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(Newser)   Elmo Accuser Recants His Recant   (newser.com) divider line 199
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2012-11-19 01:12:22 PM  
Looks like this scumbag wants more money.
 
2012-11-19 01:14:59 PM  
Justice needs to be served one way or the other, but...

Last week, the Smoking Gun took a look at Stephens, a struggling model/actor who has been arrested a few times on charges ranging from passing a bad check to reckless driving to robbing a former employer at knifepoint.

...the accuser isn't exactly holding a strong hand.
 
2012-11-19 01:15:38 PM  

Cythraul: Looks like this scumbag wants more money.


No. Looks like he was paid off to change his story (it's a fact he was as the article states) and it was eating at him.
 
2012-11-19 01:16:51 PM  

Cythraul: Looks like this scumbag wants more money.


Nickel (and Dime) Me Elmo
 
2012-11-19 01:19:30 PM  

Walker: Cythraul: Looks like this scumbag wants more money.

No. Looks like he was paid off to change his story (it's a fact he was as the article states) and it was eating at him.


That's an interpretation. I could just as easily interpret that his lawyers told him he could fleece more money.

So let's not jump to conclusions.
 
2012-11-19 01:19:46 PM  

Walker: Cythraul: Looks like this scumbag wants more money.

No. Looks like he was paid off to change his story (it's a fact he was as the article states) and it was eating at him.


FTA: (he was reportedly crying during the negotiations while saying he didn't want to sign)

Reported by whom? His lawyers?
 
2012-11-19 01:24:39 PM  

Walker: Cythraul: Looks like this scumbag wants more money.

No. Looks like he was paid off to change his story (it's a fact he was as the article states) and it was eating at him.


Everything articles state are facts now? Good grief.
 
2012-11-19 01:24:57 PM  
No takebacks.
 
2012-11-19 01:26:30 PM  

Slaxl: Walker: Cythraul: Looks like this scumbag wants more money.

No. Looks like he was paid off to change his story (it's a fact he was as the article states) and it was eating at him.

Everything articles state are facts now? Good grief.


TMZ is a paragon of truth.
 
2012-11-19 01:32:47 PM  

Walker: Cythraul: Looks like this scumbag wants more money.

No. Looks like he was paid off to change his story (it's a fact he was as the article states) and it was eating at him.


Considering his past, my guess is he wants more money.

He has been arrested in the past for knife point robbery from a music manager for whom he interned, passing bad checks and reckless driving.
 
2012-11-19 01:38:38 PM  
And it looks like this dude is talking to new lawyers since the Sandusky firm dropped his ass.
 
2012-11-19 01:39:28 PM  
He discredits his story even more with each flip-flop.

Or, as has been said, Someone was convinced they could get MORE money.
 
2012-11-19 01:40:27 PM  
Maybe he just wants his own TV show.
 
2012-11-19 01:43:13 PM  
i1079.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-19 01:46:34 PM  

Walker: it's a fact


It's a claim. Should be easy to prove if true.
 
2012-11-19 01:50:42 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: Walker: it's a fact

It's a claim. Should be easy to prove if true.


If the Sesame folks did an investigation, I can't believe they would cover for someone having sex with an underage boy.

Sesame Workshop has way too much to lose to go all Penn State. Their business IS products and entertainment for children. To harbor someone who had sex with a minor would kill the company dead.
 
2012-11-19 01:51:02 PM  
Either way, he blew it. Without compelling evidence, he's not even going to have the 100k or so.
 
2012-11-19 01:51:19 PM  
Over the weekend, TMZ reported that Clash had paid Stephens $125,000 to recant his story

My take away from all of this is that I had no idea puppeteering paid so well.
 
2012-11-19 01:55:37 PM  
Crazy exes are still crazy. Whether they are male or female. Sleep with crazy and you get crazy results.
 
2012-11-19 01:56:31 PM  

Sybarite: Over the weekend, TMZ reported that Clash had paid Stephens $125,000 to recant his story

My take away from all of this is that I had no idea puppeteering paid so well.


www.twistermc.com

It's all about moi-chan-dize-ing.
 
2012-11-19 01:58:37 PM  

Walker: Cythraul: Looks like this scumbag wants more money.

No. Looks like he was paid off to change his story (it's a fact he was as the article states) and it was eating at him.


If you believe a guy who robbed someone at knife point. I'm not saying it didn't happen, but I need more than his word on it, especially after he's changed his story so much.
 
2012-11-19 01:58:47 PM  
Clash should just run with it and change the act's name to Pickle Me Elmo. Lemons...lemonade.

/or lemon party
 
2012-11-19 02:07:04 PM  
The mob definition of an honest man - once he's bought, he stays bought.
 
2012-11-19 02:09:29 PM  
SO that makes him a liar liar?
I didn't even know this guy got the GOP nomination.
 
2012-11-19 02:15:29 PM  

Sybarite: Over the weekend, TMZ reported that Clash had paid Stephens $125,000 to recant his story

My take away from all of this is that I had no idea puppeteering paid so well.


Only if you're John Malkovitch
 
2012-11-19 02:15:36 PM  
www.mediaite.com
Hey guize, wuts goin' on in dis thred?
 
2012-11-19 02:16:01 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: If the Sesame folks did an investigation, I can't believe they would cover for someone having sex with an underage boy.


The claim I was referring to was being paid $125,000 by the accused to change his story.

You don't need an investigation or anything to show receipt of a $125,000 payment.

While it wouldn't prove that the rest of his story is true, it would help his credibility, which appears to be in need of some help at the moment.
 
2012-11-19 02:17:32 PM  

Cythraul: Looks like this scumbag wants more money.


He also managed to pull off the rarely accomplished boomerang rape.
 
2012-11-19 02:20:17 PM  

kid_icarus: Cythraul: Looks like this scumbag wants more money.

He also managed to pull off the rarely accomplished boomerang rape.


That's not legitimate rape, though.
 
2012-11-19 02:21:40 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: FirstNationalBastard: If the Sesame folks did an investigation, I can't believe they would cover for someone having sex with an underage boy.

The claim I was referring to was being paid $125,000 by the accused to change his story.

You don't need an investigation or anything to show receipt of a $125,000 payment.

While it wouldn't prove that the rest of his story is true, it would help his credibility, which appears to be in need of some help at the moment.


Ah, yes, well, a $125k payout would be simple enough to prove, wouldn't it?
 
2012-11-19 02:22:28 PM  
Put this guy in front of a jury, and there's no way you get a conviction,
 
2012-11-19 02:25:56 PM  
This sounded sketchy as hell when it first broke. 3 story switches later and it still sounds sketchy as hell.
 
2012-11-19 03:23:04 PM  
Dude your pants are totally on fire.
 
2012-11-19 03:29:51 PM  
It's always sad when hush money talks break down..
 
2012-11-19 03:33:14 PM  
Elmo didn't know that Elmo should never stick his dick in crazy.
 
2012-11-19 03:33:41 PM  
You can't recant your recant.
 
2012-11-19 03:33:41 PM  
So get the police involved. Either a crime was committed or not. If so, he's required to give evidence. If not, he's guilty of extortion. In either case someone should be jailbound here.
 
2012-11-19 03:34:23 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: tallguywithglasseson: Walker: it's a fact

It's a claim. Should be easy to prove if true.

If the Sesame folks did an investigation, I can't believe they would cover for someone having sex with an underage boy.

Sesame Workshop has way too much to lose to go all Penn State. Their business IS products and entertainment for children. To harbor someone who had sex with a minor would kill the company dead.


/What a Sesame Street Investigation may look like...
images-mediawiki-sites.thefullwiki.org
 
2012-11-19 03:34:28 PM  

Diogenes: Justice needs to be served one way or the other, but...

Last week, the Smoking Gun took a look at Stephens, a struggling model/actor who has been arrested a few times on charges ranging from passing a bad check to reckless driving to robbing a former employer at knifepoint.

...the accuser isn't exactly holding a strong hand.


And it's totally impossible that someone (an abuser) would prey on someone with such a history, or that a troubled soul (perhaps there was some OTHER abuse - not Elmo-related - in his past) would again find himself in trouble?

