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(The Raw Story)   Now that it's become clear that Obama will support Israel, it's time for Fox News to take the opposite side. Obvious tag is getting really tired   (rawstory.com) divider line 61
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2012-11-20 09:48:25 AM
Kilmeade blinked, tilted his head and offered a very confused look, but moved on by suggesting that Syria and Iran were benefiting from Israel's conflict with Hamas.

Was this a real broadcast or another SNL spoof? It's so hard to tell.

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2012-11-20 10:19:54 AM
Scheuer does his own thing. He has been critical of our previous wars as well (though I think he's a moderate conservative). I doubt that was planned. Neither Fox nor any other mainstream cable channel will willfully shift from anything but a pro-Israel position.
 
2012-11-20 10:55:02 AM

coco ebert: Scheuer does his own thing. He has been critical of our previous wars as well (though I think he's a moderate conservative). I doubt that was planned. Neither Fox nor any other mainstream cable channel will willfully shift from anything but a pro-Israel position.


And he didn't single out Israel on the most eyebrow raising part. "No country has a right to exist."

Certainly doesn't jive with the idea of "exceptionalism", but it doesn't say Israel alone has no inherent right to existence.
 
2012-11-20 11:10:29 AM
I can't recall if it was Hugo Chavez or Ahmenijiad [sic], but I recall Fox & Friends snickering and agreeing when one of them called the President of the United States an imbecile.

One guess as to whether this took place before or after January 20th, 2009.
 
2012-11-20 11:19:06 AM
Kilmeade blinked, tilted his head and offered a very confused look

They should stick to stories about 8 year old girls running lemonade stands.
 
2012-11-20 11:28:13 AM

vernonFL: Kilmeade blinked, tilted his head and offered a very confused look

They should stick to stories about 8 year old girls running lemonade stands.


the girls who "built" it themselves. That was pure win.
 
2012-11-20 12:25:52 PM
So you just had to make up some bullshiat lie in order to attack Fox News?

Pretty weak.
 
2012-11-20 12:29:29 PM
reads like that guy was trying to be too nuanced for fox news not really that he was trying to move some narrative.
 
2012-11-20 12:32:46 PM

Tatsuma: So you just had to make up some bullshiat lie in order to attack Fox News?

Pretty weak.


A direct quote is a bullshiat lie? Talk about weak.
 
2012-11-20 12:32:50 PM
"The Israelis have an undeniable right to defend themselves, they don't have any right to exist. No country has a right to exist."

Regardless of where you stand on the Isreal/Palestinian problem, that is some grade-A derp right there.
 
2012-11-20 12:33:25 PM

Diogenes: Kilmeade blinked, tilted his head and offered a very confused look, but moved on by suggesting that Syria and Iran were benefiting from Israel's conflict with Hamas.


No one is talking about the fighting in Syria now nor are they talking about nukes in Iran so in that sense, yes, they do benefit.
 
Ehh
2012-11-20 12:35:19 PM
The president's support of Israel shows just how sneaky a seekrit muslin he is!
 
2012-11-20 12:37:52 PM

Tatsuma: So you just had to make up some bullshiat lie in order to attack Fox News?

Pretty weak.


genehoyas.com
Truly pilgrim, this man is the King of the Jews.
 
2012-11-20 12:38:15 PM
I've long joked (probably even right here on Fark) that the Democrats should take extreme right positions to trick the Republicans into voting for left-wing bills. Reverse psychology works on people with the mentality of toddlers.
 
2012-11-20 12:39:22 PM

Pincy: "The Israelis have an undeniable right to defend themselves, they don't have any right to exist. No country has a right to exist."

Regardless of where you stand on the Isreal/Palestinian problem, that is some grade-A derp right there.


Yeah I'm trying to parse where he's coming from exactly and just getting confused. Does he not believe that rights exist? Or only some rights? Or is it might makes right(s)?
 
Bf+
2012-11-20 12:40:20 PM

Tatsuma: Pretty weak.


...says Tatsuma.
 
2012-11-20 12:41:07 PM
Hypothetical W.H. statement: In light if the higher than average suicide rate during the Holiday season, the Obamas wish you to choose life, and if you know someone in trouble, get them to help.

