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(The New York Times)   Conservatives in Wyoming-America's least populous state, 86% white-stunned by Romney's loss   (nytimes.com) divider line 187
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2012-11-19 08:08:59 AM  
"It spooks me," said James Yates, 46, a self-made businessman who owns 15 restaurants and employs about 1,000 people. "The young vote and certainly the minority vote went toward the perspective of 'What can I get?' Where the government runs everything, it's completely not sustainable. They don't see that."


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2012-11-19 08:27:40 AM  
Poor Wyoming, despite being disproportionately represented by the electoral college, still, no one has ever or will ever give a shiat what you do.
 
2012-11-19 08:29:23 AM  
Wyoming isn't as derpy-red as you'd think. They've had plenty of Democratic leaders and just came off eight years of a Democratic governor who got almost 70% of the vote six years ago.
 
2012-11-19 08:44:32 AM  
It's really rather simple. Beyond your state's borders, the country isn't entirely populated by people like you Wyomingites.
 
2012-11-19 09:16:46 AM  
There's a lot of crazy in WY. This state's Democrats would make great Republicans elsewhere. Lately, the nuttiest of the nutters are attempting a RINO purge of state government Republicans. They call themselves CROW and this is the crap they believe: CROW
 
2012-11-19 09:20:46 AM  

dr_blasto: There's a lot of crazy in WY. This state's Democrats would make great Republicans elsewhere. Lately, the nuttiest of the nutters are attempting a RINO purge of state government Republicans. They call themselves CROW and this is the crap they believe: CROW


1. The Sovereign Nature of God - That God necessarily exists, being the Creator of a purposeful universe, physical laws, and a transcendent moral order, from which all the liberties, rights and laws of men and nations properly derive.

2. The Imperfect Nature of Man - That the established Judeo-Christian understanding of human nature insures a humble recognition of man's imperfections, which separate him from God to the extent that earthly governments are necessary for the order and protection of human societies, though not in themselves sufficient to perfect or save men or nations.

3. The Limited Nature of Government - That governments are empowered by the consent of the governed, and are therefore limited, constitutional and representative, being only objectively good and just in direct proportion to the degree of virtue to be found within the governed.

4. The Family as Foundation of Civilization - That the fundamental unit of civilization is the family- deriving from the marriage of one man and one woman-rather than the individual; that secondary institutions which complement or fortify the family are both natural and necessary for the preservation of civilization.

5. The Primary Purpose of Government - That the first duty of government is the security of its people and their God-given freedoms, requiring the defense of its sovereign borders from external threats, the preservation of the peace of its internal society and institutions, and the protection of human life from conception to natural death.

6. The Federal Principle - That the optimal justice and efficiency of a civilized society occurs when nothing is enacted at a higher level of government than is necessary.

7. The Genius of the U. S. Constitution - That the original intent of the U. S. Constitution should be observed in practice and interpretation; that all powers not expressly enumerated to the federal government are reserved to the sovereign states and to the people.

8. The Decentralization of Power - That political powers should be divided, counter-balanced, and diffused; that government should never undertake to do for individuals and institutions what they may reasonably do for themselves.

9. The Fiscal Imperative - That a free economy depends upon the secure ubiquity of private property; that taxation must never be levied without a legitimate need for revenue to perform the limited tasks of government; that government expenditures must not exceed revenues.

10. The Basis of Order - That rights carry with them responsibilities; that ordered liberty is dependent upon personal honor and respect for the rule of law.

11. The Basis of Freedom - That freedom is a moral accomplishment, being achieved and maintained through the deliberate cultivation of virtue and the prudent exercise of vigilance by an armed, informed, and involved citizenry.

12. The Primacy of Western Civilization - That the genius of Western Civilization, manifested by and through its enduring faith, principles and wisdom, inherited and refined through the long historical experience of successive generations, constitutes an unsurpassed spiritual, philosophical and cultural endowment that is worthy of defense and perpetuation.


Their 12 founding principles. Interesting.
 
2012-11-19 09:47:14 AM  
Why do they even care? I can't even imagine the president having any impact on their state. If they just keep to themselves and raise their horses or whatever nobody is going to bother them. And if US policies lead to an attack on the US, STILL nobody is going to bother them.
 
