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(The New York Times)   General Petraeus is a phony hero for a phony war, we need generals that are psychotic in their drive to kill enemy soldiers and subjugate enemy nations   (nytimes.com) divider line 169
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2012-11-19 10:25:39 AM  
Again, I really want to know why it matters who he puts his penis in.
 
2012-11-19 10:44:17 AM  

unlikely: Again, I really want to know why it matters who he puts his penis in.



If a man charged with keeping our highest level foreign secrets can't keep a secret, much less avoid temptation, then he probably shouldn't get a top secret clearance much less head of the CIA.  But, that said, I don't really care about the sleeping with part.  I'm more interested in the web of women with high end Washingtonians.  The story is fascinating if nothing more.
 
2012-11-19 10:44:22 AM  
we need Generals that are psychotic in their drive to kill enemy soldiers and subjugate enemy nations

...and hear the lamentation of their women?
 
2012-11-19 10:45:47 AM  
Also...there is the Bhengazi thing...where the General's vagina said that the CIA was keeping prisoners...which it isn't supposed to be doing.  And that the attack on the consulate was related to prisoners.  So, yeah, his pillow talk is now a state security risk.
 
2012-11-19 10:46:12 AM  
They're not just supposed to shoot the bastards, they're supposed to cut out their living guts and use them to grease the treads on their tanks. They're supposed to murder those lousy Afghan bastards by the bushel.
 
2012-11-19 10:48:39 AM  

PainInTheASP: They're not just supposed to shoot the bastards, they're supposed to cut out their living guts and use them to grease the treads on their tanks. They're supposed to murder those lousy Afghan bastards by the bushel.



Rommel, you magnificent bastard.  I READ YOUR BOOK!!!
 
2012-11-19 10:55:26 AM  
A Phony Hero for a Phony War
By LUCIAN K. TRUSCOTT IV
 

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2012-11-19 10:56:18 AM  
"Well, don't let that trouble you," General Petraeus continued with a careless flick of his wrist. "Just pass on the work I assign you to somebody else and trust to luck. We call that delegation and responsibility. Somewhere down near the lowest level of this coordinated organization I run are people who get the work done when it reaches them, and everything manages to run along smoothly without too much effort on my part. I suppose that's because I am a good executive. Nothing we do in this large department of ours is really very important, and there's never any rush. On the other hand, it is important that we let people know we do a great deal of it. Let me know if you find yourself shorthanded. I've already put in a requisition for two majors, four captains and sixteen lieutenants to give you a hand. While none of the work we do is very important, it is important that we do a great deal of it. Don't you agree?"
 
2012-11-19 11:02:33 AM  
Yeah, we need more General LeMays running around, that's the problem.
 
2012-11-19 11:26:08 AM  

unlikely: Again, I really want to know why it matters who he puts his penis in.


The way I've had it best explained, is someone who is having an affair is more prone to being blackmailed, which is not a good position to be in for someone with an extremely high security clearance.
 
2012-11-19 11:35:57 AM  
images.sodahead.com
 
2012-11-19 11:37:30 AM  

Slaxl: we need Generals that are psychotic in their drive to kill enemy soldiers and subjugate enemy nations

...and hear the lamentation of their women?


1.bp.blogspot.com


I'm pretty sure that's "Peel the lamination off the women"
 
2012-11-19 11:44:12 AM  
By LUCIAN K. TRUSCOTT IV

I don't think that I can take anyone with a name like that seriously.
 
2012-11-19 11:47:37 AM  

sigdiamond2000: By LUCIAN K. TRUSCOTT IV


His grandfather was Kind of A Big Deal during WWII, and I believe he himself graduated West Point.
 
2012-11-19 12:41:38 PM  

unlikely: Again, I really want to know why it matters who he puts his penis in.


It doesn't matter who. It only matters that he had an affair. Whoever he had an affair with could have blackmailed him. If you don't accept that, then defer to Petraeus himself. Clearly Petraeus realized it mattered, that's why he resigned.
 
2012-11-19 12:49:25 PM  
I think the Department of Defense should be returned to defense and not so much for offense
 
2012-11-19 12:51:01 PM  

GAT_00: Yeah, we need more General LeMays running around, that's the problem.


And here I was getting ready to find a picture of Curtis LeMay for this thread..

/shakes tiny fists of indiscriminate firebombing rage
 
2012-11-19 12:56:52 PM  
The fact is that none of our generals have led us to a victory since men like Patton and my grandfather, Lucian King Truscott Jr., stormed the beaches of North Africa and southern France with blood in their eyes and military murder on their minds.

