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(The New York Times)   General Petraeus is a phony hero for a phony war, we need generals that are psychotic in their drive to kill enemy soldiers and subjugate enemy nations   (nytimes.com) divider line 170
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2012-11-19 07:56:09 PM
LUCIAN K. TRUSCOTT IV, read his Grand Father's wiki. Look for Grad Kid wiki and fell flat. Another arm chair wanna be. Col. Lewis Millet, farkin balls of steal. Nothing wrong with a psychotic. As long as he's pointed toward the enemy.
 
2012-11-19 07:59:30 PM

One Bad Apple: Slaxl: we need Generals that are psychotic in their drive to kill enemy soldiers and subjugate enemy nations

...and hear the lamentation of their women?

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I'm pretty sure that's "Peel the lamination off the women"


You are all wrong, it is...
"and make love to the woman who cleans your laminate"
 
2012-11-19 08:18:54 PM
We really can't fight wars like we did in the olde days
Too many media types now running around on the battlefield releasing uncensored material.
 
2012-11-19 08:42:10 PM

unlikely: Again, I really want to know why it matters who he puts his penis in.


Because that is the level, like it or not, that the average 'Merican functions on. It's easy to understand.


www.planet-familyguy.com
 
2012-11-19 08:43:52 PM

netcentric: Petraeus looks like a CPA or someone who does your taxes on the side. He's a wussbag.
Dinner party General

Now this guy, he'll shoot you with a tank round, then run your body over. Then stop and get out and stab your flat corpse. Then radio the Airforce to napalm the area once he is clear.

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/Tal Russo
//doesn't do dinner parties
///you farked with our consulate?
////update your status from 'hide' to 'run'


The General you're looking for is James Mattis, aka the current reincarnation of Mars the War God. "I come in peace," he told them. "I didn't bring artillery. But I'm pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you fark with me, I'll kill you all."

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2012-11-19 09:14:25 PM
General Failure reading drive CIA.
 
2012-11-19 09:28:41 PM

AssAsInAssassin: We need a general who walks into the psychiatrist's office and says "Shrink, I want to kill. I mean, I wanna, I wanna kill. Kill. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean kill, Kill, KILL, KILL."


Apparently, you can find all the generals you need dumping garbage.
 
2012-11-19 09:45:09 PM
Ugh. That rant was painfully stupid.
 
2012-11-19 10:17:23 PM

Tumunga: AssAsInAssassin: We need a general who walks into the psychiatrist's office and says "Shrink, I want to kill. I mean, I wanna, I wanna kill. Kill. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean kill, Kill, KILL, KILL."

Apparently, you can find all the generals you need dumping garbage.



Well, the alternative, according to TFOP's author, is to look around for meanest, nastiest, ugliest mother-rapers and father-stabbers...


/"The Farking Opinion Piece" 
//I love the moron's deep insult: "General Petraeus probably flosses."
///"Owal hyzhiene? Dat stubff is*whistle* faw pussies*whistle*!"
 
2012-11-19 11:08:14 PM

Fissile: The War Nerd explains why Lucian Truscott IV is full of shiat Long, but a good read.


Thanks for posting that.
 
2012-11-19 11:23:03 PM
So he knocks generals who work on their uniforms, and likes Patton, who was basically Mr. Designs-his-own-uniforms...
 
2012-11-19 11:43:01 PM

swangoatman: hdhale: RexTalionis: [i1212.photobucket.com image 500x693]

I'll see your Sherman and raise you a Grant:

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No bullshiat--grab the enemy, kill them. Detested pomp and strutting about. The perfect foil for Robert E. Lee, Grant would have been a brilliant commander in any era.

My grandfather was there when Lee surrendered to Grant. Here is his words directly from his diary...
"Uncle Billy was too busy down south burning his way toward us to take the sword from Lee so Dear Father rode in on his horse,looking tired, Unshaven,boots tinged with mud and blood he took Lee's sword then returned it. He told us men not to brag in our glory but to share in the pain of our fellow Americans ,who we were once again brothers too. We later ate the best popcorn and coffee we had ever had. It was then that I found the most incredible mushrooms. Johnny Reb taught me how to smoke it. It is to this that I owe my longevity. It was then too that I first raped my Captains ripe ass,all the way back to New York City. Good Times"


I thought Grant was a drunk and had one of the most corrupt presidential administrations we've had. Hmph, shows what I learned in class.
 
2012-11-20 12:20:42 AM

JackieRabbit: Right in the first paragraph, I started thinking this guy didn't know what he was talking about. I think we can safely say that our first strutting peacock of a general was probably Geo. A. Custer. Then came Teddy Roosevelt and I'm sure many others in between.


Or Washington. Our strutters go way back.
 
2012-11-20 12:35:18 AM
Never mind.
 
2012-11-20 12:58:22 AM

ADHD Librarian: One Bad Apple: Slaxl: we need Generals that are psychotic in their drive to kill enemy soldiers and subjugate enemy nations

...and hear the lamentation of their women?

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 530x340]


I'm pretty sure that's "Peel the lamination off the women"

You are all wrong, it is...
"and make love to the woman who cleans your laminate"


Nicely done.
 
2012-11-20 01:18:59 AM

AccuJack: [wh40k.lexicanum.com image 644x599]


Amateurs.



"My penis is a wolf head
Your argument is invalid"?

/achoo
 
2012-11-20 02:44:50 AM

DeathCipris: mbillips: Well, if there's anyone whose opinion I respect on what makes a good general, it's journalist and author Lucian K. Truscott IV. I mean, his granddaddy was a successful general. That kind of thing is genetic.

