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(Daily Kos)   Apparently, thousands of conservatives DID emigrate to Australia, since MSNBC is now beating FOX in the primetime ratings   (dailykos.com) divider line 186
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2012-11-20 09:24:35 PM

Cythraul: I'd probably hate living in another country anyway. Would be too much of a culture shock.


It's the culture shock that makes it so very enjoyable. Without it, I wouldn't have bothered.
 
2012-11-20 09:28:51 PM

Mrtraveler01: You can be a Christian anytime you want, no one is stopping you.


Many religious people insist on a belief in the supernatural. Namely, a reanimated corpse.
 
2012-11-20 09:39:43 PM

Headso: Fox news was totally wrong about the Romney landslide, I would think if you watched fox news for their accuracy in reporting you might jump ship after that debacle.


You might think that.
But only a couple of days later I see one of my brothers pushing Dick Morris' Black Helicopter book on Facebook.

/Triple Fark...he's a NASA scientist.
 
2012-11-20 09:45:01 PM

wademh: No, not really. You were there in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan.


When we were asked to come by the US. Something about coalition building.

Our racist minority is that - a racist minority. A loon bubbles up in Queensland, makes some noise, is roundly ridiculed by the media and the populace, then sinks back down.

If you want to take shots, ridicule politicians who don't use mobile phones trying to design internet legislation.
 
2012-11-20 09:48:03 PM

0Icky0: Headso: Fox news was totally wrong about the Romney landslide, I would think if you watched fox news for their accuracy in reporting you might jump ship after that debacle.

You might think that.
But only a couple of days later I see one of my brothers pushing Dick Morris' Black Helicopter book on Facebook.

/Triple Fark...he's a NASA scientist.


Jeez, I feel sorry for you man, if your brother is peddling Dick Morris' crap.
 
2012-11-20 09:48:44 PM
I'm too farking tired to dig through all of the comments, but did anyone actually look at the current data?

The victory seems to have been short lived.

Link

/I do not even have Fox or MSNBC on my cable and am quite happy about it.
 
2012-11-20 09:54:13 PM

Mrtraveler01:
I still can't figure out how one can be an atheist and "aspire to be a person of faith".
It's not that hard. You can be a Christian anytime you want, no one is stopping you.


My great uncle Msgr. Joseph Harnett, has said that he "prays for faith every day". I also did not understand that when I was a lad. I asked him if he had no faith, who did he think he was praying to? He seemed charmed at once by my reasoning and naiveté. I knew then he was a man of tremendous joy and later learned of his sense of duty, responsibility and justice. During the Vietnam war he met with the Vietnamese leaders of both sides using his ability to act as liaison to plead them find solutions to stop the fighting. He also drove many refugees from the North through military barricades, pedal to the floor, heads down, taking gunfire. Later in his life he ran Catholic Relief Charities from his office in the Vatican. From there and in the field he worked alongside Mother Theresa (herself an atheist who aspired to be a person of faith) to feed, clothe and bring medicine to needy people around the world. He worked in that capacity until his death. I was in the military when Joseph died. The American Red Cross personally contacted me, had me temporarily relieved from active duty and flown to be at his funeral. That's a lotta cheddar for someone who "aspires to be a person of faith". (csb?)
 
2012-11-20 09:55:38 PM

Wessoman: Dusk-You-n-Me: I'd like to see the numbers for Up With Chris. Fantastic show, seems to be building a following.

I just wanted to say THIS. Chris Hayes is probably the most intelligent roundtable discussion show, period. Basically, it's what McLaughlin has been trying to do his entire career but did not have the talent to do. Personally, I think he should get an hour a night, talk about one subject, and move Ed earlier or whatever.


Or we could just axe Ed altogether. I like Maddow and Hayes, but Ed sucks. The left doesn't need a Limbaugh.
 
2012-11-20 09:58:16 PM

Ablejack: From there and in the field he worked alongside Mother Theresa (herself an atheist who aspired to be a person of faith)


Not many people know this.
 
2012-11-20 10:45:36 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Diogenes: I never took this seriously when Bill-O and Olbermann were having their ratings spats. Why should it matter to me now? I know what I like to watch. What everyone else watches is their business.

I only care to the extent that Hannity is annoyed/angered/bothered by drawing less of an audience than Maddow. That has to stick in his craw, and that happies me.


Hannjtty, when the ratings fell.

/sorry, didn't get enough from the McCain/Benghazi thread.
 
2012-11-20 11:31:34 PM

Cataholic: Actual headline (three blogs in to the actual source)

Maddow, O'Donnell Win Demo Last Week, But Fox News Still on Top in Primetime

Link

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In network TV world, "ratings" means the 18-49 demo. The young and the old don't matter much to most advertisers (only the niche products like toys and boner pills). And FOX has had a stranglehold on the 18-49 for years and it's significant that it seems to be eroding away. FOX could be in trouble when the boomers go bye bye if they can't get the younger generations tuned in when they get old.
 
