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(Salon)   John McCain - the man who chose Sarah Palin as his vice presidential nominee - says that UN ambassador Susan Rice is unqualified for office. Really, he said that   (salon.com) divider line 216
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2012-11-19 05:27:49 PM
he really is trying to destroy what's left of his legacy, isn't he?
 
2012-11-19 05:52:58 PM
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At this point, I can no longer hold John McCain responsible for his own actions. He has lost his mind. As long as he can avoid voiding his bowels and bladder on the floor of the senate, I'll be impressed.

The voters of Arizona, however, I hold in complete contempt. Seriously, people, you put this obviously incapacitated, senile senior citizen in a position of power. What is wrong with you? It's not funny!
 
2012-11-19 05:59:37 PM
Beating a dead horse doesn't help, but it also doesn't hurt. Past his prime.
 
2012-11-19 06:02:43 PM
i49.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-19 06:07:48 PM
Luke Russert needs to ask McCain the same agist question he asked Nancy Pelosi. But he won't, because he's a little punk who will never measure up to his father.
 
2012-11-19 08:26:21 PM
 
2012-11-19 08:26:42 PM

ToxicMunkee: Luke Russert needs to ask McCain the same agist question he asked Nancy Pelosi. But he won't, because he's a little punk who will never measure up to his father.


Word up.
 
2012-11-19 08:34:05 PM
obama4usa.files.wordpress.com 

/hot like the temper
 
2012-11-19 08:35:43 PM
He keeps this up and people will forget that McCain wasn't always on the wrong side of every story and issue. They will forget that he was against torture, was sometimes a reasonable voice in the GOP, was able to poke fun at himself on TV and appeared not to be an intractable mean old asshole.

It is like he is determined to be remembered as a doddering old fool.
 
2012-11-19 08:36:33 PM
I used to respect McCain. I was even close to forgiving him for being a part of the Keating 5. He was a decent senator and a seemed a genuinely honest, common-sense guy.

I think prolonged exposure to Palin broke his brain.
 
2012-11-19 08:45:43 PM

FlashHarry: he really is trying to destroy what's left of his legacy, isn't he?




Daniel Webster frowns on this persnickety upstart's shenanigans!

/ and his eyes...they haunt my dreams
// yikes
 
2012-11-19 08:50:34 PM

whistleridge: FlashHarry: he really is trying to destroy what's left of his legacy, isn't he?



Daniel Webster frowns on this persnickety upstart's shenanigans!

/ and his eyes...they haunt my dreams
// yikes


Dammit...stupid coffeeshop internet:

s8.postimage.org
 
2012-11-19 08:51:52 PM

FlashHarry: he really is trying to destroy what's left of his legacy, isn't he?


WIf only he had an actual legacy t begin with.
 
2012-11-19 08:52:37 PM
All who have lost all respect for McCain, say "Aye".
 
2012-11-19 08:53:05 PM
8 days!!! The public was in the dark for 8 days!!!
 
2012-11-19 08:53:51 PM
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2012-11-19 08:55:04 PM
This reminds me of Don't Ask Don't Tell.... he's just digging in on a completely losing issue.
 
2012-11-19 08:57:05 PM
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2012-11-19 08:59:16 PM
It sure seems like somebody in the right wing machinery has something on this guy. Maybe those gaffes on the campaign trail with what's-his-name millionaire dude were on purpose and actually subversive FU's to his puppet masters.
 
2012-11-19 08:59:44 PM
Yeah. You go with that, John. You've been such a well-respected leader of the Senate since your Presidential bid. This is sure to solidify your legacy.
 
2012-11-19 09:00:02 PM
farm8.staticflickr.com
 
2012-11-19 09:00:24 PM

brigid_fitch: I used to respect McCain. I was even close to forgiving him for being a part of the Keating 5. He was a decent senator and a seemed a genuinely honest, common-sense guy.

I think prolonged exposure to Palin broke his brain.


I lost my respect for him before he unleashed the Thrilla from Wasilla.

I was in Iraq when he claimed Baghdad was safe as an Indiana farmers' market, and that was when we were losing four guys a DAY in Iraq.



.
 
2012-11-19 09:01:14 PM
So, what is his explanation of what makes her unqualified for the Secretary of State position? That she made statements on the Sunday shows based on the information provided to her that the attack sprung from demonstrations, information she said at the time was still being investigated and might ultimately turn out to be incorrect?

I wonder if he thinks Colin Powell is now unqualified for office?
 
2012-11-19 09:02:58 PM
This from the guy who graduated near the bottom of his class at West Point, but wanted to be president anyway.
 
2012-11-19 09:04:23 PM

brigid_fitch: I used to respect McCain. I was even close to forgiving him for being a part of the Keating 5. He was a decent senator and a seemed a genuinely honest, common-sense guy.

I think prolonged exposure to Palin broke his brain.


He's heading home to AZ after a long and difficult march. Many years as a POW (while supplied with hookers according to Jerome Corsi). Decades as a politician didn't soften the blows to existing bruises. He's a complex man. I have hope for a competent biographer.
 
2012-11-19 09:06:58 PM
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2012-11-19 09:07:34 PM

2xhelix: WIf only he had an actual legacy t begin with.


Glad to see that not everyone drank the McCain koolaid. Except for that year he was running for president and the year after (out of spite), McCain has always been a craven, snide, and mean-spirited Republican.
 
2012-11-19 09:08:33 PM

TofuTheAlmighty: Glad to see that not everyone drank the McCain koolaid. Except for that first year (2000) he was running for president and the year after (out of spite), McCain has always been a craven, snide, and mean-spirited Republican.


FTFM
 
2012-11-19 09:09:46 PM

djkutch: brigid_fitch: I used to respect McCain. I was even close to forgiving him for being a part of the Keating 5. He was a decent senator and a seemed a genuinely honest, common-sense guy.

I think prolonged exposure to Palin broke his brain.

He's heading home to AZ after a long and difficult march. Many years as a POW (while supplied with hookers according to Jerome Corsi). Decades as a politician didn't soften the blows to existing bruises. He's a complex man. I have hope for a competent biographer.


Broadwell?
 
2012-11-19 09:10:06 PM
You know, John, if you can't find another committee with a Ranking Member slot open for you, retirement is a valid option.
 
2012-11-19 09:10:35 PM
The man is a few short steps away from just going full McCarthy and burning his legacy down with a blowtorch.

You'd think he'd have better handlers, as an ex-nominee for President.
 
2012-11-19 09:12:15 PM
i309.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-19 09:12:19 PM

Grungehamster: So, what is his explanation of what makes her unqualified for the Secretary of State position?


Susan Rice is not a potential Secretary of State that would have to give up a Democratic seat of the Senate (like John Kerry, who Republicans amazingly support for Secretary of State!).
 
2012-11-19 09:12:27 PM

Sgt Otter: I was in Iraq when he claimed Baghdad was safe as an Indiana farmers' market, and that was when we were losing four guys a DAY in Iraq.



He meant it was as safe as a farmers market that he was driving in.
 
2012-11-19 09:12:54 PM
Just another

Bump in the road
 
2012-11-19 09:15:48 PM

egomann: Sgt Otter: I was in Iraq when he claimed Baghdad was safe as an Indiana farmers' market, and that was when we were losing four guys a DAY in Iraq.


He meant it was as safe as a farmers market that he was driving in.


Pigs eat people?
 
2012-11-19 09:16:01 PM
Two elections in a row a large number of the American population wanted to elect a "Republican". They just couldn't find one on the ballot when they walked into the voting booth.
 
2012-11-19 09:16:42 PM
Let's deport all republicans to Israel so they can have their farking war.
 
2012-11-19 09:17:53 PM
He said it again?
 
2012-11-19 09:18:01 PM

ToxicMunkee: Luke Russert needs to ask McCain the same agist question he asked Nancy Pelosi. But he won't, because he's a little punk who will never measure up to his father.


Pretty much, this tweet sums up his stupidity.

farm9.staticflickr.com
 
2012-11-19 09:19:24 PM

Sock Ruh Tease: Grungehamster: So, what is his explanation of what makes her unqualified for the Secretary of State position?

Susan Rice is not a potential Secretary of State that would have to give up a Democratic seat of the Senate (like John Kerry, who Republicans amazingly support for Secretary of State!).


Scott Brown strongly endorses a sitting Massachusetts Senator for an appointed position that would leave the seat vacant and subject to a special election.
 
2012-11-19 09:19:24 PM
This appears to be the endgame on Benghazigate
 
2012-11-19 09:19:37 PM
 
2012-11-19 09:22:02 PM
Election year, right?

Yeah he goes nuts in those.
 
2012-11-19 09:22:07 PM

fusillade762: McCain's been pissed at Rice since she said mean things about him during the 2008 campaign. Guy can hold a grudge, that's for sure.

"His tendency is to shoot first and ask first questions later, it is dangerous and we can't afford four more years of this reckless foreign policy," Susan Rice said to reporters about McCain in August 2008.

"On critical, factual questions that are fundamental to understanding what is going on in Iraq and the region, Senator McCain has gotten it wrong and not just once but repeatedly," said Rice in June 2008.


She appears to be referring to his inability to distinguish Sunni from shiate after we had been there 5 years
 
2012-11-19 09:22:12 PM

brigid_fitch: I used to respect McCain. I was even close to forgiving him for being a part of the Keating 5. He was a decent senator and a seemed a genuinely honest, common-sense guy.

I think prolonged exposure to Palin broke his brain.


i suspect subby is misled. i think Palin was force-fed upon McCain by those in party who backed her with big money from early on. pretty face, camera whore, but their eternal erection made them forget she could barely Alaska. yes, she did break McCain. the VC couldn't do it but Cougar for Congress proved to be the human Viagra that broke the piggy bank. damn shame, he was a good man and a true patriot. somebody shoulda kept momma off that flag pole.
 
2012-11-19 09:22:28 PM
DNFRA..........can this @ss hat ....just go away....?

oh and... lets arm the rebels !!!
 
2012-11-19 09:24:11 PM
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Works with Palinroids too.
 
2012-11-19 09:24:32 PM
www.themoviesnitch.com
 
2012-11-19 09:25:17 PM
i49.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-19 09:26:22 PM
Yeah, once you appoint Palin to a position where you are saying she is qualified to be President of the United States, you never, ever, ever get to be critical on who you think is or is not qualified for appointment to Secretary of State (or dog catcher for that matter). He either has a total failure of judgement or a total failure of character to do the right thing. Either way, it's time for him to be quiet.
 
