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(Vulture)   Ang Lee regret Hulk. "My problem is that I took the whole thing too seriously. I should have had more fun with it, instead of all the psychodrama." Hulk happy with daddy now, Hulk not regret Ang Lee   (vulture.com) divider line 71
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2012-11-20 01:24:48 PM
It wasn't all bad until the last 30 minutes and the final showdown. I never understood that whole bit. Why would you bother putting these two together, regardless of having a giant Evapinator. Especially since one of the two turns into a giant rage monster under emotional stress and he's sitting across from someone that is determined to push all of his buttons. What would the military even have to gain by doing that?

Completely apart from the psychodrama and daddy issues in the story, that was the most glaring issue that made me say "WTF is this shiat?!?!"
 
2012-11-20 01:33:40 PM
I think this was the only movie I saw in a theater that I actually fell asleep in the middle of the movie.
 
2012-11-20 01:39:00 PM

Slaxl: MmmmBacon: He should feel bad, that movie was awful!

Don't make him Ang Lee, you wouldn't like him when he's Ang Lee.


So bad its genius. ( slow clap )
 
2012-11-20 02:27:30 PM

CygnusDarius: Am I the only farker that actually like The Hulk movie? It was good, c'mon!.


Nope, I liked it too. I thought it was a failure, but it was the kind of failure that is good - it tried to do something different. To take a rather one-dimensional comic book character and turn him into something three dimensional. I've got issues with how he did it, but I'll take Ang Lee trying to give us an adult/mature/deep Hulk movie over the craptastic Green Lantern type movie.

/Also, Jennifer Connelly as Betty Ross, Sorry to Liv Tyler fans, but Jennifer Connelly is light years above Liv Tyler in every category that matters.
//Would be so happy if Jennifer Connelly starred in a She-Hulk movie.
 
2012-11-20 02:29:06 PM

mongbiohazard: Guess I'm in the minority here, but I thought Ang Lee's Hulk movie was fantastic. The character was explored better than any time before or since, and the drama between he characters was truly touching.


Exactly. Banner's angst was revealed beautifully, it was a nice distillation of decades of the soul-searching explored in the comics. If you didn't know a lot of the Hulk's history then Lee's movie was great groundwork that set the storyline for the subsequent movies.

Friends of mine were basically looking for lots of "Hulk Smash!" and were disappointed, while I would have liked to see a better villain I thought the trade-off was worth it.

Plus it was hilarious to watch all the moms who'd brought their young children have to jump up and leave with their kids when it got too intense.

That I do not remember, but I went to a late show and was therefore likely spared the wailing :)
 
2012-11-20 02:38:12 PM
Ang Lee's Hulk was good except for the fact that it distilled 20 years of comics in to a 2hr movie. There was no real room for progression except MAYBE towards a bastardized RULK v HULK movie.

And there was no Red Hulk in the comics as of yet.

Too many daddy issues and it was unnecessary
 
2012-11-20 02:43:49 PM

Techhell: CygnusDarius: Am I the only farker that actually like The Hulk movie? It was good, c'mon!.

Nope, I liked it too. I thought it was a failure, but it was the kind of failure that is good - it tried to do something different. To take a rather one-dimensional comic book character and turn him into something three dimensional. I've got issues with how he did it, but I'll take Ang Lee trying to give us an adult/mature/deep Hulk movie over the craptastic Green Lantern type movie.

/Also, Jennifer Connelly as Betty Ross, Sorry to Liv Tyler fans, but Jennifer Connelly is light years above Liv Tyler in every category that matters.
//Would be so happy if Jennifer Connelly starred in a She-Hulk movie.


This :D. I also have to agree with the Connelly as a better actress than Liv.
 
2012-11-20 02:47:10 PM
The movie had a lot of great things going - excellent casting, clever comic panels, decent action scenes... It ultimately sucked because it moved so sloooow. Expositions took way too long. The first hour was a lot of big nothings. I would love it if Ang Lee could give it another crack, but focus on better plot pacing and a better villain.
 
2012-11-20 02:49:52 PM

DMZ DEATH: Slaxl: MmmmBacon: He should feel bad, that movie was awful!

Don't make him Ang Lee, you wouldn't like him when he's Ang Lee.

So bad its genius. ( slow clap )


I don't want to be *that guy*, but someone always pops in to make that same joke in an Ang Lee/Hulk thread. But it never gets old.
 
2012-11-20 02:49:59 PM

SinisterDexter: CygnusDarius: Am I the only farker that actually like The Hulk movie? It was good, c'mon!.

It looks like there's a few of us here. I haven't seen it since release, but I liked it at the time and don't get all the hate. But I'm not an obsessive comic book fan. I liked the Norton movie, too, but it felt redundant and unnecessary in the same way the new Spider-Man movie feels redundant and unnecessary.


The Norton film was good, and it felt like they wanted to return to the 'action packed Hulk', I liked the first one better because it was an honest attempt to give Hulk a measure of complexity. I mean, he's human (ish) after all.

Also, the ending was badass.
 
2012-11-20 03:03:18 PM
I also kinda liked Ang Lee's Hulk movie. I do agree it took it a bit too seriously, but sometimes that can be a good thing. I don't want every movie to be a popcorn movie.
 