2012-11-20 11:56:09 PM

nekom: I hate to break it to you, but Australia is NOT more conservative than the United States. No nation outside of the Islamic world is. Sorry, there's just nowhere for you guys to go. Liberals have tons of options, as there are PLENTY of nations more liberal than the USA.


A strongly theocratic country in which religious leaders rule over the country to promote holy moral values, that follow strong conservative values, promote the use of oil, love having a strong military, virtually no taxes on the people, and an outright ban on abortion. Yep, Iran is the perfect country for these groups.
 
2012-11-21 12:07:55 AM
Uh, no they didn't....

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/11/20/cable-news-ratings-for-mo n day-november-19-2012/158364/
 
2012-11-21 12:29:09 AM

Happy Hours: Interesting, but I'm still disturbed that most of you treat this as a college football rivalry. Woohoo!!!!! The liberals are winning!!! Take that Fox News!.



Maybe we should care more about our country than we do about our political affiliation.


One works for the country, the other are neo-cons (actual conservatives decided to take the generation off, it seems). I say go liberals.
 
2012-11-21 12:29:46 AM
I'd like to think that Faux News blatantly lying to its audience about the last election would prove to their viewers that they lie about EVERYTHING, and thus people are turning them off. But I'm sure there's a much dumber explanation for this, like half their audience forgot how to turn dur teevees on.
 
2012-11-21 12:47:52 AM

abb3w: I wonder how much of this is from conservatives no longer being able to stand watching the news.


It's funny you should mention that. One of my teabagger coworkers has sworn off Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity and Beck ever since the election. (poutrage voice) "What's the point of staying informed!" (/poutrage voice) He did not appear to be joking.
 
2012-11-21 12:54:22 AM
Yay! One source of propaganda traded for another. Both full of lies. Nice.
 
2012-11-21 12:55:42 AM

sid2112: Uh, no they didn't....

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/11/20/cable-news-ratings-for-mo n day-november-19-2012/158364/


You mean the DailyKomrade misrepresented the ratings to let their Fellow Travelers and the Fark Progressive Brigade do this:

i.qkme.me

Say it isn't so!
 
2012-11-21 01:02:55 AM
I'm pretty meh on MSNBC. Rachel Maddow's show is great but that's pretty much the only MSNBC I expose myself to, and that's only because it's available in podcast form on Stitcher. Anytime I've ever tried to tune in during a live news event (the debates, the elections, the conventions) it's insufferable.

Fox is hated because they're dishonest. If they were right wing but didn't make up bullshiat all the time, they would be less hated. They're cartoonishly manipulative which makes them by far the most fun to watch during live news events.
 
2012-11-21 01:08:06 AM

Mrtraveler01: I still can't figure out how one can be an atheist and "aspire to be a person of faith".

It's not that hard. You can be a Christian anytime you want, no one is stopping you.


I can't speak for others, but it's impossible for me to be truly Christian. Sometimes, but not always, I'd like to replace the cold reality of skepticism with the warm ignorance of faith, certain in that my family, my friends, and I get to live in paradise forever. I think it would take a pretty hefty restructuring of my brain's processes, or some substantive evidence, for that to actually occur.
 
2012-11-21 01:28:18 AM

Happy Hours: Interesting, but I'm still disturbed that most of you treat this as a college football rivalry. Woohoo!!!!! The liberals are winning!!! Take that Fox News!.



Maybe we should care more about our country than we do about our political affiliation.


If the liberals win, America wins. We are rooting for America.
 
2012-11-21 01:43:45 AM
More people now prefer watching news and insightful analysis as opposed to being lied to 24/7?

*considers this*

Meh, prolly just a fad.

/Yes, going for a record with that word tonight, just because.
//Rachel Maddow alone > FOX
 
2012-11-21 01:57:43 AM

Ablejack: CapeFearCadaver: Ablejack: O'Reilly cares about ratings. He has often argued that Fox's higher rating meant conservatism is evidently the more popular philosophy. Now I suppose Bill O'Reilly thinks the liberal voice better expresses the beliefs and concerns of our nation.

I wonder if they realize just how many people who don't agree with them watch/listen to them... I'm talking about Beck, Limbaugh, O'Reilly, etc....

/especially Rush

True, I watch Fox at times and occasionally enjoy Rush Limbaugh's inane blathering as well. Keep your friends close...


When I'm in my taxi and waiting for a call, I've been listening to Glenn Beck's radio show for the lulz.
 
2012-11-21 02:02:54 AM
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Its because Foxnewz has finally, undoubtedly, indisputably been exposed for the yellow journalism fraudsters that they are.
 
