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2012-11-19 03:56:37 PM

lennavan: There are more if you like:


That's you insisting that that's what people are hammering you on, not people hammering you on that. There's a difference.
 
2012-11-19 03:57:19 PM

Tigger: mcwehrle: Tigger:
If you use the original meaning of factoid this post is way funnier.

Since when is it the 'original' meaning?

Using the only definition of factoid I know makes this post senseless.

Norman Mailer invented the term factoid to mean "an incorrect view commonly held to be true as a result of its frequent appearance in media".

Which means the definition of factoid is now a factoid.


great. now my head hurts. (that also may be the hangover)

:)
 
2012-11-19 03:57:25 PM

RevMercutio: lennavan: Marco Rubio: I'm not a scientist, man. I can tell you what recorded history says, I can tell you what the Bible says, but I think that's a dispute amongst theologians and I think it has nothing to do with the gross domestic product or economic growth of the United States. I think the age of the universe has zero to do with how our economy is going to grow. I'm not a scientist. I don't think I'm qualified to answer a question like that. At the end of the day, I think there are multiple theories out there on how the universe was created and I think this is a country where people should have the opportunity to teach them all. I think parents should be able to teach their kids what their faith says, what science says. Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries.

I'm struggling to see the poutrage here. I can't find a single portion of his statement I disagree with. Indeed, I wish all politicians echoed this exact sentiment.

He's right, he is not the correct person to answer this question, and the journalist should feel bad for asking a politician it.

This.


You just "This'd" without actually thinking it through, huh Rev?
 
2012-11-19 03:57:40 PM

Jim_Callahan: Two, when a politician is able to outright admit they don't know something, that's usually a good sign.


No, because it usually means they have gone into pander mode and simply do not want to give a quantitative and factually correct answer to a question and risk alienating their ignorant base.
 
2012-11-19 03:57:50 PM
I guess "I'm not a scientist, man" is at least an oblique acknowledgment that the question is suitable to those among us who are scientists. Maybe.

Baby elephant steps...
 
2012-11-19 03:58:11 PM
These idiots do not even know when their idol, Jesus, was born. Neither day nor year.
 
2012-11-19 03:58:16 PM

lennavan: gilgigamesh: "How old is the earth"? is a question of science

So how outrageous would you find it if someone asked that question would answer "I'm not a scientist."

1) Not at all
2) The most outrageous thing ever uttered from a Republican extremist


I don't know how to make it clearer

1) No one is concerned about the part where he said "I'm not a scientist"
2) People are talking about the part after that where he said "It's a great mystery" also "At the end of the day, I think there are multiple theories out there on how the universe was created and I think this is a country where people should have the opportunity to teach them all."

It's part 2 that's the dumb part.
 
2012-11-19 03:58:37 PM
He didn't say 6,000 years, so that's a step in the right direction, if you ask me.
 
2012-11-19 03:59:21 PM
Apparently, he didn't study it out.
 
2012-11-19 03:59:21 PM

Pharque-it: These idiots do not even know when their idol, Jesus, was born. Neither day nor year.


December 25, 0

suck on that!
 
2012-11-19 03:59:31 PM

mcwehrle: Tigger: mcwehrle: Tigger:
If you use the original meaning of factoid this post is way funnier.

Since when is it the 'original' meaning?

Using the only definition of factoid I know makes this post senseless.

Norman Mailer invented the term factoid to mean "an incorrect view commonly held to be true as a result of its frequent appearance in media".

Which means the definition of factoid is now a factoid.

great. now my head hurts. (that also may be the hangover)

:)


Have you considered the fact that factoid is a factoid for both the correct and incorrect definitions of factoid?
 
2012-11-19 03:59:40 PM

lennavan: gingerjet: lennavan: I'm struggling to see the poutrage here. I can't find a single portion of his statement I disagree with. Indeed, I wish all politicians echoed this exact sentiment.

He's right, he is not the correct person to answer this question, and the journalist should feel bad for asking a politician it.

My 14 year old nephew can answer this question. I expect a politician who sets policy to be able to answer questions on settled science.

/i weep for America because of people like you

I expect a politician who sets policy who when presented with a question or a problem, will inform himself from the experts and then make a decision. Whether he recalled that fact from 8th grade, or got it from the Stanford Science Professor who serves as his advisor is mostly irrelevant - except to say I'd trust the professor slightly more than my recollection of 8th grade.

That you would attack someone for suggesting we ask an expert makes me weep for the country.


