before Sandy hit. I'm sorry the bubble you and Karl Rove made around yourselves shielded you from that fact.
 
2012-11-20 02:02:49 PM  
Ugly girls who never get asked to dance always blame the DJ.
 
2012-11-20 02:02:58 PM  
i.imgur.com

This picture should win a Pulitzer.
 
2012-11-20 02:04:35 PM  

ArdRi6: So the insulting lie about Jeep moving to Japan had nothing to do with him losing Ohio? Or his insulting 47% remarks had nothing to do with losing the 47%+?


Here is the Key thing Romney failed to grasp: There IS a certain percentage of our popluation that lives in a culture of dependancy and is relaint on government handouts, It is NOT 47% as supposes , but much more importantly, a large percentage of that group vote Republican and considers themselves "rugged individualists" and Romney should be beaten about the head and shoulders with a copy of What's the Matter with Kansas? until he acknowledges it
 
2012-11-20 02:04:37 PM  

Philip Francis Queeg: One reason that wasn't fat.

[images.politico.com image 605x328]


I will criticize Representative Ryan for many reasons, but never for his physical conditioning.
 
2012-11-20 02:04:51 PM  
Tally so far...

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove
Blacks
Single women
Hispanics
Young people
Gays
Math
Nate Silver
Liberal Media
Chrysler
Tropical storm Isaac
Tax returns
American Red Cross
New Black Panthers
St. Vincent DePaul Soup Kitchen
Roof Dogs
Bureau of Labor Statistics
 
2012-11-20 02:07:01 PM  

lordjupiter: So they want to get rid of FEMA because the states can handle disasters that cripple the, um, state...


don't forget how he said they should cut policemen and firefigthers earlier in the year and then that massive wildfire broke out. i can't believe that happened with mitt twice!
 
2012-11-20 02:07:07 PM  
Even the GOP didn't like Romney, why would they think most people would.
They should have gone with Perry, he was a game changer.
 
2012-11-20 02:07:34 PM  

Magorn: ArgusRun: Dimensio:
As a four point poll shift in every swing state would have been required for Mr. Romney to have won the election, I also understand the blame assigned to Governor Christie: admitting error is a sign of weakness.

And this is what I will never understand. It's not a sign of weakness. Admitting a mistake is a sign of strength. It says I'm secure enough that an error won't ruin me. Refusing to admit a mistake is a sign of weakness. It means I'm afraid that one mistake will make people think less of me. That I will be fired or people won't like me anymore.

The only thing that is worse is someone who blames someone else for their own mistake. That's not weakness, that meanness.

The staffers feal weak and they're lashing out. I get it. But it telegraphs weakness, not strength.

What I don't understand is Mitt. He has enough money to have clout anywhere he decides to hang his hat. (Besides the political ring) If he simply said he got beat, disappeared for a year and then set up a big foundation, he'd be fine. Instead he's hissing and spitting and lashing out, and I don't get it.

Right after the 2008 election I was still doing Hiring for a DC contaractor that did a lot of gov't work. I'll never forget the resume I got where the bright young thing who wrote it evidentially considered thier work on the "McCain Campaign Palin Media team" to be his professional career highlight, despite the fact that the rest of the world thought her media relation team had done one of the worst jobs at that ever seen. Admittedly a lot of that was a "garbage in, Garbage out" issue, but stil


Okay... That's funny.

But frankly, if you're smart and young enough, you can totally spin that in your favor. Learned how to deal with high stress environment, what not to do in many situations, experience handling inexperienced people.
 
2012-11-20 02:07:39 PM  

Nadie_AZ: firefly212: Dear GOP, you didn't get my vote because you openly hate me. I'm one of the working poor who is excited about the prospect of decent health insurance. I'm one of the gay people you think you should be able to deny equal rights to. I'm one of the people who barely contributes via income tax, but still pays a higher effective tax rate (sales, payroll, social security, medicare) than Mitt Romney. I'm one of the people who, when I call for government to actually do something useful for me, you berate and call a "taker," despite your financial adoration of subsidies for everyone who is already doing ok. You can blame Christie, "gifts," hurricanes (or other acts of God), but unless you stop using your policies to try to decide whether lawmakers know whether mj or neurontin has worse side effects, who I can marry, and whether or not my ownership of a refrigerator means I should pay more taxes so our illustrious "job creators" can have another tax break, you're not getting my vote.

Dear firefly212,

TL;DR

~GOP


I sure hope so... as a liberal, there's nothing I'd like more than for the GOP to continue to campaign on extremist, losing policies. Keep running campaigns based on hating fellow Americans (gays, blacks, latinos, the poor, etc.), see where that gets ya.
 
2012-11-20 02:07:42 PM  

firefly212: Dear GOP, you didn't get my vote because you openly hate me. I'm one of the working poor who is excited about the prospect of decent health insurance. I'm one of the gay people you think you should be able to deny equal rights to. I'm one of the people who barely contributes via income tax, but still pays a higher effective tax rate (sales, payroll, social security, medicare) than Mitt Romney. I'm one of the people who, when I call for government to actually do something useful for me, you berate and call a "taker," despite your financial adoration of subsidies for everyone who is already doing ok. You can blame Christie, "gifts," hurricanes (or other acts of God), but unless you stop using your policies to try to decide whether lawmakers know whether mj or neurontin has worse side effects, who I can marry, and whether or not my ownership of a refrigerator means I should pay more taxes so our illustrious "job creators" can have another tax break, you're not getting my vote.


You are only proving the Republican narrative correct by putting your own financial well-being and civil liberties above the wishes of Christian theocrats and wealthy business owners who may now be forced to pay 2% more of their annual income to the government.
 
2012-11-20 02:09:12 PM  
i48.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-20 02:10:42 PM  

ArgusRun: Dimensio: As a four point poll shift in every swing state would have been required for Mr. Romney to have won the election, I also understand the blame assigned to Governor Christie: admitting error is a sign of weakness.

And this is what I will never understand. It's not a sign of weakness. Admitting a mistake is a sign of strength. It says I'm secure enough that an error won't ruin me. Refusing to admit a mistake is a sign of weakness. It means I'm afraid that one mistake will make people think less of me. That I will be fired or people won't like me anymore.


