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2012-11-19 10:31:11 AM  
Life is to the moon
as facts to republicans
never really there
 
2012-11-19 10:33:58 AM  
Republicans love
money, guns, and industry
but they hate science
 
2012-11-19 10:35:43 AM  
3.bp.blogspot.com


Hey, might be a marginally better strategy than trying to pass bullshiat as science.
 
2012-11-19 10:35:58 AM  
♫ He's so ab-sur-urd... Ru-Ru-Rubio... ♫
 
2012-11-19 10:38:31 AM  
Reminds me of the Senator in Religulous that says, apparently as a somewhat positive thing, something to the effect of not having to have an IQ test to be elected to the senate.
 
2012-11-19 10:38:58 AM  
He's not even sure when him family left Cuba.
 
2012-11-19 10:42:44 AM  

SurfaceTension: Reminds me of the Senator in Religulous that says, apparently as a somewhat positive thing, something to the effect of not having to have an IQ test to be elected to the senate.


Hah, yeah, the best thing about that is how he laughs like he just made a great joke, but Bill keeps a straight face, and the smile drains off the senator.
 
2012-11-19 10:55:18 AM  
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-11-19 10:56:19 AM  
I can agree with that. Those scientists that say that they know the age of the universe, or less so, the age of the Earth, or how many planets or stars there are are overly presumptuous.

Although, we can have a decent guess about the Earth, you would think. Not like the mystery if life and all that.
 
2012-11-19 10:59:38 AM  
Considering all the rape sound bites in the past few weeks he is probably doing himself a favor by shutting up
 
2012-11-19 10:59:50 AM  
Farking geology... how does it work?
 
2012-11-19 11:01:32 AM  

cman: Considering all the rape sound bites in the past few weeks he is probably doing himself a favor by shutting up


Republicans - You'll like us more when we keep our farking stupid mouths shut.
 
2012-11-19 11:04:16 AM  
Reposted from another thread because it applies here, too...

One thing the Republicans don't seem to grasp:

Even if they nominate "a Hispanic," Mexicans generally HATE Cubans, and vice-versa. And there are lots more Chicanos/Mexicans/Mexican-Americans in the US than Cubans. Rubio might carry Florida, but "the hispanic vote" won't go Republican in any other state.

So, keep talking Rubio. Remind us why we voted for Obama again.
 
2012-11-19 11:06:45 AM  
How can you read that and not think "Iowa"? We don't have a ton of polling on this topic, but back in January 2011, Strategic National Consulting asked potential GOP caucus-goers about the origins of the earth. Sixty-eight percent of them believed the planet was created in six days. Forty-five percent believed that the earth was less than 10,000 years old -- something Rubio does not say here, but something that implies all human history can be known from counting the eras in the Bible. Link
 
2012-11-19 11:07:55 AM  
Marco Rubio: I'm not a scientist, man. I can tell you what recorded history says, I can tell you what the Bible says, but I think that's a dispute amongst theologians and I think it has nothing to do with the gross domestic product or economic growth of the United States. I think the age of the universe has zero to do with how our economy is going to grow. I'm not a scientist. I don't think I'm qualified to answer a question like that. At the end of the day, I think there are multiple theories out there on how the universe was created and I think this is a country where people should have the opportunity to teach them all. I think parents should be able to teach their kids what their faith says, what science says. Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries.

I'm struggling to see the poutrage here. I can't find a single portion of his statement I disagree with. Indeed, I wish all politicians echoed this exact sentiment.

He's right, he is not the correct person to answer this question, and the journalist should feel bad for asking a politician it.
 
2012-11-19 11:10:42 AM  
Rufio?

i249.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-19 11:11:56 AM  

lennavan: Marco Rubio: I'm not a scientist, man. I can tell you what recorded history says, I can tell you what the Bible says, but I think that's a dispute amongst theologians and I think it has nothing to do with the gross domestic product or economic growth of the United States. I think the age of the universe has zero to do with how our economy is going to grow. I'm not a scientist. I don't think I'm qualified to answer a question like that. At the end of the day, I think there are multiple theories out there on how the universe was created and I think this is a country where people should have the opportunity to teach them all. I think parents should be able to teach their kids what their faith says, what science says. Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries.

I'm struggling to see the poutrage here. I can't find a single portion of his statement I disagree with. Indeed, I wish all politicians echoed this exact sentiment.

He's right, he is not the correct person to answer this question, and the journalist should feel bad for asking a politician it.


NO!

There has to be some minimum baseline for acceptable farkwittage.

In order to not be sure how old the earth is you have to be in the "total farking moron with no business doing anything more important than sticking your cock in a toaster" level of farkwittage.