Hrmmm....i would expect that someone that sits on the House Science comittee to be enough of an expert to answer what is a commonly established fact. I'll admit, i thought it was 6 billion. So, you know, that's not correct but it's in line with what is common farking knowledge if you aren't farking stupid - the earth isn't 10,000, 20,000 or 100,000 years old - it's like, you know, at LEAST 4 billion.
 
2012-11-19 03:59:57 PM

DirkValentine: If someone wants to "teach" their kid faith - fine! Go for it! But don't presume that I, my kid, my family believes it.


This is exactly what Marco Rubio just said. You get that, right? No, you clearly don't.

"That is a science question, I am not a scientist. I am aware of what the bible says but none of this has to do with the economy, which I find way more relevant. Like I said, I'm not a scientist, I'm not qualified to answer your question. Go ask a scientist. Ultimately, different people have different ideas and I'm gonna support their right to teach their kids whatever they want. However existence came to be I don't know that we'll ever answer."

Marco Rubio: I'm not a scientist, man. I can tell you what recorded history says, I can tell you what the Bible says, but I think that's a dispute amongst theologians and I think it has nothing to do with the gross domestic product or economic growth of the United States. I think the age of the universe has zero to do with how our economy is going to grow. I'm not a scientist. I don't think I'm qualified to answer a question like that. At the end of the day, I think there are multiple theories out there on how the universe was created and I think this is a country where people should have the opportunity to teach them all. I think parents should be able to teach their kids what their faith says, what science says. Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries.
 
2012-11-19 04:00:49 PM

Jim_Callahan: Pincy: Actually, it would still have not been a great answer. He's an adult and supposedly an educated one. Not being able to ballpark that the earth is billions of years old and instead saying that you're not qualified to answer the question should disqualify him from any serious discussion about potential candidates for 2016.

I can explain why I disagree with you in two points:

One, the GOP is far from unique in their politicians being somewhat scientifically illiterate. The biggest head-banger of 2008 was watching both major party candidates have a discussion about nuclear power and alternative energy that a damned five-year-old would have found uninformed and generally stupid. You can't look for scientific literacy in a political candidate-- they're lawyers. All the lawyers that have that level of intelligence are knowledge are in patent law and too busy swimming in their piles of thousand-dollar bank notes scrooge McDuck style to consider running for office.

Two, when a politician is able to outright admit they don't know something, that's usually a good sign. It means that they will rely on advisers, who can't help but know more about the issues than the candidate himself due to point one. This is largely the approach that Mr. Obama has taken, which is why even though I wouldn't trust him to reliably tell me which direction gravity pulls things I don't have a huge objection to him controlling, among other things, the NSF. Or, rather, my objections to his NSF directives have more to do with policy details than his own lack of scientific expertise/literacy.


First, the age of the earth is not something you need to be an expert in science in to answer. This is basic knowledge that is taught in grade school. And he outright equates the scientific answer with faith-based answers and says they should both be taught, so he's damn well aware of what the different answers are. So no, he's not deferring to the experts. He knows what the real experts (the scientific ones) will say, he either doesn't want to say it because he's pandering to his base or he's really that ignorant. But if you are OK with Rubio, who is on the subcommittee on science and space, deferring to religious experts on scientific issues then I guess that's your choice.
 
2012-11-19 04:01:01 PM

qorkfiend: lennavan: qorkfiend: lennavan: qorkfiend: I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want someone who didn't know - or who offered an alternate viewpoint using mythology - making decisions for those who do.

How would you feel about a politician leaving it up to you to make that decision?

Unfortunately for us, Senator Rubio sits on the Science and Space Committee in the Senate, so he actually gets to make decisions on these kind of subjects.

I also can't help but notice that you didn't answer the question.

Did you also notice you didn't ask a question in that post?

I can't help but notice you didn't answer mine.

Yes, yes. Continue with your nitpicking. It's very endearing.



Right. You complain I didn't answer your question, so clearly replying "you didn't ask a question" is nitpicking. How could that be relevant in the least?
 
2012-11-19 04:01:05 PM

StrangeQ: /3x10^8 m/s, metric ftw


2.998 E8 m/s for engineers.

I thought physics majors just used 'c' and left the variable in like for everything else? Find a way to throw pi and lambda in there and everyone's happy.

c = λE/(2πħ), there you go.
 
2012-11-19 04:01:07 PM

skullkrusher: Pharque-it: These idiots do not even know when their idol, Jesus, was born. Neither day nor year.