2012-11-19 09:27:00 PM
Has Hillary Clinton announced she's quitting?
 
2012-11-19 09:27:56 PM

wongway: Just another

Bump in the road


This is another bump in the road for McCain I agree.
 
2012-11-19 09:29:35 PM
Yup.
 
2012-11-19 09:29:44 PM

Lsherm: Has Hillary Clinton announced she's quitting?


Yes, she announced before the election that she wouldn't serve as Secretary of State during a second term.
 
2012-11-19 09:29:46 PM
Personally I'm not so sure we should have another secretary of state named Rice.
 
2012-11-19 09:31:11 PM

Lsherm: Has Hillary Clinton announced she's quitting?


She said a while ago that she wouldn't serve in a potential Obama second term. Conservatives took it as "ZOMG!! Rats from a sinking ship!!!11!"
 
2012-11-19 09:31:19 PM

KrispyKritter: brigid_fitch: I used to respect McCain. I was even close to forgiving him for being a part of the Keating 5. He was a decent senator and a seemed a genuinely honest, common-sense guy.

I think prolonged exposure to Palin broke his brain.

i suspect subby is misled. i think Palin was force-fed upon McCain by those in party who backed her with big money from early on. pretty face, camera whore, but their eternal erection made them forget she could barely Alaska. yes, she did break McCain. the VC couldn't do it but Cougar for Congress proved to be the human Viagra that broke the piggy bank. damn shame, he was a good man and a true patriot. somebody shoulda kept momma off that flag pole.


Nah, McCain wanted Lieberman in the worst way.The party was pushing for a Midwesterner like Daniels with solid budget cred.
She was an 11th hour compromise.
 
2012-11-19 09:36:03 PM

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Don't know if that's yours but I funnied you.

'Cos that's pretty funny.
 
2012-11-19 09:36:50 PM
I truly wonder if she is qualified. She might be. She sure as hell passed Gullibility 101.
 
2012-11-19 09:37:25 PM

MrEricSir: Personally I'm not so sure we should have another secretary of state named Rice.


Maybe he should just appoint another Secretary of State named Clinton. Bill for the win!

Of course, there are those pesky line of succession questions (although it does allow for the skipping of those not qualified for succession and there is the can't be "elected" again line).

Also, I doubt after being President he would want to be anything further down the line from that level answering to someone else. And he would have to give up his Clinton Global Initiative which might be doing more for the world than he could in the government.

But hey, it would make for a great story.
 
2012-11-19 09:37:44 PM

qorkfiend: Lsherm: Has Hillary Clinton announced she's quitting?

Yes, she announced before the election that she wouldn't serve as Secretary of State during a second term.


I read all that, I guess I wasn't clear: has she made a statement in the past week?

I figured she was leaving, I just didn't know where this flurry of news about replacements was coming from since I couldn't find an announcement.
 
2012-11-19 09:39:15 PM
Rice would be better suited for the WNBA. She's too damn aggressive, muscle over brains.
 
2012-11-19 09:41:41 PM

VarmintCong: Lsherm: Has Hillary Clinton announced she's quitting?

She said a while ago that she wouldn't serve in a potential Obama second term. Conservatives took it as "ZOMG!! Rats from a sinking ship!!!11!"


For the record, I have taken the liberty of providing a summary of Cabinet turnover between terms, which I defined as any Cabinet seat made vacant within the six months after Election Day by an administration that did not change on Election Day.

Cabinet turnover wasn't much of a thing until Nixon did a housecleaning, and now it's just par for the course to see a bunch of people leave.
 
2012-11-19 09:43:56 PM

wongway: Just another

Bump in the road


Hey winterwhile, did your old account get banned or did it die of embarrassment?

Haha, but seriously, is that Nate Silver a genius or what? Boy did he make the kids at Fox "news" look stupid!

Best part? Forever!!
 
2012-11-19 09:46:22 PM
He was such a good Astronaut. And he married a beer baroness.
 
2012-11-19 09:50:40 PM

coco ebert: ToxicMunkee: Luke Russert needs to ask McCain the same agist question he asked Nancy Pelosi. But he won't, because he's a little punk who will never measure up to his father.

Word up.


What was so great about his father? Is it that since he's dead we have to pretend he was god at his job?
 
2012-11-19 09:54:14 PM
i78.photobucket.com

F*ck you, McCain!
 
2012-11-19 09:54:47 PM
The Democrats are really, really stupid if they don't basically eliminate the filibuster so attention whore assholes like McCain can't stop up the necessary work of the Senate just because they want to have the attention of the whole nation while they have their temper tantrum. 

I can only guess that McCain is doing what he's doing now because he wants to be remembered as a crybaby asshole.
 
2012-11-19 09:54:48 PM
Republicans for 'Not shaving until Benghazi is a scandal' 2012.
 
2012-11-19 09:56:28 PM

hbk72777: Rice would be better suited for the WNBA. She's too damn aggressive, muscle over brains.


Mmmm. Yet another post that validates my description of you as "Angry White, Hates Non-Whites."

Dumbf*ck.
 
2012-11-19 09:56:48 PM

brigid_fitch: I used to respect McCain. I was even close to forgiving him for being a part of the Keating 5. He was a decent senator and a seemed a genuinely honest, common-sense guy.


McCain has long been the biggest con artist in Congress. That asshole had LOTS of people snowed for years, but his true strips have been coming out since 2000, and especially since 2004. Fark 'em.
 
2012-11-19 09:57:43 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: He keeps this up and people will forget that McCain wasn't always on the wrong side of every story and issue. They will forget that he was against torture, was sometimes a reasonable voice in the GOP, was able to poke fun at himself on TV and appeared not to be an intractable mean old asshole.

It is like he is determined to be remembered as a doddering old fool.


I don't forget he was against torture.

Wish I could so the later hypocricy wouldn't be so damn sad.
 
2012-11-19 09:57:45 PM
I would love to see Obama nominate Olympia Snowe for the position, just for shiatz and giggles.
 
2012-11-19 09:58:45 PM
"Shockingly, old white male senators are attacking a woman of color in a powerful position."

Seriously - like these old white dudes are ever going to accept a woman of color named Rice as Secretary of State.
 
2012-11-19 10:00:03 PM
The WH knew the truth about the attacks and made a conscience decision to send out a purposely mis-informed surrogate to deliver a known non-truth. (to them, not her.)
 
2012-11-19 10:00:30 PM
She used the term "extremist" instead of "Al Qaeda". Burn her!
 
2012-11-19 10:02:57 PM
The GOP is simply obscene at this point. Utterly and unapologetically obscene.
 
2012-11-19 10:03:19 PM

Rann Xerox: [i78.photobucket.com image 564x639]

F*ck you, McCain!


Oh my god that is so horrifying....
But yes. Seriously. F*ck you McCain,
 
2012-11-19 10:04:06 PM

valar_morghulis: hbk72777: Rice would be better suited for the WNBA. She's too damn aggressive, muscle over brains.

Mmmm. Yet another post that validates my description of you as "Angry White, Hates Non-Whites."

Dumbf*ck.


Oh, it gets better. He's a big fan of Rev. David Manning, the black "minister" who hates Barack Obama.

He doesn't realize that Manning is a black supremacist who hates Obama for being half white.
 
2012-11-19 10:04:16 PM
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2012-11-19 10:04:46 PM

skylabdown: The WH knew the truth about the attacks and made a conscience decision to send out a purposely mis-informed surrogate to deliver a known non-truth. (to them, not her.)


rationalwiki.org
 
2012-11-19 10:05:15 PM

ToxicMunkee: Luke Russert needs to ask McCain the same agist question he asked Nancy Pelosi. But he won't, because he's a little punk who will never measure up to his father.


If it was wrong to ask it of Pelosi, it is wrong, period. I'm not defending Russert, but please be consistent. If you think two wrongs make a right, then fine.
 
2012-11-19 10:05:28 PM

KrispyKritter: brigid_fitch: I used to respect McCain. I was even close to forgiving him for being a part of the Keating 5. He was a decent senator and a seemed a genuinely honest, common-sense guy.

I think prolonged exposure to Palin broke his brain.

i suspect subby is misled. i think Palin was force-fed upon McCain by those in party who backed her with big money from early on. pretty face, camera whore, but their eternal erection made them forget she could barely Alaska. yes, she did break McCain. the VC couldn't do it but Cougar for Congress proved to be the human Viagra that broke the piggy bank. damn shame, he was a good man and a true patriot. somebody shoulda kept momma off that flag pole.


Haha she could barely Alaska.

Good on many levels.
 
2012-11-19 10:06:09 PM

Sgt Otter: brigid_fitch: I used to respect McCain. I was even close to forgiving him for being a part of the Keating 5. He was a decent senator and a seemed a genuinely honest, common-sense guy.

I think prolonged exposure to Palin broke his brain.

I lost my respect for him before he unleashed the Thrilla from Wasilla.

I was in Iraq when he claimed Baghdad was safe as an Indiana farmers' market, and that was when we were losing four guys a DAY in Iraq.



.


To be fair, that might actually be the death toll in an IN farmer's market per day...when guys like McCain are driving around.

/sorry if that was assholish
//I know that feel, bro. Sad for our brothers and sisters in arms that have been lost overseas and at home (to unseen wounds)
 
2012-11-19 10:08:15 PM

Sgt Otter: valar_morghulis: hbk72777: Rice would be better suited for the WNBA. She's too damn aggressive, muscle over brains.

Mmmm. Yet another post that validates my description of you as "Angry White, Hates Non-Whites."

Dumbf*ck.

Oh, it gets better. He's a big fan of Rev. David Manning, the black "minister" who hates Barack Obama.

He doesn't realize that Manning is a black supremacist who hates Obama for being half white.


That's exhaustingly pitiful.
 
2012-11-19 10:08:30 PM

Gosling: Cabinet turnover wasn't much of a thing until Nixon did a housecleaning, and now it's just par for the course to see a bunch of people leave.


Didn't Roosevelt have a different VP every one of his four terms?

BitwiseShift: He was such a good Astronaut. And he married a beer baroness.

 

www.buzzlol.com
 
2012-11-19 10:09:44 PM

MSFT: wongway: Just another

Bump in the road

Hey winterwhile, did your old account get banned or did it die of embarrassment?

