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(Christian Science Monitor)   As the violence in their country escalates, ordinary Israelis ponder the question famously posed by Leo Tolstoy: "War. What is it good for?"   (csmonitor.com) divider line 16
    More: Interesting, Israelis, Iron Dome, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, ground attacks, Ashdod, violence  
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2012-11-19 11:02:55 AM  
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acanuck: FTFA: "If you ask me, I think we have to destroy Gaza. I think they are animals, not people," he says, pulling at his new wedding ring as he stood outside the damaged apartment yesterday. "It's the right thing to do.".


Israel: Jewish Problems - German Solutions
2012-11-19 10:54:08 AM  
4 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: "If you ask me, I think we have to destroy Gaza. I think they are animals, not people,"

That sounds strangely familiar


Israel should change it's name to "Irony".
2012-11-19 10:57:22 AM  
3 votes:

Cewley: Good god y'all.


It's Israel, you have to say "Good G-d, y'all"
2012-11-19 06:22:39 PM  
2 votes:

The Larch: The First Four Katy Perry Albums: ISRAEL IS A BUNCH OF NAZI POOPY HEAD RACISTS!!

FREE PALESTINE, BEST COUNTRY IN WORLD!!!

Israelis are not Nazis. The're just your standard run-of-the-mill right-wing ultra-nationalists who are stuck in an outmoded 19th century view of the world, practicing apartheid and priming themselves for the final genocide of their enemies.

Not that this makes Palestinians good. They're bastards too.



So vote Likud?
2012-11-19 10:59:28 AM  
2 votes:
How about self defense? Random rocket attacks on your civilian populace tends to produce war.
2012-11-19 10:10:26 AM  
2 votes:
Good god y'all.
2012-11-19 12:11:06 PM  
1 votes:
Tolstoy's mistress had a good point.
2012-11-19 11:27:36 AM  
1 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: "If you ask me, I think we have to destroy Gaza. I think they are animals, not people,"

That sounds strangely familiar


Well, I think we all agree that it's the the liberal peacenik's fault that right-wing ultra-nationalists justify genocide this way. You could even say that liberals are the real racists.

Wars have always been fought against enemy tribes. One group of people finds another group of people that doesn't smoke the same kind of cigarettes (or whatever) and then kills them and take what they want from the carnage. You see some guy smoking a Camel unfiltered, you shoot him in the face and take his kids home to be slaves, that kind of thing.

But a few hundred years ago the liberals had to get involved, and decided we're all people of the same human tribe, and shooting people in the face is wrong unless its morally justified by something greater than avarice, and all that multicultural PC crap. Thus, liberal thinking is a big part of the reason for the right wing ultra-nationalist reactionary thinking, which was forced to escalate the justification of war to make it acceptable. Now, about the only way you can have a war is by saying that the enemy isn't even part of the human tribe, so it's OK to kill them. The civilians back home pretend theyve sent soldiers out to butcher animals, not men.

And that liberal thinking about war is why we've gone from historical accounts like The Iliad, where the enemies were still very much noble men of honor and decency but it was OK to kill them because they rode horses, to today when right wing ultra nationalists like the Nazis and the Zionists can only justify the carnage by saying that their enemies are less than dogs.
2012-11-19 11:21:56 AM  
1 votes:

hdhale: Thorak: Joe Blowme: How about self defense? Random rocket attacks on your civilian populace tends to produce war.

Responding with random rocket attacks on THEIR civilian populace means you don't actually have an issue with their method, and have no claim whatsoever to any moral superiority.

It's the equivalent to seeing a guy punch your wheelchair-bound girlfriend in the face, so you punch HIS wheelchair-bound girlfriend in the face. Congrats, you're both beating on crippled women. That totally
solves the problem.

Except that it's more like the guy is hiding behind his wheelchair bound girlfriend taking pokes at your wheelchair bound girlfriend hoping you'll try to punch back, so he can point a finger and claim you are no better than he is, when clearly he isn't.

Worse, your wheelchair bound girlfriend looks at you and pleads for you to stop him and no one in the crowd watching offers to help.

Fark, the crowd is convinced you are no better than the other guy looks at you with a disapproving eye every time you try to punch him. Occasionally, one them makes noises like they are going to punch you.



I blame Britain and the UN for giving them girlfriends in the first place. Neither of those assholes could get a date on their own.

/Isreal is not in the right
//but they are not in the wrong, either
///but they are certainly doing everything they can to perpetuate the problem
2012-11-19 11:21:01 AM  
1 votes:
War.

War never changes.
2012-11-19 11:15:50 AM  
1 votes:

DrBear: Friend only to the undertaker.

I didn't know Leo Tolstoy was Edwin Starr's pen name.


Don't feel bad, she didn't either:
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2012-11-19 11:03:42 AM  
1 votes:

Joe Blowme: How about self defense? Random rocket attacks on your civilian populace tends to produce war.


Responding with random rocket attacks on THEIR civilian populace means you don't actually have an issue with their method, and have no claim whatsoever to any moral superiority.

It's the equivalent to seeing a guy punch your wheelchair-bound girlfriend in the face, so you punch HIS wheelchair-bound girlfriend in the face. Congrats, you're both beating on crippled women. That totally solves the problem.
2012-11-19 11:01:54 AM  
1 votes:
I heard he wanted to name his book that but his mistress didn't like it and insisted he change it to the title we know today.
2012-11-19 11:00:44 AM  
1 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: "If you ask me, I think we have to destroy Gaza. I think they are animals, not people,"

That sounds strangely familiar


cant someone think of a solution to this never ending problem which would settle this question once and for all? some sort of "never again come up again" kind of solution, like, yknow, a last solution? that doesnt sound catchy tho. anyone help me out here?
2012-11-19 11:00:34 AM  
1 votes:

acanuck: FTFA: "If you ask me, I think we have to destroy Gaza. I think they are animals, not people," he says, pulling at his new wedding ring as he stood outside the damaged apartment yesterday. "It's the right thing to do."

It's OK, folks. He's just citing the Talmud and what's taught regarding ALL non-Jews. But, it's forbidden for you to know that.


Tribes acting tribal is not exactly news.

Contemplating further Lebensraum and "final solutions"? Comedy gold.
2012-11-19 10:56:50 AM  
1 votes:
Took notes, did ya?
 
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