WelldeadLink: "I will wield the ban-hammer ruthlessly against anyone who further spreads this shiat."

Kos must be getting Thor HARDEE HAR HAR

Left? Right?
They're all fascists.

Wake up.

HotIgneous Intruder: Left? Right?
They're all fascists.

Wake up.

Sheeple?

Do they really need to ban them or simply make an announcement like they did here and mock them relentlessly.

Fart_Machine: HotIgneous Intruder: Left? Right?
They're all fascists.

Wake up.

Sheeple?

Do not attempt to awaken the sheeple!

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cman: Curious, why are people down voting this?

Do what, now?

jso2897: cman: Curious, why are people down voting this?

Do what, now?

Something us filthy liters can't do. TFers can vote up a story to greenlight it, or vote it down to call it trash that shouldn't be posted.

Mods do not always listen

Zarquon's Flat Tire: Do not attempt to awaken the sheeple!

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Klivian: jso2897: cman: Curious, why are people down voting this?

Do what, now?

Something us filthy liters can't do. TFers can vote up a story to greenlight it, or vote it down to call it trash that shouldn't be posted.

Mods do not always listen

Ah. I am not versed in the arcane lore of TF.

The truth or falsehood of the Anonymous/Rove claim has no bearing on Daily Kos' misapplication of 'not even wrong'. This one does seem provable in principle.

Aren't the right wing sites largely the source of right wing conspiracy theories?

Basically it's the same policy as Kos has had towrad Truthers.

If it must be discussed, may it be discussed in the context of being a steaming pile of idiotic ramblings.
Not as something of worthy of consideration.

so... rove has blackmail on kos. good to know.

On the Independent Lens last night: Park Avenue: Money, Power & the American Dream. Repubs, maybe the sentiments expressed in this program will have some bearing on US elections over the next little while?

So, Anonymous' claim has been disproven? I must've missed that.

I have no clue whether their claim is true or not, but I also have no information as to why it should be dismissed as a "conspiracy theory".

Bottom line for me is I don't really care, Karl Rove is a turd whose days are over, and the result was satisfying.

In order to get a sense for how truthful the claim is, watch for right wing originated "cybersecurity" and censorship laws, if it happened rove will be pissed and want retribution

I actually had a FB friend claim that Romney got zero votes from Philadelphia, and only 2 in all of Ohio, so there was obviously voter fraud taking place and why wasn't anyone else upset about it?

I posted links to the official voting returns from Philadelphia and Ohio and asked her was she that gullible or did she just make stuff up to manufacture fake outrage.

/Romney did get votes in Philadelphia
//and about 48% of the vote in Ohio

It is a funny conspiracy theory to think about. If it were true, imagine being a fly on the wall of the death star when Rove realizes his secret evil plan has fallen through, and the men with clubs are waiting outside the door.
Also, Lizard People at high levels of power is a funny conspiracy theory to think about.

It's really all funny to think about, and if you take any of those seriously, you're funny as well.

Someone out there thinks anonymous knows how to hack things?

magores: so... rove has blackmail on kos. good to know.

It's obvious that Rove got to him.

cman: Ambivalence: cman: Just like all the birthers, those who want to believe will believe it no matter if you ban them. There is nothing you can do.

You could refuse to give them credibility or a platform on your site to spew stupidity.

Its an open site IIRC. If someone has an agenda to push banning really wont do shiat on that kind of platform.

He made the same promise to the 9/11 troofers back during the Bush years. I used to be a frequent visitor at that time, but I never saw any troofer posts.

So you're assertion is not backed up the past.

cman: Ambivalence: cman: Just like all the birthers, those who want to believe will believe it no matter if you ban them. There is nothing you can do.

You could refuse to give them credibility or a platform on your site to spew stupidity.

Its an open site IIRC. If someone has an agenda to push banning really wont do shiat on that kind of platform.

Nope. This ain't about principled *anything*. This is a smart move for Kos, who are reviled because they are a left wing blog. Purge the crazies or the crazies are all we hear about from the right.

This is a "kill em with kindness" style move.

cman: Just like all the birthers, those who want to believe will believe it no matter if you ban them. There is nothing you can do.

So you're saying the Democrats should run some of them as presidential candidates? Both sides being equally bad, and all.