Haha, but seriously, is that Nate Silver a genius or what? Boy did he make the kids at Fox "news" look stupid!

Best part? Forever!!


Feel like explaining the origin of the 'bump in the road' thing? I must have missed that one.
 
2012-11-19 10:13:29 PM
Rose Garden

10:43 A.M. EDT

THE PRESIDENT: Good morning. Every day, all across the world, American diplomats and civilians work tirelessly to advance the interests and values of our nation. Often, they are away from their families. Sometimes, they brave great danger.

Yesterday, four of these extraordinary Americans were killed in an attack on our diplomatic post in Benghazi. Among those killed was our Ambassador, Chris Stevens, as well as Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith. We are still notifying the families of the others who were killed. And today, the American people stand united in holding the families of the four Americans in our thoughts and in our prayers.

The United States condemns in the strongest terms this outrageous and shocking attack. We're working with the government of Libya to secure our diplomats. I've also directed my administration to increase our security at diplomatic posts around the world. And make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people.

Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts.

Already, many Libyans have joined us in doing so, and this attack will not break the bonds between the United States and Libya. Libyan security personnel fought back against the attackers alongside Americans. Libyans helped some of our diplomats find safety, and they carried Ambassador Stevens's body to the hospital, where we tragically learned that he had died.

It's especially tragic that Chris Stevens died in Benghazi because it is a city that he helped to save. At the height of the Libyan revolution, Chris led our diplomatic post in Benghazi. With characteristic skill, courage, and resolve, he built partnerships with Libyan revolutionaries, and helped them as they planned to build a new Libya. When the Qaddafi regime came to an end, Chris was there to serve as our ambassador to the new Libya, and he worked tirelessly to support this young democracy, and I think both Secretary Clinton and I relied deeply on his knowledge of the situation on the ground there. He was a role model to all who worked with him and to the young diplomats who aspire to walk in his footsteps.

Along with his colleagues, Chris died in a country that is still striving to emerge from the recent experience of war. Today, the loss of these four Americans is fresh, but our memories of them linger on. I have no doubt that their legacy will live on through the work that they did far from our shores and in the hearts of those who love them back home.

Of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks. We mourned with the families who were lost on that day. I visited the graves of troops who made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hallowed grounds of Arlington Cemetery, and had the opportunity to say thank you and visit some of our wounded warriors at Walter Reed. And then last night, we learned the news of this attack in Benghazi.

As Americans, let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases, lay down their lives for it. Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those both civilian and military who represent us around the globe.

No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.

But we also know that the lives these Americans led stand in stark contrast to those of their attackers. These four Americans stood up for freedom and human dignity. They should give every American great pride in the country that they served, and the hope that our flag represents to people around the globe who also yearn to live in freedom and with dignity.

We grieve with their families, but let us carry on their memory, and let us continue their work of seeking a stronger America and a better world for all of our children.

Thank you. May God bless the memory of those we lost and may God bless the United States of America.


That's funny, no mention of a video on Youtube or riots. The only type of "attack" mentioned was "terror". Hmmmmmmmm weird.
 
2012-11-19 10:14:40 PM

skylabdown: The WH knew the truth about the attacks and made a conscience decision to send out a purposely mis-informed surrogate to deliver a known non-truth. (to them, not her.)

We believe that folks in Benghazi, a small number of people came to the embassy to - or to the consulate, rather, to replicate the sort of challenge that was posed in Cairo. And then as that unfolded, it seems to have been hijacked, let us say, by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons, weapons that as you know in - in the wake of the revolution in Libya are - are quite common and accessible. And it then evolved from there.


This is an incorrect assessment?
 
2012-11-19 10:14:55 PM

Sgt Otter: valar_morghulis: hbk72777: Rice would be better suited for the WNBA. She's too damn aggressive, muscle over brains.

Mmmm. Yet another post that validates my description of you as "Angry White, Hates Non-Whites."

Dumbf*ck.

Oh, it gets better. He's a big fan of Rev. David Manning, the black "minister" who hates Barack Obama.

He doesn't realize that Manning is a black supremacist who hates Obama for being half white.


Well, black people have dominated the Oval Office for 80% of the last five years; how long do you expect gentle, intelligent white men to suffer under such oppression?
 
2012-11-19 10:15:22 PM
Obama had to have known Republicans would seize on this when he sent her out with the inaccurate Benghazi talking points. The administration has all but guaranteed she will not make it through a Senate confirmation.
 
2012-11-19 10:17:30 PM

Apocalyptic Inferno: Obama had to have known Republicans would seize on this when he sent her out with the inaccurate Benghazi talking points. The administration has all but guaranteed she will not make it through a Senate confirmation.


Again, what is inaccurate about her talking points, which were signed off on by former Right Wing Demigod David David Petraeus.
 
2012-11-19 10:17:47 PM

theknuckler_33: MSFT: wongway: Just another

Bump in the road

Hey winterwhile, did your old account get banned or did it die of embarrassment?

Haha, but seriously, is that Nate Silver a genius or what? Boy did he make the kids at Fox "news" look stupid!

Best part? Forever!!

Feel like explaining the origin of the 'bump in the road' thing? I must have missed that one.


No idea, I just love calling out all the alts now that the election is over. His idiotic semantics and repetitive ellipses gave him away in another thread.
 
2012-11-19 10:20:16 PM

SomebodyElsesShoes: coco ebert: ToxicMunkee: Luke Russert needs to ask McCain the same agist question he asked Nancy Pelosi. But he won't, because he's a little punk who will never measure up to his father.

Word up.

What was so great about his father? Is it that since he's dead we have to pretend he was god at his job?


He had his faults too, but you could at least tell that Tim had some enjoyment for what he was doing. His son on the other hand, he clearly wanted to be in sports, and only got his position out of sympathy to his dad's tragic death, And boy does it show in his work.
 
2012-11-19 10:21:08 PM
Didn't think I'd bestow McCain with the infamous Kos Rant, but damn dude, enjoy it, you earned it, Mav.

Murdering, Lying, Thieving, Rat-F*** Republican Pieces of Sub-Amphibian Sh**...

...mendacious, death-loving, frothing, lamprey-mouthed, inhuman, abominable, atrocious, verminous, rapacious, sadistic, bullying, invasive, grasping, psychopathic, twisted, warped, animalistic, belly-crawling, mouth-breathing, illiterate, innumerate, know-nothing, imbecilic, sheep-raping, horror movie extras masturbating into wads of money while fantasizing about war collateral damage...(inhale)...puppy-torturing, vacuous, mindless, nihilistic, evil, diseased, soulless, morally bankrupt, greedy, insecure, envious, kleptomaniac charnel-house mascots stewing in universal hatred for all life...(inhale)...toxic, ugly, bestial, humorless, loveless, compassionless, demonic human-shaped ruins forever slouching toward Bethlehem in search of some fresh nightmare to wreak on the defenseless via other people's money and heroism...(inhale)...Satanic monkey-shiat-throwing, cowardly, chickenhawkish, parasitic, baby's-candy-stealing, wife-beating, minority-purging, syphilitic Confederate poltergeists with erectile dysfunction...

...perverse, prurient, crocodile-eyed, necrophiliac mass-producers of human misery and gleeful destroyers of truth, justice, and the American way...sepulchre-hearted human deserts walking the Earth only to look for more victims...silly, stupid, ignorant bastards proud of every good thing they've never done, every person they've never been considerate toward, every fact they've never learned and will never acknowledge, and every virtue they will never possess or even attempt to comprehend...preternaturally drunken, bleary-eyed, zombie-like, empty vessels who wander aimlessly until given instruction by their masters...unthinking, unquestioning, unfeeling diabolus ex machina mockeries of the human condition, perpetually acting out a burlesque of the basest and least interesting psychological dysfunctions...

...face-chewing, self-devouring, medieval barbarian museum dioramas and depraved Nazi homunculi preserved in formaldehyde to frighten children...sick, ominous, loathsome, Nosferatu-impersonating Gollum-acolytes feasting on the flesh of our society while complaining about its taste...tax-evading, sommelier-abusing, election-buying, yacht-aficionado hemmorhoids flying flags of convenience and berating their six-year-old Chinese employees for requesting bathroom breaks...

Republicans, you vile, repulsive, scum. You're not leading this country. You're not contributing to this country. You're not even part of this country. You are the maggot-ridden rot that arises in this country's damaged flesh; you are the vultures constantly picking at us to see if we're weak enough yet to become your next meal; you create problems where none would otherwise exist, just to further weaken America and quicken your own insatiable appetites; you are garbage, and you are traitors. And you are not welcome in this country anymore.
 
2012-11-19 10:23:17 PM

Mocknews: [i.imgur.com image 850x637]


Came to say this, but I was afraid that I didn't have an image macro for it.
 
2012-11-19 10:24:25 PM

SomebodyElsesShoes: coco ebert: ToxicMunkee: Luke Russert needs to ask McCain the same agist question he asked Nancy Pelosi. But he won't, because he's a little punk who will never measure up to his father.

Word up.

What was so great about his father? Is it that since he's dead we have to pretend he was god at his job?


I actually wasn't a huge fan of his father but I definitely degree he's a little punk.
 
2012-11-19 10:24:26 PM
If it's one thing Republican politicians know about, it's women. They've demonstrated that over and over again...time to dust off the ole golf clubs, John, you're done, no lie.
 
2012-11-19 10:24:39 PM
fta: ...the man who tapped Sarah Palin

Ew, thanks for the visual.

*reads rest of article*

So now Walnuts and his belle of the ball Lindsey Graham (seriously, the guy makes Marcus Bachmann look downright butch in direct comparison. NTTAWWT) want Susan Rice to be the designated fallperson for their manufactured scandal?

Because there are rumors that her name is being floated as being on the short list for SecState?

And cos McCain can't forgive or forget the "shoot first, aim later" dig?

Wow, those guys suck.
 
2012-11-19 10:25:40 PM
There's your "maverick", GOP. Another example of your decision making skills.
 
2012-11-19 10:25:46 PM
i18.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-19 10:25:51 PM

McCain was furious in '08 when Susan Rice, then an Obama '08 aide, called BS on his stroll thru Iraq market w/100 soldiers and 5 copters.

- roadkillrefugee (@rkref) November 19, 2012
 
2012-11-19 10:26:49 PM

MFAWG: Apocalyptic Inferno: Obama had to have known Republicans would seize on this when he sent her out with the inaccurate Benghazi talking points. The administration has all but guaranteed she will not make it through a Senate confirmation.