This isn't "a topic he shouldn't know about" this is "a topic that is basic knowledge in 2012".

He has demonstrate he is either too stupid to be trusted with anything or a pandering asshole.
 
2012-11-19 11:12:27 AM  
So much for Rubio claiming he wanted to move the GOP away from social values. You're just as bad as Huckabee. At least he's honest that he thinks Jebus made the planet and that's why he should be President. You claim to disavow these people yet you still play lip service to them, 4 years out from the next election! You're not changing a damn thing, you're still the problem.

Not that I expected anything else. The next GOP nominee will be even further to the right than Romney was, probably will openly run on the 47% bullshiat.
 
2012-11-19 11:13:51 AM  

lennavan: Marco Rubio: I'm not a scientist, man. I can tell you what recorded history says, I can tell you what the Bible says, but I think that's a dispute amongst theologians and I think it has nothing to do with the gross domestic product or economic growth of the United States. I think the age of the universe has zero to do with how our economy is going to grow. I'm not a scientist. I don't think I'm qualified to answer a question like that. At the end of the day, I think there are multiple theories out there on how the universe was created and I think this is a country where people should have the opportunity to teach them all. I think parents should be able to teach their kids what their faith says, what science says. Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries.

I'm struggling to see the poutrage here. I can't find a single portion of his statement I disagree with. Indeed, I wish all politicians echoed this exact sentiment.

He's right, he is not the correct person to answer this question, and the journalist should feel bad for asking a politician it.


To be fair, unless there was someone a few billion years ago to record the earths history, we truly shall never know. When can theorize to our hearts content, but we can never be 100% certain. We have yet to leave our own solar system; we have only seen other planets through telescopes. How are we most certain that our grasp is right when we have nothing tangible to compare it to?
 
2012-11-19 11:14:28 AM  
I think there are multiple theories out there on how the universe was created and I think this is a country where people should have the opportunity to teach them all.


It's not what "people" teach that I'm concerned about; it's what schools teach.
 
2012-11-19 11:22:02 AM  

Tigger: In order to not be sure how old the earth is you have to be in the "total farking moron with no business doing anything more important than sticking your cock in a toaster" level of farkwittage.


How many people in this thread do you think knew how old the Earth is before googling it? I'm thinkin, on the spot, without access to Google, I also would have said "Farked if I know, I'm not the right person to ask." And I'm a scientist.

Tigger: This isn't "a topic he shouldn't know about" this is "a topic that is basic knowledge in 2012".


I guess this is where I admit I had no idea how old the Earth was before I googled it. I assume you did though, right? Because that would be hilariously hypocritical of you and would totally undermine your point right now and everyone reading this back-and-forth who also didn't know the number off of the top of their head is going to agree with this run-on sentence. But I'm sure you knew.
 
2012-11-19 11:22:03 AM  

lennavan: He's right, he is not the correct person to answer this question, and the journalist should feel bad for asking a politician it.


Wrong...it speaks to someone's belief in science which to me is very important. It is a very valid question.

The age of the Earth is not a great mystery with competing theories. The earth is 4.5 billion years old. This is a fact.
 
2012-11-19 11:23:20 AM  

lennavan: But I'm sure you knew.


How is it possible to be educated and not know the age of the Earth?
 
2012-11-19 11:23:27 AM  
It is. But we can widdle it down to a few hundred million years.
 
2012-11-19 11:23:55 AM  
and IMHO, he was the GOP's best opportunity to re-brand themselves. They are truly farked.
 
2012-11-19 11:26:53 AM  

joshiz: Wrong...it speaks to someone's belief in science which to me is very important. It is a very valid question.


And he answered it by saying: "Ask a scientist." That fundamentally tells you he believes in science and that we should defer to science when asking such science questions.

If he answered it right, if he said 4.5 billion years, would that hold any weight? No. Because he is not a scientist. Put it this way, what if the journalist asked "what is the genetic cause of Down Syndrome" and he replied "an extra copy of Dyrk1a." Is that true or false? You have no idea. That some random politician answered a science question doesn't give it any extra weight. He's a farking politician, if you're getting science information from politicians, you're an idiot. So he's the smart one telling you to ask a farking scientist.
 
2012-11-19 11:28:22 AM  

lennavan: But I'm sure you knew.


Actually, I thought about it and came up with "about 4 billion years give or take" which is what I remember from the last time I had a science class. Turns out the estimate according to google is 4.54 billion years. That's a big farking difference than "I dunno, could be 7 days, could be more."
 