December 25, 0

suck on that!


Soometime in summer, 35BC.
 
2012-11-19 04:01:25 PM

the_geek: Leeds: No, I'm worried that the rabid folks on this thread are forgetting that words have meaning. And that they are choosing to use words that mean things that are not technically possible, thus undermining their arguments.

You're being intentionally obtuse. When measurements are 'knowable' there is an understanding that the measuring tool is going to have some level of precision. If I handed you a ruler and asked you how tall you are, the understanding is not that you're going to be able to measure your height in Bohr radius.


The word you neglected to take into account is this one: "Approximately."

If people want to bash the people who believe that the earth is not as old as the fossil record, have at it, I'll join you every time. But at least refrain from making obviously incorrect statements to counter the idiots. Leaving the word "approximately" out of the counter argument is sloppy and indicative of a weak minded individual.
 
2012-11-19 04:01:26 PM

StrangeQ: Well to be fair, I couldn't tell you off the top of my head what c is in miles/s either, and I majored in Physics.


Actually, that's a good point. The speed of light in miles / second is one of those things that stopped being a thing sometime in the 80's. It's sort of an age shibboleth now. Americans over 40 mostly know that the speed of light is 186K miles / second. Americans under 40 mostly know that the speed of light is 300K kilometers / second.

But for some reason, Americans still seem to mostly know that the height of Everest in feet. Go figure...
 
2012-11-19 04:01:29 PM

lennavan: How many people in this thread do you think knew how old the Earth is before googling it? I'm thinkin, on the spot, without access to Google, I also would have said "Farked if I know, I'm not the right person to ask." And I'm a scientist.


This seems to undermine your whole "ask a scientist" point if you are a scientist and don't know how old the earth is.

Maybe Marco Rubio would have been better off asking a fifth grader, because I'd bet money a fifth grader knowing how old the earth is (at least if said fifth grader doesn't live south of the Mason-Dixon line). Seriously, this isn't hard. If you don't know the earth is billions of years old I'm never going to vote for you because you are ignorant farkwad who lacks even the basic curiosity about the world around him to know what's going on . If you pretend to not know how old the earth like Marco Rubio did I'm never going to vote for you because you are a pandering asshole which can't even take a stand on basic facts like the age of the earth.
 
2012-11-19 04:02:14 PM

Lionel Mandrake: I guess "I'm not a scientist, man" is at least an oblique acknowledgment that the question is suitable to those among us who are scientists. Maybe.

Baby elephant steps...


If only he hadn't qualified it with all those religious references...
 
2012-11-19 04:02:21 PM

Tigger: StrangeQ: The Larch: lennavan: dericwater: Knowing the age of the earth is basically a pointless trivial factoid. But it's a factoid that most people know in the same way that they know the speed of light is about 186,000 miles/second, that Mt Everest is 29K and change above sea level, that Columbus came to the New World in 1492 and not 1942, and that 6 million jews were killed in the holocaust during WWII.

The only fact amongst those that I knew off the top of my head was the Columbus thing. Does that mean you think I deny the holocaust?

It does mean that you're incredibly ignorant about the basic facts that every well-educated person in the world knows.

Well to be fair, I couldn't tell you off the top of my head what c is in miles/s either, and I majored in Physics.

/3x10^8 m/s, metric ftw

But you would not have said "either seven or potato but we should consider asking some priests as well as some scientists and there should be the opportunity to teach the controversy of the great mystery that the speed of light is potato"


Hm, my Fark sarcasm post-o-tron must be broken again. I'll take a look at it..
 
2012-11-19 04:02:31 PM

lennavan: gilgigamesh: "How old is the earth"? is a question of science

So how outrageous would you find it if someone asked that question would answer "I'm not a scientist."

1) Not at all
2) The most outrageous thing ever uttered from a Republican extremist


I would equate that to "does the universe revolve around the earth", which is also a question of science. If the answer is anything but "no" that person is either ignorant or an extremist, or pandering to ignorant extremists.
 
2012-11-19 04:02:43 PM

thurstonxhowell: lennavan: There are more if you like:

That's you insisting that that's what people are hammering you on, not people hammering you on that. There's a difference.


So if I follow - I have been arguing one thing all along and people are hammering me on something else.

[strawman.jpg]

Hey, it's not often someone openly admits it. Kudos to you, sir.
 
