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2012-11-18 11:56:00 PM  
Have you ever wondered why, no matter how stuffed we are, there's always room for dessert?

I assumed it was because I'mma greedy bastard who loves Pumpkin Pie.

Is the science in on that now?
 
2012-11-19 12:01:41 AM  
Because the dessert compartment is different from the dinner compartment, of course. That's what my kid always insisted when it was time for pie and he hadn't finished his dinner.

But really--shouldn't you make pie a priority in your life anyway?
 
2012-11-19 12:02:39 AM  
I never eat dessert.
 
2012-11-19 12:10:54 AM  

Dallymo: But really--shouldn't you make pie a priority in your life anyway?


Hmm...a little tweak...

Lardass' Bakery
But really--shouldn't you make pastry a priority in your life?
 
2012-11-19 12:11:50 AM  
Damnit. Now I want pie.
 
2012-11-19 12:14:35 AM  
Sweet.
 
2012-11-19 12:14:52 AM  

eraser8: Damnit. Now I want pie.


Me too and not just any pie, either. I want good pie.

A slice of Homemade Lemon Meringue and Pumpkin Pie with real whipped cream and maybe one of those Chocolate Pecan dealies DeaH was talking about the other day. Key Lime can be good too.

Eat all the pie things!
 
2012-11-19 12:51:33 AM  
I've never ordered desert. But have chosen a cheese plate with wine for 'desert' with some fruit and bread--hey it came with the meal.
 
2012-11-19 01:53:55 AM  

atlfarkette: I never eat dessert.


*fistbump*

Sweet after savory makes me physically ill.

I can eat pie or something as an appetizer, but cake after pasta or somehing? No way.
 
2012-11-19 02:59:17 AM  

doglover: atlfarkette: I never eat dessert.

*fistbump*

Sweet after savory makes me physically ill.

I can eat pie or something as an appetizer, but cake after pasta or somehing? No way.


Not every meal needs pie afterwards.
 
2012-11-19 05:30:04 AM  

Darth_Lukecash: doglover: atlfarkette: I never eat dessert.

*fistbump*

Sweet after savory makes me physically ill.

I can eat pie or something as an appetizer, but cake after pasta or somehing? No way.

Not every meal needs pie afterwards.


Neither does pie need a prior meal.
 
2012-11-19 05:42:27 AM  
Always more room.
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/I mixed up the batter, and she licked the beater.
 
2012-11-19 05:45:55 AM  
I can usually eat it because I don't go for dessert *right* after the meal. Wait about an hour or so - you'll enjoy it more, and you can have a bigger piece.

When I was a kid I would say I was 'full' to avoid eating my veggies (well, the ones I didn't like). But when it was revealed that we have ice cream or Jell-O for dessert, I came up with the explanation that the dessert would be able to slip into the cracks in between the stuff in my "full" stomach. It worked a few times, but in most cases it was 'if you have room for dessert you have room for those last 3 brussel sprouts"
 
2012-11-19 05:46:54 AM  
The radius of the circle dictates how much room is left. Pi merely gives you the ratio of surface area to volume
 
2012-11-19 05:50:58 AM  
別腹
 
2012-11-19 05:54:14 AM  
I assumed the answer was "because I held back and only ate 4 plates for dinner".
 
2012-11-19 06:02:47 AM  

robmilmel: Dallymo: But really--shouldn't you make pie a priority in your life anyway?

Hmm...a little tweak...

Lardass' Bakery
But really--shouldn't you make pastry a priority in your life?


Most pies are actually pretty healthy for you - by virtue of basically pureed fruit in a shell of bread.
 
2012-11-19 06:06:15 AM  

starsrift: robmilmel: Dallymo: But really--shouldn't you make pie a priority in your life anyway?

Hmm...a little tweak...

Lardass' Bakery
But really--shouldn't you make pastry a priority in your life?

Most pies are actually pretty healthy for you - by virtue of basically pureed fruit in a shell of bread.


Just like chocolate cake is good for you because it has eggs and milk.
 
2012-11-19 06:16:49 AM  

TFerWannaBe: Just like chocolate cake is good for you because it has eggs and milk.


Pies are mostly fruit, and you can make them without adding sugar. Cakes are mostly flour - not eggs and milk, and you have to add a shiatload of sugar. And fat, butter or shortening.
 