Fox's natural response: The Obamas dont just want you to live healthier, but also LONGER so you can keep paying TAXES. They are pandering to the pro life movement while doing nothing to fight abortion. Dont let them dictate what you do with your life! Please, if youd like to display your opposition to Obama's "Death Moratorium,"I send photos of your corpse to Fox & Friends.
P.S. WAR ON CHRISTMAS!
 
2012-11-20 12:42:32 PM

Tatsuma: So you just had to make up some bullshiat lie in order to attack Fox News?

Pretty weak.


So you're going with "undisguised lying and trolling" now.
 
2012-11-20 12:43:52 PM
He's right, Israel will tell you the same thing about the Palestinians.
 
2012-11-20 12:44:40 PM

Tatsuma: So you just had to make up some bullshiat lie in order to attack Fox News?

Pretty weak.


Ohhhh goody. He's back.
 
2012-11-20 12:44:45 PM
They're going for the anti-semite vote early I see.
 
2012-11-20 12:47:33 PM

LeroyBourne: They're going for the anti-semite vote early I see.


Don't be afraid, these men are cowards, Donny.
 
2012-11-20 12:50:12 PM
What the fark is on the back of Michael Scheuer's head in that video? It looks like it wants to be a yarmulke, but it comes out looking like a camel hump.
 
2012-11-20 12:50:47 PM
Because it doesn't fit their intentioned narrative. Obama strongly supports Israel and even funds them. That doesn't fit into their mold of "Obama is a secret Muslim and therefore hates Israel."
 
2012-11-20 12:51:34 PM

DarwiOdrade: A direct quote is a bullshiat lie? Talk about weak.


It's not 'Fox News' taking the opposite side, it's one guy saying that 'no country has the right to exist' because it's simply not a right that actually exists.


It's not an attack on Israel, and it's not Fox News taking the opposite opinion of Obama

Subby is retarded, or a retarded partisan.
 
2012-11-20 12:51:58 PM

toomuchwhargarbl: Pincy: "The Israelis have an undeniable right to defend themselves, they don't have any right to exist. No country has a right to exist."

Regardless of where you stand on the Isreal/Palestinian problem, that is some grade-A derp right there.

Yeah I'm trying to parse where he's coming from exactly and just getting confused. Does he not believe that rights exist? Or only some rights? Or is it might makes right(s)?


That's what I got out of it. "You have no rights but what you can seize and hold for yourself."
 
2012-11-20 12:52:35 PM
In all seriousness, though, this isn't really that surprising. Conservatives generally believe in power more than rights. (Or to be fancier about it, the rights of power rather than the power of rights.)
 
2012-11-20 12:53:23 PM
Maybe we need Israeli-type security at airports to create even more jobs.

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2012-11-20 12:54:14 PM
Don't tell Fox News that Israel was founded by Socialists and that they have universal healthcare and that their universal healthcare pays for abortions.
 
2012-11-20 12:56:10 PM

Tatsuma: DarwiOdrade: A direct quote is a bullshiat lie? Talk about weak.

It's not 'Fox News' taking the opposite side, it's one guy saying that 'no country has the right to exist' because it's simply not a right that actually exists.


It's not an attack on Israel, and it's not Fox News taking the opposite opinion of Obama

Subby is retarded, or a retarded partisan.


A guy who is paid to be a regular contributor to Fox News.

Wait a minute. Unless you seriously believe that Fox News doesn't give their regular on air contributors their talking points?
 
2012-11-20 12:57:19 PM

WizardofToast: Because it doesn't fit their intentioned narrative. Obama strongly supports Israel and even funds them. That doesn't fit into their mold of "Obama is a secret Muslim and therefore hates Israel."


Try: "Obama is a secret muslim and wants Isreal to provoke Iran into nuking Bethlehem, thereby asserting Islamic dominance and ruining America's position as leader of the free world."

That still fits the existing narrative. If that's too derpy for you, just call it "pandering to a Jewish minority vote."
 
2012-11-20 12:59:09 PM
Obama has to be a good boy and capitulate to Israel. Why? Because Israel is completely justified and Hamas deserves a good beatdown. Hell, they're begging for a beatdown. Funny how Fark libs rip on Christians and Jews, yet ignore the horrible human rights violations of the muslims. Class envy knows no bounds in their world.
 