You are not a religious fundamentalist, which is the core group that has taken over the Republican party and who are the reason that I cannot identify as a Republican. Religious fundamentalists believe their political advocacy to be an extension of the will of God. Because God is infallible (and because religious fundamentalists are arrogant enough to believe their interpretation of God's word to be infallible), admitting a mistake would be tantamount to claiming that God was wrong which, to them, is impossible.
 
2012-11-20 02:12:47 PM  

jasimo: FooDog: Shrugging Atlas: We're going to have to start keeping a new list: Reasons Mitt Romney Lost The Election because it still seems to be growing by the day.

Ok, I'll start:

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove


NOT ROMNEY

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove
Blacks
Single women
Hispanics
Young people
Gays
Nate Silver

NOT ROMNEY


Is the "Obamaphone" a subset of "Obama's gifts", or does it require a separate listing?
 
2012-11-20 02:13:16 PM  

FooDog: Tally so far...

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove
Blacks
Single women
Hispanics
Young people
Gays
Math
Nate Silver
Liberal Media
Chrysler
Tropical storm Isaac
Tax returns
American Red Cross
New Black Panthers
St. Vincent DePaul Soup Kitchen
Roof Dogs
Bureau of Labor Statistics

Internal combustion engines
Trees not of the right height
The Star Spangled Banner

/ just a few more
 
2012-11-20 02:15:12 PM  
FTFA:
"Christie," said a Romney adviser, "allowed Obama to be president, not a politician."

And, god forbid, Christie acted like a governor, not a politician.
 
2012-11-20 02:15:28 PM  

VJStinger: FooDog: Tally so far...

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove
Blacks
Single women
Hispanics
Young people
Gays
Math
Nate Silver
Liberal Media
Chrysler
Tropical storm Isaac
Tax returns
American Red Cross
New Black Panthers
St. Vincent DePaul Soup Kitchen
Roof Dogs
Bureau of Labor Statistics
Internal combustion engines
Trees not of the right height
The Star Spangled Banner

/ just a few more


Voters
 
2012-11-20 02:15:39 PM  

morlinge: I'd also like to bring up the recent post about barackofraudo.com claiming that the election was stolen.


I examined this website. Apparently the author believes that Mr. Romney was entitled to a certain percentage of votes from certain urban areas and that him receiving a lower percentage is proof that electoral fraud occurred. I do not believe that the author understands how electoral fraud works.
 
2012-11-20 02:15:43 PM  

lordjupiter: peter21: Let's try to look at this objectively here. What did the Romney campaign do right? Seriously, what could the campaign hang its hat on this go 'round? ORCA? Its ground game? Setting out a clear vision for the candidate?

What we got was a guy fumbling around for months, who threatened to be overshadowed by his running mate until they scaled him back on the national stage at least. Then said candidate appears as a craven opportunist in setting up a press conference immediately following an attack on U.S. civilians in Libya.

His one shining moment was the first debate where he outclassed Obama by shamelessly abandoning everything he had been running on since the primaries in one, hour and a half performance. He then held his own but lost the remaining two debates and then, thanks to his echo chamber, deludedly thought the campaign was in the bag.

But yeah, it was Chris Christie's fault.


Romney wasn't even in the ballgame until Obama slept through the first debate. If Obama hadn't let Romney get that little bit of momentum, none of this last-minute fingerpointing would be taking place. They'd be pointing fingers, of course, but they'd be blaming things that are more long-term.


Of for sure. It would have been better I suppose for Romney to have gone completely off the rails, maybe they'd have gotten to their soul-searching moment sooner. The inability to accept blame is fascinating but not surprising I guess. If you make no apologies because you never do anything wrong, how can you then admit you've failed? They're all winners, it's just someone else's fault that kept them from winning.
 
2012-11-20 02:17:04 PM  
Had one right winger endlessly whining about how Christie was gushing and too nice to Obama. Directly said that a true conservative should never compliment Obama ever, not even acknowledge that Obama did his job correctly. At best Christie should have just ignored Obama is he was doing something right. But NEVER say he did something right.

EVER.
 
2012-11-20 02:19:21 PM  

Dimensio: morlinge: I'd also like to bring up the recent post about barackofraudo.com claiming that the election was stolen.

I examined this website. Apparently the author believes that Mr. Romney was entitled to a certain percentage of votes from certain urban areas and that him receiving a lower percentage is proof that electoral fraud occurred. I do not believe that the author understands how electoral fraud works.


Their sense of self-entitlement knows no upper bounds.But God help the poor person who wants access to preventative health care....
 
2012-11-20 02:19:42 PM  

Dimensio: Is the "Obamaphone" a subset of "Obama's gifts", or does it require a separate listing?


THIS.

I need a detailed list. I voted for Obama in 2008 and didn't get anything, but I still voted for him this year, so I farking better get one of the gifts I keep hearing so farking much about.
 
2012-11-20 02:20:08 PM  
Christie creamed the GOP with his dunking of their talking points.
 
2012-11-20 02:21:15 PM  

FooDog: Tally so far...

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove
Blacks
Single women
Hispanics
Young people
Gays
Math
Nate Silver
Liberal Media
Chrysler
Tropical storm Isaac
Tax returns
American Red Cross
New Black Panthers
St. Vincent DePaul Soup Kitchen
Roof Dogs
Bureau of Labor Statistics


Big Bird
 
2012-11-20 02:21:24 PM  

peter21: lordjupiter: peter21: Let's try to look at this objectively here. What did the Romney campaign do right? Seriously, what could the campaign hang its hat on this go 'round? ORCA? Its ground game? Setting out a clear vision for the candidate?

What we got was a guy fumbling around for months, who threatened to be overshadowed by his running mate until they scaled him back on the national stage at least. Then said candidate appears as a craven opportunist in setting up a press conference immediately following an attack on U.S. civilians in Libya.

His one shining moment was the first debate where he outclassed Obama by shamelessly abandoning everything he had been running on since the primaries in one, hour and a half performance. He then held his own but lost the remaining two debates and then, thanks to his echo chamber, deludedly thought the campaign was in the bag.

But yeah, it was Chris Christie's fault.