2012-11-19 06:22:17 AM  

starsrift: TFerWannaBe: Just like chocolate cake is good for you because it has eggs and milk.

Pies are mostly fruit, and you can make them without adding sugar. Cakes are mostly flour - not eggs and milk, and you have to add a shiatload of sugar. And fat, butter or shortening.


Wait, what? No I don't think that's pie :)
 
2012-11-19 06:22:45 AM  

TFerWannaBe: starsrift: robmilmel: Dallymo: But really--shouldn't you make pie a priority in your life anyway?

Hmm...a little tweak...

Lardass' Bakery
But really--shouldn't you make pastry a priority in your life?

Most pies are actually pretty healthy for you - by virtue of basically pureed fruit in a shell of bread.

Just like chocolate cake is good for you because it has eggs and milk.


Indeed!!
 
2012-11-19 06:34:52 AM  

buckler: TFerWannaBe: starsrift: robmilmel: Dallymo: But really--shouldn't you make pie a priority in your life anyway?

Hmm...a little tweak...

Lardass' Bakery
But really--shouldn't you make pastry a priority in your life?

Most pies are actually pretty healthy for you - by virtue of basically pureed fruit in a shell of bread.

Just like chocolate cake is good for you because it has eggs and milk.

Indeed!!


Exactly what I was thinking. That's one of my favorite Cosby skits.
 
2012-11-19 06:44:48 AM  
Because, as Nietzsche so famously said, if you don't consume the pie, then the pie consumes you.
 
2012-11-19 06:45:24 AM  

starsrift: Most pies are actually pretty healthy for you - by virtue of basically pureed fruit in a shell of bread.


Some people would contend that pureed fruit inside bread is not actually a particularly healthy dish.

Sure, fruits have a lot of vitamins, but aside from that a pie is basically a load of sugar wrapped in more sugar. Some of the sweeter fruits register 15-20 Brix, which means almost a fifth of their weight is sucrose even without adding extra sugar, and most pies do contain added sugar.

Now, I'm not trying to badmouth fruit or pie -- I love them.
But it's silly to call pie healthy, it will absolutely make you a fatass.
 
2012-11-19 06:47:04 AM  
From TFA:

"I still fully intend to stuff myself with Tofurkey, mashed potatoes, and stuffing until I can't breathe on Thanksgiving and follow that with vegan pumpkin pie..."

Q: How can you tell if someone's vegan? A: Don't worry, they'll tell you.
 
2012-11-19 07:05:33 AM  

DoughyGuy: I can usually eat it because I don't go for dessert *right* after the meal. Wait about an hour or so - you'll enjoy it more, and you can have a bigger piece.


Amen. In my house, Thanksgiving goes:

Appetizers/light stuff in the late morning or noon.
Dinner at 4-5.
Port or sherry right after.
Coffee and pie or cake at 6-ish. Sometimes a

And a turkey sandwich about 7-8.

Of course, we only do one plate - we'd rather enjoy the leftovers, to be honest.
 
2012-11-19 07:11:49 AM  

atlfarkette: I never eat dessert.


You sound fat.
 
2012-11-19 07:12:12 AM  

Gawdzila: starsrift: Most pies are actually pretty healthy for you - by virtue of basically pureed fruit in a shell of bread.

Some people would contend that pureed fruit inside bread is not actually a particularly healthy dish.

Sure, fruits have a lot of vitamins, but aside from that a pie is basically a load of sugar wrapped in more sugar. Some of the sweeter fruits register 15-20 Brix, which means almost a fifth of their weight is sucrose even without adding extra sugar, and most pies do contain added sugar.

Now, I'm not trying to badmouth fruit or pie -- I love them.
But it's silly to call pie healthy, it will absolutely make you a fatass.


Carrot cake is still a vegetable though, right?
 
2012-11-19 07:13:41 AM  
Pie pie pie pie pie pie PIE!

/when come back, bring pie!
 
2012-11-19 07:18:07 AM  

Ivan_and_Norma_Sweeney: From TFA:

"I still fully intend to stuff myself with Tofurkey, mashed potatoes, and stuffing until I can't breathe on Thanksgiving and follow that with vegan pumpkin pie..."

Q: How can you tell if someone's vegan? A: Don't worry, they'll tell you.


Certainly beat me to it. -1 to article author for Tofurkey. Because nothing makes thanksgiving better than replacing perfectly good meat with ground up poison beans.

