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(The New York Times)   How would you describe a large inflatable device being inserted into a subway tunnel to block floodwaters? The NYT is going with "filling in a giant concrete and steel cannoli"   (nytimes.com) divider line 43
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2012-11-20 10:55:58 AM
Your mom's IUD?
 
2012-11-20 10:57:44 AM
Damn, that's one helluva cannoli.
 
2012-11-20 10:57:52 AM
something something your mom something something
 
2012-11-20 10:58:19 AM
Leave the N train. Take the cannoli.
 
2012-11-20 11:02:56 AM
londontips.ca

Approves
 
2012-11-20 11:03:11 AM
Of course this completely misses the problem that there are thousands of other entry points for water to get into the subway than just at the tunnel opening.
 
2012-11-20 11:04:22 AM
Are the designers of these, also working on plugs for the large grate covered air holes at street level that will also let water in?
 
2012-11-20 11:04:33 AM
They talk about filling it with air, but filling it with water would withstand the pressure much better methinks.
 
2012-11-20 11:05:45 AM
This city needs an enema?
 
2012-11-20 11:05:45 AM

Crewmannumber6: Your mom's IUD?


i49.tinypic.com

You've never heard of the Aluminum Dalkon?
 
2012-11-20 11:06:11 AM
Are we trying to keep the water out or in?

img696.imageshack.us
 
2012-11-20 11:06:17 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-20 11:07:56 AM
Subwayoplasty?
 
2012-11-20 11:08:13 AM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-11-20 11:08:47 AM

A Terrible Human: [i.imgur.com image 580x458]


You mean the small one, for her ass?
 
2012-11-20 11:09:02 AM

manimal2878: This city needs an enema?


joannapary.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-11-20 11:11:25 AM
Who'd want the job of going in to inspect it after an actual deployment? That's like inspecting the diaper of your newborn. You just know that little colon is going to cut loose at any second.
 
2012-11-20 11:12:49 AM
Uh ... wouldn't a door work just as well?
 
2012-11-20 11:13:05 AM
I would describe it as one hell of a Saturday night.
 
2012-11-20 11:13:10 AM
I was thinking it was one of those large inflatable plugs i've seen in some porn...but a Tunnel entrance, you say?
 
2012-11-20 11:13:17 AM
 
2012-11-20 11:13:52 AM
So it's a robot Chris Christie?
 
2012-11-20 11:16:02 AM
There's a "thumb in the dyke" joke here somewhere.
 
2012-11-20 11:19:15 AM
First thought - good idea if it works.

Second thought - <Scottish> Eh, it's not so much a balloon, as a...blancmange </Scottish>

Third thought - 

pics.imcdb.org
 
2012-11-20 11:21:09 AM
Sounds like a job for former Twinkie creme injectors.
 
2012-11-20 11:21:29 AM
Tuesday?...
 
2012-11-20 11:22:41 AM

carrion_luggage: Leave the N train. Take the cannoli.


cdn.instructables.com
 
2012-11-20 11:23:10 AM
I'm gonna go with filthy.
 
2012-11-20 11:33:17 AM
During the coverage of Sandy, I was thinking that they could improvise plugs out of Pykrete if there was a source of liquid N2 (Liquid Air would be safer), sawdust (or shredded paper) and water.

You would use something like a attic insulation blower to put down sawdust or shredded paper. Spray it with chilled water, then freeze it with a spray liquid air. Build it up in layers until it had enough volume to hold through the storm surge. (if you were using liquid N2, you'd better provide O2 for your workers)

Of course after the storm you have to drill vents into it to get it to thaw before you started hauling out buckets of soggy sawdust, so its not exactly a easy un-install
 
2012-11-20 11:50:03 AM

otaku69: Are the designers of these, also working on plugs for the large grate covered air holes at street level that will also let water in?


That's what I was wondering when I read about these ideas. I was in NYC a couple of years ago and I remember walking down the street (I think Broadway) and looking down into the grate I was walking over and realizing "hey that's the subway". Plugging every one of those, plus every station entrance plus the actual tunnels would seem impossible. Plus even then how do you stop backflow from things like the actual drains.
 