2012-11-19 04:03:06 PM

Holocaust Agnostic: skullkrusher: Pharque-it: These idiots do not even know when their idol, Jesus, was born. Neither day nor year.

December 25, 0

suck on that!

Soometime in summer, 35BC.


how the fark is there snow on the manger in summertime in the middle east?
 
2012-11-19 04:03:11 PM
www.afunnystuff.com

and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again
 
2012-11-19 04:03:58 PM

Tigger: lennavan: gilgigamesh: "How old is the earth"? is a question of science

So how outrageous would you find it if someone asked that question would answer "I'm not a scientist."

1) Not at all
2) The most outrageous thing ever uttered from a Republican extremist

I don't know how to make it clearer

1) No one is concerned about the part where he said "I'm not a scientist"
2) People are talking about the part after that where he said "It's a great mystery" also "At the end of the day, I think there are multiple theories out there on how the universe was created and I think this is a country where people should have the opportunity to teach them all."

It's part 2 that's the dumb part.


Well, there's also the part that says that it is possible that the earth was created in seven days, and the part where he said that disputes about the age of the earth should be resolved be theologians. That stuff is weapons-grade derp, too.
 
2012-11-19 04:04:19 PM

Fluorescent Testicle: You guys know that Lennavan is (more likely than not) one of Skullkrusher's alts, right?


Seriously, this is one of the most successful troll threads I've ever seen on Fark. There's a certain purity to it, such that it can be repeated over and over and snag dozens of farkers each time in the same thread. Someone should keep count, but not me because I just stopped giving a shiat.
 
2012-11-19 04:05:11 PM

Jim_Callahan: StrangeQ: /3x10^8 m/s, metric ftw

2.998 E8 m/s for engineers.

I thought physics majors just used 'c' and left the variable in like for everything else? Find a way to throw pi and lambda in there and everyone's happy.

c = λE/(2πħ), there you go.


Well it depends. Once you get into cosmology and relativity we like to just set c = 1 and pretend it doesn't exist.
 
2012-11-19 04:05:27 PM

lennavan: DirkValentine: If someone wants to "teach" their kid faith - fine! Go for it! But don't presume that I, my kid, my family believes it.

This is exactly what Marco Rubio just said. You get that, right? No, you clearly don't.

"That is a science question, I am not a scientist. I am aware of what the bible says but none of this has to do with the economy, which I find way more relevant. Like I said, I'm not a scientist, I'm not qualified to answer your question. Go ask a scientist. Ultimately, different people have different ideas and I'm gonna support their right to teach their kids whatever they want. However existence came to be I don't know that we'll ever answer."

Marco Rubio: I'm not a scientist, man. I can tell you what recorded history says, I can tell you what the Bible says, but I think that's a dispute amongst theologians and I think it has nothing to do with the gross domestic product or economic growth of the United States. I think the age of the universe has zero to do with how our economy is going to grow. I'm not a scientist. I don't think I'm qualified to answer a question like that. At the end of the day, I think there are multiple theories out there on how the universe was created and I think this is a country where people should have the opportunity to teach them all. I think parents should be able to teach their kids what their faith says, what science says. Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries.


You know what, you are right. He definitely did say what I bolded above. As long as that's all that he's advocating, I'm good with it. I'm not ok with it being "taught" in schools.
 
2012-11-19 04:05:58 PM

skullkrusher: Holocaust Agnostic: skullkrusher: Pharque-it: These idiots do not even know when their idol, Jesus, was born. Neither day nor year.

December 25, 0

suck on that!

Soometime in summer, 35BC.

how the fark is there snow on the manger in summertime in the middle east?


Why are shepherds out in the fields with their flocks on a friged winter night?
 
2012-11-19 04:06:04 PM

Bacontastesgood: Fluorescent Testicle: You guys know that Lennavan is (more likely than not) one of Skullkrusher's alts, right?

Seriously, this is one of the most successful troll threads I've ever seen on Fark. There's a certain purity to it, such that it can be repeated over and over and snag dozens of farkers each time in the same thread. Someone should keep count, but not me because I just stopped giving a shiat.


please, he's an amateur.
 
2012-11-19 04:06:15 PM

The Larch: Tigger: lennavan: gilgigamesh: "How old is the earth"? is a question of science

So how outrageous would you find it if someone asked that question would answer "I'm not a scientist."