/enjoy your likely gmo slime, vegan scum
 
2012-11-19 07:28:02 AM  
Ultimately the old nutrition model was right. You need square meals. There is always room for pie in this model because pie are squared.
 
2012-11-19 07:43:40 AM  
Writer lost all credibility when she said "Tofurkey..." Who takes eating tips from a Vegan?
 
2012-11-19 07:47:19 AM  

TFerWannaBe: starsrift: robmilmel: Dallymo: But really--shouldn't you make pie a priority in your life anyway?

Hmm...a little tweak...

Lardass' Bakery
But really--shouldn't you make pastry a priority in your life?

Most pies are actually pretty healthy for you - by virtue of basically pureed fruit in a shell of bread.

Just like chocolate cake is good for you because it has eggs and milk.


Dad is great. Give us the chocolate cake.

/not that I would ever feed my kids like that. No.
 
2012-11-19 08:42:08 AM  

Dracolich


Ultimately the old nutrition model was right. You need square meals. There is always room for pie in this model because pie are squared.


Pie are not squared. Pie are round.
 
2012-11-19 08:44:41 AM  

Dallymo: Because the dessert compartment is different from the dinner compartment, of course. That's what my kid always insisted when it was time for pie and he hadn't finished his dinner.

But really--shouldn't you make pie a priority in your life anyway?


Ahh... another believer in "the flap." It is REAL, people!
 
2012-11-19 08:45:06 AM  

Gawdzila: starsrift: Most pies are actually pretty healthy for you - by virtue of basically pureed fruit in a shell of bread.

Some people would contend that pureed fruit inside bread is not actually a particularly healthy dish.

Sure, fruits have a lot of vitamins, but aside from that a pie is basically a load of sugar wrapped in more sugar. Some of the sweeter fruits register 15-20 Brix, which means almost a fifth of their weight is sucrose even without adding extra sugar, and most pies do contain added sugar.

Now, I'm not trying to badmouth fruit or pie -- I love them.
But it's silly to call pie healthy, it will absolutely make you a fatass.


Isn't the point of healthy food to be chock full of vitamins, as opposed to food that's not?
 
2012-11-19 09:06:14 AM  
The best pie is Marie Calendar's Razzleberry pie.

Warm.

With vanilla ice cream.

That is all
 
2012-11-19 09:14:39 AM  
Fresh-made Strawberry-Rhubarb, then Chocolate Cream. You know what, just anything but pecan!

Go Fatty Go!
 
2012-11-19 09:30:05 AM  
The answer is "because we are Americans", and that is how we roll. Mmm...rolls! Pass the butter!
 
2012-11-19 09:46:16 AM  
Stop being fat!
 
2012-11-19 10:37:36 AM  

starsrift: Isn't the point of healthy food to be chock full of vitamins, as opposed to food that's not?


Chock full of vitamins, short on processed ingredients, low in added sugar. Pie is very high in sugar and added sugar.

Stop pretending that pie is anything but awesome indulgence. Because it is just that.
 
2012-11-19 10:43:00 AM  

factoryconnection: starsrift: Isn't the point of healthy food to be chock full of vitamins, as opposed to food that's not?

Chock full of vitamins, short on processed ingredients, low in added sugar. Pie is very high in sugar and added sugar.

Stop pretending that pie is anything but awesome indulgence. Because it is just that.


"Processed"? How is throwing fruit through a blender and heating it a bit making it "processed" - typically a term used to denote the addition of preservatives and other unnecessary crap.

Do none of you all make your own damn pies?
 
2012-11-19 10:45:47 AM  
www.thegluttony.com

No, I'm full.

/But it's wafer thin.
 
2012-11-19 10:48:34 AM  
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/not obscure
 
2012-11-19 12:08:35 PM  

starsrift: Do none of you all make your own damn pies?


I wrote that poorly; what I meant was "The point of healthy food is to be chock full of vitamins, but also short on processed ingredients, low in added sugar. Pie is very high in sugar and added sugar."

Pie, made the way both of us agree it should be, still fails the sugar test.

Note to pre-made crust users: watch out for trans fats in them. Examples: Pillsbury All-Vegetable Deep-dish crust has 1.5g/svg and the Pillsbury Rolled crust has 0.5g/svg.
 
2012-11-19 12:23:12 PM  

starsrift: factoryconnection: starsrift: Isn't the point of healthy food to be chock full of vitamins, as opposed to food that's not?