Again, what is inaccurate about her talking points, which were signed off on by former Right Wing Demigod David David Petraeus.


I thought I heard the original intelligence from the CIA was altered for her statements to place more emphasis on reaction to a video and away from terrorist implications. Additionally, by the time she went on, many people, including the Libyan prime minister, were indicating that it wasn't a demonstration against a video.
 
2012-11-19 10:33:05 PM

MSFT: theknuckler_33: MSFT: wongway: Just another

Bump in the road

Hey winterwhile, did your old account get banned or did it die of embarrassment?

Haha, but seriously, is that Nate Silver a genius or what? Boy did he make the kids at Fox "news" look stupid!

Best part? Forever!!

Feel like explaining the origin of the 'bump in the road' thing? I must have missed that one.

No idea, I just love calling out all the alts now that the election is over. His idiotic semantics and repetitive ellipses gave him away in another thread.


Oh, ok. Am I wrong that I have seen that 'bump in the road' thing more than just a few times from trolls recently? It seems to have become a thing.

/I use ellipses more frequently than I should...
//not an alt
 
2012-11-19 10:36:14 PM

Granny_Panties: Rose Garden

10:43 A.M. EDT

THE PRESIDENT: Good morning. Every day, all across the world, American diplomats and civilians work tirelessly to advance the interests and values of our nation. Often, they are away from their families. Sometimes, they brave great danger.

Yesterday, four of these extraordinary Americans were killed in an attack on our diplomatic post in Benghazi. Among those killed was our Ambassador, Chris Stevens, as well as Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith. We are still notifying the families of the others who were killed. And today, the American people stand united in holding the families of the four Americans in our thoughts and in our prayers.

The United States condemns in the strongest terms this outrageous and shocking attack. We're working with the government of Libya to secure our diplomats. I've also directed my administration to increase our security at diplomatic posts around the world. And make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people.

Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts.

Already, many Libyans have joined us in doing so, and this attack will not break the bonds between the United States and Libya. Libyan security personnel fought back against the attackers alongside Americans. Libyans helped some of our diplomats find safety, and they carried Ambassador Stevens's body to the hospital, where we tragically learned that he had died.

It's especially tragic that Chris Stevens died in Benghazi because it is a city that he helped to save. At the height of the Libyan revolution, Chris led our diplomatic post in Benghazi. With characteristic skill, courage, and resolve, he built partnerships wi ...


Even if there was mention of a video it would hardly be the crime of the century. It's not like invading an annoying third world country on bogus intelligence for example.
 
2012-11-19 10:36:21 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: He keeps this up and people will forget that McCain wasn't always on the wrong side of every story and issue. They will forget that he was against torture, was sometimes a reasonable voice in the GOP, was able to poke fun at himself on TV and appeared not to be an intractable mean old asshole.

It is like he is determined to be remembered as a doddering old fool.


Hell, he was the first Senator--on either side of the aisle--to call for an investigation of some kind into the so-called intelligence used to justify Iraq. I liked him back then. He WAS a "maverick". He bucked the GOP when the GOP was first starting this trend of never questioning the Party.

Then he decided to run for President, turned into a total dick, and blew all the goodwill he previously built. The final nail in the coffin for me was when he hooked up with that brainless coont.
 
2012-11-19 10:36:44 PM

MFAWG: fusillade762: McCain's been pissed at Rice since she said mean things about him during the 2008 campaign. Guy can hold a grudge, that's for sure.

"His tendency is to shoot first and ask first questions later, it is dangerous and we can't afford four more years of this reckless foreign policy," Susan Rice said to reporters about McCain in August 2008.

"On critical, factual questions that are fundamental to understanding what is going on in Iraq and the region, Senator McCain has gotten it wrong and not just once but repeatedly," said Rice in June 2008.

She appears to be referring to his inability to distinguish Sunni from shiate after we had been there 5 years


Man... I had an ex who spent nearly a year in Iraq (03) who didn't really get the difference between Sunni and shiate and didn't know what Chaldean Iraqis were at the time. Did later but damn if that didn't make it wretchedly apparent that we were gonna have a big, big problem there... more so than before which was stupidly obvious from the get go.

/brown Koran people = all the same I guess
//unless you grow up in an area like SE Michigan
 
2012-11-19 10:37:08 PM

Apocalyptic Inferno: MFAWG: Apocalyptic Inferno: Obama had to have known Republicans would seize on this when he sent her out with the inaccurate Benghazi talking points. The administration has all but guaranteed she will not make it through a Senate confirmation.

Again, what is inaccurate about her talking points, which were signed off on by former Right Wing Demigod David David Petraeus.

I thought I heard the original intelligence from the CIA was altered for her statements to place more emphasis on reaction to a video and away from terrorist implications. Additionally, by the time she went on, many people, including the Libyan prime minister, were indicating that it wasn't a demonstration against a video.


Aren't there on the ground witnesses that say a demonstration against the video did in fact take place? How hard is to believe that these guys either set it up as cover, or just took advantage of a situation?

Yes, she is clearly using carefully worded language, but the complaint seems to be that since she isn't screaming OMGTERRORISM!!!!! while running around the room, she's unqualified to be the chief diplomat of these here United States.

I don't think I'm buying it. OTOH, they were going to fight every appointment tooth and nail anyway, so why not go after her with this weak sauce. Should be good for some LULZ, anyway.
 
2012-11-19 10:37:12 PM

Apocalyptic Inferno: MFAWG: Apocalyptic Inferno: Obama had to have known Republicans would seize on this when he sent her out with the inaccurate Benghazi talking points. The administration has all but guaranteed she will not make it through a Senate confirmation.

Again, what is inaccurate about her talking points, which were signed off on by former Right Wing Demigod David David Petraeus.

I thought I heard the original intelligence from the CIA was altered for her statements to place more emphasis on reaction to a video and away from terrorist implications. Additionally, by the time she went on, many people, including the Libyan prime minister, were indicating that it wasn't a demonstration against a video.


The FBI requested a change in language which originally stated the U.S. "knew" Islamic extremists participated in the attack. According to a U.S. intelligence official the wording was changed to "there are indications" Islamic extremists participated.

The initial version included information linking individuals involved in the attack to al Qaeda, according to a senior U.S. official familiar with the drafting of the talking points But when the document was sent to the rest of the intelligence community for review, there was a decision to change "al Qaeda" to "extremists." The official said the change was made for legitimate intelligence and legal reasons, not for political purposes.

The White House on Friday said it made only one change, substituting the word "mission" for "consulate."
 
2012-11-19 10:37:53 PM
Maybe they know McCain is on his way out of politics and asked him to pull a kamikaze attack on Rice?
 
2012-11-19 10:38:32 PM
And what did she say that was so in competent?

She basically said that there had been demonstrations across the middle east that day, including one in Benghazi. She then went on to say that extremists took advantage of this, hijacked the protest and actually turned it into a terrorist attack.

Which is exactly what happened, and exactly what she said happened.
 
2012-11-19 10:38:38 PM
Well then Susan Rice must be really retarded.
 
2012-11-19 10:38:49 PM
Dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
 
2012-11-19 10:43:20 PM

jso2897: Dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.


Is it periwinkle blue?

/dags
 
2012-11-19 10:44:11 PM

JohnnyC: Maybe they know McCain is on his way out of politics and asked him to pull a kamikaze attack on Rice?


Perhaps they don't realize they're all on their way out of politics. They just need to hammer the last few nails in their political coffins when the fiscal cliff blows up in their right wing authoritarian faces.
 
2012-11-19 10:44:52 PM

Mikey1969: And what did she say that was so in competent?

She basically said that there had been demonstrations across the middle east that day, including one in Benghazi. She then went on to say that extremists took advantage of this, hijacked the protest and actually turned it into a terrorist attack.

Which is exactly what happened, and exactly what she said happened.


she said what she was told. That the attack was a spontaneous offshoot of protests about the movie. Turns out that this was not the case, apparently. She is not at fault, however.
 
2012-11-19 10:46:08 PM

error 303: Apocalyptic Inferno: MFAWG: Apocalyptic Inferno: Obama had to have known Republicans would seize on this when he sent her out with the inaccurate Benghazi talking points. The administration has all but guaranteed she will not make it through a Senate confirmation.

Again, what is inaccurate about her talking points, which were signed off on by former Right Wing Demigod David David Petraeus.

I thought I heard the original intelligence from the CIA was altered for her statements to place more emphasis on reaction to a video and away from terrorist implications. Additionally, by the time she went on, many people, including the Libyan prime minister, were indicating that it wasn't a demonstration against a video.

The FBI requested a change in language which originally stated the U.S. "knew" Islamic extremists participated in the attack. According to a U.S. intelligence official the wording was changed to "there are indications" Islamic extremists participated.

The initial version included information linking individuals involved in the attack to al Qaeda, according to a senior U.S. official familiar with the drafting of the talking points But when the document was sent to the rest of the intelligence community for review, there was a decision to change "al Qaeda" to "extremists." The official said the change was made for legitimate intelligence and legal reasons, not for political purposes.

The White House on Friday said it made only one change, substituting the word "mission" for "consulate."


Yea, saw that.

This isn't really hard to figure out: the Consulate was being used as cover for a CIA operation, and they needed a few days to clean that up without tipping their hand more than it already was.

So where's the scandal? I suppose some liberals would find using the State Department as cover for the CIA an outrage. I think it's a bad way to do things, but it's not like it hasn't been done that way for decades.
 
2012-11-19 10:47:23 PM

skullkrusher: Mikey1969: And what did she say that was so in competent?

She basically said that there had been demonstrations across the middle east that day, including one in Benghazi. She then went on to say that extremists took advantage of this, hijacked the protest and actually turned it into a terrorist attack.

Which is exactly what happened, and exactly what she said happened.

she said what she was told. That the attack was a spontaneous offshoot of protests about the movie. Turns out that this was not the case, apparently. She is not at fault, however.


You still haven't pointed to anything that says anything different.
 
2012-11-19 10:50:02 PM

MFAWG: skullkrusher: Mikey1969: And what did she say that was so in competent?

She basically said that there had been demonstrations across the middle east that day, including one in Benghazi. She then went on to say that extremists took advantage of this, hijacked the protest and actually turned it into a terrorist attack.

Which is exactly what happened, and exactly what she said happened.

she said what she was told. That the attack was a spontaneous offshoot of protests about the movie. Turns out that this was not the case, apparently. She is not at fault, however.

