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(NPR)   Scientists working with Mars rover Curiosity could tell you what types of molecules their GC-MS found in the sand, but they would have to kill you. As their ChemCam laser is out of range I will reveal that [no carrier]   (npr.org ) divider line
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2012-11-20 09:42:44 PM  
They found Judge Crater.
 
2012-11-20 10:51:31 PM  

LoneWolf343: Some "Sky Fairy" believers have said that alien life is impossible. However, they aren't a majority, and they aren't saying it very loudly.


This. My folks are pretty hard-core Catholics and they think there was / is microbial life on Mars. Like most, they take some of the bible as allegory and other parts as historic accounts. Hey, I can't explain how they decided which is which. But they most certainly believe the odds of there being life on other planets is very high.

But still...

"God created the sun, the stars, the heavens and the earth, and then made Adam and Eve. The Bible never says anything about dinosaurs. You can't say there were dinosaurs when you never saw them. Somebody actually saw Adam and Eve. No one ever saw a Tyrannosaurus rex." --Carl Everett
 
2012-11-20 11:35:56 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: The majority of Christian denominations haven't accepted a literal interpretation of the Bible for a long time


The clergy of the majority of Christian denominations yes. Laity much less so. And the denominations which the clergy does accept a literal interpretation are the ones which are right now in a far better shape.

But if life was discovered in a way that could not be denied, even the fundies would come up with a way to shoehorn it into their "literal" interpretation.
 
2012-11-21 01:12:55 AM  

heypete: LazarusLong42: Sure, but it's rare on Earth, and would be great for fusion power. Why just imagine if we had an easy source of He-3 just a hundred million miles away or so! It's like a trip to the corner store.

Indeed. The moon's got a pile of Helium-3. No need to go to Mars.

According to Popular Mechanics, "Digging a patch of lunar surface roughly three-quarters of a square mile to a depth of about 9 ft. should yield about 220 pounds of helium-3--enough to power a city the size of Dallas or Detroit for a year."

Still, that seems not so efficient.


FYI Burning He3 is still harder than burning D-T under purely Maxwellian velocity distributions. Practically speaking even D-T isn't going to cut it with those assumptions. Luckily Maxwellian velocity distributions aren't particularly accurate for lots of laboratory (and solar) plasmas. They are turbulent and reflect Tsallis distrubutions. About the time we can get P-B to scientific break even He3 will become economically viable.
In other words there's no point in trying to wade around in space like we got a pair when we can't even make shiat work on the ground. Energy is the name of the game in space exploration and its also important to humanity's continued prosperous existence here on Earth.
Unless that robot finds some good alien tech we can use to harvest vacuuum energy it's only marginally better that the 99% of worthless crap humans are spending their surplus cash on.
 
2012-11-21 01:28:23 AM  
The big ticket items that need to be cut are as follows, BTW:
1. The Financial Industry (i.e. making the rich and their con artist minions richer)
2. Healthcare
3. Pointless foreign wars and the craptech that fails to support them

We could get about 1.5-2 trillion a year in america alone from this to spend on developing fusion energy and create a lot of highly productive supporting jobs in the process. Supporting tech like cryogenics, superconductors, high field magnet design, advanced plasma physics, ultra capacitors and related material science could yield innumerable benefits to the development of new technologies and to industry in general.
But instead we're gonna keep farking that same old chicken we've been farking for the past 50 years.
Slainte.
 
2012-11-21 03:35:05 AM  
I was thinking they may have found fossils of more complex life forms. Something as complex as a trilobite, perhaps. That would be a huge discovery.

Given the clues though, I bet its just a meteorite that is terrestrial in origin. Some flotsam that was thrown off from a massive prehistoric comet/meteor collision with earth ended up crashing into Mars. The odds of a piece of our planet being flung at random into the cosmos, only to come to rest under the feet of out robots millions of years later are literally astronomical. Not terribly exciting to the layman though.
 