2012-11-19 09:48:44 AM  
And if the policies bankrupt the country, still nobody is going to bother them. They can just go about raising their meat, growing their food, cutting down their own trees to build their own churches, and nobody will even know.
 
2012-11-19 09:59:00 AM  
Still,if diversity is the future of American politics,conservatives in places like Wyoming,the least populous state,where 86 percent of residents are white,fear they may be sliding into the past.

Even the past has left a lot of these people behind
 
2012-11-19 10:00:04 AM  

jaylectricity: And if the policies bankrupt the country, still nobody is going to bother them. They can just go about raising their meat, growing their food, cutting down their own trees to build their own churches, and nobody will even know.


WY can't survive without the federal government. Outside of mineral extraction, there's little industry in the state. The growing season is too short; water is too scarce.
 
2012-11-19 10:21:11 AM  

dr_blasto: jaylectricity: And if the policies bankrupt the country, still nobody is going to bother them. They can just go about raising their meat, growing their food, cutting down their own trees to build their own churches, and nobody will even know.

WY can't survive without the federal government. Outside of mineral extraction, there's little industry in the state. The growing season is too short; water is too scarce.


Then what the hell are they complaining about? We elected a Democrat!
 
2012-11-19 10:22:56 AM  
Ranchers and farmers who cant survive without federal subsidies or cheap use of federal grazing lands complaining about poor folks wanting Medicaid and WIC is the height of hypocrisy
 
2012-11-19 10:28:34 AM  
Republicans should keep repeating the talking point that minorities vote for free stuff. That's a can't miss.
 
2012-11-19 10:29:51 AM  
Driving through Wyoming always reminds me of The Road only with more roving gangs of cannibals and rapists.
 
2012-11-19 10:30:06 AM  
Who cares? There are 7 people in Wyoming.
 
2012-11-19 10:30:51 AM  
There's a reason we call your section of the United States "Fly-Over Country".
 
2012-11-19 10:31:56 AM  
His friend Bradley Harrington, who publishes a year-old conservative newspaper called Liberty's Torch and is the host of a radio talk show in Cheyenne, said the election vindicated conservative politicians and commentators who talked about the 47 percent of Americans who pay no income tax, about makers and takers.

"The parasites now outnumber the producers," Mr. Harrington said.


47% > 53%
Somehow this is republican's idea of math yet they still have the label as the party that can balance a budget.
 
2012-11-19 10:35:23 AM  

dr_blasto: There's a lot of crazy in WY. This state's Democrats would make great Republicans elsewhere. Lately, the nuttiest of the nutters are attempting a RINO purge of state government Republicans. They call themselves CROW and this is the crap they believe: CROW


After reading Cythraul's list of their founding principle, I'd imagine Wyoming would be better of following this Crow:

www.hands-of-fate.net
 
2012-11-19 10:37:00 AM  

NuttierThanEver: Ranchers and farmers who cant survive without federal subsidies or cheap use of federal grazing lands complaining about poor folks wanting Medicaid and WIC is the height of hypocrisy


"It's a fundamental shift," said Khale Lenhart, 27, a lawyer here. "It's a mind-set change - that government is here to take care of me."

Yep, they keep farking that chicken (those other people just want free stuff) then loading themselves up. Rmoney was running on a platform of robbing the middle-class to reward the top ~5% and they are wondering why this does not sell.
 
2012-11-19 10:37:23 AM  
"It's a fundamental shift," said Khale Lenhart, 27, a lawyer here. "It's a mind-set change - that government is here to take care of me."

"The young vote and certainly the minority vote went toward the perspective of 'What can I get?' Where the government runs everything, it's completely not sustainable. They don't see that."

"The parasites now outnumber the producers," Mr. Harrington said. "That's why Romney lost, and I think it's going to get worse."


In the face of all of the data to the contrary, these people still believe the election was about makers, takers, and government takeovers. At this point, it's just sad.
 