You still haven't pointed to anything that says anything different.


Still? I just entered the thread a few minutes ago and you're the first person to respond to something I said.
In any case, the current story is that this was a premeditated attack.
 
2012-11-19 10:50:03 PM

Apocalyptic Inferno: MFAWG: Apocalyptic Inferno: Obama had to have known Republicans would seize on this when he sent her out with the inaccurate Benghazi talking points. The administration has all but guaranteed she will not make it through a Senate confirmation.

Again, what is inaccurate about her talking points, which were signed off on by former Right Wing Demigod David David Petraeus.

I thought I heard the original intelligence from the CIA was altered for her statements to place more emphasis on reaction to a video and away from terrorist implications. Additionally, by the time she went on, many people, including the Libyan prime minister, were indicating that it wasn't a demonstration against a video.


It WAS a demonstration against the video.

It was a demonstration that was hijacked by terrorists. There had been other demonstrations that day, and the terrorists obviously saw an open window to drive down and start trouble. I don't understand why people can't understand this VERY SIMPLE concept.

That is unless the partisan wall is blocking their view of the situation.
 
2012-11-19 10:50:49 PM
Sounds like someone needs to be put out to pasture...
 
2012-11-19 10:50:50 PM

theknuckler_33: MSFT: theknuckler_33: MSFT: wongway: Just another

Bump in the road

Hey winterwhile, did your old account get banned or did it die of embarrassment?

Haha, but seriously, is that Nate Silver a genius or what? Boy did he make the kids at Fox "news" look stupid!

Best part? Forever!!

Feel like explaining the origin of the 'bump in the road' thing? I must have missed that one.

No idea, I just love calling out all the alts now that the election is over. His idiotic semantics and repetitive ellipses gave him away in another thread.

Oh, ok. Am I wrong that I have seen that 'bump in the road' thing more than just a few times from trolls recently? It seems to have become a thing.

/I use ellipses more frequently than I should...
//not an alt


Obama referred to Benghazi as a "bump in the road" one time which was immediately interpreted by the derpers as Obama not giving a shiat about those people who died.
 
2012-11-19 10:53:11 PM

error 303: Apocalyptic Inferno: MFAWG: Apocalyptic Inferno: Obama had to have known Republicans would seize on this when he sent her out with the inaccurate Benghazi talking points. The administration has all but guaranteed she will not make it through a Senate confirmation.

Again, what is inaccurate about her talking points, which were signed off on by former Right Wing Demigod David David Petraeus.

I thought I heard the original intelligence from the CIA was altered for her statements to place more emphasis on reaction to a video and away from terrorist implications. Additionally, by the time she went on, many people, including the Libyan prime minister, were indicating that it wasn't a demonstration against a video.

The FBI requested a change in language which originally stated the U.S. "knew" Islamic extremists participated in the attack. According to a U.S. intelligence official the wording was changed to "there are indications" Islamic extremists participated.

The initial version included information linking individuals involved in the attack to al Qaeda, according to a senior U.S. official familiar with the drafting of the talking points But when the document was sent to the rest of the intelligence community for review, there was a decision to change "al Qaeda" to "extremists." The official said the change was made for legitimate intelligence and legal reasons, not for political purposes.

The White House on Friday said it made only one change, substituting the word "mission" for "consulate."


Thank God we aren't dealing with a blow job.
 
2012-11-19 10:54:18 PM

Superjew: This from the guy who graduated near the bottom of his class at West Point, but wanted to be president anyway.


Imagine if Daddy hadn't been a big shot admiral
 
2012-11-19 10:54:25 PM
For fark's sake, even Fox News is running out of steam on the Benghazi dog and pony show, and they were the only ones who ever gave two shiats in the first place.
 
2012-11-19 10:55:54 PM

skullkrusher: she said what she was told. That the attack was a spontaneous offshoot of protests about the movie. Turns out that this was not the case, apparently. She is not at fault, however.


That's NOT what she said. Here's what she said:

But our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was a spontaneous - not a premeditated - response to what had transpired in Cairo. In Cairo, as you know, a few hours earlier, there was a violent protest that was undertaken in reaction to this very offensive video that was disseminated.

We believe that folks in Benghazi, a small number of people came to the embassy to - or to the consulate, rather, to replicate the sort of challenge that was posed in Cairo. And then as that unfolded, it seems to have been hijacked, let us say, by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons, weapons that as you know in - in the wake of the revolution in Libya are - are quite common and accessible. And it then evolved from there.


That's what she said. It started out as an actual protest, and then the terrorists crashed the party.

Which is exactly what happened. It wasn't "spontaneous", and she didn't say so. What she said was that the initial demonstration WAS spontaneous. The attack, on the other hand was not "spontaneous". It was a terrorist attack, most likely a contingency plan if they ever got a situation like this handed to them.
 
2012-11-19 10:57:13 PM

InmanRoshi: For fark's sake, even Fox News is running out of steam on the Benghazi dog and pony show, and they were the only ones who ever gave two shiats in the first place.


Yes, but now they're going to be able to block an appointment and show the base they're fighting the good fight.

Or something.
 
2012-11-19 10:58:45 PM
Rice should be fired.
 
2012-11-19 10:59:42 PM
He's going to put this fake scandal into a flat-spin and send it right into the ground.
 
2012-11-19 11:00:00 PM

thrgd456: Rice should be fired.


fried.
 
2012-11-19 11:00:22 PM

Mikey1969: skullkrusher: she said what she was told. That the attack was a spontaneous offshoot of protests about the movie. Turns out that this was not the case, apparently. She is not at fault, however.

That's NOT what she said. Here's what she said:

But our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was a spontaneous - not a premeditated - response to what had transpired in Cairo. In Cairo, as you know, a few hours earlier, there was a violent protest that was undertaken in reaction to this very offensive video that was disseminated.

We believe that folks in Benghazi, a small number of people came to the embassy to - or to the consulate, rather, to replicate the sort of challenge that was posed in Cairo. And then as that unfolded, it seems to have been hijacked, let us say, by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons, weapons that as you know in - in the wake of the revolution in Libya are - are quite common and accessible. And it then evolved from there.

That's what she said. It started out as an actual protest, and then the terrorists crashed the party.

Which is exactly what happened. It wasn't "spontaneous", and she didn't say so. What she said was that the initial demonstration WAS spontaneous. The attack, on the other hand was not "spontaneous". It was a terrorist attack, most likely a contingency plan if they ever got a situation like this handed to them.


that's the point - the initial CIA talking points was that this was a situation which escalated - "evolved" from - the protests. That is no longer what the story is. However, that's the story she was given so I don't see how she can be blamed for relaying the info she had
 
2012-11-19 11:01:11 PM

thrgd456: Rice should be fired.


For what reason? Being the target of yet another baseless Republican witch hunt?
 
2012-11-19 11:03:52 PM

Cpl.D: All who have lost all respect for McCain, say "Aye".


blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com

Aye.
 
2012-11-19 11:04:06 PM

thrgd456: Rice should be fired.


Why?
 
2012-11-19 11:06:58 PM
Dude, she ambassador to the UN. I'm sure she's perfectly qualified to cut the crusts off little cucumber sandwiches and serve tea to the wives while the men are out working the whore circuit.
 
2012-11-19 11:08:45 PM

skullkrusher: Mikey1969: skullkrusher: she said what she was told. That the attack was a spontaneous offshoot of protests about the movie. Turns out that this was not the case, apparently. She is not at fault, however.

That's NOT what she said. Here's what she said:

But our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was a spontaneous - not a premeditated - response to what had transpired in Cairo. In Cairo, as you know, a few hours earlier, there was a violent protest that was undertaken in reaction to this very offensive video that was disseminated.

We believe that folks in Benghazi, a small number of people came to the embassy to - or to the consulate, rather, to replicate the sort of challenge that was posed in Cairo. And then as that unfolded, it seems to have been hijacked, let us say, by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons, weapons that as you know in - in the wake of the revolution in Libya are - are quite common and accessible. And it then evolved from there.

That's what she said. It started out as an actual protest, and then the terrorists crashed the party.

Which is exactly what happened. It wasn't "spontaneous", and she didn't say so. What she said was that the initial demonstration WAS spontaneous. The attack, on the other hand was not "spontaneous". It was a terrorist attack, most likely a contingency plan if they ever got a situation like this handed to them.

that's the point - the initial CIA talking points was that this was a situation which escalated - "evolved" from - the protests. That is no longer what the story is. However, that's the story she was given so I don't see how she can be blamed for relaying the info she had


Ah, so now everybody agrees that:

The attack was a terrorist attack that evolved out of a protest over the video.

So, what is the outrage?
 
2012-11-19 11:09:33 PM

MFAWG: The attack was a terrorist attack that evolved out of a protest over the video.


No, I don't think anyone agrees with that anymore
 
2012-11-19 11:11:27 PM
ಠ_ಠ
 
2012-11-19 11:12:24 PM

FloydA: [i105.photobucket.com image 402x500]

At this point, I can no longer hold John McCain responsible for his own actions. He has lost his mind. As long as he can avoid voiding his bowels and bladder on the floor of the senate, I'll be impressed.

The voters of Arizona, however, I hold in complete contempt. Seriously, people, you put this obviously incapacitated, senile senior citizen in a position of power. What is wrong with you? It's not funny!


Arizona is MORE incompetent than FLORIDA. They still haven't finished counting the vote.
 
2012-11-19 11:12:41 PM

MFAWG: She appears to be referring to his inability to distinguish Sunni from shiate after we had been there 5 years


Awesome application of the filter.

But yeah, it's unbelievable how little the man knows about the Middle East. Wasn't surprised when I read this story:

On the grounds between the two brick colleges, the chitchat between the scion of four-star admirals and the son of a prizefighter turns to their academic travels; both colleges sponsor a trip abroad for young officers to network with military and political leaders in a distant corner of the globe.

"I'm going to the Middle East," Dramesi says. "Turkey, Kuwait, Lebanon, Iran."

"Why are you going to the Middle East?" McCain asks, dismissively.

"It's a place we're probably going to have some problems," Dramesi says.

"Why? Where are you going to, John?"

"Oh, I'm going to Rio."

"What the hell are you going to Rio for?"

McCain, a married father of three, shrugs.

"I got a better chance of getting laid."
 