I guess Schwarzkopf and Horner were just sitting around the desert with their thumbs up their butts.
 
2012-11-19 01:08:31 PM  
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2012-11-19 01:28:34 PM  

cmunic8r99: The fact is that none of our generals have led us to a victory since men like Patton and my grandfather, Lucian King Truscott Jr., stormed the beaches of North Africa and southern France with blood in their eyes and military murder on their minds.

I guess Schwarzkopf and Horner were just sitting around the desert with their thumbs up their butts.


Yeah, everybody thought that was really weird during Gulf War I. They just kept sniffing their thumbs, then sniffing each other's. Really weird stuff. Whole news conferences where that's all they did.
 
2012-11-19 01:31:51 PM  
I've got just the man for the job!
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His precious bodily fluids are secure sir!
 
2012-11-19 01:45:42 PM  
I like the headline.
 
2012-11-19 01:47:52 PM  
Military "leaders" are nothing but political puppets.
 
2012-11-19 01:48:17 PM  

I_C_Weener


PainInTheASP: They're not just supposed to shoot the bastards, they're supposed to cut out their living guts and use them to grease the treads on their tanks. They're supposed to murder those lousy Afghan bastards by the bushel.


Rommel, you magnificent bastard. I READ YOUR BOOK!!!


We might need leaders of a certain type, and it appears that Petraeus doesn't fit the Patton.
 
2012-11-19 01:49:04 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-19 01:50:06 PM  

unlikely: Again, I really want to know why it matters who he puts his penis in.


Lapse in judgement.....the trait you do not want in the guy who runs the CIA.
 
2012-11-19 01:50:07 PM  
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2012-11-19 01:51:36 PM  
I wanna, I wanna kill.

Kill. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and guts and veins in my teeth
 
2012-11-19 01:52:20 PM  
It's always nice to read something written from the asshole's perspective.
 
2012-11-19 01:54:37 PM  
Psychotic generals win wars as quickly as possible.

That could be for the best.
 
2012-11-19 01:54:43 PM  
The Colbert Report soap opera bit on this was great.

"Afghanistan? Really? Don't you think that if we were still fighting a war there, the news would be reporting on that instead of this bullshiat?"

Right out of the park.
 
2012-11-19 01:55:12 PM  
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sammyk: I've got just the man for the job!
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His precious bodily fluids are secure sir!


amindtat: [i.imgur.com image 500x376]


Fark Rye For Many Whores: [media.cinemasquid.com image 824x464]


probesport: I wanna, I wanna kill.

Kill. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and guts and veins in my teeth


RexTalionis: [i1212.photobucket.com image 500x693]


Sherman
Strangelove
Apocalypse Now

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand...................

Alice's Restaurant for the holidays.

I think that's a wrap here people.
 
2012-11-19 01:56:10 PM  
www.leadership-with-you.com

Ain't laughing
 
2012-11-19 01:56:20 PM  
Agreed. We've been at war for more than 10 years, and haven't even killed a million people.

However we've pissed off a billion people that we will probably need to kill later, but who will die of old age due to our inefficiency.
 
2012-11-19 01:56:56 PM  

RexTalionis: [i1212.photobucket.com image 500x693]


I'll see your Sherman and raise you a Grant:

faculty.css.edu

No bullshiat--grab the enemy, kill them. Detested pomp and strutting about. The perfect foil for Robert E. Lee, Grant would have been a brilliant commander in any era.
 
2012-11-19 01:58:03 PM  
Sounds like the "they wouldn't let us win" narrative from First Blood is being trotted out for Iraq and Afghanistan. Sure, we dropped more bombs on Vietnam than the entirety of all nations in WWII dropped on each other, but we just didn't do it enough. More bombs would have made them become a free market economy with one-party rule... sooner.

Afghanistan could easily be subjugated if only we were willing to be more brutal than the Soviets. We just aren't raping enough.
 
2012-11-19 01:58:26 PM  

I_C_Weener: unlikely: Again, I really want to know why it matters who he puts his penis in.


If a man charged with keeping our highest level foreign secrets can't keep a secret, much less avoid temptation, then he probably shouldn't get a top secret clearance much less head of the CIA.  But, that said, I don't really care about the sleeping with part.  I'm more interested in the web of women with high end Washingtonians.  The story is fascinating if nothing more.