// as you say, justice needs to be served one way or t'other
// but let's not jump to any conclusion other than "this story is farked more ways from more days than Sasha Grey's calendar"
 
2012-11-19 03:35:59 PM  
See, this proves that sexuality is nurture rather than nature. Why else would a young man who watched Sesame Street as a child be attracted to Elmo?
 
2012-11-19 03:36:09 PM  
Guy's got crazy eyes to match his crazy claims.
 
2012-11-19 03:37:35 PM  
It's so obvious here that the homosexual lifestyle of the principle parties is responsible for the complete lack of morality exhibited by these individuals.

Wake up America! When will you see that homosex is corrupting our society?
 
2012-11-19 03:38:01 PM  
It's almost as if someone else is putting words in his mouth...

joke about puppets and hands up asses.
 
2012-11-19 03:38:22 PM  
This idiot little twink doesn't get it. He accepted a settlement. He doesn't now get to say "Here's your money back. I was pressured." He has no credibility now. Actually, he had very little to begin with. Had he any proof of this, he would have gone to the police and worried about the civil liability part later. He's trying to shake Clash down.
 
2012-11-19 03:39:06 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: While it wouldn't prove that the rest of his story is true, it would help his credibility


Not really.

Unless you consider changing your story for money as an aid to credibility.

At best he has made it impossible to believe him one way or the other, and in the absence of any evidence...well it's time to move on to the next grift/armed robbery.
 
2012-11-19 03:39:49 PM  

Diogenes: Walker: Cythraul: Looks like this scumbag wants more money.

No. Looks like he was paid off to change his story (it's a fact he was as the article states) and it was eating at him.

That's an interpretation. I could just as easily interpret that his lawyers told him he could fleece more money.

So let's not jump to conclusions.


FTA: and sources say he's happy to give up the $125,000.

Here's another interpretation:
give up some money (that I'd have to anyway) to make MORE money
 
2012-11-19 03:40:42 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Diogenes: Justice needs to be served one way or the other, but...

Last week, the Smoking Gun took a look at Stephens, a struggling model/actor who has been arrested a few times on charges ranging from passing a bad check to reckless driving to robbing a former employer at knifepoint.

...the accuser isn't exactly holding a strong hand.

And it's totally impossible that someone (an abuser) would prey on someone with such a history, or that a troubled soul (perhaps there was some OTHER abuse - not Elmo-related - in his past) would again find himself in trouble?

// as you say, justice needs to be served one way or t'other
// but let's not jump to any conclusion other than "this story is farked more ways from more days than Sasha Grey's calendar"


No, that's very plausible. They are easy to prey on, and they are easy to discredit.
 
2012-11-19 03:41:53 PM  
$125k to take it up the @ss? Don't tell my wife that, or I'll never afford being able to get in the backdoor.
 
2012-11-19 03:42:11 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: FirstNationalBastard: If the Sesame folks did an investigation, I can't believe they would cover for someone having sex with an underage boy.

The claim I was referring to was being paid $125,000 by the accused to change his story.

You don't need an investigation or anything to show receipt of a $125,000 payment.

While it wouldn't prove that the rest of his story is true, it would help his credibility, which appears to be in need of some help at the moment.


Except if the lawyers were any good, there would be papers saying he wanted to avoid the trial and settle out of court without admitting guilt. The money would only prove that he settled.
 
2012-11-19 03:44:06 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: tallguywithglasseson: Walker: it's a fact

It's a claim. Should be easy to prove if true.

If the Sesame folks did an investigation, I can't believe they would cover for someone having sex with an underage boy.

Sesame Workshop has way too much to lose to go all Penn State. Their business IS products and entertainment for children. To harbor someone who had sex with a minor would kill the company dead.


Ya know, I bet somewhere in a Google cache is a post on some forum stating the very same thing in regards to Penn St., especially in defense of Paterno.

/ but as we all know now
// rhythmic slapping will not be denied.
 
2012-11-19 03:44:23 PM  

Diogenes: Walker: Cythraul: Looks like this scumbag wants more money.

No. Looks like he was paid off to change his story (it's a fact he was as the article states) and it was eating at him.

That's an interpretation. I could just as easily interpret that his lawyers told him he could fleece more money.

So let's not jump to conclusions.


I'm going to go with both- he got the check, the lawyers took their taste and he has buyer's remorse.
 
2012-11-19 03:44:45 PM  

Diogenes: kid_icarus: Cythraul: Looks like this scumbag wants more money.

He also managed to pull off the rarely accomplished boomerang rape.

That's not legitimate rape, though.


Sure it is. The guy didn't get pregnant!
 
2012-11-19 03:45:10 PM  
i.imgflip.com

"Yo, dawg, I hear you like recanting. So I recanted your recantation so that you can recant while you recant."
 
2012-11-19 03:48:45 PM  
Im sure he is sooo eaten up on the inside that since he changed his story again any money they gave him he will give back.......right? bwhhahahahahahahaha
 
2012-11-19 03:49:57 PM  
Seems legit.
 
2012-11-19 03:50:04 PM  
Ef you, pay me.
 
2012-11-19 03:50:22 PM  
Only one recant per customer please.
 
2012-11-19 03:50:52 PM  

Walker: Cythraul: Looks like this scumbag wants more money.

No. Looks like he was paid off to change his story (it's a fact he was as the article states) and it was eating at him.


Teehee, you think someone's testimony is a fact. Haha. Wowser. Zing. Good times. I need more nitrous.
 
2012-11-19 03:51:33 PM  
Shakedown, takedown, everybody step up to the dotted line...
 
2012-11-19 03:55:41 PM  

Slaxl: Walker: Cythraul: Looks like this scumbag wants more money.

No. Looks like he was paid off to change his story (it's a fact he was as the article states) and it was eating at him.

Everything articles state are facts now? Good grief.


Uh, bonjour.
 
2012-11-19 03:59:10 PM  

Diogenes: Dr Dreidel: Diogenes: Justice needs to be served one way or the other, but...

Last week, the Smoking Gun took a look at Stephens, a struggling model/actor who has been arrested a few times on charges ranging from passing a bad check to reckless driving to robbing a former employer at knifepoint.

...the accuser isn't exactly holding a strong hand.

And it's totally impossible that someone (an abuser) would prey on someone with such a history, or that a troubled soul (perhaps there was some OTHER abuse - not Elmo-related - in his past) would again find himself in trouble?

// as you say, justice needs to be served one way or t'other
// but let's not jump to any conclusion other than "this story is farked more ways from more days than Sasha Grey's calendar"

No, that's very plausible. They are easy to prey on, and they are easy to discredit.


My question was rhetorical. It may look like the guy is money-whoring ("reverse-money-whoring", since no sex allegedly happened? Or...wait, he recanted, so that means...carry the 4...I give up), and the circumstances you mentioned don't look good for the onetime accuser, but there is also the potential that he's been or is being exploited by someone (or "one more", or "more than one"...) in this situation too.

// we agree
// huzzah! celebratory Guiness towels for everyone!
 
2012-11-19 04:01:24 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: tallguywithglasseson: Walker: it's a fact

It's a claim. Should be easy to prove if true.

If the Sesame folks did an investigation, I can't believe they would cover for someone having sex with an underage boy.

Sesame Workshop has way too much to lose to go all Penn State. Their business IS products and entertainment for children. To harbor someone who had sex with a minor would kill the company dead.


you are talking about a homosexual orginazation protcting another homosexual, they are queer they are here and they want the kids
 
2012-11-19 04:01:59 PM  
The big lesson here: follow the half-plus-seven-years rule
 
2012-11-19 04:02:33 PM  
1. Crazy & Unstable
2. Figures he can sell story for more money
3. Loves the attention
 
jvl
2012-11-19 04:02:40 PM  
Lesson one: Do not date someone thirty years younger than you. That was just avoidable idiocy on Clash's part.
 
2012-11-19 04:02:43 PM  
Almost every person I know that was molested was a farking train wreck; at least for a little while anyway. I can see this being true and the kid originally taking the money because he didn't think he'd ever seeing justice with his history.

That said, who knows? The real problem here is that CTW made Kevin a public figure over the last few years and they're deeply regretting it now. Clash has admitted to sleeping with the guy, so either way, they've got a sex scandal on their hands. Either he likes sex with men less than half his age or he's a sexual predator. Neither of these outcomes are socially acceptable.
 