Chock full of vitamins, short on processed ingredients, low in added sugar. Pie is very high in sugar and added sugar.

Stop pretending that pie is anything but awesome indulgence. Because it is just that.

"Processed"? How is throwing fruit through a blender and heating it a bit making it "processed" - typically a term used to denote the addition of preservatives and other unnecessary crap.

Do none of you all make your own damn pies?


Unless your fruit is raw, it has been processed fyi. It's not even like meat where there is some valid argument for cooking it. The fruit that is placed in pies is not a health food. It is sugar coated candy. Sorry! The pie crust is mostly butter for a damned reason. Now if you want junk food, pie is probably healthier than eating the same calories worth of candy bars, which contain preservatives and no semblance of whole fruit, but not by too much because you're still eating junk.

Everyone would be much healthier if they just ate fresh fruit for dessert (including the peel/pulp/major fiber source for the respective fruit and all). Most confections remove the fiber containing portions of the fruit, the most valuable part of the food. Screw vitamins and minerals. Very few first world people are deficient of any of those things. Sadly, most of the ingredients in your meal are probably fortified with random vitamins and minerals.
 
2012-11-19 12:32:05 PM  
Duh - dessert tummy!
 
2012-11-19 02:25:50 PM  

Ivan_and_Norma_Sweeney: vegan


came here to say this.
 
2012-11-19 03:58:01 PM  

starsrift: Isn't the point of healthy food to be chock full of vitamins, as opposed to food that's not?


That's part of the point, but if pie were a regular part of your meals you'd probably be diabetic. On the other hand, the regular consumption of broccoli, or chicken breasts, or eggs doesn't appear to have such adverse effects. To me the idea that a food is "healthy" implies that consuming it with regularity will enhance your health as opposed to deteriorating it.


starsrift: "Processed"? How is throwing fruit through a blender and heating it a bit making it "processed" - typically a term used to denote the addition of preservatives and other unnecessary crap.


The word "processed" is extremely ill-defined and isn't typically used to denote anything specific -- other than one's opinion that the food is unhealthy or low quality. Raw Food Vegans would say that baking your pie is "processing". Similarly, many people consider juice pasteurization (i.e. heating it up) "processing", and wrongly contend that it robs the juice of all nutritional value.


starsrift: Do none of you all make your own damn pies?


Yes. In fact the other day I baked and pureed several large garden-grown pumpkin for Thanksgiving pies. Regardless, owing to the vast quantities of sugar contained therein, pie is still basically junk food.
 
2012-11-19 05:07:29 PM  

Gawdzila: starsrift: "Processed"? How is throwing fruit through a blender and heating it a bit making it "processed" - typically a term used to denote the addition of preservatives and other unnecessary crap.

The word "processed" is extremely ill-defined and isn't typically used to denote anything specific -- other than one's opinion that the food is unhealthy or low quality. Raw Food Vegans would say that baking your pie is "processing". Similarly, many people consider juice pasteurization (i.e. heating it up) "processing", and wrongly contend that it robs the juice of all nutritional value.


I've generally agreed with you in this thread, but on this point I would like to think that most people who speak English and have a fundamental science background would understand that food processing encompasses any physical or chemical transformation of food. Where this is most relevant to nutritionists and dietitians is where the processing starts to break down food so substantially that it lowers the metabolic requirements for digestion and makes food too efficiently metabolized (interesting article on how cooking can increase a food's calorie count) or even produce high sugar/insulin spikes. "Processing" carb- heavy foods is a definable problem for diabetics.

Something so benign as peeling an apple is a physical transformation of a healthy food into a slightly less healthy food. Take that peeled and sliced apple, cover it in preservatives, seal it in a wrapper and put it on a Subway shelf for a week and it's even less healthy. It is still better than potato chips, but it is technically processed. Am I calling apple slices at Subway unhealthy? No. People should just have an understanding that convenience food and preservation requires chemical processes (sometimes ones fairly alien ones, like I tend to prefer dried fruit made with lemon over sodium bisulfate) and that often it does degrade the nutritional quality of their food.

I'm not a raw food nut, but I accept that most everything I do to my food is processing and I try to avoid more heavily processed foods. You certainly wont find anything resembling baked goods in the wild, so that's probably why our bodies' only response to them is to just store fat on our asses. 

/is probably going to have a pie for Thanksgiving
 
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