AntonChigger: ConConHead: moothemagiccow: Horses, goats, chickens and sheepThis is going to be the worst adaptation of all time. Remember that bit where Bilbo and the gang visited a petting zoo? No? Well it's in the movie anyway.Yeah, cause no Hobbit in their right mind would dare keep livestock on their farm. WTF is up with all these changes for the sake of the cinema?!Really? Worst of all time? Grow up bro
jimw: Well, I guess that the standard disclaimer, "No animals were harmed or injured during the making of this movie" will be missing from this film.
TeDDD: So, wait, the animals kept falling into the sinkholes?Were they stabling blind horses?
AdolfOliverPanties: Peter Jackson sez:The producers completely reject the accusations that twenty seven animals died due to mistreatment during the making of the films. Extraordinary measures were taken to make sure that animals were not used during action sequences or any other sequence that might create undue stress for the animals involved. Over fifty five per cent of all shots using animals in The Hobbit are in fact computer generated; this includes horses, ponies, rabbits, hedgehogs, birds, deer, elk, mice, wild boars, and wolves.The American Humane Association (AHA) was on hand to monitor all use of animals by the production. No animals died or were harmed on set during filming.We regret that some of these accusations by wranglers who were dismissed from the film over a year ago are only now being brought to our attention.
lalolalona: Hot Carl To Go: I really love animals and this sucks.However the truth is that the director could walk into my house, slap my wife, shiat on the floor, and kick my dogs on the way out and I would still pay to see the Hobbit.Pretty much this.
stoli n coke: Eh, given that people used to die regularly during the making of the big epics of the 50s and 60s, I'm not really bothered that a few chickens got choked.
brandent: jimw: Well, I guess that the standard disclaimer, "No animals were harmed or injured during the making of this movie" will be missing from this film.Read the article. That's still the truth. They died on farms not in filming or on any set. It will likely still be there. I'm going to be looking for it though to see if they still put it there.
cryinoutloud: TeDDD: So, wait, the animals kept falling into the sinkholes?Were they stabling blind horses?[1.bp.blogspot.com image 400x400]
TeDDD: Oh, there's an AP article linked right in THIS article which gives a rough breakdown of what died and how. Two horses fell off things, one horse died of either a blood clot or exploded insides, six sheep and goats fell off things, got worms, or got bad feed, and a dozen chickens were mauled by dogs.Wait... that's only 20 or 21 animals. Was it six sheep and six goats? Bah, I don't want to reread it, someone else find out.
Fano: A hedgehog was also killed.
MrHappyRotter: The animals aren't dead. They're just sleeping.
baka-san: Horses, goats, chickens and sheep died on the farmsOk, how many of the 27 where chickens, cause they don't count.Wranglers have now come forward to claim they warned the production about the treacherous terrain, but were rebuffed.Who in the production? Who of the thousands of people who work on a production of this size directly or indirectly? Bankers? Gaffers? Who?Article is a little slim on details.
gaspode: The people protesting this want all animals to be set free.
Blue_Blazer: [25.media.tumblr.com image 300x232]Too soon?I need more facts before i get too outraged. Is this common?
mediablitz: PETA is pretesting the deaths of 27 animals?!?!?They kill THOUSANDS of animals every year. Why aren't they protesting themselves?There is no bigger group of hypocrites than PETA members.
Aboleth: Fano: A hedgehog was also killed.Well he was asking for it!
if_i_really_have_to: brandent: jimw: Well, I guess that the standard disclaimer, "No animals were harmed or injured during the making of this movie" will be missing from this film.Read the article. That's still the truth. They died on farms not in filming or on any set. It will likely still be there. I'm going to be looking for it though to see if they still put it there.I always got the impression most animals are owned and maintained by the trainers and therefore it would their responsibility to see them safe off set, not the production's. Surely this is a matter addressed in the contract with whomever they are renting the animals from? Productions don't usually just flat out buy a bunch of animals, do they? I actually don't know, maybe the do sometimes.Anyway, sheep died? Oh noes! Do you know how many sheep die just from unseasonable weather in a year in NZ? It seems like a year doesn't go by that farmers aren't whining because half their lambs died because it snowed early and once again they haven't provided any shelter in the lambing paddocks.As for sheep and goats dying because of rough terrain. Are they... are they serious? Do they know where sheep and goats normally live? Do they think farm paddocks are normally like a football field, all smooth and perfect? Have they seen a goat run up a cliff face? Have the seen the high paddocks sheep get left alone in for weeks at a time?I don't have too much to do with horses, but I would have thought they knew not to step off cliffs. Maybe not, they're pretty dumb as far as animals go. We have wild horses in New Zealand, who's keeping them away from cliffs?It's definitely important to take care of animals in film productions and they should be housed humanely. But this comes off as another case of PETA being a bunch of ignorant city dwellers looking for a story to beat up in the media.
airsupport: Seriously, aren't you guys a little old for hobbits and shiat?
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I created this alt just for this thread: airsupport: Seriously, aren't you guys a little old for hobbits and shiat?Oh cool, we get to dust this quote off again."Critics who treat adult as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." ~ C.S. Lewistl;dr version: Accusing others of being childish because of their choice of entertainment is usually a sign of projection.
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