2012-11-19 11:15:17 PM

skullkrusher: MFAWG: The attack was a terrorist attack that evolved out of a protest over the video.

No, I don't think anyone agrees with that anymore


But it's what you just said? I'm sorry, I'm just really, really confused as to what the fark the GOP is on about.
 
2012-11-19 11:15:54 PM
I just recently saw McCain's captured flightsuit on display at a prison in Hanoi. Talk about an empty suit!
 
2012-11-19 11:16:25 PM

wongway: Just another

Bump in the road


Forever?

McCain didn't call her a Trollop yet so there's that.
 
2012-11-19 11:16:48 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: He keeps this up and people will forget that McCain wasn't always on the wrong side of every story and issue.


One of the very few vocal nationally elected representatives who opposed giving a national holiday dedicated to the legacy of Martin Luther King. Supported all of Reagan's nefarious meddling in the world. Personally met with and supported Augusto Pincohet. A member of the Keating 5.

Maybe not always on the the wrong side of every issue, but damn near close.

Mainly what he is, more than anything, is an egomaniac who enjoys employing a contrarian vendetta and thorn in the side to anyone he thinks has wronged him. This might given the appearance that he's a "maverick" or "independent" when he's doing it to the GOP, but mainly he's just playing troll. If he were a TV character, he would be Major Valchek from The Wire. 

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-19 11:18:14 PM

Shaggy_C: Didn't Roosevelt have a different VP every one of his four terms?


The VP is Cabinet-level. But not part of the actual Cabinet. I didn't count VP's. (Besides, they fall outside of the window, since any VP change would come before Election Day.)
 
2012-11-19 11:21:00 PM

MFAWG: skullkrusher: MFAWG: The attack was a terrorist attack that evolved out of a protest over the video.

No, I don't think anyone agrees with that anymore

But it's what you just said? I'm sorry, I'm just really, really confused as to what the fark the GOP is on about.


That's what Rice initially said because that was the info she was given. It has come out since then that the CIA had info that the attack was the work of terrorist planning rather than a spontaneous escalation of a protest. The GOP wants to nail Rice for something over which she had no control. However, even Dianne Feinstein, while defending Rice's comments as an honest relaying of the info she had and saying the WH had no role in massaging the points, wants to know why the CIA talking points were inaccurate at the outset.
 
2012-11-19 11:22:20 PM
Old herpers never die, they just derp away.
 
2012-11-19 11:27:21 PM

skullkrusher: MFAWG: skullkrusher: MFAWG: The attack was a terrorist attack that evolved out of a protest over the video.

No, I don't think anyone agrees with that anymore

But it's what you just said? I'm sorry, I'm just really, really confused as to what the fark the GOP is on about.

That's what Rice initially said because that was the info she was given. It has come out since then that the CIA had info that the attack was the work of terrorist planning rather than a spontaneous escalation of a protest. The GOP wants to nail Rice for something over which she had no control. However, even Dianne Feinstein, while defending Rice's comments as an honest relaying of the info she had and saying the WH had no role in massaging the points, wants to know why the CIA talking points were inaccurate at the outset.


I actually watched Feinstein yesterday.

So there was no protest? A couple of cars full of heavily armed men just showed up out of the blew and opened fire on the compound?
 
2012-11-19 11:28:36 PM

thrgd456: Rice should be fired.


Well, thanks for giving us the birther perspective.
 
2012-11-19 11:31:48 PM

skylabdown: The WH knew the truth about the attacks and made a conscience decision to send out a purposely mis-informed surrogate to deliver a known non-truth. (to them, not her.)


And thus the question must be asked: "So?"
 
2012-11-19 11:32:23 PM

MFAWG: skullkrusher: MFAWG: skullkrusher: MFAWG: The attack was a terrorist attack that evolved out of a protest over the video.

No, I don't think anyone agrees with that anymore

But it's what you just said? I'm sorry, I'm just really, really confused as to what the fark the GOP is on about.

That's what Rice initially said because that was the info she was given. It has come out since then that the CIA had info that the attack was the work of terrorist planning rather than a spontaneous escalation of a protest. The GOP wants to nail Rice for something over which she had no control. However, even Dianne Feinstein, while defending Rice's comments as an honest relaying of the info she had and saying the WH had no role in massaging the points, wants to know why the CIA talking points were inaccurate at the outset.

I actually watched Feinstein yesterday.

So there was no protest? A couple of cars full of heavily armed men just showed up out of the blew and opened fire on the compound?


not seeing where the disconnect here is. At some point there was a question of whether there was a protest at all but I think that's gone away. There was a protest. The terrorist attack on the consulate was not an organic offshoot of that but rather something that they'd been planning. Whether they used the protest as a cover or it was just a happy coincidence, I have not seen speculation on
 
2012-11-19 11:35:55 PM
www.boatnerd.com
 
2012-11-19 11:39:12 PM
McCain worked for a convicted felon who was tied directly to the Mafia AND WHO ILLEGALLY HELD A LIQUOR LICENSE.

McCain married the guy's daughter Cindy. Yes, that Cindy McCain.

McCain either can't tell who is a good person or he can and then chooses the bad guys instead. Either way, he has no business trying to judge others.
 
2012-11-19 11:40:49 PM

skullkrusher: MFAWG: skullkrusher: MFAWG: skullkrusher: MFAWG: The attack was a terrorist attack that evolved out of a protest over the video.

No, I don't think anyone agrees with that anymore

But it's what you just said? I'm sorry, I'm just really, really confused as to what the fark the GOP is on about.

That's what Rice initially said because that was the info she was given. It has come out since then that the CIA had info that the attack was the work of terrorist planning rather than a spontaneous escalation of a protest. The GOP wants to nail Rice for something over which she had no control. However, even Dianne Feinstein, while defending Rice's comments as an honest relaying of the info she had and saying the WH had no role in massaging the points, wants to know why the CIA talking points were inaccurate at the outset.

I actually watched Feinstein yesterday.

So there was no protest? A couple of cars full of heavily armed men just showed up out of the blew and opened fire on the compound?

not seeing where the disconnect here is. At some point there was a question of whether there was a protest at all but I think that's gone away. There was a protest. The terrorist attack on the consulate was not an organic offshoot of that but rather something that they'd been planning. Whether they used the protest as a cover or it was just a happy coincidence, I have not seen speculation on


The disconnect is that no reasonable person sees any meaningful difference between the protest being staged for cover or simply used as cover.

So, who wants beer?
 
2012-11-19 11:41:05 PM

MFAWG: skullkrusher: Mikey1969: skullkrusher: she said what she was told. That the attack was a spontaneous offshoot of protests about the movie. Turns out that this was not the case, apparently. She is not at fault, however.

That's NOT what she said. Here's what she said:

But our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was a spontaneous - not a premeditated - response to what had transpired in Cairo. In Cairo, as you know, a few hours earlier, there was a violent protest that was undertaken in reaction to this very offensive video that was disseminated.

We believe that folks in Benghazi, a small number of people came to the embassy to - or to the consulate, rather, to replicate the sort of challenge that was posed in Cairo. And then as that unfolded, it seems to have been hijacked, let us say, by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons, weapons that as you know in - in the wake of the revolution in Libya are - are quite common and accessible. And it then evolved from there.

That's what she said. It started out as an actual protest, and then the terrorists crashed the party.

Which is exactly what happened. It wasn't "spontaneous", and she didn't say so. What she said was that the initial demonstration WAS spontaneous. The attack, on the other hand was not "spontaneous". It was a terrorist attack, most likely a contingency plan if they ever got a situation like this handed to them.

that's the point - the initial CIA talking points was that this was a situation which escalated - "evolved" from - the protests. That is no longer what the story is. However, that's the story she was given so I don't see how she can be blamed for relaying the info she had

Ah, so now everybody agrees that:

The attack was a terrorist attack that evolved out of a protest over the video.

So, what is the outrage?


Do you really have to ask?

emergency-pants.net
 
2012-11-19 11:44:16 PM
How about you get back to legislating instead of chumming the political waters with your batin'.
 
2012-11-19 11:48:46 PM

theknuckler_33: The GOP is simply obscene at this point. Utterly and unapologetically obscene.


Absolutely. I really can't believe ANYONE thinks there is the slightest shred of honesty in this orgy of manufactured outrage.

As usual, there's a hoary old saying that nails the situation perfectly: "Any stick is good enough to beat a dog with."

McCain's history is a litany of utter shamefulness, punctuated with unpredictable moments of decency and astuteness that have become more and more rare in the past few years.
 
2012-11-19 11:49:33 PM
weirdthings.com

Really? So that's it? They confused this with other protests, that were going on at the same time? Then they got more intel?

So, what do we call that?
Time-lag-gate?
Fog-of-War-gate?
This-just-in-gate?

Okay, anything important happening up the hill? Anything?
Bueller?
 
2012-11-19 11:51:35 PM

MFAWG: The disconnect is that no reasonable person sees any meaningful difference between the protest being staged for cover or simply used as cover.


well, there's actually a huge difference. There's not much that can be done to thwart a spontaneous attack from an intel perspective whereas an attack that is being planned ahead of time does present that sort of opportunity for infiltration and prevention.

The immediate issue here is whether Susan Rice did anything wrong. Apparently, no, she didn't and McCain and others are wrong to blame her.

MFAWG: So, who wants beer?


me
 
2012-11-20 12:02:04 AM

skullkrusher: MFAWG: The disconnect is that no reasonable person sees any meaningful difference between the protest being staged for cover or simply used as cover.

well, there's actually a huge difference. There's not much that can be done to thwart a spontaneous attack from an intel perspective whereas an attack that is being planned ahead of time does present that sort of opportunity for infiltration and prevention.

The immediate issue here is whether Susan Rice did anything wrong. Apparently, no, she didn't and McCain and others are wrong to blame her.

MFAWG: So, who wants beer?

me


skullkrusher: MFAWG: The disconnect is that no reasonable person sees any meaningful difference between the protest being staged for cover or simply used as cover.

well, there's actually a huge difference. There's not much that can be done to thwart a spontaneous attack from an intel perspective whereas an attack that is being planned ahead of time does present that sort of opportunity for infiltration and prevention.


Why would the CIA, State Department, or anyone else go on TV and admit we had that level of infiltration into local branches of Al Qaeda, anywhere in the world?
 
2012-11-20 12:04:09 AM

MFAWG: Why would the CIA, State Department, or anyone else go on TV and admit we had that level of infiltration into local branches of Al Qaeda, anywhere in the world?