1) Not at all
2) The most outrageous thing ever uttered from a Republican extremist

I don't know how to make it clearer

1) No one is concerned about the part where he said "I'm not a scientist"
2) People are talking about the part after that where he said "It's a great mystery" also "At the end of the day, I think there are multiple theories out there on how the universe was created and I think this is a country where people should have the opportunity to teach them all."

It's part 2 that's the dumb part.

Well, there's also the part that says that it is possible that the earth was created in seven days, and the part where he said that disputes about the age of the earth should be resolved be theologians. That stuff is weapons-grade derp, too.


I'm trying to keep it simple.

We're dealing with some weapons grade tard right here.
 
2012-11-19 04:06:20 PM

skullkrusher: Holocaust Agnostic: skullkrusher: Pharque-it: These idiots do not even know when their idol, Jesus, was born. Neither day nor year.

December 25, 0

suck on that!

Soometime in summer, 35BC.

how the fark is there snow on the manger in summertime in the middle east?


That's a dispute among theologians.
 
2012-11-19 04:06:33 PM

Gwyrddu: lennavan: How many people in this thread do you think knew how old the Earth is before googling it? I'm thinkin, on the spot, without access to Google, I also would have said "Farked if I know, I'm not the right person to ask." And I'm a scientist.

This seems to undermine your whole "ask a scientist" point if you are a scientist and don't know how old the earth is.


I was hoping no one would catch that one. This of course requires a discussion about how not all scientists are the same. You wouldn't ask a Chemist about evolution.
 
2012-11-19 04:06:45 PM

Holocaust Agnostic: skullkrusher: Holocaust Agnostic: skullkrusher: Pharque-it: These idiots do not even know when their idol, Jesus, was born. Neither day nor year.

December 25, 0

suck on that!

Soometime in summer, 35BC.

how the fark is there snow on the manger in summertime in the middle east?

Why are shepherds out in the fields with their flocks on a friged winter night?


because God hired them as extras to fill out the Nativity scene
 
2012-11-19 04:06:47 PM

lennavan: I can't find a single portion of his statement I disagree with.


"Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries."

You do not disagree with this statement?
 
2012-11-19 04:07:36 PM

skullkrusher: Holocaust Agnostic: skullkrusher: Pharque-it: These idiots do not even know when their idol, Jesus, was born. Neither day nor year.

December 25, 0

suck on that!

Soometime in summer, 35BC.

how the fark is there snow on the manger in summertime in the middle east?


because JESUS!

/christ!
 
2012-11-19 04:07:44 PM

qorkfiend: skullkrusher: Holocaust Agnostic: skullkrusher: Pharque-it: These idiots do not even know when their idol, Jesus, was born. Neither day nor year.

December 25, 0

suck on that!

Soometime in summer, 35BC.

how the fark is there snow on the manger in summertime in the middle east?

That's a dispute among theologians.


I'm no scientician but I'll defer to someone who is:

citizenscientician.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-11-19 04:08:05 PM

lennavan: Gwyrddu: lennavan: How many people in this thread do you think knew how old the Earth is before googling it? I'm thinkin, on the spot, without access to Google, I also would have said "Farked if I know, I'm not the right person to ask." And I'm a scientist.

This seems to undermine your whole "ask a scientist" point if you are a scientist and don't know how old the earth is.

I was hoping no one would catch that one. This of course requires a discussion about how not all scientists are the same. You wouldn't ask a Chemist about evolution.


You wouldn't expect a chemist to understand the basic principles of evolution? Why not?
 
2012-11-19 04:08:38 PM

skullkrusher: please, he's an amateur.


LOL well played.
 
2012-11-19 04:09:26 PM

The Larch: StrangeQ: Well to be fair, I couldn't tell you off the top of my head what c is in miles/s either, and I majored in Physics.

Actually, that's a good point. The speed of light in miles / second is one of those things that stopped being a thing sometime in the 80's. It's sort of an age shibboleth now. Americans over 40 mostly know that the speed of light is 186K miles / second. Americans under 40 mostly know that the speed of light is 300K kilometers / second.

But for some reason, Americans still seem to mostly know that the height of Everest in feet. Go figure...


Was being snarky, but yeah, the point stands that if he had been asked "what is the speed of light?" any answer beginning with "well, I know what the Bible says..." would have been face-palm-through-the-back-of-the-head incorrect, pandering, and utterly ignorant.
 
2012-11-19 04:09:45 PM
Marco Rubio: I'm not a scientist, man. I can tell you what recorded history says, I can tell you what the Bible says, but I think that's a dispute amongst theologians and I think it has nothing to do with the gross domestic product or economic growth of the United States.