2012-11-20 12:59:34 PM

Tatsuma: So you just had to make up some bullshiat lie in order to attack Fox News?

Pretty weak.


Why does it matter. Do you actually get this crappy channel in Israel?

Why don't you just watch Sky News instead. It's like Fox News except the news hosts actually sound intelligent.
 
2012-11-20 12:59:48 PM

Tatsuma: So you just had to make up some bullshiat lie in order to attack Fox News?

Pretty weak.


"opposite" is the wrong choice of words. However, because Obama is backing Israel on this, it seems Fox is having difficulty exploring angles to this story that don't fit their traditional narrative.
 
2012-11-20 01:00:36 PM

Friction8r: Obama has to be a good boy and capitulate to Israel. Why? Because Israel is completely justified and Hamas deserves a good beatdown. Hell, they're begging for a beatdown. Funny how Fark libs rip on Christians and Jews, yet ignore the horrible human rights violations of the muslims. Class envy knows no bounds in their world.


Wait...how is any of this class envy?

You sure do suck at this trolling game. Might as well go back to stamp collecting.
 
2012-11-20 01:01:24 PM

Friction8r: Funny how Fark libs rip on Christians and Jews, yet ignore the horrible human rights violations of the muslims. Class envy knows no bounds in their world.


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2012-11-20 01:03:10 PM

Friction8r: Obama has to be a good boy and capitulate to Israel. Why? Because Israel is completely justified and Hamas deserves a good beatdown. Hell, they're begging for a beatdown. Funny how Fark libs rip on Christians and Jews, yet ignore the horrible human rights violations of the muslims. Class envy knows no bounds in their world.


I seem to recall that a certain presidential candidate had a biatchin' smirk back in September at the human rights violations of a few muslims.
 
2012-11-20 01:08:29 PM

Tatsuma: DarwiOdrade: A direct quote is a bullshiat lie? Talk about weak.

It's not 'Fox News' taking the opposite side, it's one guy saying that 'no country has the right to exist' because it's simply not a right that actually exists.


It's not an attack on Israel, and it's not Fox News taking the opposite opinion of Obama

Subby is retarded, or a retarded partisan.


Both, subby is actually Fox News.
 
2012-11-20 01:12:30 PM

Mrtraveler01: Friction8r: Obama has to be a good boy and capitulate to Israel. Why? Because Israel is completely justified and Hamas deserves a good beatdown. Hell, they're begging for a beatdown. Funny how Fark libs rip on Christians and Jews, yet ignore the horrible human rights violations of the muslims. Class envy knows no bounds in their world.

Wait...how is any of this class envy?

You sure do suck at this trolling game. Might as well go back to stamp collecting.


Look at the per capita income of the Israelis versus their "neighbors." They work harder and are far more successful. Those traits are also embodied in conservatives. Liberals HATE that. Like I said...class envy.

/QED
/Go ahead...throw rocks.
 
2012-11-20 01:18:10 PM

Friction8r: Mrtraveler01: Friction8r: Obama has to be a good boy and capitulate to Israel. Why? Because Israel is completely justified and Hamas deserves a good beatdown. Hell, they're begging for a beatdown. Funny how Fark libs rip on Christians and Jews, yet ignore the horrible human rights violations of the muslims. Class envy knows no bounds in their world.

Wait...how is any of this class envy?

You sure do suck at this trolling game. Might as well go back to stamp collecting.

Look at the per capita income of the Israelis versus their "neighbors." They work harder and are far more successful. Those traits are also embodied in conservatives. Liberals HATE that. Like I said...class envy.

/QED
/Go ahead...throw rocks.


Wow, that is an even more pathetic troll attempt than the last comment.
 
2012-11-20 01:18:27 PM

Friction8r: They work harder and are far more successful. Those traits are also embodied in conservatives.


If that was the case, then the poorest counties here in MO (Ozarks and Bootheel) wouldn't be ones that also vote Republican.
 
2012-11-20 01:19:33 PM
Ahh Rupert Murdoch

"Why is Jewish owned press so consistently anti-Israel in every crisis?" he wrote.