2012-11-19 04:05:20 PM  

Waldo Pepper: I don't doubt the guy but it rather dirtbag to go public. If I'm not mistaken there no doubt that there was sex between these two, isn't it just about timeframe?


Yes, the main difference is that Clash says that the accuser was eighteen at the time while the accuser says he was only sixteen at the time. The difference two years makes.
 
2012-11-19 04:05:23 PM  
Next up;

Found dead in a lake, his arms and legs tied with Elmo dolls and one shoved down his throat.

Murder Me Elmo
 
2012-11-19 04:06:36 PM  
Why doesn't this crazy grifter-whore go to the police to report the 'crime' instead of TMZ?

Oh right, it's because he's a crazy grifter-whore.
 
2012-11-19 04:07:16 PM  
Let see if he pays his lawyer and the IRS for this 125K income.
 
2012-11-19 04:09:16 PM  

Sandsnake: Almost every person I know that was molested was a farking train wreck; at least for a little while anyway. I can see this being true and the kid originally taking the money because he didn't think he'd ever seeing justice with his history.

That said, who knows? The real problem here is that CTW made Kevin a public figure over the last few years and they're deeply regretting it now. Clash has admitted to sleeping with the guy, so either way, they've got a sex scandal on their hands. Either he likes sex with men less than half his age or he's a sexual predator. Neither of these outcomes are socially acceptable.


Maybe not socially acceptable for you. I really don't care if people want to have sex with someone half their age, as long as everyone involved is of legal age.
 
2012-11-19 04:09:33 PM  

Sandsnake: Either he likes sex with men less than half his age or he's a sexual predator. Neither of these outcomes are socially acceptable.


Since the age difference wouldn't be that big a deal if he slept with a woman, I gotta pass on having issues with him sleeping with a younger man. What's your issue with it exactly?
 
2012-11-19 04:10:31 PM  
Kevin Clash's crime isn't that he sexed the 18 year old or even 16 year old kid. It's that he was damned cheap with his time care and money and so the kid shoplifts with no direcftion. Would it have been too much trouble to also have encouraged the kid to go to school and make something of his life or at least used his connections to get him a cushy job instead of just loving and leaving the kid?
 
2012-11-19 04:11:05 PM  
Meh.

If doinking 16yo boys is good if done by hottie MILFs, and being gay is OK, then doinking the kid was fine.

Elmo puppeteer is just a GPILF*.


*Gay Puppeteer...
 
2012-11-19 04:11:34 PM  

Diogenes: Justice needs to be served one way or the other, but...

Last week, the Smoking Gun took a look at Stephens, a struggling model/actor who has been arrested a few times on charges ranging from passing a bad check to reckless driving to robbing a former employer at knifepoint.

...the accuser isn't exactly holding a strong hand.


That didn't stop many Farkers from hating on the Duke Lacrosse players until until the skank eventually killed her boyfriend.

/yes, a nasty skanky she person
 
2012-11-19 04:11:50 PM  
i586.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-19 04:13:02 PM  
You can't talk Elmo and Gayness without this GIF.



Animated GIF version

I'm straight, but I'd do NPH without question.
 
2012-11-19 04:15:25 PM  

Cythraul: Looks like this scumbag wants more money.


Or the payoff check bounced.
 
2012-11-19 04:18:58 PM  
I'm just waiting for this to go to court, and Clash's attorney turns out to be a muppet. That'll be the one time I'll say that cameras belong in a courtroom.
 
2012-11-19 04:19:28 PM  
Speaking as someone who was once a 16 year old boy, if I were gay I would have been sexing up any other gay dudes I could. Consensually. I was old enough to know what sex was and that I wanted to have lots of it. I had to settle for whacking it because I was straight and had no game.
 
2012-11-19 04:19:48 PM  
I'm from an old Hollywood family, and when I was a kid, I used to sit at the dinner table listen to my grandparents and their friends talk about the old days. There has always been grifters trying to fleece celebrities. The only difference that in the old days, your agent or the studio you worked for would take drastic steps to protect you.

For instance, some guy living in Mexico tried to blackmail Joan Crawford by threatening to hand over a complete collection of all of her old porn movies to the press. A few days later, his house was burned down and the blackmailer was found floating face down in the ocean.
 
2012-11-19 04:22:17 PM  

JackieRabbit: he would have gone to the police and worried about the civil liability part later. He's trying to shake Clash down.

 
2012-11-19 04:23:27 PM  
I always knew Elmo's last name was "lestero".

I wonder if I can buy a "Don't Touch Me There Elmo" this Christmas.

// 's all I got.
 
2012-11-19 04:26:04 PM  
125000 is some pretty expensive buttseckz.

/ but worth it if underage?
// having a seat
 
2012-11-19 04:30:36 PM  

Elegy: It's so obvious here that the homosexual lifestyle of the principle parties is responsible for the complete lack of morality exhibited by these individuals.

Wake up America! When will you see that homosex is corrupting our society?


This statement brought to you by the letter 'R'...
 
2012-11-19 04:31:41 PM  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Since the age difference wouldn't be that big a deal if he slept with a woman, I gotta pass on having issues with him sleeping with a younger man. What's your issue with it exactly?


Aside from the creepiness factor of waiting around for the kid to become legal, I personally don't care. The general public does though. Yeah, it wouldn't be AS big of a deal if it had been a girl (I think it might still be a problem), but that's not the world we live in. "Elmo's 55 year old puppeteer likes gay sex with barely-legal men" isn't exactly positive publicity in the "parent of young children" demographic.
 
2012-11-19 04:33:26 PM  
You just can't
recant your recant
You just can't
decant some cant
And then not drink up a good sup
When your decanter's decant.

It's not right,
it's really not decent
To re-cant your recant so recent
You must stick,
stick to your story
If you aim for the glory.

So shut up,
shut the fark up
Go away and play
with your money
Cause when you
take it to fake it
You've signed a contract, honey.
 
2012-11-19 04:34:33 PM  

Coelacanth: I'm from an old Hollywood family, and when I was a kid, I used to sit at the dinner table listen to my grandparents and their friends talk about the old days. There has always been grifters trying to fleece celebrities. The only difference that in the old days, your agent or the studio you worked for would take drastic steps to protect you.

For instance, some guy living in Mexico tried to blackmail Joan Crawford by threatening to hand over a complete collection of all of her old porn movies to the press. A few days later, his house was burned down and the blackmailer was found floating face down in the ocean.


Er. Really? Is that one common knowledge? Or any part of it?
 
2012-11-19 04:35:40 PM  

CheekyMonkey: Elegy: It's so obvious here that the homosexual lifestyle of the principle parties is responsible for the complete lack of morality exhibited by these individuals.

Wake up America! When will you see that homosex is corrupting our society?

This statement brought to you by the letter 'R'...


Statement brought to you by the letter "T"
 
2012-11-19 04:35:44 PM  
GOD-DAMNIT OBAMA!
 
2012-11-19 04:38:12 PM  

kid_icarus: He also managed to pull off the rarely accomplished boomerang rape.


That sounds incredibly dangerous...

starsmedia.ign.com
starsmedia.ign.com
 
2012-11-19 04:38:27 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Not really.

Unless you consider changing your story for money as an aid to credibility.

At best he has made it impossible to believe him one way or the other, and in the absence of any evidence...well it's time to move on to the next grift/armed robbery.


He's already said he was paid $125,000 by the Elmo guy to change his story. That's on the record.

If he can show that he really did receive $125,000 from the accused shortly before or after changing his story, it certainly helps his credibility at this point -- considering right now there's nothing to back up his claim (which, as I said, should be very easy to back up). 

And the payoff works both ways. If the Elmo guy paid him $125,000 right around the time the accuser changed his story, that's going to be a tough one for him to explain. $125k isn't "I just wanted it to go away" money.
 
2012-11-19 04:39:33 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: tallguywithglasseson: Walker: it's a fact

It's a claim. Should be easy to prove if true.

If the Sesame folks did an investigation, I can't believe they would cover for someone having sex with an underage boy.

Sesame Workshop has way too much to lose to go all Penn State. Their business IS products and entertainment for children. To harbor someone who had sex with a minor would kill the company dead.


bwahahaha! look at the Roman Catholic Church! mere scandal does not take down major institutions
 
2012-11-19 04:39:50 PM  
FTFA: Stephens, a struggling model/actor who has been arrested a few times on charges ranging from passing a bad check to reckless driving to robbing a former employer at knifepoint.