Romney wasn't even in the ballgame until Obama slept through the first debate. If Obama hadn't let Romney get that little bit of momentum, none of this last-minute fingerpointing would be taking place. They'd be pointing fingers, of course, but they'd be blaming things that are more long-term.

Of for sure. It would have been better I suppose for Romney to have gone completely off the rails, maybe they'd have gotten to their soul-searching moment sooner. The inability to accept blame is fascinating but not surprising I guess. If you make no apologies because you never do anything wrong, how can you then admit you've failed? They're all winners, it's just someone else's fault that kept them from winning.




Which reminds me...I hope Willard and the Muppet got their participation trophies
 
2012-11-20 02:22:44 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: Dimensio: Is the "Obamaphone" a subset of "Obama's gifts", or does it require a separate listing?

THIS.

I need a detailed list. I voted for Obama in 2008 and didn't get anything, but I still voted for him this year, so I farking better get one of the gifts I keep hearing so farking much about.


The gift of republican tears is more than enough for me.
Well, that and the troll that promised to cut off his penis if Obama won.
 
2012-11-20 02:23:04 PM  

Dimensio: ArgusRun: Dimensio: As a four point poll shift in every swing state would have been required for Mr. Romney to have won the election, I also understand the blame assigned to Governor Christie: admitting error is a sign of weakness.

And this is what I will never understand. It's not a sign of weakness. Admitting a mistake is a sign of strength. It says I'm secure enough that an error won't ruin me. Refusing to admit a mistake is a sign of weakness. It means I'm afraid that one mistake will make people think less of me. That I will be fired or people won't like me anymore.

You are not a religious fundamentalist, which is the core group that has taken over the Republican party and who are the reason that I cannot identify as a Republican. Religious fundamentalists believe their political advocacy to be an extension of the will of God. Because God is infallible (and because religious fundamentalists are arrogant enough to believe their interpretation of God's word to be infallible), admitting a mistake would be tantamount to claiming that God was wrong which, to them, is impossible.


You forgot sociopaths and people abusive personalities, even a few Type-As. Hell, there are many people who refuse to accept their own accountability who are in no way religious, much less fundamentalists.
 
2012-11-20 02:23:39 PM  
If one person going "off message" is all that it takes to derail your billion dollar marketing campaign then perhaps the house you constructed wasn't on a solid foundation.
 
2012-11-20 02:23:46 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: Dimensio: Is the "Obamaphone" a subset of "Obama's gifts", or does it require a separate listing?

THIS.

I need a detailed list. I voted for Obama in 2008 and didn't get anything, but I still voted for him this year, so I farking better get one of the gifts I keep hearing so farking much about.


We got the corpse of Osama bin Laden feeding the fish at the bottom of the Indian Ocean. So there's that, at least.
 
2012-11-20 02:24:34 PM  

what_now: Tell me Mitt, why did you lose all of your home states again.


He just didn't sound sincere when he was complimenting the Trees in Michigan. Especially once it came out that he once punched a tree? Dude. You're like an abusive boyfriend, all complimenting the trees one minute and punching them the next.

/also Let Detroit Go Bankrupt etc.
 
2012-11-20 02:25:46 PM  

whistleridge: If anything short of assassination, outright treason, or a video surfacing of you humping a goat happens in the last week before the election, you didn't lose the election because of it. You lost the election because you campaign sucked, pure and simple.

Why is it just so hard for some people to say 'well...we go outplayed'?


I'm fine with this.

The longer the Republicans continue to deny why they lost this election, the longer it will be before they get back into power. Maybe if they keep this up long enough, sanity can creep back into their platform.
 
2012-11-20 02:25:59 PM  

Rwa2play: MaudlinMutantMollusk: F*ck you Mitt

/If you want to see why you lost, go look in a mirror
//assuming you have a reflection, since you seem singularly incapable of any

Done in five; with a helpful assist from his campaign team. In retrospect, they didn't have the ability to figure out how to play Connect Four without farking it up.


It was more like Connect Potato and they lost the rule book.
 
2012-11-20 02:27:22 PM  
Enough is enough. It's time for Christie to switch parties.
 
2012-11-20 02:27:44 PM  

MSFT: rufus-t-firefly: Dimensio: Is the "Obamaphone" a subset of "Obama's gifts", or does it require a separate listing?

THIS.

I need a detailed list. I voted for Obama in 2008 and didn't get anything, but I still voted for him this year, so I farking better get one of the gifts I keep hearing so farking much about.

The gift of republican tears is more than enough for me.
Well, that and the troll that promised to cut off his penis if Obama won.


I must have missed this.

I got a free Obama shirt when I was working with another campaign and helped them out in 08. Then someone stole it when I was washing it at the SO's friend's house. Yeah, I worked hard and earned that shirt and someone just came and took it away without doing anything for it.

Yet for some reason I voted for Obama again. Go figure, always voting against my own interests. :)

/I am an unmarried woman so maybe it was just that bag o' contraception that won my vote
 
2012-11-20 02:27:58 PM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: what_now: Tell me Mitt, why did you lose all of your home states again.

He just didn't sound sincere when he was complimenting the Trees in Michigan. Especially once it came out that he once punched a tree? Dude. You're like an abusive boyfriend, all complimenting the trees one minute and punching them the next.

/also Let Detroit Go Bankrupt etc.


He once got a couple guys together in high school to hold down a hedge and 'take a bit off the top'.
 
2012-11-20 02:27:59 PM  
Is anyone surprised none of our resident shiat stirrers are avoiding this thread?
 
2012-11-20 02:28:11 PM  

Granny_Panties: Enough is enough. It's time for Christie to switch parties.


Don't worry, Fox "news" is already planning to put a D next to his name from now on.
 
2012-11-20 02:28:30 PM  
I challenge anyone to find a statistically relevant number of people who say they changed their vote from Romney to Obama because of anything to do with Christie.
 
2012-11-20 02:28:47 PM  

Granny_Panties: Enough is enough. It's time for Christie to switch parties.


It really isn't.

I give the man props when he has them due, and not standing for BS is most often the reason I end up doing so. But no.
 
2012-11-20 02:28:55 PM  
Yeah... botched that. "None" should be "all", of course.
 
2012-11-20 02:29:07 PM  

Granny_Panties: Enough is enough. It's time for Christie to switch parties.


Umm, No.
 