2012-11-19 10:37:54 AM  

EyeballKid: dr_blasto: There's a lot of crazy in WY. This state's Democrats would make great Republicans elsewhere. Lately, the nuttiest of the nutters are attempting a RINO purge of state government Republicans. They call themselves CROW and this is the crap they believe: CROW

After reading Cythraul's list of their founding principle, I'd imagine Wyoming would be better of following this Crow:

[www.hands-of-fate.net image 312x445]


Yes, where's Crow? I don't know but I did see that idiot heading towards the hull with a pickaxe.
 
2012-11-19 10:39:00 AM  

Cythraul: Their 12 founding principles. Interesting.


Reads like Swift.
 
2012-11-19 10:39:21 AM  

Khellendros: In the face of all of the data to the contrary, these people still believe the election was about makers, takers, and government takeovers. At this point, it's just sad.


they're like those Japanese soldiers that kept fighting ww2 after it was over.
 
2012-11-19 10:41:20 AM  
Wyoming, what's it done, except bring us this evil fark:

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2012-11-19 10:42:29 AM  
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2012-11-19 10:42:41 AM  

monoski: NuttierThanEver: Ranchers and farmers who cant survive without federal subsidies or cheap use of federal grazing lands complaining about poor folks wanting Medicaid and WIC is the height of hypocrisy

"It's a fundamental shift," said Khale Lenhart, 27, a lawyer here. "It's a mind-set change - that government is here to take care of me."

Yep, they keep farking that chicken (those other people just want free stuff) then loading themselves up. Rmoney was running on a platform of robbing the middle-class to reward the top ~5% and they are wondering why this does not sell.


What I just don't understand is why people thinking "government is here to take care of me" is a pejorative term. The entire reason the government exists is to take care of its citizens. There is almost nothing the government does that is not directly related to that objective.
 
2012-11-19 10:44:11 AM  
White-stunned?
 
2012-11-19 10:44:27 AM  
"It spooks me," said James Yates, 46, a self-made businessman who owns 15 restaurants and employs about 1,000 people. "The young vote and certainly the minority vote went toward the perspective of 'What can I get?' Where the government runs everything, it's completely not sustainable. They don't see that."


Something tells me this guy says "spook" a lot.
 
2012-11-19 10:44:32 AM  
Being from Montana, it's nice to have a state nearby to point and laugh at.
 
2012-11-19 10:45:18 AM  

you have pee hands: Cythraul: Their 12 founding principles. Interesting.

Reads like Swift.


Aye, a Swiftian take on Randism. They're batshiat insane.
 
Bf+
2012-11-19 10:46:31 AM  

mediaho: White-stunned?


Well, not all the way white-stunned, just 86% white-stunned.
 
2012-11-19 10:46:58 AM  

dr_blasto: There's a lot of crazy in WY. This state's Democrats would make great Republicans elsewhere. Lately, the nuttiest of the nutters are attempting a RINO purge of state government Republicans. They call themselves CROW and this is the crap they believe: CROW


CRO - Crazy Republicans Only?
 
2012-11-19 10:47:08 AM  

Mugato: "It spooks me," said James Yates, 46, a self-made businessman who owns 15 restaurants and employs about 1,000 people. "The young vote and certainly the minority vote went toward the perspective of 'What can I get?' Where the government runs everything, it's completely not sustainable. They don't see that."


Something tells me this guy says "spook" a lot.


I'm sure Mr. Yates' vote wasn't based on the potential for personal or business benefit from a Romney administration.
 
2012-11-19 10:47:40 AM  
I'm 100% white-stunned.
 
2012-11-19 10:48:34 AM  

Khellendros: "It's a fundamental shift," said Khale Lenhart, 27, a lawyer here. "It's a mind-set change - that government is here to take care of me."

"The young vote and certainly the minority vote went toward the perspective of 'What can I get?' Where the government runs everything, it's completely not sustainable. They don't see that."

"The parasites now outnumber the producers," Mr. Harrington said. "That's why Romney lost, and I think it's going to get worse."

In the face of all of the data to the contrary, these people still believe the election was about makers, takers, and government takeovers. At this point, it's just sad.