2012-11-19 11:28:24 AM  

lennavan: Marco Rubio: I'm not a scientist, man. I can tell you what recorded history says, I can tell you what the Bible says, but I think that's a dispute amongst theologians and I think it has nothing to do with the gross domestic product or economic growth of the United States. I think the age of the universe has zero to do with how our economy is going to grow. I'm not a scientist. I don't think I'm qualified to answer a question like that. At the end of the day, I think there are multiple theories out there on how the universe was created and I think this is a country where people should have the opportunity to teach them all. I think parents should be able to teach their kids what their faith says, what science says. Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries.

I'm struggling to see the poutrage here. I can't find a single portion of his statement I disagree with. Indeed, I wish all politicians echoed this exact sentiment.

He's right, he is not the correct person to answer this question, and the journalist should feel bad for asking a politician it.


Too chickenshiat to state a position isn't a "sentiment." It's being chickenshiat.
 
2012-11-19 11:29:09 AM  

GAT_00: How is it possible to be educated and not know the age of the Earth?


These are the same people who can't understand basic economics and who think that you can tip over an island if too many people are on it.

We have the government we deserve
 
2012-11-19 11:29:54 AM  

IronTom: I can agree with that. Those scientists that say that they know the age of the universe, or less so, the age of the Earth, or how many planets or stars there are are overly presumptuous.

Although, we can have a decent guess about the Earth, you would think. Not like the mystery if life and all that.


There is the issue of how far off the creationists are on the estimates. I don't know precisely what Romney's net worth is but I'm pretty sure it is more than 37 cents which is relatively speaking how far off they are.
 
2012-11-19 11:30:14 AM  

give me doughnuts: lennavan: Marco Rubio: I'm not a scientist, man. I can tell you what recorded history says, I can tell you what the Bible says, but I think that's a dispute amongst theologians and I think it has nothing to do with the gross domestic product or economic growth of the United States. I think the age of the universe has zero to do with how our economy is going to grow. I'm not a scientist. I don't think I'm qualified to answer a question like that. At the end of the day, I think there are multiple theories out there on how the universe was created and I think this is a country where people should have the opportunity to teach them all. I think parents should be able to teach their kids what their faith says, what science says. Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries.

I'm struggling to see the poutrage here. I can't find a single portion of his statement I disagree with. Indeed, I wish all politicians echoed this exact sentiment.

He's right, he is not the correct person to answer this question, and the journalist should feel bad for asking a politician it.

Too chickenshiat to state a position isn't a "sentiment." It's being chickenshiat.


Good god, man.
 
2012-11-19 11:30:45 AM  

Hoban Washburne: lennavan: But I'm sure you knew.

Actually, I thought about it and came up with "about 4 billion years give or take" which is what I remember from the last time I had a science class. Turns out the estimate according to google is 4.54 billion years. That's a big farking difference than "I dunno, could be 7 days, could be more."


But that would be 0.54 billion years off if you asked a scientist, like he answered.

give me doughnuts: Too chickenshiat to state a position isn't a "sentiment." It's being chickenshiat.


His position was "that is a science question, ask a farking scientist."
 
2012-11-19 11:34:59 AM  

lennavan: Tigger: In order to not be sure how old the earth is you have to be in the "total farking moron with no business doing anything more important than sticking your cock in a toaster" level of farkwittage.

How many people in this thread do you think knew how old the Earth is before googling it? I'm thinkin, on the spot, without access to Google, I also would have said "Farked if I know, I'm not the right person to ask." And I'm a scientist.

Tigger: This isn't "a topic he shouldn't know about" this is "a topic that is basic knowledge in 2012".

I guess this is where I admit I had no idea how old the Earth was before I googled it. I assume you did though, right? Because that would be hilariously hypocritical of you and would totally undermine your point right now and everyone reading this back-and-forth who also didn't know the number off of the top of their head is going to agree with this run-on sentence. But I'm sure you knew.


Of course I knew.

And you had "no idea" how old the earth was. So if I said "It's 6000 years" you would have no idea if that was close. What if I said "75 years"?
 
2012-11-19 11:35:02 AM  

Tigger: In order to not be sure how old the earth is you have to be in the "total farking moron with no business doing anything more important than sticking your cock in a toaster" level of farkwittage.


So you're saying I SHOULDN'T stick my cock in the toaster? But what if it's cold?
 
2012-11-19 11:37:25 AM  

lennavan: But that would be 0.54 billion years off if you asked a scientist, like he answered."


You're right. I'd be off by about 13.5 percent of the ESTIMATED age of the earth. Any guess as to how far off his "maybe 7 days" statement is? I'm no mathematician, but I can tell you it's a farkload. 