Why are the Jews so anti-semitic.
 
2012-11-20 01:52:27 PM

sweetmelissa31: Ahh Rupert Murdoch

"Why is Jewish owned press so consistently anti-Israel in every crisis?" he wrote.

Why are the Jews so anti-semitic.


Since when does any Jewish person have a news media empire larger than Murdoch's?
 
2012-11-20 02:06:25 PM
Hey Tats, shouldn't you be manning an Iron Dome battery somewhere? Or did you get out of service by playing the chicken-shiat Orthodox card?
 
2012-11-20 02:06:54 PM

DarwiOdrade: Tatsuma: So you just had to make up some bullshiat lie in order to attack Fox News?

Pretty weak.

A direct quote is a bullshiat lie? Talk about weak.


There is no low "Tatsuma" will not stoop to in his defense of Israel.
 
2012-11-20 02:12:27 PM

mrshowrules: Since when does any Jewish person have a news media empire larger than Murdoch's?


Obviously, you have never had dinner with my mother in her lovely Palm Beach home or met any of her canasta friends.
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So Mr.Smarty-phone Pants, You know if that thing is so smart you could use it to call your mother sometimes. Where are you going? I've got all this food. Just eat a little bissel.
 
2012-11-20 02:18:27 PM
Michael Scheuer is not Fox News.
 
2012-11-20 02:20:04 PM

mrshowrules: sweetmelissa31: Ahh Rupert Murdoch

"Why is Jewish owned press so consistently anti-Israel in every crisis?" he wrote.

Why are the Jews so anti-semitic.

Since when does any Jewish person have a news media empire larger than Murdoch's?


Soros owns the US government.
 
2012-11-20 02:21:30 PM

Dwight_Yeast: There is no low "Tatsuma" will not stoop to in his defense of Israel.


well, he could actually join the IDF, but y'know, that might cut into his trolling time here.
 
2012-11-20 02:31:01 PM

mrshowrules: Since when does any Jewish person have a news media empire larger than Murdoch's?


I post pretty frequently on Fark, so I guess he has a point.
 
2012-11-20 02:43:05 PM
You guys are as disgusting and despicable as fox news. You know Damn well if Romney had won, the left in general would be jumping all over Romney. I heard people worry if Romney won, he would be "letting Israel do whatever they want". Act like goddamn adults and get some intellectual honesty. Until you can manage that, you are the same sort of douchebags one might find on fox news.
 
2012-11-20 03:02:31 PM

danwinkler: You guys are as disgusting and despicable as fox news. You know Damn well if Romney had won, the left in general would be jumping all over Romney. I heard people worry if Romney won, he would be "letting Israel do whatever they want". Act like goddamn adults and get some intellectual honesty. Until you can manage that, you are the same sort of douchebags one might find on fox news.


Thinking's hard.
 
Bf+
2012-11-20 03:13:26 PM

danwinkler: You guys are as disgusting and despicable as fox news. You know Damn well if Romney had won, the left in general would be jumping all over Romney. I heard people worry if Romney won, he would be "letting Israel do whatever they want". Act like goddamn adults and get some intellectual honesty. Until you can manage that, you are the same sort of douchebags one might find on fox news.


pro·jec·tion \prə-ˈjek-shən\ n.
 
2012-11-20 03:23:16 PM

Bf+: danwinkler: You guys are as disgusting and despicable as fox news. You know Damn well if Romney had won, the left in general would be jumping all over Romney. I heard people worry if Romney won, he would be "letting Israel do whatever they want". Act like goddamn adults and get some intellectual honesty. Until you can manage that, you are the same sort of douchebags one might find on fox news.

pro·jec·tion \prə-ˈjek-shən\ n.


Seriously. I see liberals, who were anti-war during the Bush years, support drone strikes. I see many neocons against those same drone strikes, when they would have loved them 5 years ago. I see you people whine that Romney would capitulate to Israel, but support Obama when he does it, and the morons at fox news condemn him for it. You all need to take your heads out of your asses
 
2012-11-20 03:39:16 PM

danwinkler: Bf+: danwinkler: You guys are as disgusting and despicable as fox news. You know Damn well if Romney had won, the left in general would be jumping all over Romney. I heard people worry if Romney won, he would be "letting Israel do whatever they want". Act like goddamn adults and get some intellectual honesty. Until you can manage that, you are the same sort of douchebags one might find on fox news.

pro·jec·tion \prə-ˈjek-shən\ n.