2012-11-20 02:30:04 PM  
The best part is Obama has taken over Clinton as the guy a lot of the right loves to irrationally hate. And the way he's trolled the GOP and Tea Baggers, he's gonna be at No. 1 for a long, long time.
 
2012-11-20 02:30:20 PM  

sprawl15: StreetlightInTheGhetto: what_now: Tell me Mitt, why did you lose all of your home states again.

He just didn't sound sincere when he was complimenting the Trees in Michigan. Especially once it came out that he once punched a tree? Dude. You're like an abusive boyfriend, all complimenting the trees one minute and punching them the next.

/also Let Detroit Go Bankrupt etc.

He once got a couple guys together in high school to hold down a hedge and 'take a bit off the top'.


Damn unkempt trees all up in his face all the time. A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.

cdn.theatlanticwire.com
 
2012-11-20 02:30:38 PM  

catchow: FooDog: Tally so far...

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove
Blacks
Single women
Hispanics
Young people
Gays
Math
Nate Silver
Liberal Media
Chrysler
Tropical storm Isaac
Tax returns
American Red Cross
New Black Panthers
St. Vincent DePaul Soup Kitchen
Roof Dogs
Bureau of Labor Statistics

Big Bird


The Media.
 
2012-11-20 02:30:40 PM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Granny_Panties: Enough is enough. It's time for Christie to switch parties.

It really isn't.

I give the man props when he has them due, and not standing for BS is most often the reason I end up doing so. But no.


I could see him going independent if he gets enough crap from inside the GOP - but Chris isn't going Dem.
 
2012-11-20 02:35:07 PM  

jso2897: I could see him going independent if he gets enough crap from inside the GOP - but Chris isn't going Dem.


I wonder if there's still a grassroots movement in the GOP to get him to run for prez... :D
 
2012-11-20 02:35:31 PM  

Muta: catchow: FooDog: Tally so far...

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove
Blacks
Single women
Hispanics
Young people
Gays
Math
Nate Silver
Liberal Media
Chrysler
Tropical storm Isaac
Tax returns
American Red Cross
New Black Panthers
St. Vincent DePaul Soup Kitchen
Roof Dogs
Bureau of Labor Statistics

Big Bird

The Media.


Harry Reid and other liberal Mormons (MINOs?)
 
2012-11-20 02:37:49 PM  

timujin: I challenge anyone to find a statistically relevant number of people who say they changed their vote from Romney to Obama because of anything to do with Christie.


It's a gut feeling that you liberal elites wouldn't understand.
 
2012-11-20 02:37:58 PM  
No honor amongst thieves...

GOP was pretty ugly before the election, still ugly now.

might do better in the next election if they worked on their humanity a bit.
 
2012-11-20 02:39:23 PM  

jasimo: FooDog: Shrugging Atlas: We're going to have to start keeping a new list: Reasons Mitt Romney Lost The Election because it still seems to be growing by the day.

Ok, I'll start:

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove


NOT ROMNEY

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove
Blacks
Single women
Hispanics
Young people
Gays
Nate Silver

NOT ROMNEY


and don't forget: CLINT!
 
2012-11-20 02:39:26 PM  
If someone is arrested for public urination,
will they be tried by a jury of peers?
 
2012-11-20 02:44:10 PM  
He had no chance of winning NY or NJ. This is just meaningless finger-pointing. He needs to accept the fact that his message does not sell to over half of the country (you know the ones who want free stuff)
 
2012-11-20 02:45:05 PM  

not5am: lordjupiter: So they want to get rid of FEMA because the states can handle disasters that cripple the, um, state...

don't forget how he said they should cut policemen and firefigthers earlier in the year and then that massive wildfire broke out. i can't believe that happened with mitt twice!


Oooh, epic troll opportunity.
Romney fan: Romney only lost because of the wildfire and the hurricane!
Us: so, Acts of God, as the insurance biz calls them?
RF: Yes!
Us: So what you're saying is, God made Romney lose?

Then wrap that guy's head in copper, stick him between two magnets, and solve the energy crisis, cause you're going to see more spin than you can count.
 
2012-11-20 02:45:42 PM  

Mercutio74: jso2897: I could see him going independent if he gets enough crap from inside the GOP - but Chris isn't going Dem.

I wonder if there's still a grassroots movement in the GOP to get him to run for prez... :D


He's getting whacked pretty hard by the right-wing media noise machine. He'll be up for re-election in 2014; how the GOP treats him in the primary will be a good indicator of his internal party standing and his prospects for 2016.
 
2012-11-20 02:46:38 PM  
He needs to do two things:

1. Shut the fark up.

2. Grow the fark up.

What a farking baby. And to think almost half of the voters wanted this whiny sack of shiat to be given control of the country.
 
2012-11-20 02:47:13 PM  

impaler: VJStinger: FooDog: Tally so far...

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove
Blacks
Single women
Hispanics
Young people
Gays
Math
Nate Silver
Liberal Media
Chrysler
Tropical storm Isaac
Tax returns
American Red Cross
New Black Panthers
St. Vincent DePaul Soup Kitchen
Roof Dogs
Bureau of Labor Statistics
Internal combustion engines
Trees not of the right height
The Star Spangled Banner

/ just a few more

Voters



Jeep. 
 
2012-11-20 02:47:15 PM  

ArgusRun: Dimensio:
As a four point poll shift in every swing state would have been required for Mr. Romney to have won the election, I also understand the blame assigned to Governor Christie: admitting error is a sign of weakness.

And this is what I will never understand. It's not a sign of weakness. Admitting a mistake is a sign of strength. It says I'm secure enough that an error won't ruin me. Refusing to admit a mistake is a sign of weakness. It means I'm afraid that one mistake will make people think less of me. That I will be fired or people won't like me anymore.

The only thing that is worse is someone who blames someone else for their own mistake. That's not weakness, that meanness.

The staffers feal weak and they're lashing out. I get it. But it telegraphs weakness, not strength.

What I don't understand is Mitt. He has enough money to have clout anywhere he decides to hang his hat. (Besides the political ring) If he simply said he got beat, disappeared for a year and then set up a big foundation, he'd be fine. Instead he's hissing and spitting and lashing out, and I don't get it.