Sheldon Stephens, the 23-year-old who says Elmo puppeteer Kevin Clash had sex with him when he was 16 and Clash was 45, recanted those allegations last week-but now he's recanting his recant


ts2.mm.bing.net
 
2012-11-19 04:39:51 PM  

Cythraul: Looks like this scumbag wants more money.


Because 45 year old men never hit on 16 year olds.

/personally I think he is being railroaded by lets not pretend for a moment that Clash is some innocent wall flower
 
2012-11-19 04:41:34 PM  

Snarfangel: You can't recant your recant.


Decant?
 
2012-11-19 04:42:46 PM  

fickenchucker: Meh.

If doinking 16yo boys is good if done by hottie MILFs, and being gay is OK, then doinking the kid was fine.

Elmo puppeteer is just a GPILF*.


*Gay Puppeteer...


Well played.
 
2012-11-19 04:43:23 PM  
i dont claim to know a goddamn thing about who did what anywhere, but when listing this guys prior bad acts, does reckless driving really fit in there? hell, you can get a reckless in virginia for going to the airport at 76 miles per hour, and its like a $100 ticket. couldnt they find outstanding warrants for jaywalking or something?
 
2012-11-19 04:44:23 PM  

In the latest twist on this story, Fozzie Bear is talking to Muppet Lawyers for fear of being sued by the Fozzie Cubs.

Here is a candid photo of Fozzie meeting with the Muppet Lawyers at the Teddy Bears Picnic recently:

images3.wikia.nocookie.net


Muppet Weasels are said to be among the scariest lawyers this side of the Roman Catholic Church's lawyers in molestation cases.
 
2012-11-19 04:45:02 PM  
A 16 year old, boy or girl, is old enough to know whether or not they want to sleep with a 45 year old. I find it very hard to believe that he was traumatized by the experience. I'd wager dude wants more money.
 
2012-11-19 04:49:32 PM  

Sybarite: Over the weekend, TMZ reported that Clash had paid Stephens $125,000 to recant his story

My take away from all of this is that I had no idea puppeteering paid so well.


We don't. I'm a puppeteer and puppet builder, and I assure you, the money is terrible. Beats the hell out of a 9-5 though.
 
2012-11-19 04:49:39 PM  

Cythraul: Maybe not socially acceptable for you. I really don't care if people want to have sex with someone half their age, as long as everyone involved is of legal age.


It shows a complete lack of judgement by the 40 something year old guy to sleep around with teenagers. Especially if he is the main person behind a beloved children's puppet. At that point you are just asking for your career to be destroyed and the guy deserves it. And I for one would have a major problem with any of my 40 year old plus friends banging a 16 year old. Now a 22 year old? Meh.
 
2012-11-19 04:51:43 PM  

FraggleStickCar: A 16 year old, boy or girl, is old enough to know whether or not they want to sleep with a 45 year old.


Because of age difference and celebrity, I don't find it inconceivable that an older person can manipulate a 16 year old into doing something or entering into a relationship they may regret.
 
2012-11-19 04:53:11 PM  
slodive.com
"BUTTSECKS!!"
 
2012-11-19 05:01:02 PM  
4.bp.blogspot.com
What a gay puppeteer may look like
 
2012-11-19 05:01:13 PM  
Elmo paid $125,000 to get the dude to recant. If that isn't the act of a guilty puppet, I don't know what is. If someone made that accusation against me I'd want to defend myself in court.

Elmo is a perv.
 
2012-11-19 05:01:37 PM  

That Guy...From That Show!: Snarfangel: You can't recant your recant.

Decant?


Re-re can't.
 
2012-11-19 05:02:52 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-19 05:03:44 PM  
Show me on the Elmo doll where he touched you?

Whaaaaaaaaaaa!

Bad choice of doll there, Lou.
 
2012-11-19 05:05:52 PM  

Coelacanth: I'm from an old Hollywood family, and when I was a kid, I used to sit at the dinner table listen to my grandparents and their friends talk about the old days. There has always been grifters trying to fleece celebrities. The only difference that in the old days, your agent or the studio you worked for would take drastic steps to protect you.

For instance, some guy living in Mexico tried to blackmail Joan Crawford by threatening to hand over a complete collection of all of her old porn movies to the press. A few days later, his house was burned down and the blackmailer was found floating face down in the ocean.


It ain't no wonder she hated wire hangers so much. I bet they didn't even have rubbers back then.
 
2012-11-19 05:15:32 PM  
But is it recant recant or just recant
 
2012-11-19 05:21:08 PM  

FraggleStickCar: A 16 year old, boy or girl, is old enough to know whether or not they want to sleep with a 45 year old. I find it very hard to believe that he was traumatized by the experience. I'd wager dude wants more money.


If the statute of limitations has long since expired, then there's only two reasons to do it: 1) money; 2) getting a civil judgment would be the next best thing to criminal prosecution (e.g. O.J. Simpson...not a statute of limitation issue, but certainly people who didn't need the money).
 
2012-11-19 05:25:00 PM  
Link

This week in Unnecessary Censorship! Sesame Street edition
 
2012-11-19 05:28:19 PM  
Word is that he recanted he recant after getting ripped off buying a letter O from a muppet with the hush money.

images-mediawiki-sites.thefullwiki.org
 
2012-11-19 05:29:14 PM  
dude once you recant your credibility is lost , give it up.
 
2012-11-19 05:30:13 PM  
However this plays out, someone needs to stick a fork in Kevin Clash, because his career's totally done.
 
2012-11-19 05:36:00 PM  
www.webdesign.org
 
2012-11-19 05:36:35 PM  

rockmeamadeus: Walker: Cythraul: Looks like this scumbag wants more money.

No. Looks like he was paid off to change his story (it's a fact he was as the article states) and it was eating at him.


If the guy had an actual case, you know with real evidence and stuff, he'd be a fool to accept a 125 k settlement, and his lawyers wouldn't let him. The victims in the Sandusky case are likely going to be getting a few million each. This sounds much more like someone who realized how easy it was to squeeze some cash out of his rich ex-boyfriend and is now coming back for more. Seriously, a few weeks, a few meetings with lawyers, sign a few papers and the moneys in his account, piece of cake! He has a history of financial trouble and criminal behavior so this is hardly a stretch.

If I were the defendant I would have my lawyers issue a very stern letter, something to the effect of "you have 2 days to issue a full retraction and accept the original terms or we will come at you for defamation, lost wages and anything else we can think of" If the lawyers realize they have no case and the defendant is not going to give anymore money and is fully prepared to go to court then they will likely take the money and run.
 
2012-11-19 05:42:45 PM  

ElBarto79: rockmeamadeus: Walker: Cythraul: Looks like this scumbag wants more money.

No. Looks like he was paid off to change his story (it's a fact he was as the article states) and it was eating at him.

If the guy had an actual case, you know with real evidence and stuff, he'd be a fool to accept a 125 k settlement, and his lawyers wouldn't let him. The victims in the Sandusky case are likely going to be getting a few million each. This sounds much more like someone who realized how easy it was to squeeze some cash out of his rich ex-boyfriend and is now coming back for more. Seriously, a few weeks, a few meetings with lawyers, sign a few papers and the moneys in his account, piece of cake! He has a history of financial trouble and criminal behavior so this is hardly a stretch.

If I were the defendant I would have my lawyers issue a very stern letter, something to the effect of "you have 2 days to issue a full retraction and accept the original terms or we will come at you for defamation, lost wages and anything else we can think of" If the lawyers realize they have no case and the defendant is not going to give anymore money and is fully prepared to go to court then they will likely take the money and run.


At least these guys weren't eating him...
derpface.com
 
2012-11-19 05:43:16 PM  
And on another note; Jerry Seinfeld, at the height of his fame, was dating a 16 year old and no one said anything about it, not even her parents. Is there a double standard here where a heterosexual relationship with a very young girl is ok, even if some people shake their heads, but a homosexual one is criminal?
 
2012-11-19 05:44:05 PM  
I'm going to guess that he found out how much was going to be left after paying the lawyers and Uncle Sam and realized it wasn't even going to cover his outstanding debts.
 