Bendal: I actually had a FB friend claim that Romney got zero votes from Philadelphia, and only 2 in all of Ohio, so there was obviously voter fraud taking place and why wasn't anyone else upset about it?

I posted links to the official voting returns from Philadelphia and Ohio and asked her was she that gullible or did she just make stuff up to manufacture fake outrage.

/Romney did get votes in Philadelphia
//and about 48% of the vote in Ohio

So how did it turn out? Did she fail to respond or did she come back to reality for a little while?

hoohoodilly: So, Anonymous' claim has been disproven? I must've missed that.

Have they released any information other than a poorly written letter? If not, there's nothing to disprove and the claim has to be treated as bullshiat.

I read this the other day. As I recall, Anonymous let Rove off with a warning...this time. That should be your first tip that the story is first rate, major league horsecrap.

Just the fact that this kind of story is believable should be a heads-up on voting laws. It should not be possible to start rumor about how easy it is to steal votes online. The fact the ohio sec. of state did an emergency patch of the ballot machines (violating state law apparently in so doing) was enough to get the wheels turning.

On the other hand one could say that crowdsourcing attempts at fraud seems to have worked to keep fraud in check, at least this time.

hoohoodilly: I have no clue whether their claim is true or not, but I also have no information as to why it should be dismissed as a "conspiracy theory".

If I posted a one page PDF to Fark claiming I have Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny locked up in my basement would you consider that worthy of anything but a flat dismissal or suggest that further discussion of the topic was anything but a complete waste of time?

good.

If we don't stop giving so much voice to the crazy folks on both sides we aren't going to get anywhere as a country.

It would be nice for folks on the right to do things like this as well.

Surprisingly, Republicans are now concerned about voting machine vulnerabilities.

This is just BS. But it does prove one thing once again. The voting system should not be connected to the internet in any way shape or form. It should not even be connected to a phone line. Also computers should not be used in any way shape or form in the process of voting or the initial hard copies of voting results. If any electronics are used to design a voting machine then they should be hard wired discrete logic machines with no software. Link

Vegan Meat Popsicle: If I posted a one page PDF to Fark claiming I have Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny locked up in my basement ...

False equivalency. PDFs from Project Everest bear a little more weight. "Anonymous saved the election" and "voting systems are dangerously insecure" are two completely different claims many here seem intent on confusing: "If the Anonymous claim is false, voting systems must be secure."
Cman is defending Daily Kos, how much more smoke is it reasonable to ask?

/only half joking

hoohoodilly: So, Anonymous' claim has been disproven? I must've missed that.

I have no clue whether their claim is true or not, but I also have no information as to why it should be dismissed as a "conspiracy theory".

Bottom line for me is I don't really care, Karl Rove is a turd whose days are over, and the result was satisfying.

Because it reeks of conspiracy theory?

Now that's actually a juicy conspiracy theory, not like the one about the president being a black guy.

Vegan Meat Popsicle: hoohoodilly: I have no clue whether their claim is true or not, but I also have no information as to why it should be dismissed as a "conspiracy theory".

If I posted a one page PDF to Fark claiming I have Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny locked up in my basement would you consider that worthy of anything but a flat dismissal or suggest that further discussion of the topic was anything but a complete waste of time?

Anonymous' claims are rooted in reality, even if their claim is b.s. Rove is sleazy, and perfectly capable of going to great lengths to steal elections. Many believe that the 2000 and/or 2004 were fraudulent, highly suspicious, and/or stolen.

If Anonymous thwarted Rove, awesome. If not, they're attention whores. Either way, Mittens and Ham Rove are history, so it's all good.

Good, what a load of shiat that was. Lets imagine a real scenario; say anonymous and its many arms of neckbeards prods around and actually does find hamRove burning Obama votes in a firewall or whatever and actually manage to stop him. Do you really think the most they would do is give Rove a hearty *tut tut*, leak a shadow of a story and ride off Shane-like into the sunset, satisfied that they had saved democracy for now?

No. They would have logged and screen-shotted any evidence of wrongdoing and their heroic actions, released most if not all the evidence to the public, and filed suit immediately. This isn't some episode of GI Joe where you beat the villain and then say "Let him run, he learned his lesson," no, you send him to federal farking prison.

Rove would've gotten away with it if it weren't for those meddling kids.