2012-11-21 04:50:50 AM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: justtray: As for how this impacts religion, well that should be obvious. All the major religions are based on a literal interpretation of their various Bibles. When you prove now without a doubt that those texts are make believe, the entire foundation of the religions themselves are shattered. The only evidence to even support 'God' has then been dismissed.

The majority of Christian denominations haven't accepted a literal interpretation of the Bible for a long time. The existence of alien life shatters nothing. If aliens landed tomorrow the first thing the major religions of the world would do would be to try and convert them.


If they don't accept a literal definition of the Bible then they're not Christians (or whatever book/religion you'd care to substitute). The Bible is the only thing which has ever defined its religion so it stands to reason that if you ignore the definition of a religion you're ignoring the religion itself. And it's not selective - you can't pick and choose what you'd like to believe and what you'd rather redefine to suit your desire. The whole basis of the Bible's power is that it's the literal word of god. If you don't believe it to be the word of god, it's just a bunch of fables collected into the ancient world's greatest hits. If you do believe it's the word of god then you're required to believe that god is infallible and that it has to be interpreted literally. Unless, of course, you feel that you're more qualified to define your religion than your deity.

/Superbia?
//Your god commands that you kill me. Literally.
 
2012-11-21 06:23:12 AM  

Egoy3k: I have two guesses, evidence of microbial life or rare earth elements.

The second one could launch a space race between the US and china that actually would change history.


Keep that rare earth shiat on the down low, Curiosity.
Now, let's build you a set of twins for extraction and removal, and back-to-earth transportation.
Good news is, you can keep one as a friend.
 
2012-11-21 01:04:15 PM  
They found Wilt Chamberlain's DNA in a hole in the moon.
 
2012-11-21 04:42:02 PM  

Mr. Ekshun: To The Escape Zeppelin!: justtray: As for how this impacts religion, well that should be obvious. All the major religions are based on a literal interpretation of their various Bibles. When you prove now without a doubt that those texts are make believe, the entire foundation of the religions themselves are shattered. The only evidence to even support 'God' has then been dismissed.

The majority of Christian denominations haven't accepted a literal interpretation of the Bible for a long time. The existence of alien life shatters nothing. If aliens landed tomorrow the first thing the major religions of the world would do would be to try and convert them.

If they don't accept a literal definition of the Bible then they're not Christians (or whatever book/religion you'd care to substitute). The Bible is the only thing which has ever defined its religion so it stands to reason that if you ignore the definition of a religion you're ignoring the religion itself. And it's not selective - you can't pick and choose what you'd like to believe and what you'd rather redefine to suit your desire. The whole basis of the Bible's power is that it's the literal word of god. If you don't believe it to be the word of god, it's just a bunch of fables collected into the ancient world's greatest hits. If you do believe it's the word of god then you're required to believe that god is infallible and that it has to be interpreted literally. Unless, of course, you feel that you're more qualified to define your religion than your deity.

/Superbia?
//Your god commands that you kill me. Literally.


If you're logic holds true and everything has to be believed, then why is it that slaves aren't used as barter? I mean, it's been a few years since I last went to church, but I distinctly remember that slavery was frowned upon. The Bible does have guidelines on slave values, so why isn't that used anymore? Only the minority extremists believe what you're saying.

I see more vocal atheists IRL than I do anyone else. I swear that you're worse than ex-smokers and ex-acloholics. Like they have have a chip on your shoulder that they have to prove.

Though, the earlier statement is correct. The Vatican is already accepting the possibility of alien life and preparing for that eventuality. And if they show up I'm sure there will be lots of people trying to save their souls.
 
2012-11-21 04:54:16 PM  
Farts. They found Martian farts.
 
2012-11-21 05:58:47 PM  
It would be great if they found chlorophyll or a related compound.
 
2012-11-21 06:53:26 PM  

Third Bloc Meltdown: It would be great if they found chlorophyll or a related compound.


They probably found some chemical signature that is (or was) a marker for life. However, there are other processes that can create it so it's non conclusive as proof of past or current life.
 
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