2012-11-21 02:27:40 AM
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2012-11-21 02:42:17 AM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Wessoman: Dusk-You-n-Me: I'd like to see the numbers for Up With Chris. Fantastic show, seems to be building a following.

I just wanted to say THIS. Chris Hayes is probably the most intelligent roundtable discussion show, period. Basically, it's what McLaughlin has been trying to do his entire career but did not have the talent to do. Personally, I think he should get an hour a night, talk about one subject, and move Ed earlier or whatever.

Or we could just axe Ed altogether. I like Maddow and Hayes, but Ed sucks. The left doesn't need a Limbaugh.


Pretty much. I think Chris Hayes would be infinitely better than Ed as a lead in to Rachel Maddow. Come for the god-tier analysis, stay for the hipster music selection. Basically, relegate Ed as a troll and send him to every Republican fundraiser possible.
 
2012-11-21 03:10:40 AM
Fox still has the ratings advantage, but imagine what would happen if MSNBC could put up a moderate, sensible host who doesn't talk about Benghazi for 60 minutes? MSNBC's hosts are just as much a joke as Fox's. I personally think that both networks are trying to grab ratings from subgroups of viewers who are stupid and make poor decisions. Hannity gets the middle-aged but low intelligence white malish crowd, Greta gets the old women, Maddow gets younger women with poor judgment, etc.
 
2012-11-21 03:13:27 AM
Didn't mean to imply MSNBC talks about Benghazi, but I did mean to imply that the hosts are nowhere near moderate, and the network could conceivably provide a legitimate alternative to FNC.
 
2012-11-21 05:49:02 AM
I've never quite understood the "MSNBC IS JUST AS BAD AS FOX" line of thinking. No, they're not. They don't even do the same thing, aside from the 24 hour news cycle BS. Fox exists solely, all day, every day, as a right-wing spin machine. MSNBC acts as an actual news network for most of the day and provides progressive (read: based in reality) opinion programming at night.

The "you have to show both sides!" dichotomy in America is nonsense because one of the sides that you're supposed to (I'm looking at you, NPR) is constantly projectile vomiting nonsense into the air. Just because "two sides" of an issue exists doesn't mean that they're inherently entitled equal footing in the public sphere just because they exists. What happened to letting facts dictate the reality that the media presents?
 
2012-11-21 07:00:39 AM

sid2112: Uh, no they didn't....

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/11/20/cable-news-ratings-for-mo n day-november-19-2012/158364/


Remember when MSNBC used to be in 3rd and CNN was still a competing news network?

Pepperidge Farms remembers...
 
2012-11-21 08:26:30 AM

0Icky0: Cythraul: I'd probably hate living in another country anyway. Would be too much of a culture shock.

It's the culture shock that makes it so very enjoyable. Without it, I wouldn't have bothered.


I like culture shocks, while I'm learning about a nation and culture while I'm visiting. But while trying to live there? It'd probably make me home sick.
 
2012-11-21 08:33:55 AM

Elbarfo: Yay! One source of propaganda traded for another. Both full of lies. Nice.


Except, of course, that the "Lies" spouted off incessantly by MSNBC just happened to become overwhelmingly true this election cycle.

But do carry on with your BSABSVR nonsense. It's working for you guys splendidly.
 
2012-11-21 09:14:44 AM
I wonder how the GOP/FOX crowd feels about FOX's Benghazi scandal running out of gas like it did?

FOX: Benghazi!!!Benghazi!!!Benghazi!!!

FOX: GOP landslide victory comin' up!

REALITY: nope

FOX: Benghazi!!!Benghazi!!!Benghazi!!!

REALITY: nope

FOX viewers:
A) these liars are making fools of us
B) *insert fingers in ears* LALALALALALALALA! I can't hear you
C) honest mistake, next outrage please


/I know I'm betting on B and/or C
//suckers
 
2012-11-21 10:17:33 PM

Cythraul: I like culture shocks, while I'm learning about a nation and culture while I'm visiting. But while trying to live there? It'd probably make me home sick.


I guess it depends on where you're from. I'll take Hong Kong or Bangkok any day over Northern Illiinois Nowheresville. I haven't been homesick for a single hour in 30 years.
 
2012-11-21 10:26:30 PM

Crikey. Forget what I said in that other thread-

STOP THE BOATS
 
2012-11-22 03:27:33 PM

palladiate: Happy Hours: ginandbacon: Maybe you should direct that at the House GOP assholes

Go Team Dems! You tell those GOP assholes!

Rah rah rah! You're proving my point. You care more about denigrating the other party than you do about your country and for that I say fark you.

Yes, because this year we were so overwhelmed by liberal hyperpartisanship that every single pollster thought the liberals would sit at home on election day, cheering so hard they forgot to vote.


I think you're missing the point. Thus, proving the original point.

smh...
 
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