Seriously. I see liberals, who were anti-war during the Bush years, support drone strikes. I see many neocons against those same drone strikes, when they would have loved them 5 years ago. I see you people whine that Romney would capitulate to Israel, but support Obama when he does it, and the morons at fox news condemn him for it. You all need to take your heads out of your asses


so take heart Republicans, you'll be told not to like it since it's Obama, but what you'll see over the next 4 years is pretty much what would have happened if Romney had been elected.
 
2012-11-20 03:55:38 PM

devilEther: danwinkler: Bf+: danwinkler: You guys are as disgusting and despicable as fox news. You know Damn well if Romney had won, the left in general would be jumping all over Romney. I heard people worry if Romney won, he would be "letting Israel do whatever they want". Act like goddamn adults and get some intellectual honesty. Until you can manage that, you are the same sort of douchebags one might find on fox news.

pro·jec·tion \prə-ˈjek-shən\ n.

Seriously. I see liberals, who were anti-war during the Bush years, support drone strikes. I see many neocons against those same drone strikes, when they would have loved them 5 years ago. I see you people whine that Romney would capitulate to Israel, but support Obama when he does it, and the morons at fox news condemn him for it. You all need to take your heads out of your asses

so take heart Republicans, you'll be told not to like it since it's Obama, but what you'll see over the next 4 years is pretty much what would have happened if Romney had been elected.


That's a GOOD thing. Glad to see that Obama is defying the surrender monkey, defense-slashing mentality of naive libs. Also glad to see that Obama was pragmatic enough, after learning how foreign policy REALLY works, to adhere to many of Bush's past policy decisions. And hey libs - Gitmo is still open! HaaHaa! You know THAT bakes your noodle.
 
2012-11-20 04:35:41 PM
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FTFA: Over the weekend, Fox News CEO Rupert Murdoch lashed out at what he called the "Jewish owned press" for its coverage of the recent fighting. "Why is Jewish owned press so consistently anti-Israel in every crisis?" he wrote.
 
2012-11-20 04:45:34 PM

Friction8r:

/QED
/Go ahead...throw rocks.


Rocks? Pfft, lack of imagination.

I'm throwing Romneys.

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-20 05:03:18 PM

danwinkler: Bf+: danwinkler: You guys are as disgusting and despicable as fox news. You know Damn well if Romney had won, the left in general would be jumping all over Romney. I heard people worry if Romney won, he would be "letting Israel do whatever they want". Act like goddamn adults and get some intellectual honesty. Until you can manage that, you are the same sort of douchebags one might find on fox news.

pro·jec·tion \prə-ˈjek-shən\ n.

Seriously. I see liberals, who were anti-war during the Bush years, support drone strikes. I see many neocons against those same drone strikes, when they would have loved them 5 years ago. I see you people whine that Romney would capitulate to Israel, but support Obama when he does it, and the morons at fox news condemn him for it. You all need to take your heads out of your asses


Gosh.

I wonder why.

Could it be because some guy is National Command Authoritying while blah and Kenyan?
 
2012-11-20 06:22:55 PM
Yeah, with "friends" like Barry, does Israel even need any enemies?

How dare he do all those anti-Israeli things I've read about from honest, trust-worthy websites like American Thinker. we should have elected a real leader, who would have done the exact opposite of those things.

//who is too busy blaming everyone but himself for his defeat...
 
2012-11-20 11:46:39 PM

toomuchwhargarbl: Pincy: "The Israelis have an undeniable right to defend themselves, they don't have any right to exist. No country has a right to exist."

Regardless of where you stand on the Isreal/Palestinian problem, that is some grade-A derp right there.

Yeah I'm trying to parse where he's coming from exactly and just getting confused. Does he not believe that rights exist? Or only some rights? Or is it might makes right(s)?


Countries don't have rights, people do. I wonder how he feel about corporations, though.

/And as Carlin said, no one actually has rights, they have privileges.
 
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