2012-11-20 11:53:17 AM
I henceforth name it: the Big Underground Torrent Taming Plug, or, the BUTT-Plug.
 
2012-11-20 11:53:28 AM
Came for the Godfather reference. Left satisfied.
 
2012-11-20 11:56:10 AM

probesport: manimal2878: This city needs an enema?

[joannapary.files.wordpress.com image 527x336]


Quote Fail! Proper quote is "This TOWN needs an enema!"
 
2012-11-20 11:58:08 AM

Arkanaut: Damn, that's one helluva cannoli.


You should've seen the gun.
 
2012-11-20 11:58:46 AM
Another use for a large inflatable thingie:

www.retroweb.com
 
2012-11-20 11:59:34 AM

boyvoyeur: Are we trying to keep the water out or in?

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Someone should have totally dumped red food coloring in that water.
 
2012-11-20 12:05:58 PM

mechgreg: otaku69: Are the designers of these, also working on plugs for the large grate covered air holes at street level that will also let water in?

That's what I was wondering when I read about these ideas. I was in NYC a couple of years ago and I remember walking down the street (I think Broadway) and looking down into the grate I was walking over and realizing "hey that's the subway". Plugging every one of those, plus every station entrance plus the actual tunnels would seem impossible. Plus even then how do you stop backflow from things like the actual drains.


That was the biggest problem by us with the storm surge. The water from the river never made it to us. But it did make it to the sewer outlets at high tide.

So everything was hunky dorey until a little after 6. No water around our building. We were down in the garage making sure everything was cool. Then, out of nowhere, the storm drains all pop open and water starts pouring in. Literally 15 minutes later my car was actually floating away on a 5 foot deep river of shiat.
 
2012-11-20 12:16:08 PM

a61sun: probesport: manimal2878: This city needs an enema?

[joannapary.files.wordpress.com image 527x336]

Quote Fail! Proper quote is "This TOWN needs an enema!"


Quote?
 
2012-11-20 12:25:33 PM

mechgreg: otaku69: Are the designers of these, also working on plugs for the large grate covered air holes at street level that will also let water in?

That's what I was wondering when I read about these ideas. I was in NYC a couple of years ago and I remember walking down the street (I think Broadway) and looking down into the grate I was walking over and realizing "hey that's the subway". Plugging every one of those, plus every station entrance plus the actual tunnels would seem impossible. Plus even then how do you stop backflow from things like the actual drains.


From TA: . "And while a plug at either end of an underwater tube would protect against a tunnel breach, Hurricane Sandy showed that flooding can occur in many other ways - through ventilation grates and station entrances, for example. So in a system like New York's, there may be other strategic places to install plugs.

'The positioning of the plug and potential sources of leakage all come into play in considering how to use these things,' Dr. Fortune said."

I think the idea is that if you seal off the large source of water (the main tunnel) and you can keep the rest of the systems intact (lighting, electrical [not the third rail] and pumps), then you can pump out whatever gets in through other routes.

Personally, I think the major issues (assuming they get the technical details of the devices worked out) are timing and the inevitable second-guessing. "Well, we thought this storm was going to be as bad as Sandy, but we were off by a few miles and the height of the surge. So we basically shut off the subways and trains for six days no good reason. Our bad."

Or, "We thought we had 36 hours, but the storm sped up and we only had 12, so our inflatable plugs were useless. Our bad."
 
2012-11-20 12:45:43 PM

RumsfeldsReplacement: [londontips.ca image 680x400]

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I see what you did there!
 
2012-11-20 01:12:45 PM
The Nadia Suleman insertion device?

/The Amazing Ty stopper?
//The Kinky Jo stopper?
 
2012-11-20 03:53:28 PM
A plug.
 
2012-11-20 06:43:22 PM
Right, yeah, sure...whatever the dude says

(I think the dude might be compensating) 
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