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(Jezebel)   Long, long ago, Black Friday sales started on a day called "Friday". Ah, those halcyon days of innocence, when retailers cared about employees, elves could pass sex offender background checks, and no one cared about nativity scenes (Not safe for work language)   (jezebel.com) divider line 30
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2012-11-20 10:36:36 AM
5 votes:
Here's a novel idea - DON'T GO SHOPPING ON THANKSGIVING!!!!

But I suspect many people will revere consumerism more than family and have an issue with that suggestion.
2012-11-20 10:45:40 AM
4 votes:
www.publix.com
2012-11-20 11:15:47 AM
3 votes:

Tellingthem: HMS_Blinkin: the_rhino: Its disgusting that stores start their sales on thanksgiving.

Indeed. No one (shoppers I mean) should show up for this crap. Make sure retailers understand that this is not a money-making proposition.

I would also suggest to people that you avoid grocery stores, restaurants, bars, gas stations, convenience stores, etc if you don't like people having to work on holidays.


I do try my best to avoid all of those things. Stay home with family and relax. I realize that some people will always have to work thanksgiving (emergency personnel and other critical positions) but it is possible to keep that to the bare essentials.
2012-11-20 11:13:34 AM
3 votes:
Black Friday would be fun if stores didn't play the limited stock, no rain check game. Even if I get in line two hours before the store opens, most of the better deals are gone by the time I get inside.

Fry's Electronics is one of the worst offenders. They'll have super deal on a TV listed on the front page of their Black Friday flier, but then only have 10 or 20 in stock. It is just a scam to build excitement and get you into the store. They figure that even if the product you want isn't in stock, you'll still pick something up so that you don't consider your time wasted.

And fark the retailers for store opening creep. Double fark the ones that have gone into Thursday night. Triple fark the customers who enable them to do so.
2012-11-20 10:52:01 AM
3 votes:
I've never shopped on black Friday and I never want to.
2012-11-20 10:48:02 AM
3 votes:

The Muthaship: The reason we have sales on Thanksgiving Day is the same reason we are afflicted with idiots like the Kardashians. We apparently want them.


Done in three.

As a hardened vet of many a Black Friday, shiat like this is why I left retail. The main problem is that the brick-and-mortar stores are getting their asses handed to them by online retailers (and Wal-Mart), so they have to "follow the leader" (Wal-Mart), or risk getting left behind. The only reason they're doing this is because they're desperate to make the numbers look good to stay afloat for another few years.
2012-11-20 10:42:22 AM
3 votes:

farm machine: Here's a novel idea - DON'T GO SHOPPING ON THANKSGIVING!!!!

But I suspect many people will revere consumerism more than family and have an issue with that suggestion.


Most people care more about $5 blu rays and a very slight possibility of getting $200 off of an hdtv than the store employees being treated like people.
2012-11-20 11:26:00 AM
2 votes:

DrewCurtisJr: Well then there would be no black friday.


I'm okay with that.
2012-11-20 11:14:39 AM
2 votes:

The Muthaship: The reason we have sales on Thanksgiving Day is the same reason we are afflicted with idiots like the Kardashians. We apparently want them.


That's what it really comes down to. My neighbor last year was all proud of shopping from midnight until 5am so that she'd be guaranteed "deals" on some stuff she wanted. Sorry, my sleep hours have a value, and it is no less than $25/hour. An entire night to save $100 on a TV, followed by a day of completely-awake little kids that won't let you nap?

F*CK THAT NOISE.

JerseyTim: I try not to be judgmental, but if you go to a pre-Black Friday sale on Thanksgiving Day, you're a bad person.


They are the root of the problem. I have a bunch of kids, too, and I also recognize that retail employees have families as well. I shop during awake-time hours. I'm not going to contribute to the free-market-induced madness, no matter how inconsequential my voting dollars are.
2012-11-20 10:54:28 AM
2 votes:
I try not to be judgmental, but if you go to a pre-Black Friday sale on Thanksgiving Day, you're a bad person.
2012-11-20 10:41:48 AM
2 votes:
bobsbadmovieblog.files.wordpress.com
2012-11-20 10:36:19 AM
2 votes:

the_rhino: Its disgusting that stores start their sales on thanksgiving.