Here's how it affects the GDP and economic growth you insincere piece of shiat:

Acceptance of scientific theories and research leads to a greater focus on education and knowledge. More money is raised/funded/poured into schools and colleges. Kids go to school, learn established scientific facts and become doctors, engineers and scientists. This leads to more research, more technological development, and a greater understanding of our world. Economic booms always follow technological leaps forward.

And we know this works because it worked in the farking 60s which put 17 American men on the god damn farking moon.

To say that science is specious and unreliable is discrediting hundreds of years of work by very smart people doing very smart studies. It results in decreased enthusiasm and confidence in scientific discourse, discourages students from pursuing science as a discipline, funding gets cut for studies and research for schools, children get stupider and less educated, the United States falls behind the rest of the world in scientific progress and it graduates into a new era of insulating fundamentalism before being usurped by a better empire (probably from the far east) within the next century.

And we know this is what happens when you turn your back on science and learning because it happened in the 11th and 12th centuries to the once opulent and intellectual golden age of Islam.
 
2012-11-19 04:10:02 PM

lennavan: Keep in mind, my argument is "deferring to experts is good." That's what people are trying to hammer on.


Now you're lying. Your argument has not been "deferring to experts is good." Your argument has been that "deferring to experts is good" is Rubio's position. And the full context of the little cherryypicked snippet you keep presenting as "proof" that you are right demonstrates that this isn't Rubio's position at all.

Seriously, believing that Rubio's answer is the equivalent of "let's trust scientists - they're the experts" requires willful ignorance, lack of reading comprehension, or some profound doublethink. Or some combination of all three. Your position here is no more honest than that of proponents of Intelligent Design when they tell us "it's not creationism!"
 
2012-11-19 04:10:08 PM

skullkrusher: Holocaust Agnostic: skullkrusher: Holocaust Agnostic: skullkrusher: Pharque-it: These idiots do not even know when their idol, Jesus, was born. Neither day nor year.

December 25, 0

suck on that!

Soometime in summer, 35BC.

how the fark is there snow on the manger in summertime in the middle east?

Why are shepherds out in the fields with their flocks on a friged winter night?

because God hired them as extras to fill out the Nativity scene


Yes, by sending an angel too them to tell them to leg it over their. An angel which found them in their fields.
 
2012-11-19 04:10:24 PM

Bacontastesgood: skullkrusher: please, he's an amateur.

LOL well played.


I just make my skullkrusher alt a whole shiatload smarter than my lennavan one
 
2012-11-19 04:10:46 PM

lennavan: thurstonxhowell: lennavan: There are more if you like:

That's you insisting that that's what people are hammering you on, not people hammering you on that. There's a difference.

So if I follow - I have been arguing one thing all along and people are hammering me on something else.

[strawman.jpg]

Hey, it's not often someone openly admits it. Kudos to you, sir.


Rubio: "I dunno, ask a scientist or a priest, either of them is just as good."

The thread: "But that's wrong, you farking retard."

You: "But don't you see guys? He admitted his own ignorance to a question! Clearly he's an enlightened individual."

The rest of the thread: "No, he's not, fark off."
 
2012-11-19 04:10:49 PM

StrangeQ: Jim_Callahan: StrangeQ: /3x10^8 m/s, metric ftw

2.998 E8 m/s for engineers.

I thought physics majors just used 'c' and left the variable in like for everything else? Find a way to throw pi and lambda in there and everyone's happy.

c = λE/(2πħ), there you go.

Well it depends. Once you get into cosmology and relativity we like to just set c = 1 and pretend it doesn't exist.


Oh, yeah, I remember that from when I took pure-physics quantum in undergrad.

TA: "So, we're going to set the units so that all these simplify to 1, on all these terms"

me: "Math doesn't work like...."

TA: "..."

me: "... fine. Let's solve this completely unrelated problem, then."

//And then they get mad at us for correlative dimensional analysis and treating d/dx as the division of two separable quantities.
 
2012-11-19 04:11:43 PM

Anti_illuminati: lennavan: I can't find a single portion of his statement I disagree with.

"Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries."

You do not disagree with this statement?


I think figuring out how existence came to be is one of the great mysteries. I of course did not read this as "7 days or 7 eras are the only two possibilities."
 
2012-11-19 04:12:02 PM
Mystery solved

www.gunnerkrigg.com
 
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