I think its human nature to shape your perception of negative events in such a way as to make yourself a winner, even when you lose. If the results were reversed, there would be one million liberals screaming about how the Red Staters "just don't get it". We'd be saying that people voted for Romney because they were ignorant racists or boobs who don't understand how the country works. Now, we'd be right but that's not the point. I just think its natural to read things that way, no matter what side of it you're on.
 
2012-11-19 10:49:01 AM  
More people live in Washington, DC than live in Wyoming, yet somehow these clowns get two senators and a voting representative. Go figure.
 
2012-11-19 10:49:22 AM  

qorkfiend: What I just don't understand is why people thinking "government is here to take care of me" is a pejorative term. The entire reason the government exists is to take care of its citizens. There is almost nothing the government does that is not directly related to that objective.


It keeps people from attempting to get assistance I guess, it's like the narrative that being delinquent on your bills when you are poor or middle class means you are a deadbeat but doing the same and filing for bankruptcy when you are very rich is part of a "restructuring".
 
2012-11-19 10:50:01 AM  
"It's a mind-set change - that government is here to take care of me."

This is why you will continue to lose on the national stage. This self-invented delusion you have about what the other side thinks.
 
2012-11-19 10:51:33 AM  

Headso: Republicans should keep repeating the talking point that minorities vote for free stuff. That's a can't miss.


The sad thing is that all that repetition could, over time, embed the concept in our national consciousness. We're going to keep winning for a while, since progressives are the only ones with a non-fearul view outside our borders. I'd hate for the nextgen to join the club with the idea there's free stuff for the taking.

/self-fulfilling prophecy ftl
 
2012-11-19 10:52:30 AM  
Khale Lenhart
M. Lee Hasenauer
Buck Holmes

Those are some great names.
 
2012-11-19 10:53:38 AM  
It took me a while to parse the hyphens in the headline. What is Wyoming-America, and what does it mean to be white-stunned?

I mean, I get it, it just took me a couple of seconds. When I use dashes to create parenthetical phrases, I usually put some spaces around them.
 
2012-11-19 10:53:49 AM  

CPennypacker: Who cares? There are 7 people in Wyoming.


All of whom are named Frank.

Even the girl.

/she's really popular
 
2012-11-19 10:55:10 AM  
"It spooks me," said James Yates, 46, a self-made businessman who owns 15 restaurants and employs about 1,000 people.

Don't worry James Yates, you still run no risk of ever seeing a black person in your life.
 
2012-11-19 10:55:11 AM  

theknuckler_33: "It's a mind-set change - that government is here to take care of me."

This is why you will continue to lose on the national stage. This self-invented delusion you have about what the other side thinks.


I wonder what they think the military does if not "take care of [us]"?
 
2012-11-19 10:55:19 AM  

dr_blasto: There's a lot of crazy in WY. This state's Democrats would make great Republicans elsewhere. Lately, the nuttiest of the nutters are attempting a RINO purge of state government Republicans. They call themselves CROW and this is the crap they believe: CROW


That's just BEGGING for a Poe counter-campaign.
 
2012-11-19 10:55:23 AM  
I think it's thinking like that which results in young people ditching Wyoming for greener pastures (ie: Colorado).
 
2012-11-19 10:55:27 AM  

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: More people live in Washington, DC than live in Wyoming, yet somehow these clowns get two senators and a voting representative. Go figure.


Maybe it has something to do with them being a state?
 
2012-11-19 10:56:57 AM  

sweetmelissa31: "It spooks me," said James Yates, 46, a self-made businessman who owns 15 restaurants and employs about 1,000 people.

Don't worry James Yates, you still run no risk of ever seeing a black person in your life.


You should get your projections checked out.
 
2012-11-19 10:57:56 AM  
"The Laramie Consortium will receive up to $13.2 million in federal State Small Business Credit Initiative funds to finance two small-business development projects in Wyoming, the U.S. Department of the Treasury has announced."

Wow! I wish my business was that "small".
 
2012-11-19 11:00:51 AM  
"His friend Bradley Harrington, who publishes a year-old conservative newspaper called Liberty's Torch and is the host of a radio talk show in Cheyenne, said the election vindicated conservative politicians and commentators who talked about the 47 percent of Americans who pay no income tax, about makers and takers. "

Wyoming is a taker

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