2012-11-19 05:44:28 PM  
I wonder if the kid asked Clash to do the Elmo voice when he came?
 
2012-11-19 05:46:44 PM  

DrewCurtisJr: FraggleStickCar: A 16 year old, boy or girl, is old enough to know whether or not they want to sleep with a 45 year old.

Because of age difference and celebrity, I don't find it inconceivable that an older person can manipulate a 16 year old into doing something or entering into a relationship they may regret.


I think this influence would just work as well regardless of the persons age.
 
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2012-11-19 05:54:56 PM  

Sandsnake: "Elmo's 55 year old puppeteer likes gay sex with barely-legal men" isn't exactly positive publicity in the "parent of young children" demographic.


I would be more bothered if my 16 year old was still watching Sesame Street.

/must have missed the story about Clash being attracted to his show's target audience
 
2012-11-19 05:58:40 PM  
Someone should just shove a vibrating Elmo dildo into that kid's mouth. It's so easy to say "I've been pressured into taking a huge sum of money!".
 
2012-11-19 06:04:54 PM  
Fuzzy red handjobs.

That is all.

/"Elmo sticky!" 
 
2012-11-19 06:07:45 PM  
Tickle Me Hellmo.

images-mediawiki-sites.thefullwiki.org
 
2012-11-19 06:08:19 PM  

Kevin72: Kevin Clash's crime isn't that he sexed the 18 year old or even 16 year old kid. It's that he was damned cheap with his time care and money and so the kid shoplifts with no direcftion. Would it have been too much trouble to also have encouraged the kid to go to school and make something of his life or at least used his connections to get him a cushy job instead of just loving and leaving the kid?


He violated Dan Savage's "Campfire rule", and now he's paying the price.
 
2012-11-19 06:08:32 PM  
This is blackmale. Pure and simple.
 
2012-11-19 06:10:16 PM  

fickenchucker: If doinking 16yo boys is good if done by hottie MILFs, and being gay is OK, then doinking the kid was fine.


upload.wikimedia.org

What makes you think it's socially acceptable for MILFs?
 
2012-11-19 06:16:38 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: HotWingConspiracy: Not really.

Unless you consider changing your story for money as an aid to credibility.

At best he has made it impossible to believe him one way or the other, and in the absence of any evidence...well it's time to move on to the next grift/armed robbery.

He's already said he was paid $125,000 by the Elmo guy to change his story. That's on the record.

If he can show that he really did receive $125,000 from the accused shortly before or after changing his story, it certainly helps his credibility at this point -- considering right now there's nothing to back up his claim (which, as I said, should be very easy to back up). 

And the payoff works both ways. If the Elmo guy paid him $125,000 right around the time the accuser changed his story, that's going to be a tough one for him to explain. $125k isn't "I just wanted it to go away" money.


Totally! Someone who signs a nondisclosure agreement giving away their chance at justice for a check has some remaining credibility when they then recants on their recant.
 
2012-11-19 06:18:47 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Diogenes: Justice needs to be served one way or the other, but...

Last week, the Smoking Gun took a look at Stephens, a struggling model/actor who has been arrested a few times on charges ranging from passing a bad check to reckless driving to robbing a former employer at knifepoint.

...the accuser isn't exactly holding a strong hand.

And it's totally impossible that someone (an abuser) would prey on someone with such a history, or that a troubled soul (perhaps there was some OTHER abuse - not Elmo-related - in his past) would again find himself in trouble?

// as you say, justice needs to be served one way or t'other
// but let's not jump to any conclusion other than "this story is farked more ways from more days than Sasha Grey's calendar"


Sex with a willing 16-year-old isn't abuse. It's probably a bad idea, but everybody's having a good time.
 
2012-11-19 06:25:42 PM  

acaciaavenue: $125k to take it up the @ss? Don't tell my wife that, or I'll never afford being able to get in the backdoor.


You should get in on her groupon.
 
2012-11-19 06:29:25 PM  

Itchy Feets: Sybarite: Over the weekend, TMZ reported that Clash had paid Stephens $125,000 to recant his story

My take away from all of this is that I had no idea puppeteering paid so well.

We don't. I'm a puppeteer and puppet builder, and I assure you, the money is terrible. Beats the hell out of a 9-5 though.


Are you a star TV puppeteer? I didn't think so.

/Everybody in TV and studio features makes stupid money.
 
2012-11-19 06:33:31 PM  
But have those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked, been sacked?
 
2012-11-19 06:34:12 PM  

dejavoodoo64: Coelacanth: I'm from an old Hollywood family, and when I was a kid, I used to sit at the dinner table listen to my grandparents and their friends talk about the old days. There has always been grifters trying to fleece celebrities. The only difference that in the old days, your agent or the studio you worked for would take drastic steps to protect you.

For instance, some guy living in Mexico tried to blackmail Joan Crawford by threatening to hand over a complete collection of all of her old porn movies to the press. A few days later, his house was burned down and the blackmailer was found floating face down in the ocean.

It ain't no wonder she hated wire hangers so much. I bet they didn't even have rubbers back then.


How much would you bet? Because I will cover that action.
 
2012-11-19 06:41:16 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: HotWingConspiracy: Not really.

Unless you consider changing your story for money as an aid to credibility.

At best he has made it impossible to believe him one way or the other, and in the absence of any evidence...well it's time to move on to the next grift/armed robbery.

He's already said he was paid $125,000 by the Elmo guy to change his story. That's on the record.

If he can show that he really did receive $125,000 from the accused shortly before or after changing his story, it certainly helps his credibility at this point -- considering right now there's nothing to back up his claim (which, as I said, should be very easy to back up). 

And the payoff works both ways. If the Elmo guy paid him $125,000 right around the time the accuser changed his story, that's going to be a tough one for him to explain. $125k isn't "I just wanted it to go away" money.


You think it's too much to be go away money? How much do you think Elmo guy's legal team will cost from now until a determination by a court? And what about the feeding frenzy in the press? And anyone you ever slept with describing your sex life to reporters? What about the stress of a legal proceeding that might take years to get resolved? Added to which is the chance you might be found liable even if you did nothing wrong, in which case you're going to pay legals costs and the judgment.

If it were you, and you were gay (because there is a double standard), how much would you pay to not have to go through that, regardless of innocence?
 
2012-11-19 06:45:20 PM  

gingerjet: Cythraul: Looks like this scumbag wants more money.

Because 45 year old men never hit on 16 year olds.

/personally I think he is being railroaded by lets not pretend for a moment that Clash is some innocent wall flower


Yeah. We know that Clash and the Kid (good band name) had a relationship. The only question is whether the Kid was an illegal 16 or a barely legal 18. Clash's character doesn't look exactly stunning here either.
 
2012-11-19 06:50:37 PM  
So if I had to guess (or just wanted to, as the case may be) I'd say that he just found out that what he has left of that 125k after the lawyers took their cut isn't enough to pay off whoever he's in debt to.
 
2012-11-19 06:52:08 PM  
Ok let's do the math. He recanted a recant. So he's re-re-canted. Those two 're's cancel each other out, meaning that he's canted, which is to say, not straight.

A fact which Elmo has not denied from the outset of the scandal.
 
2012-11-19 06:53:52 PM  
Wow. Coming to the aid of a pedophile? All of a sudden fark readers demand facts? Want the media to put forth more information before forming an opinion. Wow. Color me surprised.
 
2012-11-19 07:02:54 PM  

rattchett: You think it's too much to be go away money?


If he didn't do anything wrong? Yeah, $125,000 is a little steep, especially since his side of the story was already that they had consensual sexual relationship, just that the accuser was over 18.

DerpHerder: Someone who signs a nondisclosure agreement giving away their chance at justice for a check


If -- if -- his claim about the cash is true, he was paid to change his story from a consensual underage sex to consensual 18+ sex.
That's some non-disclosure there, DerpHerder. 

And what justice was he seeking exactly? Something like a cash settlement?
 
2012-11-19 07:06:27 PM  
Well TMZ's quoting a "settlement document". If you can't trust TMZ, who can you trust?

Also according to TMZ, holy shiat Wayne Gretzky's daughter is hot.
 
2012-11-19 07:10:50 PM  
Do not deElmo, please.

Learn how to separate the character from the person, plz.

Elmo is a good guy.