Mitt Romney is an asshole. Film at 11.
 
2012-11-20 02:47:49 PM  
I'd like to point out - for future reference - that this debacle of Romney's cluelessness about how he lost is the Numero Uno reason for why businessmen are not intrinsically qualified to lead in any way: business operatives fire and/or disassociate with people that disagree with them; private sector corporations simply aren't capable of operating with multiple working perspectives.

in other words, it was all yes men, all the way down, and who is surprised?
 
2012-11-20 02:52:08 PM  

ArgusRun: What I don't understand is Mitt. He has enough money to have clout anywhere he decides to hang his hat. (Besides the political ring) If he simply said he got beat, disappeared for a year and then set up a big foundation, he'd be fine. Instead he's hissing and spitting and lashing out, and I don't get it.


You know all the little disappointments you've had to face throughout your life? Little things like not getting the toy you want for your birthday, doing badly on an exam, they build up a sort of emotional callus that help when you get older and have to deal with more difficult disappointments, such as being teased or humiliated by other kids, not being liked back by a crush. You go through a breakup. The callus is maintained and toughened. And then you maybe don't get into the college you want, you don't get a call back from a few job interviews. Maybe you get fired, maybe you go through a divorce. And that emotional callus helps you to handle the harder stuff with grace. You can even accept that maybe you weren't right for that job. Maybe you and your ex weren't right for each other. All this adds up to an understanding of yourself as a good but still fallible person. That's the self-awareness that most people reach over a lifetime.

Now imagine what your life would be without most of that disappointment and humiliation. You got pretty much everything you wanted starting at a young age. You've never lost a job. You've never been through a break-up. You've been successful in everything and have made it to sixty-five years of age without having to suffer any real disappointments, and this has left your emotional defenses against disappointment as soft as a newborn's belly. Now imagine going from that to facing total humiliation on a national scale, being rejected, for the first time, not by a girl you like, but by a majority of Americans voters. How do you think your psyche would handle that?

I don't have a lot of sympathy for the guy, but I can understand why he's reacting badly.
 
2012-11-20 02:57:35 PM  

Maud Dib: impaler: VJStinger: FooDog: Tally so far...

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove
Blacks
Single women
Hispanics
Young people
Gays
Math
Nate Silver
Liberal Media
Chrysler
Tropical storm Isaac
Tax returns
American Red Cross
New Black Panthers
St. Vincent DePaul Soup Kitchen
Roof Dogs
Bureau of Labor Statistics
Internal combustion engines
Trees not of the right height
The Star Spangled Banner

/ just a few more

Voters


Jeep.


too many primary debates.
 
2012-11-20 02:58:28 PM  
Romney's political advisers found that a large number of voters who were undecided toward the end wound up voting Obama

They all gotta be assholes, so I'm surprised they didn't vote for Romney.
 
2012-11-20 02:59:14 PM  

MSFT: Dimensio: morlinge: I'd also like to bring up the recent post about barackofraudo.com claiming that the election was stolen.

I examined this website. Apparently the author believes that Mr. Romney was entitled to a certain percentage of votes from certain urban areas and that him receiving a lower percentage is proof that electoral fraud occurred. I do not believe that the author understands how electoral fraud works.

Their sense of self-entitlement knows no upper bounds.But God help the poor person who wants access to preventative health care....


People who get cancer without being able to afford treatment are irresponsible.
 
2012-11-20 03:05:35 PM  

Dimensio: morlinge: I'd also like to bring up the recent post about barackofraudo.com claiming that the election was stolen.

I examined this website. Apparently the author believes that Mr. Romney was entitled to a certain percentage of votes from certain urban areas and that him receiving a lower percentage is proof that electoral fraud occurred. I do not believe that the author understands how electoral fraud works.


Exactly the proof that there must be voter fraud is that they didn't get votes. Obviously they should have had millions of votes everywhere. So the fact that they didn't is proof of fraud. Q.E.D.
 
2012-11-20 03:07:19 PM  

qorkfiend: rufus-t-firefly: Dimensio: Is the "Obamaphone" a subset of "Obama's gifts", or does it require a separate listing?

THIS.

I need a detailed list. I voted for Obama in 2008 and didn't get anything, but I still voted for him this year, so I farking better get one of the gifts I keep hearing so farking much about.

We got the corpse of Osama bin Laden feeding the fish at the bottom of the Indian Ocean. So there's that, at least.


He didn't kill that.
 
2012-11-20 03:14:27 PM  

Generation_D: So basically Republicans suck if they win and suck if they lose.

But when they lose is a hell of a lot better for the country.


The GOP has made "Obama can't do anything right" their platform for the past 3 years. To have one of their leaders say otherwise that close to the election is pretty damaging.
 
2012-11-20 03:16:03 PM  

flux: Now imagine what your life would be without most of that disappointment and humiliation. You got pretty much everything you wanted starting at a young age. You've never lost a job. You've never been through a break-up. You've been successful in everything and have made it to sixty-five years of age without having to suffer any real disappointments, and this has left your emotional defenses against disappointment as soft as a newborn's belly. Now imagine going from that to facing total humiliation on a national scale, being rejected, for the first time, not by a girl you like, but by a majority of Americans voters. How do you think your psyche would handle that?

I don't have a lot of sympathy for the guy, but I can understand why he's reacting badly.


Because he's an emotionally stunted Man-Baby who doesn't know how to handle failure.

yeah, I can see that
 
2012-11-20 03:21:05 PM  

MSFT: timujin: I challenge anyone to find a statistically relevant number of people who say they changed their vote from Romney to Obama because of anything to do with Christie.

It's a gut feeling that you liberal elites wouldn't understand.


Kind of like dysentery?
 
2012-11-20 03:25:07 PM  

VJStinger: FooDog: Tally so far...

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove
Blacks
Single women
Hispanics
Young people
Gays
Math
Nate Silver
Liberal Media
Chrysler
Tropical storm Isaac
Tax returns
American Red Cross
New Black Panthers
St. Vincent DePaul Soup Kitchen
Roof Dogs
Bureau of Labor Statistics
Internal combustion engines
Trees not of the right height
The Star Spangled Banner America the Beautiful


That will go down in history as one of the most effective campaign ads ever.
 