Indeed. No one (shoppers I mean) should show up for this crap. Make sure retailers understand that this is not a money-making proposition.
2012-11-20 10:36:17 AM
2 votes:
The reason we have sales on Thanksgiving Day is the same reason we are afflicted with idiots like the Kardashians. We apparently want them.
2012-11-20 01:25:44 PM
1 votes:
davidmixner.typepad.com

Tell me again how Walmart workers have it rough having to work on Thanksgiving?
2012-11-20 12:48:09 PM
1 votes:
There's a flaw with getting older. You also begin to fully understand why the Hippies of the 60's used to rant about not trusting anyone over 30.

Things you used to accept or just shrug off suddenly disclose their hidden meanings and you realize just how seriously you've been misled, misguided, lied to and brainwashed by the media as Big Business warps everything that is good and nice in their never ending quest to take every cent you have.

From made up holidays to the bastardization of traditional ones, Big Business slams you with hours of advertisements to make you buy those over priced, sports idol sponsored shoes, chow down on what is basically shiat in a can and love it and swill gallons of tap water from bottles at 200% profit.

When was the last time you watched normal TV without a car commercial at every break? Can you walk into a restaurant and not find Coke or Pepsi products there? (I recall when counter guys made you a soda from scratch right there in front of you, using syrups you can't find today.)

The first time I saw a hand held video game, I was impressed by the absolute stupidity of the people rushing to buy them. The boxes held wonderful colored adventure scenes, with cartoon figures in various, exquisite detail -- but when you opened the thing, out popped a plastic rectangle with buttons.

It had a screen the size of two postage stamps, often with a colored background already painted on the thing and these strange, ASCII black and white 'shapes' jumped around on command, to tinny, odd noises.

They bore no resemblance to the good looking humanoid figures splashed all over the box -- and people bought them by the ton.

You begin to understand the herding instinct. The saying 'a fool and his money are soon parted' takes on a whole new meaning. You start wondering about the intelligence of the general public.

Then you recall many elder folks claiming that in wars past, we sent our best and brightest into battle to get killed off, leaving the morons and defectives at home to breed. After all, the military had standards, even for those to be used as cannon fodder. You start agreeing with them.

People stomp each other yearly in an effort to greedily grab up some discounted items during a one day sale -- never considering that the stores could lower those prices easily for more than that brief time.

Having worked retail, I used to watch cheap goods come into the store, get dramatically marked up above the normal price for a week (to bait the public) then go on sale for the original normal cost and people pile into the place for the savings.

The company just reeled them in like fish from an over stocked fishing hole.

Hard economic times allowed companies to abuse their minimum wage workers again, making darn sure each knew that if they didn't do the job, there were 50 unemployed folks in line who would. So, take the abuse, work off the clock, forget about benefits and don't even think about overtime or loose your job. Just be glad you're on the books as a 39 hour a week employee.

You'd better be prepared to work on your holidays also or come in 6 hours early to help set up for the Big Sale.

Yeah. When you get older, you suddenly start to realize that all of this commercial kindness is a front designed to fool you into eviscerating your wallet -- and, the scary thing is, no one seems to get it or even care.
2012-11-20 11:38:40 AM
1 votes:

Dinjiin: Black Friday would be fun if stores didn't play the limited stock, no rain check game. Even if I get in line two hours before the store opens, most of the better deals are gone by the time I get inside.

Fry's Electronics is one of the worst offenders. They'll have super deal on a TV listed on the front page of their Black Friday flier, but then only have 10 or 20 in stock. It is just a scam to build excitement and get you into the store. They figure that even if the product you want isn't in stock, you'll still pick something up so that you don't consider your time wasted.

And fark the retailers for store opening creep. Double fark the ones that have gone into Thursday night. Triple fark the customers who enable them to do so.