Thank you.
 
2012-11-19 07:12:23 PM  

Waldo Pepper: I know it would be impossible but it should be against the law to settle out of court on child sex abuse cases.

I realize 16 is sort of borderline and maybe not really abuse but still, the Catholic Church, Boy Scouts, I'm sure a great bit of hollywood, waiting for the shoe to drop on the Girl Scouts one day


Waitaminute, aren't you a white, evangelical Christian?

Your vote doesn't count.
 
2012-11-19 07:13:46 PM  

Proteios1: Wow. Coming to the aid of a pedophile? All of a sudden fark readers demand facts? Want the media to put forth more information before forming an opinion. Wow. Color me surprised.


This is Elmo we're talking about. Farklove for muppets knows no bounds.
 
2012-11-19 07:15:17 PM  

This text is now purple: fickenchucker: If doinking 16yo boys is good if done by hottie MILFs, and being gay is OK, then doinking the kid was fine.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 500x528]

What makes you think it's socially acceptable for MILFs?


That chart gets really icky toward the upper end. They should cut it off at 60 or 65. I am 50, and the maths may say I can date 85-year-olds, but ew.
 
2012-11-19 07:19:44 PM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: This is blackmale. Pure and simple.


What you did there. I see it.
 
2012-11-19 07:21:29 PM  

fickenchucker: Meh.

If doinking 16yo boys is good if done by hottie MILFs, and being gay is OK, then doinking the kid was fine.


Yes, let the high-fiving begin.

//Niiiice
 
2012-11-19 07:23:28 PM  

Waldo Pepper: Indubitably: Waldo Pepper: I know it would be impossible but it should be against the law to settle out of court on child sex abuse cases.

I realize 16 is sort of borderline and maybe not really abuse but still, the Catholic Church, Boy Scouts, I'm sure a great bit of hollywood, waiting for the shoe to drop on the Girl Scouts one day

Waitaminute, aren't you a white, evangelical Christian?

Your vote doesn't count.

you forgot male

Pssst:

it doesn't matter.
 
2012-11-19 07:23:31 PM  

Kriggerel: However this plays out, someone needs to stick a fork in Kevin Clash, because his career's totally done.


His twenty one Emmy Awards disagree
 
2012-11-19 07:29:31 PM  
The attention whore is strong with this one.
 
2012-11-19 07:35:49 PM  

Waldo Pepper: Indubitably: Waldo Pepper: Indubitably: Waldo Pepper: I know it would be impossible but it should be against the law to settle out of court on child sex abuse cases.

I realize 16 is sort of borderline and maybe not really abuse but still, the Catholic Church, Boy Scouts, I'm sure a great bit of hollywood, waiting for the shoe to drop on the Girl Scouts one day

Waitaminute, aren't you a white, evangelical Christian?

Your vote doesn't count.

you forgot male



Pssst: it doesn't matter.

so why does my vote not count?


B/c you are a dying breed of ignorant twat: the kind that'd rather suck on a dying schema and defend at the expense of death of the rest of the world. Frick that. Sheer mass of humanity wins this argument. You don't.

Next.
 
2012-11-19 07:44:34 PM  
So really aggressive fisting can touch brain?

Because this is sounding like a brain got touched...touched by an Elmo.
 
2012-11-19 07:47:14 PM  

Waldo Pepper: Indubitably: Waldo Pepper: Indubitably: Waldo Pepper: Indubitably: Waldo Pepper: I know it would be impossible but it should be against the law to settle out of court on child sex abuse cases.

I realize 16 is sort of borderline and maybe not really abuse but still, the Catholic Church, Boy Scouts, I'm sure a great bit of hollywood, waiting for the shoe to drop on the Girl Scouts one day

Waitaminute, aren't you a white, evangelical Christian?

Your vote doesn't count.

you forgot male



Pssst: it doesn't matter.

so why does my vote not count?

B/c you are a dying breed of ignorant twat: the kind that'd rather suck on a dying schema and defend at the expense of death of the rest of the world. Frick that. Sheer mass of humanity wins this argument. You don't.

Next.

and yet you take time out to comment on my post. seems you lose as it is obvious what I post bothers you.


How did I lose?

I got to write to some eloquent shiat, you?

*)
 
2012-11-19 07:48:39 PM  

Indubitably: Waldo Pepper: Indubitably: Waldo Pepper: Indubitably: Waldo Pepper: Indubitably: Waldo Pepper: I know it would be impossible but it should be against the law to settle out of court on child sex abuse cases.

I realize 16 is sort of borderline and maybe not really abuse but still, the Catholic Church, Boy Scouts, I'm sure a great bit of hollywood, waiting for the shoe to drop on the Girl Scouts one day

Waitaminute, aren't you a white, evangelical Christian?

Your vote doesn't count.

you forgot male



Pssst: it doesn't matter.

so why does my vote not count?

B/c you are a dying breed of ignorant twat: the kind that'd rather suck on a dying schema and defend at the expense of death of the rest of the world. Frick that. Sheer mass of humanity wins this argument. You don't.

Next.

and yet you take time out to comment on my post. seems you lose as it is obvious what I post bothers you.

How did I lose?

I got to write to some eloquent shiat, you?

*)


Word.
 
2012-11-19 07:54:44 PM  

Waldo Pepper: Indubitably: Indubitably: Waldo Pepper: Indubitably: Waldo Pepper: Indubitably: Waldo Pepper: Indubitably: Waldo Pepper: I know it would be impossible but it should be against the law to settle out of court on child sex abuse cases.

I realize 16 is sort of borderline and maybe not really abuse but still, the Catholic Church, Boy Scouts, I'm sure a great bit of hollywood, waiting for the shoe to drop on the Girl Scouts one day

Waitaminute, aren't you a white, evangelical Christian?

Your vote doesn't count.

you forgot male



Pssst: it doesn't matter.

so why does my vote not count?

B/c you are a dying breed of ignorant twat: the kind that'd rather suck on a dying schema and defend at the expense of death of the rest of the world. Frick that. Sheer mass of humanity wins this argument. You don't.

Next.

and yet you take time out to comment on my post. seems you lose as it is obvious what I post bothers you.

How did I lose?

I got to write to some eloquent shiat, you?

*)

Word.

you are a real Ralph Waldo Emerson, yep that's it.


Dood.

I would *bow* so deeply my bad back would break forever if that were true, but I am a vomitous shiat-thredder, apparently, everyone ignores me, and most sensible people relegate my scribblings to gibberish, no? I am a cyberpariah, if there ever was one of many on Fark.... I'd love to see some actual numbers, Drew. Please show mE the totals. Please show me my ignores. *)
 
2012-11-19 08:02:42 PM  
Indubitably:
Waldo Pepper:


Can you to queermos go have hatesex somewhere else?
 
2012-11-19 08:11:14 PM  
Here's what I think happened.

1) Guy accuses Elmo

2) Guy realizes he doesn't have much of a case, takes the buyout, might have been making the whole thing up.

3) Guy's lawyers very publicly cut ties with him, probably because he's such a fark-up

4) Guy gets new lawyers

5) New lawyers have less moral compunctions and set it up to get as much money as possible
 
2012-11-19 08:11:49 PM  

fluffy2097: Indubitably:
Waldo Pepper:

Can you to queermos go have hatesex somewhere else?


Awesome.

*rofl*

*guffaw*

*solid laughter*

Thank you.
 
2012-11-19 08:20:51 PM  

Waldo Pepper: fluffy2097: Indubitably:
Waldo Pepper:

Can you to queermos go have hatesex somewhere else?

so totally wrong but sure let's get back to the older gay man who works with children taking advantage of a minor subject


No punctuation equals emotionally uneducated to me, man.

I'm highly educated.

Oops.

Reeducate yourself. There are myriad resources to help.

Find them.

I teach daily, and you found me, so there's that.

Keep going.

*)
 
2012-11-19 08:54:17 PM  

Proteios1: Wow. Coming to the aid of a pedophile? All of a sudden fark readers demand facts? Want the media to put forth more information before forming an opinion. Wow. Color me surprised.


There hasn't been any proof that Clash had sex with the accuser when he was a minor, aside from the accuser's not-so-reliable story. So try taking your advice and wait for more information before you call Clash a pedo.
 