They wouldn't. That's not the point. You said no reasonable person sees a difference between a spontaneous attack and a pre-planned one. A reasonable person would see the difference. No one is talking about outing intel operatives in AQ
 
2012-11-20 12:09:28 AM

skullkrusher: MFAWG: Why would the CIA, State Department, or anyone else go on TV and admit we had that level of infiltration into local branches of Al Qaeda, anywhere in the world?

They wouldn't. That's not the point. You said no reasonable person sees a difference between a spontaneous attack and a pre-planned one. A reasonable person would see the difference. No one is talking about outing intel operatives in AQ


Why did you misquote me? I said no meaningful difference. It doesn't matter how the protest started, it's what was used as cover to get the attackers into place.

There ARE legitimate questions here, but how the protest originated isn't one of them. And all of this has not much to do with Ms. Rice. Her statement is substantially accurate.
 
2012-11-20 12:13:00 AM

MFAWG: Why did you misquote me? I said no meaningful difference. It doesn't matter how the protest started, it's what was used as cover to get the attackers into place.


whatever dude, there's obviously a meaningful difference between a spontaneous attack and a pre-planned one

MFAWG: There ARE legitimate questions here, but how the protest originated isn't one of them. And all of this has not much to do with Ms. Rice. Her statement is substantially accurate.


the origins of the protest haven't been the point of the thing. No, her statement was not substantially accurate but it doesn't matter to this point because she didn't know it wasn't substantially accurate. DF wants to know why it wasn't substantially accurate. McCain and others want to blame Rice presumably for political gain
 
2012-11-20 12:21:52 AM
i.huffpost.com25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-11-20 12:23:10 AM
McCaine needs to go on vacation early and maintain radio silence until February.
 
2012-11-20 12:31:13 AM
I think your time as a credible public servant is over, flyboy.
 
2012-11-20 12:47:22 AM

djkutch: brigid_fitch: I used to respect McCain. I was even close to forgiving him for being a part of the Keating 5. He was a decent senator and a seemed a genuinely honest, common-sense guy.

I think prolonged exposure to Palin broke his brain.

He's heading home to AZ after a long and difficult march. Many years as a POW (while supplied with hookers according to Jerome Corsi). Decades as a politician didn't soften the blows to existing bruises. He's a complex man. I have hope for a competent biographer.


Corsi is a major league douchebag and nothing he says is credible.
 
2012-11-20 12:53:02 AM

skylabdown: The WH knew the truth about the attacks and made a conscience decision to send out a purposely mis-informed surrogate to deliver a known non-truth. (to them, not her.)


....or the intelligence community approved those points (keeping back some info for various strategic and operational reasons) and passed them on to the White House, then she spoke from the provided points.
 
2012-11-20 12:56:57 AM

Shaggy_C: Gosling: Cabinet turnover wasn't much of a thing until Nixon did a housecleaning, and now it's just par for the course to see a bunch of people leave.

Didn't Roosevelt have a different VP every one of his four terms?

BitwiseShift: He was such a good Astronaut. And he married a beer baroness. 

[www.buzzlol.com image 369x450]


That's genius.
 
2012-11-20 01:02:06 AM

Sgt Otter: I was in Iraq when he claimed Baghdad was safe as an Indiana farmers' market, and that was when we were losing four guys a DAY in Iraq.


They should have installed better pylons in that farmers market's parking lot.
 
2012-11-20 01:09:32 AM
Wait the GOP -- the party of ZOMFG WMDS!!1!1!!! -- is criticizing Rice of poor intelligence interpretation?

LOLWUT!?
 
2012-11-20 01:36:35 AM

jasimo: skylabdown: The WH knew the truth about the attacks and made a conscience decision to send out a purposely mis-informed surrogate to deliver a known non-truth. (to them, not her.)

....or the intelligence community approved those points (keeping back some info for various strategic and operational reasons) and passed them on to the White House, then she spoke from the provided points.


That's basically how I see it. Don't hinder an ongoing investigation. Republicans will out everybody if it means they can scream about President Obama.
 
2012-11-20 01:38:37 AM
John McCain is an angry loser.
 
2012-11-20 01:39:43 AM

lohphat: Sgt Otter: I was in Iraq when he claimed Baghdad was safe as an Indiana farmers' market, and that was when we were losing four guys a DAY in Iraq.

They should have installed better pylons in that farmers market's parking lot.


Baghdad must construct additional pylons.
 
2012-11-20 01:54:50 AM

cameroncrazy1984: lohphat: Sgt Otter: I was in Iraq when he claimed Baghdad was safe as an Indiana farmers' market, and that was when we were losing four guys a DAY in Iraq.

They should have installed better pylons in that farmers market's parking lot.

Baghdad must construct additional pylons.


Look, McCain knows better than anyone: if you don't want to be run over by old people then don't go to the Farmer's Market.
 
2012-11-20 02:18:14 AM

Blue_Blazer: jasimo: skylabdown: The WH knew the truth about the attacks and made a conscience decision to send out a purposely mis-informed surrogate to deliver a known non-truth. (to them, not her.)

....or the intelligence community approved those points (keeping back some info for various strategic and operational reasons) and passed them on to the White House, then she spoke from the provided points.

That's basically how I see it. Don't hinder an ongoing investigation. Republicans will out everybody if it means they can scream about President Obama.


The idea that perhaps it would be better not to compromise assets in a sensitive location seems to be lost on the Republicans at this point. Kind of like when they outed Valerie Plame, and nevermind that at least four agents in Russia disappeared, never to be heard from again. But at least somebody got embarassed, amirite?
 
2012-11-20 02:38:24 AM

Karma Curmudgeon: thrgd456: Rice should be fired.

fried.


flied
 
2012-11-20 02:46:31 AM

Jorn the Younger: Karma Curmudgeon: thrgd456: Rice should be fired.

fried.

flied


Could that be put on a flyer?
 
2012-11-20 03:50:19 AM

skullkrusher: MFAWG: The attack was a terrorist attack that evolved out of a protest over the video.

No, I don't think anyone agrees with that anymore


Y'all can't act like the video was inconsequential:

i.imgur.com

i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-20 04:12:00 AM
www.washingtonpost.com
 
2012-11-20 04:27:15 AM
Something about being part of the either the cover up on Benghazi or part of the gross incompetence sort of disqualifies her.

And your continued lamenting over Palin's lack of 'experience as VICE president when you voted for the least qualified and least experienced PRESIDENT in history in the form of Obama? Really? You're going there?
 
2012-11-20 04:31:38 AM

KrispyKritter: brigid_fitch: I used to respect McCain. I was even close to forgiving him for being a part of the Keating 5. He was a decent senator and a seemed a genuinely honest, common-sense guy.

I think prolonged exposure to Palin broke his brain.

i suspect subby is misled. i think Palin was force-fed upon McCain by those in party who backed her with big money from early on. pretty face, camera whore, but their eternal erection made them forget she could barely Alaska. yes, she did break McCain. the VC couldn't do it but Cougar for Congress proved to be the human Viagra that broke the piggy bank. damn shame, he was a good man and a true patriot. somebody shoulda kept momma off that flag pole.


The worst part of the whole situation IMO is the reason they chose Palin in the first place. They assumed since Hillary didn't get the Dem nomination that there would be a whole bunch of women who would throw away everything that they believed in order to vote for another pair of candidates with a woman on the ticket. First off, it demonstrates an utter disdain for all women by assuming that they would simply vote with their vagina, but that disdain is nothing new Secondly, if they absolutely had to play the vagina vote card, it seems like they went out of their way to choose they least qualified person possible. Palin was stupid, duplicitous, petty, lazy, closed minded, hypocritical, had a long history of corruption and crimes behind her. She didn't have a single redeeming characteristic. Honestly, I have to believe that whoever made that choice did so to throw the election. And while I am ever so grateful that we got Obama as president, he came at the cost of releasing this phycho hose beast upon us. It was worth it, but talk about a double edged sword.
Anyways my point was that everything they did was disgusting, from their reasoning behind choosing a woman for VP to who they chose. god the GOP sucks.
 
2012-11-20 04:58:08 AM
Shut up, John McCain, you cock!
 
2012-11-20 05:43:08 AM

Granny_Panties: \That's funny, no mention of a video on Youtube or riots. The only type of "attack" mentioned was "terror". Hmmmmmmmm weird.


Well you see, the Republicans over the last 4+ years have made it clear that it's not fair to use their own words against them, verbatim, in context. Not because it's misleading, but because it makes them look bad and that's not fair. In the same vein it's not okay for the Democrats to use *their* own words, verbatim, in context because that makes the Dems look good and it makes the Republicans look bad which isn't allowed or fair as mentioned before. The Dems are only allowed to say things that make their petulant, cry-baby, temper-tantrum throwing, gridlock-cuz-the-president-is-near look good. It's only fair, especially since everyone knows you can only trust conservative outlets of news and reports, because anything else is truthful and grounded in reality and that makes it liberal and unfair and wrong,
 
2012-11-20 05:48:36 AM
 
2012-11-20 06:51:08 AM
I don't feel like looking this up this early in the morning, but I thought the prez's cabinet was his and his alone to pick.
 
2012-11-20 06:53:14 AM
glossynews.com
 
2012-11-20 06:58:31 AM

Sock Ruh Tease: Grungehamster: So, what is his explanation of what makes her unqualified for the Secretary of State position?

Susan Rice is not a potential Secretary of State that would have to give up a Democratic seat of the Senate (like John Kerry, who Republicans amazingly support for Secretary of State!).


Oh, THERE it is.
 
2012-11-20 07:07:56 AM
Yeah, I had a great deal of respect for the man once.
 
2012-11-20 07:13:33 AM
My wife went to the 2000 GOP convention as a delegate for him. She has no respect for him any longer.
 
2012-11-20 07:18:24 AM
The responsible people in the GOP are already talking about pulling the plug on all this bullshiat - and soon, they will be looking at poll numbers that will tell them how the majority of Americans feel about this deliberate and malicious monkeywrenching. In a month we will not be talking about this.
i18.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-20 07:28:01 AM
Time for McCain to step down, he's clearly lost sight of his responsibilities to his country.

/maybe we can start a petition...
 
2012-11-20 07:49:33 AM
McCain didn't pick Palin. Arch-Neocon Bill Kristol did. McCain is again listening to his warmongering Neocon buddies, like Leiberman and Graham, in calling-out Rice for not killing enough Arabs in Benghazi.