2012-11-20 03:26:10 PM  

jso2897: MSFT: timujin: I challenge anyone to find a statistically relevant number of people who say they changed their vote from Romney to Obama because of anything to do with Christie.

It's a gut feeling that you liberal elites wouldn't understand.

Kind of like dysentery?


Goddammit I'm at the doctor's office. Gonna be awkward walking past the nurses station right outside of the door now.
 
2012-11-20 03:30:07 PM  

Dimensio: qorkfiend: rufus-t-firefly: Dimensio: Is the "Obamaphone" a subset of "Obama's gifts", or does it require a separate listing?

THIS.

I need a detailed list. I voted for Obama in 2008 and didn't get anything, but I still voted for him this year, so I farking better get one of the gifts I keep hearing so farking much about.

We got the corpse of Osama bin Laden feeding the fish at the bottom of the Indian Ocean. So there's that, at least.

He didn't kill that.


Yeah, and Caesar didn't conquer Gaul. Pull the other one, it has bells on it. Yeah, like that. Aw yeah.
 
2012-11-20 03:32:36 PM  
s10.postimage.org


/just because I had the code still copypasta'd
 
2012-11-20 03:38:07 PM  

FooDog: Tally so far...

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove
Blacks
Single women
Hispanics
Young people
Gays
Math
Nate Silver
Liberal Media
Chrysler
Tropical storm Isaac
Tax returns
American Red Cross
New Black Panthers
St. Vincent DePaul Soup Kitchen
Roof Dogs
Bureau of Labor Statistics


People who own kitchen appliances

Not sure if it had been added yet, must continue to read the thread.
 
2012-11-20 03:47:21 PM  

thepostess: FooDog: Tally so far...

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove
Blacks
Single women
Hispanics
Young people
Gays
Math
Nate Silver
Liberal Media
Chrysler
Tropical storm Isaac
Tax returns
American Red Cross
New Black Panthers
St. Vincent DePaul Soup Kitchen
Roof Dogs
Bureau of Labor Statistics

People who own kitchen appliances

Not sure if it had been added yet, must continue to read the thread.




Horses, bayonets and binders full of women
 
2012-11-20 03:47:41 PM  
To paraphrase someone from this website the day after the election:

If Chris Christie saying a few nice things about Obama during a time of national crisis was enough to override $1.3 billion being spent on getting your message out to the masses, perhaps it was that your message was the problem.
 
2012-11-20 03:52:00 PM  
s10.postimage.org 

Romney looks like he is rubbing one out in his right hand pocket.

/Killing kittens since Nov 7 2012.
 
2012-11-20 03:52:17 PM  
I don't like Christie. I don't care for his politics.

But I'll be damned if he gets saddled with the excuse of the entirety of the GOP/Teabagger bunch for speaking his mind at a time of crisis for his state.

He was doing his job, the job he was elected to do, and insofar as I can tell he wasn't farking around.

These douchebags need to look in a mirror to realize why they did so badly in this election.
 
2012-11-20 03:57:26 PM  

lordjupiter: thepostess: FooDog: Tally so far...

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove
Blacks
Single women
Hispanics
Young people
Gays
Math
Nate Silver
Liberal Media
Chrysler
Tropical storm Isaac
Tax returns
American Red Cross
New Black Panthers
St. Vincent DePaul Soup Kitchen
Roof Dogs
Bureau of Labor Statistics

People who own kitchen appliances

Not sure if it had been added yet, must continue to read the thread.



Horses, bayonets and binders full of women


Let's just all agree that the list is ever-expanding, and whenever it's needed to call upon it, rather than list each co-conspirator, we do what conservatives do, and bunch them all up in one amalgam we'll refer to as, "those people." (italics for the sneer that is supposed to accompany that word)
 
2012-11-20 04:05:03 PM  

MSFT: timujin: I challenge anyone to find a statistically relevant number of people who say they changed their vote from Romney to Obama because of anything to do with Christie.

It's a gut feeling that you liberal elites wouldn't understand.


Look, I get that, based on what happened during the election, the current crop of Republicans don't really like math, statistics, or polling...

But if this is their contention, that it was Christie that lost them the election, then it's pretty easy to find out for sure. Take some of that leftover PAC money and hire a polling agency (I would recommend against Gallup) to call up voters, find out who they voted for and if they changed their vote. If they did so, then why they changed it. That's the kind of information that could help shape their next run. Or they can just keep feeling around in the dark, hoping their gut tells them the right thing to do.
 
2012-11-20 04:06:43 PM  
honkie biatch lib woulda beat mit's ass 65-35

honkie "UNDECIDED" negra haters represented 15% of total voters
how come nobody reflects on this obvious fact.

fatso christy saw rmoney as a loser from the getgo. now he's got a realistic shot at 2016 running as a smart mouth "moderate". starts his weightatchers program jan 1
 
2012-11-20 04:10:07 PM  
You know what? If Romney did pick Christie, he might very well have won the election. The relief efforts after Hurricane Sandy could have been seen as proof of how "Presidential" Christie was and this would have been a boost for the gop side.

However, Romney's filthy rich handlers (Hi, Sheldon) instead demanded a Randian zealot like Paul Ryan to be the next Sarah Palin, and between the "47% video" and the general "f*ck the poor!" attitude, Romney's goose was cooked.

And further irony shows that Christie IS what the future of the gop should look like if they ever, EVER, want to see the inside of the White House ever again.

IMO, I hope Christie never runs for President. The right wing kingmakers and moneybrokers would corrupt him just as terribly as they did to McCain. Just look at what they did to that guy.
 
2012-11-20 04:22:26 PM  

TV's Vinnie: IMO, I hope Christie never runs for President. The right wing kingmakers and moneybrokers would corrupt him just as terribly as they did to McCain. Just look at what they did to that guy.


Right, because before that, John McCain was really upstanding and ethical.

images.usatoday.com

Why, hello there, Charles Keating! What are you doing here?
 
2012-11-20 04:25:42 PM  

timujin: MSFT: timujin: I challenge anyone to find a statistically relevant number of people who say they changed their vote from Romney to Obama because of anything to do with Christie.

It's a gut feeling that you liberal elites wouldn't understand.

Look, I get that, based on what happened during the election, the current crop of Republicans don't really like math, statistics, or polling...