Pretty much on in agreement with this, but the web-of-women is somewhat disgusting and scary at the same time. Some self-claimed-ambassador twit with a phony charity gets to rub elbows with people charged with the responsibilities of a 4-star general and who knows who else?

Fark me, this whole thing sucks....
 
2012-11-19 01:59:15 PM  

dramboxf: His grandfather was Kind of A Big Deal during WWII, and I believe he himself graduated West Point.



Which was about as far as he could go riding on his name alone. He's been freelancing as a writer and screenwriter (see IMDB) for a while now.

If you want a real assessment on the leadership of the US Army take a look at the book Tom Ricks wrote (he seemed to have a high opinion of Petraeus's abilities).
 
2012-11-19 01:59:20 PM  
 
2012-11-19 02:00:08 PM  

AcneVulgaris: Agreed. We've been at war for more than 10 years, and haven't even killed a million people.

However we've pissed off a billion people that we will probably need to kill later, but who will die of old age due to our inefficiency.


Dont forget old age there is in their 40s.
 
2012-11-19 02:01:12 PM  
FTFA: "Though strutting military peacocks go back to Alexander's time, our first was MacArthur..."

Right in the first paragraph, I started thinking this guy didn't know what he was talking about. I think we can safely say that our first strutting peacock of a general was probably Geo. A. Custer. Then came Teddy Roosevelt and I'm sure many others in between.

I seen Petraeus interviewed. He didn't strike me as a strutting peacock or a self-proclaimed hero. He seemed measured, quiet, and contemplative. He is very well respected by command and troops alike. So I must conclude that Mr. Truscott is a dick.
 
2012-11-19 02:01:20 PM  

I_C_Weener: Also...there is the Bhengazi thing...where the General's vagina said that the CIA was keeping prisoners...which it isn't supposed to be doing.  And that the attack on the consulate was related to prisoners.  So, yeah, his pillow talk is now a state security risk.


KentuckyBob: [www.leadership-with-you.com image 332x450]

Ain't laughing


Are there conspiracy theories about Patton's death? Poor guy never even made it out of Europe!
 
2012-11-19 02:01:28 PM  

groppet: AcneVulgaris: Agreed. We've been at war for more than 10 years, and haven't even killed a million people.

However we've pissed off a billion people that we will probably need to kill later, but who will die of old age due to our inefficiency.

Dont forget old age there is in their 40s.


Oh hell, there's no WAY we'll catch up then. I suppose they'll teach their offspring to need killing too.
 
2012-11-19 02:05:28 PM  

Rapmaster2000: More bombs would have made them become a free market economy with one-party rule... sooner.


You really think that's what that war was about?

Really.
 
2012-11-19 02:05:49 PM  

unlikely: Again, I really want to know why it matters who he puts his penis in.


People have done a good job of trying to explain it to you, it seems you just don't like their explanations.
 
2012-11-19 02:05:54 PM  
Thank you NYTimes for another fine example of what constitutes American "journalism."
 
2012-11-19 02:06:08 PM  
Maybe we should call Petraeus "Old Blood And Nuts..."
 
2012-11-19 02:07:04 PM  
The fact is that none of our generals have led us to a victory since men like Patton and my grandfather, Lucian King Truscott Jr., stormed the beaches of North Africa and southern France with blood in their eyes and military murder on their minds.

Quite true. That is how you WIN wars. If you don't want to win, don't get into them. It's revolting that these present day pussy generals don't put their foot down and tell these idiot politicians that war IS NOT a surgical instrument. You can't kill individual ants with a sledgehammer. You can't go halfway. And the tragedy is that the finest people our society produces are sent into these unwinnable situations and get killed or maimed FOR NOTHING.

Fight to win or don't go. If the politicians won't accept that, the Generals should resign rather than agree. But the bureaucrat generals love their status and perks too much, and don't want to give it up, so they betray the fighting men and agree to these ridiculous Rules of Engagement. And our people bleed. For nothing.



I guess Schwarzkopf and Horner were just sitting around the desert with their thumbs up their butts.

Those two did their jobs. It was that pussy Powell who stopped them from anililating the Republican Guard. He was afraid we'ed "look bad". Fark him.
 
2012-11-19 02:07:12 PM  
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2012-11-19 02:08:30 PM  

sodomizer: Rapmaster2000: More bombs would have made them become a free market economy with one-party rule... sooner.

You really think that's what that war was about?

Really.


No, it's a summary of the result which isn't half-bad.
 
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