If he said "From what I remember, scientists agree it's about 4 billion years old," people wouldn't be giving him a hard time.
 
2012-11-19 11:38:31 AM  
Watching the first series of Connections should be enough to give a moment of clarity to anyone arguing that a basic curiosity of things married to an acceptance of provable truths isn't important to someone like a politician.

The only time imbeciles like him have ever given anything worthwhile to humanity is by pure farking accident.
 
2012-11-19 11:41:38 AM  

lennavan: Hoban Washburne: lennavan: But I'm sure you knew.

Actually, I thought about it and came up with "about 4 billion years give or take" which is what I remember from the last time I had a science class. Turns out the estimate according to google is 4.54 billion years. That's a big farking difference than "I dunno, could be 7 days, could be more."

But that would be 0.54 billion years off if you asked a scientist, like he answered.

give me doughnuts: Too chickenshiat to state a position isn't a "sentiment." It's being chickenshiat.

His position was "that is a science question, ask a farking scientist."


His position was, "I'm going to avoid giving any kind of definite answer because I'm afraid of offending any voting blocs."
Like I said: chickenshiat.
 
2012-11-19 11:47:55 AM  

lennavan: joshiz: Wrong...it speaks to someone's belief in science which to me is very important. It is a very valid question.

And he answered it by saying: "Ask a scientist." That fundamentally tells you he believes in science and that we should defer to science when asking such science questions.

If he answered it right, if he said 4.5 billion years, would that hold any weight? No. Because he is not a scientist. Put it this way, what if the journalist asked "what is the genetic cause of Down Syndrome" and he replied "an extra copy of Dyrk1a." Is that true or false? You have no idea. That some random politician answered a science question doesn't give it any extra weight. He's a farking politician, if you're getting science information from politicians, you're an idiot. So he's the smart one telling you to ask a farking scientist.


This is the most roundabout way of saying "I approve of uneducated politicians" I've ever seen.
 
2012-11-19 11:51:31 AM  

lennavan: And he answered it by saying: "Ask a scientist." That fundamentally tells you he believes in science and that we should defer to science when asking such science questions.


I read that as "ask a scientist or a clergyman" which is the wrong answer.
 
2012-11-19 11:54:21 AM  
Even "I dunno lol" would have been a better answer.
 
2012-11-19 11:54:43 AM  

cman: lennavan: Marco Rubio: I'm not a scientist, man. I can tell you what recorded history says, I can tell you what the Bible says, but I think that's a dispute amongst theologians and I think it has nothing to do with the gross domestic product or economic growth of the United States. I think the age of the universe has zero to do with how our economy is going to grow. I'm not a scientist. I don't think I'm qualified to answer a question like that. At the end of the day, I think there are multiple theories out there on how the universe was created and I think this is a country where people should have the opportunity to teach them all. I think parents should be able to teach their kids what their faith says, what science says. Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries.

I'm struggling to see the poutrage here. I can't find a single portion of his statement I disagree with. Indeed, I wish all politicians echoed this exact sentiment.

He's right, he is not the correct person to answer this question, and the journalist should feel bad for asking a politician it.

To be fair, unless there was someone a few billion years ago to record the earths history, we truly shall never know. When can theorize to our hearts content, but we can never be 100% certain. We have yet to leave our own solar system; we have only seen other planets through telescopes. How are we most certain that our grasp is right when we have nothing tangible to compare it to?


The age of the earth is calculated on the basis of known and measurable rates of decay of a variety of radioisotopes. We can be certain that the rate of decay is constant because, if it were otherwise, nuclear reactors and the internet would not work. Both of those are indeed relevant to the economic productivity of the US.

I can understand Rubio not wanting to offend his "base," and I can even be sympathetic to the suggestion that politicians can't be expected to know things like that (although frankly, I think they should), but we can be certain- within the limits of scientific certainty (which, you are correct, is never quite 100%) - that the earth is far, far older than just a few thousand years.
 
2012-11-19 11:55:32 AM  

Hoban Washburne: If he said "From what I remember, scientists agree it's about 4 billion years old," people wouldn't be giving him a hard time.


But he said "I'm not a scientist... I'm not qualified to answer that question" and that's truly poutrageous?

Hoban Washburne: You're right. I'd be off by about 13.5 percent of the ESTIMATED age of the earth. Any guess as to how far off his "maybe 7 days" statement is? I'm no mathematician, but I can tell you it's a farkload.


He never said the earth was 7 days old. Here's what happened, you read Rubio, you saw the Fark headline, and immediately assumed the headline was not misleading and he was just gonna derp. Turned out he didn't. This may shock you - Fark headlines are not always truthful. So that led you to completely misread what Rubio was saying.