But if this is their contention, that it was Christie that lost them the election, then it's pretty easy to find out for sure. Take some of that leftover PAC money and hire a polling agency (I would recommend against Gallup) to call up voters, find out who they voted for and if they changed their vote. If they did so, then why they changed it. That's the kind of information that could help shape their next run. Or they can just keep feeling around in the dark, hoping their gut tells them the right thing to do.


No. Like the age of the earth, it will always be unknowable and a source of wonder.
Best to leave it up to theologians and political pundits.
 
2012-11-20 04:45:57 PM  

Kevin72: lordjupiter: peter21: Let's try to look at this objectively here. What did the Romney campaign do right?

But yeah, it was Chris Christie's fault.


Romney wasn't even in the ballgame until Obama slept through the first debate. If Obama hadn't let Romney get that little bit of momentum, none of this last-minute fingerpointing would be taking place. They'd be pointing fingers, of course, but they'd be blaming things that are more long-term.

That first debate is how Obama not only defeated Romney, but how Obama rope-a-doped the entire Republican and Tea Parties.


Mentat: Obama's strategy for the next four years should be to troll the hell out of every viable Republican candidate by being nice to him. Shake Paul Ryan's hand on camera and say, "I was really worried when they picked you for Veep." High five Christie. Slap Scott Walker onthe back and say "Congratulations on the recall."


Trollbama enters the pantheon of troll-gods
 
2012-11-20 05:10:26 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: [i.imgur.com image 600x330]

This picture should win a Pulitzer.


Someone please photoshop this with Gas Station Romney?

/tia
 
2012-11-20 05:14:25 PM  
That's it GOP. Keep crapping on Republicans who are effective in their job. The sooner the sane ones break off and start their own party, the better.
 
2012-11-20 05:15:47 PM  

Lando Lincoln: Because that might cast doubt on the Republican message. And we all know their message is fine.


If anything, their message should have been even more hard line. They really need to double down on chastising the poor and the sluts if they want to win America's hearts and minds. That and moar tax cuts.
 
2012-11-20 05:42:47 PM  

ArgusRun: What I don't understand is Mitt. He has enough money to have clout anywhere he decides to hang his hat. (Besides the political ring) If he simply said he got beat, disappeared for a year and then set up a big foundation, he'd be fine. Instead he's hissing and spitting and lashing out, and I don't get it.


Partly, he thinks he deserves it. This is a man so insulated against the reality of the world in which he lives that he thinks that running into a burning building while it's being shot at is basically the same thing as him running for President. The other part of it, and this is probably connected to why he lost as well, is that he's not a very good politician.
 
2012-11-20 06:46:30 PM  

lordjupiter: thepostess: FooDog: Tally so far...

Hurricane Sandy
The 47%
Debate moderators
Obama's gifts
Chris Christie
Todd Akin
Richard Mourdock
Karl Rove
Blacks
Single women
Hispanics
Young people
Gays
Math
Nate Silver
Liberal Media
Chrysler
Tropical storm Isaac
Tax returns
American Red Cross
New Black Panthers
St. Vincent DePaul Soup Kitchen
Roof Dogs
Bureau of Labor Statistics
People who own kitchen appliances
Horses, bayonets and binders full of women


poker-faced empty chair
 
2012-11-20 07:09:51 PM  

Dimensio: firefly212: Dear GOP, you didn't get my vote because you openly hate me. I'm one of the working poor who is excited about the prospect of decent health insurance. I'm one of the gay people you think you should be able to deny equal rights to. I'm one of the people who barely contributes via income tax, but still pays a higher effective tax rate (sales, payroll, social security, medicare) than Mitt Romney. I'm one of the people who, when I call for government to actually do something useful for me, you berate and call a "taker," despite your financial adoration of subsidies for everyone who is already doing ok. You can blame Christie, "gifts," hurricanes (or other acts of God), but unless you stop using your policies to try to decide whether lawmakers know whether mj or neurontin has worse side effects, who I can marry, and whether or not my ownership of a refrigerator means I should pay more taxes so our illustrious "job creators" can have another tax break, you're not getting my vote.

You are only proving the Republican narrative correct by putting your own financial well-being and civil liberties above the wishes of Christian theocrats and wealthy business owners who may now be forced to pay 2% more of their annual income to the government.


On a serious note, they really do seem to be portraying everyone who asks the government to do something useful for a change as "greedy" or "moochers." I pay plenty in taxes, is it too much to ask that some of that go towards things useful to me like healthcare or mass transit instead of funding the SEC or buying thousands more tanks than the Army wants? The problem for the GOP is that even if I were moderate (I'm not), they're trying to sell the idea that inefficient government is good, and that only bad people would expect the government to do something useful with their money. I just don't see how they close any of the demographic gaps when they're trying to sell the idea that we should vote for them because they'll continue wasting our money on crap of little to no benefit.
 
2012-11-20 09:04:25 PM  
Is this a way to make Chris Christie look good for 2016? I can't think of a better way for Romney to endorse anyone than how Romney is currently endorsing Christie.
 
2012-11-20 09:57:36 PM  

monoski: He had no chance of winning NY or NJ. This is just meaningless finger-pointing. He needs to accept the fact that his message does not sell to over half of the country (you know the ones who want free stuff)


he would have had to *have* a message in the first place.
 
2012-11-20 10:48:12 PM  
Christie is a bright man.

Bright enuff to avoid running in 2012 against a popular and competent incumbent.

Bright enuff to screen his calls when Mitt's veep exploration committee came a'knockin'.

Bright enuff to spend his time at the podium during the RNC talking about himself and not Mitt Romney.

Bright enuff to know when to drop petty partisan tactics roll down his sleeves and fix the problem not the blame in the wake of Sandy

Romney, FOX, Murdoch, the Teatards and RW radio blowhards are al shooting themselves in the foot trying to make him the scapegoat for the fact that Mitt was a shiat candidate,.

My guess is Christie rides this current wave of derp out and comes out of the box swinging in 2016.

Looking for reasons Mitt lost is fun but rather time consuming.

Anyone wanna try to give even one reason why he deserved to win?

Just one.

/I'll wait over here and eat some pie.
//Mmmmm, pies are good.
 