Surely he's really really really a believer in Jeffersonian Democracy taking hold and flowering in the Islamic world?

That or he just want's to set up the conditions necessary for Israel to be 'justified' in attacking all those countries who've democratically elected Islamist governments in the not-so-distant future.
 
2012-11-20 08:03:50 AM

FlashHarry: he really is trying to destroy what's left of his legacy, isn't he?


He has already reduced his legacy to a size where it can be drowned in a bathtub.

I honestly believe he used to be a good man. Year of politics and cynical GOP tactics have left only a bitter unethical old coot.
 
2012-11-20 08:39:13 AM

SpectroBoy: FlashHarry: he really is trying to destroy what's left of his legacy, isn't he?

He has already reduced his legacy to a size where it can be drowned in a bathtub.

I honestly believe he used to be a good man. Year of politics and cynical GOP tactics have left only a bitter unethical old coot.


AND IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII WILL ALWAAAAAAAAAYS LOVE YOUUUUUUUUUUUuuuuuuUUUUUUUUUuuuuuuuUUUUUUUUUUUU OHHHHHH.....
 
2012-11-20 08:48:24 AM

theknuckler_33: MSFT: wongway: Just another

Bump in the road

Hey winterwhile, did your old account get banned or did it die of embarrassment?

Haha, but seriously, is that Nate Silver a genius or what? Boy did he make the kids at Fox "news" look stupid!

Best part? Forever!!

Feel like explaining the origin of the 'bump in the road' thing? I must have missed that one.


The freepers say Obama said that about the Benghazi incident. Don't know if he did or not.
 
2012-11-20 08:55:17 AM

Uchiha_Cycliste: KrispyKritter: brigid_fitch: I used to respect McCain. I was even close to forgiving him for being a part of the Keating 5. He was a decent senator and a seemed a genuinely honest, common-sense guy.

I think prolonged exposure to Palin broke his brain.

i suspect subby is misled. i think Palin was force-fed upon McCain by those in party who backed her with big money from early on. pretty face, camera whore, but their eternal erection made them forget she could barely Alaska. yes, she did break McCain. the VC couldn't do it but Cougar for Congress proved to be the human Viagra that broke the piggy bank. damn shame, he was a good man and a true patriot. somebody shoulda kept momma off that flag pole.

The worst part of the whole situation IMO is the reason they chose Palin in the first place. They assumed since Hillary didn't get the Dem nomination that there would be a whole bunch of women who would throw away everything that they believed in order to vote for another pair of candidates with a woman on the ticket. First off, it demonstrates an utter disdain for all women by assuming that they would simply vote with their vagina, but that disdain is nothing new Secondly, if they absolutely had to play the vagina vote card, it seems like they went out of their way to choose they least qualified person possible. Palin was stupid, duplicitous, petty, lazy, closed minded, hypocritical, had a long history of corruption and crimes behind her. She didn't have a single redeeming characteristic. Honestly, I have to believe that whoever made that choice did so to throw the election. And while I am ever so grateful that we got Obama as president, he came at the cost of releasing this phycho hose beast upon us. It was worth it, but talk about a double edged sword.
Anyways my point was that everything they did was disgusting, from their reasoning behind choosing a woman for VP to who they chose. god the GOP sucks.


The 50+ women in the Dem office I was working at all were worried that would happen, actually (women will vote for her blah blah older school folks who had all voted for H Clinton in the primaries). I really thought it was going to be Crist or a moderate... so I googled Palin and in 5 minutes told the office not to worry. To be fair, Palin exceeded my expectations. ..
 
2012-11-20 08:58:44 AM

randomjsa: Something about being part of the either the cover up on Benghazi or part of the gross incompetence sort of disqualifies her.

And your continued lamenting over Palin's lack of 'experience as VICE president when you voted for the least qualified and least experienced PRESIDENT in history in the form of Obama? Really? You're going there?


Lincoln had very similar experience (as a lawyer and in government) prior to being elected.

Was Lincoln unqualified for the presidency?
 
2012-11-20 08:58:48 AM
I can't recall such an effort to make hay out of something like this being such an utter failure.

The RW media (and that's a big operation) spent an awful lot of air time over several weeks trying to make this into something.

Problem is, it's not a scandal and the more info that comes out about this the more silly RWers look.
They don't seem to notice, they don't even change up their chants of "cover-up!" and "incompetence!" even after their stories to back up those assertions have been debunked.

The RW has a sickness, they have to take Obama out even if it means they must create their own reality in which this can happen. I expect at some point over the next four years they'll have an impeachment and new election all by themselves at FOX studios.

sorry RWers you're going to have to wall yourselves off better than this if you want to keep reality from ruining your fun.
 
2012-11-20 09:48:05 AM
Superjew 2012-11-19 09:02:58 PM ......This from the guy who graduated near the bottom of his class at West Point, but wanted to be president anyway.

I thought he was a graduate of the Naval Academy
 
2012-11-20 10:18:52 AM
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2012-11-20 10:48:52 AM

randomjsa: Something about being part of the either the cover up on Benghazi or part of the gross incompetence sort of disqualifies her.

And your continued lamenting over Palin's lack of 'experience as VICE president when you voted for the least qualified and least experienced PRESIDENT in history in the form of Obama? Really? You're going there?


Well. Rice repeating inaccurate talking points regarding the spontaneity of an attack correct a few days later is not a scandal and it would be her scandal anyways even if it was a scandal which it isn't.

Finally, what ignorant partisan shills like yourself think about it, is completely irrelevant. No one cares. Adults are controlling the conversation today and you are just static.
 
2012-11-20 10:52:13 AM

unexplained bacon: I can't recall such an effort to make hay out of something like this being such an utter failure.

The RW media (and that's a big operation) spent an awful lot of air time over several weeks trying to make this into something.

Problem is, it's not a scandal and the more info that comes out about this the more silly RWers look.
They don't seem to notice, they don't even change up their chants of "cover-up!" and "incompetence!" even after their stories to back up those assertions have been debunked.

The RW has a sickness, they have to take Obama out even if it means they must create their own reality in which this can happen. I expect at some point over the next four years they'll have an impeachment and new election all by themselves at FOX studios.

sorry RWers you're going to have to wall yourselves off better than this if you want to keep reality from ruining your fun.


The other best example I think of trying to make something out of nothing was the outrage over Obama not wearing a tie in the Oval Office. They worked themselves into quite the farking lather over that one until someone simply posted a picture of a white President without a tie in the same office. The Backward's B chick was farking amusing also.
 
2012-11-20 11:29:05 AM
Palin had and has FAR more accomplishments and qualifications than Rice:

Link

At least Palin's not a robot mouthpiece for a douchebag of a President.
 
2012-11-20 11:38:28 AM

tony41454: Palin had and has FAR more accomplishments and qualifications than Rice:
.


BWAHAHAHA!
Oh man, that is awesome. People still pining for Sarah after all these years... hey, maybe if you get in shape for the 10 year reunion she'll dance with you! No, really! Then you can tell her about how much you've changed since high school now that you're managing TWO self-storage locations out in Homer.

Yeah, two locations! Hey, maybe you got some stuff you need storing, Sarah? No? Well, you know, keep in mind, OK?

lololololollolol
 
2012-11-20 11:38:57 AM
We get it.She's black. And she doesn't seem very American. Heck, she married a white Canadian. And just look at her mongrel children. You can't easily tell that they are black too.

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-11-20 11:44:52 AM
So Romney WAS conservative enough and we're NOT a nation of mostly takers and Victoria Jackson is going to apologize?
 
2012-11-20 11:47:28 AM
Wrong thread.
 
2012-11-20 12:00:05 PM

tony41454: Palin had and has FAR more accomplishments and qualifications than Rice:

Link

At least Palin's not a robot mouthpiece for a douchebag of a President.


I have you marked as the one link wonder...

You never fail to fail.

Shes married Tony, and doesn't seem like the cheating kind... but maybe just maaaaybe you could get her to QUIT her marriage?
 
2012-11-20 12:08:41 PM

Raharu: tony41454: Palin had and has FAR more accomplishments and qualifications than Rice:

Link

At least Palin's not a robot mouthpiece for a douchebag of a President.

I have you marked as the one link wonder...

You never fail to fail.

Shes married Tony, and doesn't seem like the cheating kind... but maybe just maaaaybe you could get her to QUIT her marriage?


Well, she does have a soft spot for kids with the downs!
 
2012-11-20 12:44:53 PM

tony41454: Palin had and has FAR more accomplishments and qualifications than Rice:

Link

At least Palin's not a robot mouthpiece for a douchebag of a President.


i887.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-20 01:27:35 PM

fusillade762: McCain's been pissed at Rice since she said mean things about him during the 2008 campaign. Guy can hold a grudge, that's for sure.

"His tendency is to shoot first and ask first questions later, it is dangerous and we can't afford four more years of this reckless foreign policy," Susan Rice said to reporters about McCain in August 2008.

"On critical, factual questions that are fundamental to understanding what is going on in Iraq and the region, Senator McCain has gotten it wrong and not just once but repeatedly," said Rice in June 2008.


That's actually the best explanation for this I've heard so far. That and him not being able to head any more committees unless he creates a new one to investigate Bengazi. An old bitter man clawing at his last fleeting bits of relevancy.
 
2012-11-21 04:22:42 AM

tony41454: At least Palin's not a robot mouthpiece for a douchebag of a President.


i293.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-21 02:12:57 PM

MFAWG: fusillade762: McCain's been pissed at Rice since she said mean things about him during the 2008 campaign. Guy can hold a grudge, that's for sure.

"His tendency is to shoot first and ask first questions later, it is dangerous and we can't afford four more years of this reckless foreign policy," Susan Rice said to reporters about McCain in August 2008.

"On critical, factual questions that are fundamental to understanding what is going on in Iraq and the region, Senator McCain has gotten it wrong and not just once but repeatedly," said Rice in June 2008.

She appears to be referring to his inability to distinguish Sunni from shiate after we had been there 5 years


... inability to distinguish shiate from Sunnola

/so very sorry
//late as usual
 
2012-11-23 01:57:09 AM

tony41454: Palin had and has FAR more accomplishments and qualifications than Rice:

Link

At least Palin's not a robot mouthpiece for a douchebag of a President.


Yeah, but Palin's a vapid bimbo.
 
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