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(Deadline)   J.R.R. Tolkien estate sues Warner Bros. for $80 million because they made Hobbit slot machines   ( divider line
    More: Silly, Warner Bros, hobbits, intangible assets, Lord of the Rings, breach of contracts, estate, Tolkien  
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2012-11-20 11:06:58 AM  
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Nasssty tricksy machine robs us.
2012-11-20 10:37:44 AM  
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SkunkWerks: Tommy Moo: Did Tolkien actually invent the race of Hobbit?

No more than he "invented" elves, dwarves, etc. Tolkien drew a lot on myth. If you read The Hobbit, in particular, you find a lot of familiar aspects in Hobbits as you might in Brownies, or other "little people".

You might say he re-invented a lot of those things. But then I tend to believe creativity isn't necessarily about creating absolutely brand new things. You're always re-treading ground to some extent- drawing on what's come before.

Everything is a remix.

Tolkien was explicitly re-writing myth when he wrote LotR. He was a linguist and a mythologian who specialized in Celtic and Teutonic mythology. He was worried that modern society was forgetting the old myths of their cultures, and wanted to reframe many of the character archetypes and conceptual threads into a new modernized form that would be more accessible to people. Even Tolkien knew he wasn't inventing anything. Aragorn is the lost king, a thread you see from Arthurian myths through a bunch of others. That's why the whole Tom Bombadil things exists, even though it's a weird departure from the story, so much so it was cut from the movie. Heck, he even kept some names; Gimli is straight out of Norse mythology, name and all.

Not only is it a remix, Tolkien was TRYING to make a remix. The stuff that Tolkien brought was the anti-industrialism you can see in the comparison between the Shire and such and Mordor, and the Christianity you can see poking through in the monotheistic views with entities like Gandalf as essentially angels.

HindiDiscoMonster: Tolkien was the first to create such a world and story. He is the grandfather of the fantasy literary genre. Other "fantasy" work like Arthur and such were considered folklore. In the Germanic example, those were considered folklore.

He absolutely is not the guy who invented "fantasy", and it's beyond ridiculous to think so. What he created has been used as the pattern for modern epic fantasy, but that has as much to do with the mythological underpinnings he borrowed as with anything else. There's plenty of other fantasy out there, predating Tolkien by hundreds of years. The Arthurian romances weren't folklore; they were books written based on stories that were almost forgotten, much the same as what Tolkien did a few hundred years later. Shakespeare had a lot of very explicit fantasy; what the heck else would you call things like A Midsummer Night's Dream? Later, you had things like Alice in Wonderland, and the Wizard of Oz.

Tolkien wasn't published until 1937. There's a TON of stuff that predates him. He was the start of a rebirth, but he didn't invent jack or shiat.
2012-11-20 07:55:05 AM  
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Practical_Draconian: Well, it's a slot machine that won't give old people the heart attacksheebie-jeebies like the Aliens slots.

I played that one last summer at a casino in WV... I was kind of going around playing all the licensed property slots I found interesting. Played the Match Game one, the Airplane! one, a handful of others. I wouldn't mind playing a LOTR themed one simply for the fun of it. Let's face it, slots have terrible odds. I spent about two hours losing about half the money I brought with me at the slot machines. But I had fun, It reminded me of the times I went to arcades as a little kid with a roll of quarters, playing all the neat looking games and losing horribly.

But in this case, all it took was an hour at the blackjack table to win it all back, and left for the day with nothing lost, nothing gained, except for a $5 chip I kept as a souvenir. You didn't get to do that at the arcade.
2012-11-20 05:40:58 AM  
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The other day I saw a Tolkien Craps table. I could tell because it a had a You Shall Not Pass Line.
2012-11-20 12:24:05 AM  
1 vote:
Coming next: Hobbit themed sex toys... the Dildo Daggins as it were.
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