2012-11-19 08:56:10 PM  

airsupport: I wonder if the kid asked Clash to do the Elmo voice when he came?


As the father of a child enamored with Elmo (the kid, not me) and hearing that high pitched voice about 18 hours a day while home, I must say: You just gave me a farked up visual for the next time I am having sexy time with Mrs. Del Rio
 
2012-11-19 09:03:44 PM  
The black man behind Elmo is a child molester rapist after all
 
2012-11-19 09:05:11 PM  
Yo dawg, I heard you like recants...
 
2012-11-19 09:07:09 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Sesame Workshop has way too much to lose to go all Penn State. Their business IS products and entertainment for children. To harbor someone who had sex with a minor would kill the company dead.


Yeah but then Boy Scouts
 
2012-11-19 09:13:58 PM  

Cythraul: Looks like this scumbag wants more money.


He looks like a kid who's been sexually abused by men all his life.
That doesn't excuse what he did to Kevin Clash.
What happened to him with that Pollard asshole, though, where the guy
GAVE him a watch and a necklace and a plane ticket home,
then called the cops on him to embarass him at the airport
with a fraudulant theft claim................

that's what the kid has had to put up with, from the rich men who
use him for sex.

Kevin Clash made a mistake getting hooked up with him,
but after reading some of the kid's story I wish all the bad predators
and real pedophiles who had been in his life would burn in hell.
 
2012-11-19 09:15:29 PM  
Yeah, this jerkoff's totally not a blackmailer out for a paycheck.

People who make bullshiat allegations like these help individuals like Jimmy Savile or Jerry Sandusky to carry out their crimes with impunity. Thanks asshole.
 
2012-11-19 09:16:39 PM  
Kant and re-Kant went into Mr. Hooper's store. Kant came out. Who was left? 

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-19 09:50:45 PM  

Waldo Pepper: Indubitably: Waldo Pepper: fluffy2097: Indubitably:
Waldo Pepper:

Can you to queermos go have hatesex somewhere else?

so totally wrong but sure let's get back to the older gay man who works with children taking advantage of a minor subject

No punctuation equals emotionally uneducated to me, man.

I'm highly educated.

Oops.

Reeducate yourself. There are myriad resources to help.

Find them.

I teach daily, and you found me, so there's that.

Keep going.

*)

and yet you're still a fool.


Of Kings...
 
2012-11-19 10:01:54 PM  
This is why all lawsuits should be manditorily written on parchment torn from the neck of an angry bear.

If you're not willing to risk your life to get that paper from its collar, you obviously don't want the lawsuit as bad as you thought you did. Too bad, so sad.

/exceptions for medical malpractice or objective injury which leaves the patient unable to wrassle a bear.
//the size of the bear will be decided by a pre-suit hearing by the most cynical "deal with it" guy we can find
 
2012-11-19 10:07:26 PM  

FTGodWin: FirstNationalBastard: tallguywithglasseson: Walker: it's a fact

It's a claim. Should be easy to prove if true.

If the Sesame folks did an investigation, I can't believe they would cover for someone having sex with an underage boy.

Sesame Workshop has way too much to lose to go all Penn State. Their business IS products and entertainment for children. To harbor someone who had sex with a minor would kill the company dead.

Ya know, I bet somewhere in a Google cache is a post on some forum stating the very same thing in regards to Penn St., especially in defense of Paterno.

/ but as we all know now
// rhythmic slapping will not be denied.


And if he turns out to be guilty, I promise to not double down on the derp.
 
2012-11-19 10:12:11 PM  
Two! Two recants! Ah-hah-hah-hah-ha!
 
2012-11-19 10:21:59 PM  

gingerjet: Cythraul: Looks like this scumbag wants more money.

Because 45 year old men never hit on 16 year olds.

/personally I think he is being railroaded by lets not pretend for a moment that Clash is some innocent wall flower


And I'm sure this accuser has proof of this affair while he was 16? Has he come forward with any proof yet? Well... ?
 
2012-11-19 11:06:46 PM  

FuryOfFirestorm: Kevin72: Kevin Clash's crime isn't that he sexed the 18 year old or even 16 year old kid. It's that he was damned cheap with his time care and money and so the kid shoplifts with no direcftion. Would it have been too much trouble to also have encouraged the kid to go to school and make something of his life or at least used his connections to get him a cushy job instead of just loving and leaving the kid?

He violated Dan Savage's "Campfire rule", and now he's paying the price.


I had to look up the campsite rule, and Dan Savage is so right. Clash was cheap shortsighted and selfish and is paying the price in reputation and $1/8 million.
 
2012-11-19 11:33:11 PM  
Look... I feel bad for everyone involved, and I know Elmo was loved by children everywhere, but I have to say that if the end result of all this is a moratorium on the Elmo character, I'm going to be happy about it.

Elmo farking ruined Sesame Street, if you ask me.

I'm also just damned sick of the Elmo merchandise. You can't walk down the aisles in a department store without Elmo's voice popping up from some motion-activated toy. He's everywhere, and he needs to be stopped.

My take on all this? The guy doing the accusing was actually put to the task by Frank Oz, who was pissed that Elmo took all of Grover's press. Prior to Elmo, Grover was the lovable, cute Muppet from Sesame Street who brought in all the cool merchandising bucks (well, him and Cookie Monster before they snipped off his balls and made him eat vegetables and declare cookies a "sometimes food"). After Elmo, though, the Grover opportunities dried up. So did the merchandising paychecks for using Grover's voice on toys and other merchandise. And Oz knew he had to do something.

The last time Oz was feeling threatened was when Mr. Hooper started to get a lot of screen-time on the show. We all know what happened to Mr. Hooper, don't we?

Yes, this was all part of an elaborate plot by Frank Oz to end Elmo's reign of terror and put Grover back on top.
 
2012-11-20 12:05:49 AM  
Elmo like to sing. Elmo like to dance. Elmo like to play with little boy assholes...
 
2012-11-20 01:04:38 AM  

gingerjet: Cythraul: Maybe not socially acceptable for you. I really don't care if people want to have sex with someone half their age, as long as everyone involved is of legal age.

It shows a complete lack of judgement by the 40 something year old guy to sleep around with teenagers. Especially if he is the main person behind a beloved children's puppet. At that point you are just asking for your career to be destroyed and the guy deserves it. And I for one would have a major problem with any of my 40 year old plus friends banging a 16 year old. Now a 22 year old? Meh.


Ctrl-Alt-Del: Kriggerel: However this plays out, someone needs to stick a fork in Kevin Clash, because his career's totally done.

His twenty one Emmy Awards disagree


Cythraul: Sandsnake: Almost every person I know that was molested was a farking train wreck; at least for a little while anyway. I can see this being true and the kid originally taking the money because he didn't think he'd ever seeing justice with his history.

That said, who knows? The real problem here is that CTW made Kevin a public figure over the last few years and they're deeply regretting it now. Clash has admitted to sleeping with the guy, so either way, they've got a sex scandal on their hands. Either he likes sex with men less than half his age or he's a sexual predator. Neither of these outcomes are socially acceptable.

Maybe not socially acceptable for you. I really don't care if people want to have sex with someone half their age, as long as everyone involved is of legal age.


FirstNationalBastard: FTGodWin: FirstNationalBastard: tallguywithglasseson: Walker: it's a fact

It's a claim. Should be easy to prove if true.

If the Sesame folks did an investigation, I can't believe they would cover for someone having sex with an underage boy.

Sesame Workshop has way too much to lose to go all Penn State. Their business IS products and entertainment for children. To harbor someone who had sex with a minor would kill the company dead.

Ya know, I bet somewhere in a Google cache is a post on some forum stating the very same thing in regards to Penn St., especially in defense of Paterno.

/ but as we all know now
// rhythmic slapping will not be denied.

And if he turns out to be guilty, I promise to not double down on the derp.


physt: /What a Sesame Street Investigation may look like...
images-mediawiki-sites.thefullwiki.org


Duke_leto_Atredes: you are talking about a homosexual orginazation protcting another homosexual, they are queer they are here and they want the kids


KrispyKritter: bwahahaha! look at the Roman Catholic Church! mere scandal does not take down major institutions


poot_rootbeer: Yeah but then Boy Scouts


Waldo Pepper: ElBarto79: And on another note; Jerry Seinfeld, at the height of his fame, was dating a 16 year old and no one said anything about it, not even her parents. Is there a double standard here where a heterosexual relationship with a very young girl is ok, even if some people shake their heads, but a homosexual one is criminal?