It's all about being ahead of everyone else. First it was Black Friday, now we have pre-Black Friday. How long before we have Orange Thursday or Red Wednesday? Or all the stores opening the Wednesday before Thanksgiving and staying open around the clock until Sunday night? 

Yes - fark them.
2012-11-20 11:36:42 AM
1 votes:
It's Economics 101: Supply and Demand. Blame the idiots that line for blocks, and sometimes literally kill each other, to be the first ones in the store.

Personally I'll wait for next years pre-Black Friday sales that will start on Wednesday.
2012-11-20 11:11:35 AM
1 votes:

the_rhino: Its disgusting that stores start their sales on thanksgiving.


Back in the 90s, I worked at a Kmart store. I can't tell you how many times a day I would have people say to me, "It's a real shame you have to work on Thanksgiving!" Yeah, go home and they won't open on Thursday.

/We won't even talk about the preacher who used to come in on Sundays to give us sermons about working on Sunday, while he was shopping...
2012-11-20 11:04:35 AM
1 votes:

JerseyTim: I try not to be judgmental, but if you go to a pre-Black Friday sale on Thanksgiving Day, you're a bad person.


Truer words have never been written.

Not to mention the fact that they could be holding a Black Friday sale on my brother's front lawn and I still wouldn't be able (or want) to get off the couch on Thanksgiving Night. That night is for eating, drinking with your family and falling asleep on the couch during the football games.
2012-11-20 10:53:13 AM
1 votes:

gingerjet: the_rhino: Its disgusting that stores start their sales on thanksgiving.

Who the fark cares? Christmas is an invention of marketers. Don't get all false outraged when they learn new ways to continue to milk consumers over something they invented.

/not buying a damn thing this Christmas


Christmas as we know it? Yes, it's a marketing ploy, but Christmas was actually a Christian holiday to overlook the pagan festivities those damn peasants were celebrating.

Valentine's Day is a Job Creator's holiday through and through.
2012-11-20 10:46:53 AM
1 votes:
art.penny-arcade.com
2012-11-20 10:45:16 AM
1 votes:
Subby sounds old.

/Getting off your lawn now.
//No way in Hell am I going shopping on Thanksgiving Day.
///Sleeping off the feast is tiring.
2012-11-20 10:45:16 AM
1 votes:
Don't shop on Thanksgiving.

The stores will open, and if nobody shows up, they'll get the message, and then next year they won't open on Thursday.
2012-11-20 10:43:59 AM
1 votes:

HMS_Blinkin: the_rhino: Its disgusting that stores start their sales on thanksgiving.

Indeed. No one (shoppers I mean) should show up for this crap. Make sure retailers understand that this is not a money-making proposition.


I would also suggest to people that you avoid grocery stores, restaurants, bars, gas stations, convenience stores, etc if you don't like people having to work on holidays.
2012-11-20 10:43:23 AM
1 votes:
Black Friday sucks. Cyber Monday however, is something I fully support.
2012-11-20 10:42:36 AM
1 votes:
I must confess: I have been looking forward to not going out shopping this Thanksgiving, or the Friday after.
2012-11-20 10:42:26 AM
1 votes:
If only we could somehow invent a form of currency that quickly leaves the hands of those people who are most inclined to spend it... oh wait, we have...
2012-11-20 10:41:31 AM
1 votes:

farm machine: Here's a novel idea - DON'T GO SHOPPING ON THANKSGIVING!!!!

But I suspect many people will revere consumerism more than family and have an issue with that suggestion.


I don't shop during Thanksgiving. Then again, Thanksgiving is not a holiday here :/.
2012-11-20 10:34:50 AM
1 votes:

the_rhino: Its disgusting that stores start their sales on thanksgiving.


Well since they know it's futile to try to increase aggregate total holiday spend, they just have to get to your wallet before the other retailers.
2012-11-20 10:33:02 AM
1 votes:
Its disgusting that stores start their sales on thanksgiving.
 
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