I hope he'll do a column soon on how HE would have won the Iraq war way faster than that preening wanker Petraeus.

This Lucian guy is a douche of the highest caliber, who if pressed, knows nothing in the field of strategy and waging war.


It's pretty obvious he knows nothing about the difference between fighting WWII and fighting an asymmetrical war like Petraeus had to fight in Afghanistan. I'd like to see his suggestion for storming the beaches of a nation that lacks them, or island-hopping across the Tigris-Euphrates river under a hail of RPG fire.
 
2012-11-20 04:21:33 AM
I'm sure by now this has become a pretty healthy Pile on Lucian thread, but I'll throw my hat in the ring anyway...

1. I have to start by saying I don't understand his obsession with how US generals dress. Lucian Truscott IV Jr. Sr. Esq. Abridged seems to have confused our current military for the Confederate army, circa 1864, when it was acceptable to wear what amounted to rags (albeit for a different reason than fashions sake). If spending inordinate amounts of time shining medals and measuring the distance between ribbons qualifies Petraeus as a preening, pompous ass, then I've got to say my primary MOS may have been Infantry, but my secondary MOS (along with everyone else in my company, at least) was Preening, Pompous Ass.
I don't know what distorted lens Lord Truscott is looking through when he meatgazes at the military, but he's obviously not seeing the part where everyone is required to spend time and make their uniforms look immaculate. We had formations every so often where all we did was get our Class A's perfect and then show them off to our company commander. That's it. No other purpose than to look pretty. And when I came down with a jacket with a couple improper creases? Guess what, Lord Truscott, I spent the rest of the afternoon running water cans to the end of a field, dumping them out into the dirt, crawling back through the mud, then filling up the water can and doing it again. All. Afternoon. Long. If your reason for hating on Petraeus is because his Class A's look spectacular, you've got to widen that hate to include a whole lot more than the good general.

2. Reading through (and maybe I missed something), it appears that Lord Triscuits experience with Petraeus amounts to "part of the fall of 2003," one interview (afaik), and probably several photo-ops that Truscott viewed online wherein Petraeus was actually taking care to look good which cemented the idea in Truscott's mind that Petraeus was a human peacock. I can't claim any personal encounters with Petraeus. I've only been in the same room as him once (under less than favorable conditions), but some of my superiors had the chance to meet him, and they had nothing but praise. I believe that is the ultimate distinction for a leader, and what Viscount Truscott fails to grasp in his article is if the opinion of the men who serve under a military leader is extraordinarily high, then that leader can't really have failed too hard to do what he's supposed to do; lead.
Truscott makes the incredibly broad claim that there haven't been any good, non-showboating generals since the last "real" general who just happens to be his grandfather (what an odd coincidence). He points out three or four big name four-star generals since WWII, and this is somehow supposed to prove that the additional 160-odd four-star generals in the Army since 1945 were also pieces of shiat. Unless this guy is the ultimate war biographer, and has researched every last general on that list, if even ONE of them was a good, stand-up combat leader (and I'm willing to bet he overlooked more than a few), then he has done a massive disservice to not only every last general, but all the men who served under their command (there are a couple officers I know personally whose honor I would physically fight for if someone made the claims about them that Truscott is making about Petraeus).
Like I said, my experience with Petraeus is limited, but from what I can tell, so is Baron Truscott and his one interview and month long Iraq visit. I will say this. When I was in Iraq at the same time as Petraeus, and we felt constrained and hampered by extremely restrictive ROEs (which I'm sure Petraeus had a hand in), we weren't appreciating the whole counter-insurgency system. We wanted to fight, and the rules weren't letting us. However, when the peace was shattered about six months in, and Baghdad went farking bananas, Petraeus was down to drop the motherfarking hammer. It's due to Petraeus, in his non-tack spitting glory, that the ROE was lifted (not loosened, but entirely erased) and we were let off the leash to fight unrestricted, kinetic warfare the way we had been trained. It's due to that change in policy that I most likely owe my life. Pretty good for a pompous school-boy of a general.

3. I won't harp on it for long, because it's late and I'm tie-tie, and I'm sure most other people here have hit the nail on the head more than once, but claiming that there haven't been any "real" wars since WWII, and that somehow Iraq/Afghanistan are phony or fake is the final nail in the coffin for Duke Truscotts op-ed. True, we didn't go to Iraq or Afghanistan solely to fark shiat up, but it really takes someone whose never been in either place, and was never in any danger of going, to cast aspersions on the conflict and claim that all the combat that has gone on in either place (and there is a LOT of it that isn't seen on CNN) doesn't count, and doesn't make it a "real" war. Any time there's sustained combat, it's a war, your highnessness. Just because there's no Lord Truscott fighting this one (as the current Lord Truscott prefers to critique the uniforms of the warlike plebs rather than endure the inconveniences of warfare such as occasional danger and consorting with the riff-raff and ruffians of the armed forces), doesn't mean combat is now less lethal, less damaging, or less dangerous than any other "actual war" in human history.
 
2012-11-20 07:43:56 AM
In a 'civilized' society, the preening peacock will always be the favorite, in any job. It's how civilization collapse and make way for new civilizations. It's their 'death gene'.

As for the rest of the article, the guy put in his time and made some good decisions and probably saved a lot of American lives. Also, our goal was not to conquer Iraq, it was to avenge an imagined slight to an insane puppet president's father... and to make Blackwater fat with taxpayer dollars. That ALL it was about and it's not the military's fault.

There is nothing the Right seems to hate more than a real war hero. I guess because so many leader on the Right were draft dodgers.
 
2012-11-20 06:54:04 PM

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