He never said the earth was 7 days old.
 
2012-11-19 11:55:48 AM  

GAT_00: lennavan: joshiz: Wrong...it speaks to someone's belief in science which to me is very important. It is a very valid question.

And he answered it by saying: "Ask a scientist." That fundamentally tells you he believes in science and that we should defer to science when asking such science questions.

If he answered it right, if he said 4.5 billion years, would that hold any weight? No. Because he is not a scientist. Put it this way, what if the journalist asked "what is the genetic cause of Down Syndrome" and he replied "an extra copy of Dyrk1a." Is that true or false? You have no idea. That some random politician answered a science question doesn't give it any extra weight. He's a farking politician, if you're getting science information from politicians, you're an idiot. So he's the smart one telling you to ask a farking scientist.

This is the most roundabout way of saying "I approve of uneducated politicians" I've ever seen.


Education just leads to intellectual elitism

/can't have them smart folks a'runnin' things
 
2012-11-19 11:56:27 AM  

FloydA: The age of the earth is calculated on the basis of known and measurable rates of decay of a variety of radioisotopes. We can be certain that the rate of decay is constant because, if it were otherwise, nuclear reactors and the internet would not work. Both of those are indeed relevant to the economic productivity of the US.

I can understand Rubio not wanting to offend his "base," and I can even be sympathetic to the suggestion that politicians can't be expected to know things like that (although frankly, I think they should), but we can be certain- within the limits of scientific certainty (which, you are correct, is never quite 100%) - that the earth is far, far older than just a few thousand years.


And this is right after Rubio said he wasn't going to pander to the social conservatives any more. What else can this be? He's openly pandering to the morons.
 
2012-11-19 11:57:02 AM  

lennavan: Hoban Washburne: If he said "From what I remember, scientists agree it's about 4 billion years old," people wouldn't be giving him a hard time.

But he said "I'm not a scientist... I'm not qualified to answer that question" and that's truly poutrageous?

Hoban Washburne: You're right. I'd be off by about 13.5 percent of the ESTIMATED age of the earth. Any guess as to how far off his "maybe 7 days" statement is? I'm no mathematician, but I can tell you it's a farkload.

He never said the earth was 7 days old. Here's what happened, you read Rubio, you saw the Fark headline, and immediately assumed the headline was not misleading and he was just gonna derp. Turned out he didn't. This may shock you - Fark headlines are not always truthful. So that led you to completely misread what Rubio was saying.

He never said the earth was 7 days old.


No he dodged the question because he doesn't want to offend a metric shiatton of pig ignorant farkwits that he may need support from in future.

In short he's a pandering asshole.

Or he's just so dumb he shouldn't ever run for office.
 
2012-11-19 11:58:25 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Education just leads to intellectual elitism

/can't have them smart folks a'runnin' things


Yep. The legacy of Wallace and Nixon still lives strong.
 
2012-11-19 11:58:29 AM  

cman: To be fair, unless there was someone a few billion years ago to record the earths history, we truly shall never know. When can theorize to our hearts content, but we can never be 100% certain.


If you want to go down that path, you might as well say that we don't know anything ever, because our senses could be deceiving us.
 
2012-11-19 12:02:17 PM  
I can tell you what recorded history says, I can tell you what the Bible says, but I think that's a dispute amongst theologians

Who gives a flying fark what theologians say about this.
 
2012-11-19 12:03:08 PM  

sweetmelissa31: cman: To be fair, unless there was someone a few billion years ago to record the earths history, we truly shall never know. When can theorize to our hearts content, but we can never be 100% certain.

If you want to go down that path, you might as well say that we don't know anything ever, because our senses could be deceiving us.


j.wigflip.com
 
2012-11-19 12:03:08 PM  

GAT_00: lennavan: joshiz: Wrong...it speaks to someone's belief in science which to me is very important. It is a very valid question.

And he answered it by saying: "Ask a scientist." That fundamentally tells you he believes in science and that we should defer to science when asking such science questions.

If he answered it right, if he said 4.5 billion years, would that hold any weight? No. Because he is not a scientist. Put it this way, what if the journalist asked "what is the genetic cause of Down Syndrome" and he replied "an extra copy of Dyrk1a." Is that true or false? You have no idea. That some random politician answered a science question doesn't give it any extra weight. He's a farking politician, if you're getting science information from politicians, you're an idiot. So he's the smart one telling you to ask a farking scientist.

This is the most roundabout way of saying "I approve of uneducated politicians" I've ever seen.



This is the strangest way of saying "deferring to experts is bad."
 
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