2012-11-20 03:33:07 PM
Problems with the Ang Lee Hulk movie:

1. Hulk not angsty! Hulk is the strongest one there is! Why Ang-man make Hulk into crybaby?
2. Jennifer girl not naked. Hulk like naked!
3. Stupid not-dad-man is bothering Hulk. Go away stupid not-dad-man!
4. Puny Banner not look so puny. What is Hulk seeing here? Banner is wimp, not hunk!
5. Hulk dogs stupid. Whole movie stupid. Leave Hulk alone!
 
2012-11-20 06:12:32 PM

legion_of_doo: SineSwiper: You give the director of a Chinese love story to direct Hulk, and he turns it into a love story?

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Which Chinese Love Story?

The Ice Storm? Ride with the Devil? Sense & Sensibility? And those would be prior to The Hulk.

Oh, he Chinaman. Only make Chinaman movie. I see. So solly.


Uh, Pushing Hands? Wedding Banquet? Eat, Drink, Man,Woman? All pretty much Chinese love stories.
 
2012-11-20 06:22:20 PM

XMark: I also kinda liked Ang Lee's Hulk movie. I do agree it took it a bit too seriously, but sometimes that can be a good thing. I don't want every movie to be a popcorn movie.


Yeah, that poor movie groaned under the weight of it's seriousness. Ang Lee seemed to think he was creating the basis for a movie franchise like the Donner Superman. I respect what he tried to do, but it became dull. At any rate, to me, the Hulk's backstory is the LEAST interesting thing about him. Having him get hit by the gamma bomb is just a way to propel the story of how to wrestle with powers on the level of Superman that you get only when you're ready to wreck everything in sight against your will. It's the definitive modern take on the werewolf story.

I feel faked out because the trailer for it indicated more of a wrestling with demons feel:
You know what scares me the most? When I can't fight it anymore, when it takes over, when I totally lose control...I LIKE IT and that trailer had me COMPLETELY sold on the movie. Having the daddy issue backstory muddied the waters, and to me is on par with midichlorians as answering questions no one was asking.
 
2012-11-20 08:14:17 PM
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2012-11-20 08:21:30 PM

drewogatory: Uh, Pushing Hands? Wedding Banquet? Eat, Drink, Man,Woman? All pretty much Chinese love stories.


Only if you're going to totally ignore his other works, like The Ice Storm (which was far better than American Beauty), Ride with the Devil (one of the best movies set in the American Civil War, and far better at the personal scale than the overblown epics that we often get of that period), etc. Brokeback was after The Hulk, so I'm not throwing that in there.

It's pretty silly/racist to call him a director of Chinese love stories.
 
2012-11-20 08:24:34 PM
I like the Ang Lee Hulk. The sweeping visuals and use of landscapes was great, the Hulk became an analogue for anger in general. There is lots to like about it, certainly better than the TV series. As good as the Pinball? hmmmmm maybe

He's made better movies.
 
2012-11-20 09:38:04 PM

legion_of_doo: SineSwiper: You give the director of a Chinese love story to direct Hulk, and he turns it into a love story?

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Which Chinese Love Story?

The Ice Storm? Ride with the Devil? Sense & Sensibility? And those would be prior to The Hulk.

Oh, he Chinaman. Only make Chinaman movie. I see. So solly.


WTF?

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/maybe that isn't large enough... maybe I should post it 3 times...

You know, sorta like: 

lh5.googleusercontent.com
 
2012-11-20 11:54:53 PM

IrateShadow: Ang Lee took that movie seriously? He simulated panels for scene changes for chrissakes.


Actually liked the comic panel style wipes, it being a comic based movie and all that.
 
2012-11-20 11:58:50 PM

Techhell: CygnusDarius: Am I the only farker that actually like The Hulk movie? It was good, c'mon!.

Nope, I liked it too. I thought it was a failure, but it was the kind of failure that is good - it tried to do something different. To take a rather one-dimensional comic book character and turn him into something three dimensional. I've got issues with how he did it, but I'll take Ang Lee trying to give us an adult/mature/deep Hulk movie over the craptastic Green Lantern type movie.

/Also, Jennifer Connelly as Betty Ross, Sorry to Liv Tyler fans, but Jennifer Connelly is light years above Liv Tyler in every category that matters.
//Would be so happy if Jennifer Connelly starred in a She-Hulk movie.


See, I thought it was just a bad failure. As someone else said, the interesting aspect of Hulk is Hulk vs Banner vs Humanity. Using that to make the character three dimensional would have been fine. Show us his struggles to control himself, show us shunning humanity to save it from himself and how he's coming to grips with his life's work turning him into an uncontrollable engine of destruction and the guilt that follows him. Making his father partially to blame for his being the Hulk could have worked, but it was just done horribly. Also, mutant dogs.

I will say though that while Hulk was mostly just there just because in the Avengers movie there was one single line that made the character much more interesting IMO. "That's my secret Cap. I'm always angry."
 
2012-11-21 03:11:20 AM
I liked Ang Lee's Hulk. It was paced well, there was a nice build-up to the first Hulk reveal, and Nick Nolte was pretty hilarious. There were a few cringe worthy moments, like the mutant dogs scene, but overall I didn't leave the film feeling like it was overplayed. The Avengers had me cringing a lot more and I was getting bored by the end because the action was entering Peter Jackson's King Kong territory of CGI wankfest. I haven't watched the Norton Hulk to know any better.
 
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