2012-11-20 10:52:46 PM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: monoski: He had no chance of winning NY or NJ. This is just meaningless finger-pointing. He needs to accept the fact that his message does not sell to over half of the country (you know the ones who want free stuff)

he would have had to *have* a message in the first place.


That's the whole thing about Hurricane Sandy: If Romney actually believed in his campaign themes he could have won.

All through the campaign Obama's message was, "You didn't built it (alone) / We're all in this together / government can help you." And Romney's campaign message was, "Private enterprise is superior to government / individual charity beats welfare / bootstraps, etc." Both sides have rubbed these talking points down to meaningless nubs. But then a hurricane hits and Obama goes and illustrates his campaign themes in a practical setting. Where, then, was Romney?

If I were a campaign advisor I'd have Romney roll up his sleeves, donate $5 million, get his billionaire donors to pitch in and start a 'Private Citizen FEMA'... show off the government by being there first with hot food, street cleaning, stuff like that. Even as a crass political stunt it would show some sort of initiative and at least give Christie the room to stump for GOP. It could have made Republicans for once look unselfish and inclusive. But instead the East Coast got nothing. Romney, the richest candidate in U.S. history, couldn't spare a dime.

The lesson: Obama, say what you will, actually believes his cliched campaign slogans. He practices what he preaches. Romney on the other hand is a cynical, spineless political scavenger who would laugh in my face if I suggested he donate his own money to help in a crisis. No, that's what governments are for. He *didn't* build it, and he certainly wasn't going to rebuild it either.

Romney had a perfect opportunity to prove the existence of 'compassionate conservatism.' By slinking away from Sandy he instead proved it simply doesn't exist, and that Obama's arguments have a real-world application.

It wasn't about people wanting 'free stuff' from the candidates, it was about wanting some basic sincerity.
 
2012-11-20 11:52:53 PM  

dletter: it is kind of hard for Madagascar to start a war with the U.S.


He typically just shuts down everything before the war can even start.
 
2012-11-20 11:53:53 PM  

dletter: That is the thing here. The GOP likes to say that the democrats play with "Class Warfare", but, I think the war started on the other side..... it is kind of hard for Madagascar to start a war with the U.S.


Technically speaking, this war goes back to the 1890's with the high water mark during the New Deal. FDR was an interesting man. He certainly wasn't the guy you would expect to stick it to the Man.
 
2012-11-21 12:07:45 AM  

Darth Macho: The lesson: Obama, say what you will, actually believes his cliched campaign slogans. He practices what he preaches. Romney on the other hand is a cynical, spineless political scavenger who would laugh in my face if I suggested he donate his own money to help in a crisis. No, that's what governments are for. He *didn't* build it, and he certainly wasn't going to rebuild it either.


I don't think that most of the conservative base really cares all that much about helping others, either. They're also selfish.

E.G.: "But in the days after the storm, Mr. Christie and his advisers were startled to hear from out-of-state donors to Mr. Romney, who had little interest in the hurricane and viewed him solely as a campaign surrogate, demanding to know why he had stood so close to the president on a tarmac. One of them questioned why he had boarded Mr. Obama's helicopter, according to people briefed on the conversations."

I think David Frum had a good point in his latest Newsweek article. The Republicans plays to a (selfish) white base. But that base is getting old, and they want (nay, deserve!) their entitlements, too.

So, do they continue with their small government rhetoric? Do they court non-whites and homosexuals? Or do they keep doubling down on a shrinking base?

The party of Lincoln is a house divided.
 
2012-11-21 12:49:17 AM  

spiderpaz: So, by Teapublican logic (which boils down to politicizing everything and acting like an angry spoiled child), Christie is BAD because he chose to put politics aside and do what's best for his state during a crisis rather than politicizing the storm and sinking to new lows, putting his citizen's lives at risk for a chance to stick it to Obama.

Got it.


Pretty much.

Yes, in that sense, it WAS Christie's fault, because he DID step outside party lockstep and said, You know what? I don't have time for this shiat right now. My state needs a leader, not a party player; I need to be a governor right now, not a GOP drone; and the people of New Jersey need help, not business as usual. And when he did that, he showed the other GOP lockstep drones that it was OKAY to step outside the party line, and enough of them did that to make a difference in the election.
 
2012-11-21 12:51:22 AM  

quatchi: Christie is a bright man.

Bright enuff to avoid running in 2012 against a popular and competent incumbent.

Bright enuff to screen his calls when Mitt's veep exploration committee came a'knockin'.

Bright enuff to spend his time at the podium during the RNC talking about himself and not Mitt Romney.

Bright enuff to know when to drop petty partisan tactics roll down his sleeves and fix the problem not the blame in the wake of Sandy


But is he bright enuff to know how to spell the word "enough"?
 
2012-11-21 01:00:38 AM  

quatchi: Christie is a bright man.

Bright enuff to avoid running in 2012 against a popular and competent incumbent.

Bright enuff to screen his calls when Mitt's veep exploration committee came a'knockin'.

Bright enuff to spend his time at the podium during the RNC talking about himself and not Mitt Romney.

Bright enuff to know when to drop petty partisan tactics roll down his sleeves and fix the problem not the blame in the wake of Sandy

Romney, FOX, Murdoch, the Teatards and RW radio blowhards are al shooting themselves in the foot trying to make him the scapegoat for the fact that Mitt was a shiat candidate,.

My guess is Christie rides this current wave of derp out and comes out of the box swinging in 2016.

Looking for reasons Mitt lost is fun but rather time consuming.

Anyone wanna try to give even one reason why he deserved to win?

Just one.

/I'll wait over here and eat some pie.
//Mmmmm, pies are good.


It was Mitt's turn! Did you not receive the gold-embossed memo?

\This is what republicans named Romney actually believe.
 
2012-11-21 01:15:19 AM  

Chameleon: But is he bright enuff to know how to spell the word "enough"?


Prolly.

^_^
 
2012-11-21 01:17:55 AM  

Evil High Priest: It was Mitt's turn! Did you not receive the gold-embossed memo?


Nope, prolly got lost in the same batch of mail that my invite to the Royal Wedding was in.

\This is what republicans named Romney actually believe.

Well, it's nice to know that he finally believes in something.
 
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