I don't know, I think this has not been as big of a story because he is gay. If he had sex with a 16yr or 18yr old girl, I have a feeling he would have been fired and called all sorts of names.

Even if the guy was 18 when they first had sex, he was still be courted at 16 and being that the older man works for the CTW and is the main voice of Elmo makes this so wrong.

Jerry Lee Lewis got booed off the stage for marrying his young cousin, yet had he not been a star nobody would have cared.

One has to use a stronger common sense when you work with children.


Remember, folks. All Paul ‶Pee-Wee Herman" Reubens did was jack off to a porno in a movie theater, and his career was completely toast. Elmo is way more popular with even younger kids than Pee-Wee Herman ever was, and what Clash has admitted to doing was, in the minds of prudish parents anyway, far worse.
 
2012-11-20 01:56:00 AM  

Slaxl: "No. Looks like he was paid off to change his story (it's a fact he was as the article states) and it was eating at him."

Everything articles state are facts now? Good grief.


Excuse me, sir, it was ON THE INTERNET. On. The. Internet.

They wouldn't lie to you.
 
2012-11-20 01:56:12 AM  
...a struggling model/actor who has been arrested a few times on charges ranging from passing a bad check to reckless driving to robbing a former employer at knifepoint.

Sounds legit
 
2012-11-20 02:31:18 AM  

ElBarto79: And on another note; Jerry Seinfeld, at the height of his fame, was dating a 16 year old and no one said anything about it, not even her parents. Is there a double standard here where a heterosexual relationship with a very young girl is ok, even if some people shake their heads, but a homosexual one is criminal?


It wasn't okay to me, but nobody asked me.

Though I remember a story about a ticket-taker at a movie theater who made it a point of telling Jerry's girlfriend that he only let her into an R-rated movie because she had "her father" with her. Like to buy that guy a beer someday.
 
2012-11-20 03:18:09 AM  

rooftop235: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 320x320]


This. And to the guy who keeps trolling, calling Clash a pedo, do some actual research into what a pedophile is before you say stupid things on the internet. In most states, not only is 16 legal but pedophilia refers to a lust for prepubescent people. 16 is post-pubescent. You just make yourself look stupid when you talk so for the benefit of the rest of Fark STOP FARKING TALKING.

Also, stop thinking the way TMZ wants you to think, you brain-damaged little harpy.
 
2012-11-20 04:03:45 AM  
I said in the last thread that the kid was a hustler, who only agreed to recant his story for a payoff. Who the fk,, in the middle of a negotiation for a "6 figure settlement" suddenly admits he made it all up, and doesn't get paid? It was so obvious he was being paid to say it didn't happen.

But all the chumps in that thread were too busy drooling over the cross-eyed punk with the sketchy tattoo of a woman shiatting out his nipple, and exclaiming over how "pwetty" his ugly mug was. Eesh.

Still want him now?
 
2012-11-20 06:40:26 AM  

Walker: No. Looks like he was paid off to change his story (it's a fact he was as the article states) and it was eating at him.


Pretty sure he was paid to make up the story in the first place.

Not seeing the problem here. But it is very meta.
 
2012-11-20 07:28:46 AM  
tickle my testicles elmo u defective red chinese muppet who jacked grovers job.
 
2012-11-20 09:03:29 AM  
The funny thing is, if he was here in Canada this would be a non story since the age of consent here is 16.

That said.... any 16 year olds on Fark want to bang me like a screen door?
 
2012-11-20 11:07:15 AM  

This text is now purple: fickenchucker: If doinking 16yo boys is good if done by hottie MILFs, and being gay is OK, then doinking the kid was fine.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 500x528]

What makes you think it's socially acceptable for MILFs?




I'm using FARK standards. While they may be lower than society at large, I find myself more and more disinterested in uptight whining. In the last ten years I've given up biatching about recreational pot use, being completely creeped out by gays, having seizures about bad words and boobs in movies, and hating everyone who gets more tail than I do.

My new philosophy is simply "don't annoy me".

If you want to smoke pot push for legalization so law enforcement officials and Mexican villagers don't die at the hands of the cartels. If you're gay just go be gay, but PLEASE self-police the flamboyant ones--they're just annoying to look at. Everyone swears a little and boobs are fun. And lastly, It's really up to the parents to teach responsible farking. Girls and boys who fark need to accept responsibility for the fun, distress, potential sense of degradation, potential STDs, and potential pregnancies.
 
2012-11-20 01:27:37 PM  
i1188.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-20 02:44:03 PM  
Won't someone think of Mr. Noodle?
i232.photobucket.com
/And his brother, Mr. Noodle.
//Living in Elmo's back yard.
///Slave-pets.
 
2012-11-20 02:57:44 PM  
 
2012-11-20 03:09:14 PM  

kokomo61: ....and, we're done.


Oho, a second challenger appears
www.eonline.com

This one claims to have "met the 52-year-old children's entertainer on a gay phone chat line in 2003 when he was 15."
 
2012-11-20 04:26:28 PM  

WeenerGord: kokomo61: ....and, we're done.

Oho, a second challenger appears
[www.eonline.com image 560x415]

This one claims to have "met the 52-year-old children's entertainer on a gay phone chat line in 2003 when he was 15."




Ok. 15>16. Clash is now a weirdo who crossed over my threshold of jaded tolerance.

When will people learn sticking your thingie into questionable things makes other people's things shrink up, and you're forced to take your thing into forced retirement and do other things?
 
2012-11-20 05:51:32 PM  

fickenchucker: Ok. 15>16.


-1

15<16.
 
2012-11-20 08:56:38 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: fickenchucker: Ok. 15>16.

-1

15<16.


Oops...you know what I meant.
 
2012-11-20 11:43:31 PM  

fickenchucker: Ok. 15>16. Clash is now a weirdo who crossed over my threshold of jaded tolerance.

When will people learn sticking your thingie into questionable things makes other people's things shrink up, and you're forced to take your thing into forced retirement and do other things?


you don't even question what a 15 year old is doing on a GAY SEX PHONE CHAT?

/gullible isn't in the dictionary, it's written on the ceiling above you
 
2012-11-21 02:20:41 AM  

fickenchucker: Oops...you know what I meant.


15 upload.wikimedia.org 16?
 
2012-11-21 08:43:32 AM  
Here's Sexcrime (Eurythmics feat. Elmo)
It's hilarious.
http://videobam.com/rXSfY
 
2012-11-21 11:21:16 AM  

fluffy2097: fickenchucker: Ok. 15>16. Clash is now a weirdo who crossed over my threshold of jaded tolerance.

When will people learn sticking your thingie into questionable things makes other people's things shrink up, and you're forced to take your thing into forced retirement and do other things?

you don't even question what a 15 year old is doing on a GAY SEX PHONE CHAT?

/gullible isn't in the dictionary, it's written on the ceiling above you




Oh, I freely admit teenagers can be weird. I'm not gullible at all. As an adult with a career to lose Clash should have known better. All I'm saying is I'm will to grant 16+ is a decent line in the sand for adults--our society is too wrapped up in the 18+ thing.

15 or younger, three years below the legal standard, is the area you should REALLY stay away from.
 
2012-11-21 07:03:15 PM  

WeenerGord: I said in the last thread that the kid was a hustler, who only agreed to recant his story for a payoff. Who the fk,, in the middle of a negotiation for a "6 figure settlement" suddenly admits he made it all up, and doesn't get paid? It was so obvious he was being paid to say it didn't happen.

But all the chumps in that thread were too busy drooling over the cross-eyed punk with the sketchy tattoo of a woman shiatting out his nipple, and exclaiming over how "pwetty" his ugly mug was. Eesh.

Still want him now?


What does this have to do with Elmo?

P.S. I find your writing hateful and miseducated. Ah well, so it goes. I will never ignore you. What happens when you ignore stuff? We ignored Credit Default Swaps, and look what happened. We ignored BP in the Gulf, and look what happened. We ignored the rich tweaking the system in their favor, and look what happened. We ignored our infrastructure, and look what happened. We ignore at our peril. Wake up.
 
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