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2012-11-18 08:41:32 PM
6 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: I don't see what the big deal is. Nudity isn't inherently sexual.


Hygeine. Naked people sit on things. Clothing isnt just for modesty and warmth Its also for health reasons.

Do you want your 4 year old to crawl around on a bus seat that has had dozens of naked san franciscan butt cracks sliding over it that morning?
2012-11-18 08:31:41 PM
6 votes:
I remember as a public park police officer in our local big city, we would often receive telephone complaints about guys sucking each other off in the public restrooms in the park, or walking down the trails in the woods and rogering each other. We would get quite a few of these complaints. Not that i can blame the public, nothing like walking into the public restroom and seeing some dude sucking cack, and trying to explain to your little son with you, what he just saw. Not cool.

So anyway, we would be forced to dress in plainclothes, and bust these guys. This is how it usually went.

We would go in, and act like we are using the urinal, either there would be a gay guy in there already, or one would go in after seeing us go in. Then one of three things would happen. He would make a lewd sexual proposal, reach around and try to grab your junk, or you would turn around and he would be fapping looking at you. Either way, he was getting arrested. This was a ticket for lewd conduct, indecent exposure, or propositioning a police officer. 99 percent of the time they wouldn't show up in court to fight it, as they didn't want to stand there in front of everyone while i say "Yes your Honor, i saw suspect X whipping the bishop when i turned around after using the bathroom". They would just pay the fine. Now, as i said before..i have nothing against gay people, it's not my place to judge them on their sexual preference. However, i do have issue with them doing that shiat in public, where the general public might view them, esp in a park where there are kids present that might walk in on them. All I'm saying is..have some personal pride and class, people that do this shiat make the rest of the gay people easy to stereotype. And the police would rather not have to be bait and see you do that shiat. We would rather be having doughnuts and coffee.

/thanks..
//The police.
2012-11-18 08:10:45 PM
4 votes:
Stripped down to his sunglasses and hiking boots, McCray Winpsett, 37, said he understands the disgust of residents who would prefer not to see the body modifications and sex enhancement devices sported by some of the Castro nudists. But he thinks Wiener's prohibition goes too far in undermining a tradition "that keeps San Francisco weird."

"A few lewd exhibitionists are really ruining it for the rest of us," he said. "It's my time to come out now to present myself in a light and show what true nudity fetishism is all about so people can separate the difference between what a nudist is and an exhibitionist is."

/Really, it's not enough that you have a ghey pride parade and prance around like attention whores in outlandish outfits and do all you can to shove your gayness in peoples faces, but sex enhancement devices? I have nothing against gays, but really, have some farking class. You are not helping the people who share your gay lifestyle by making a spectacle out of yourself. You just look like a freak. Good job. How about ..being gay, as you want, and living a life of happiness and personal honor and pride, and respect?
2012-11-18 08:20:18 PM
3 votes:
This thread is useless without (SFW) pics of hot, mostly naked gay men.
2012-11-18 08:05:24 PM
3 votes:
I'm all for equal rights, but keep your shorts on in public.
2012-11-18 11:36:34 PM
2 votes:
""I thought if I take my clothes off, I bet they are going to listen," she said."

How many women have made that mistake over the years?
2012-11-18 11:19:52 PM
2 votes:
I live 4 blocks from the Castro-market intersection and see these guys every day. It is an irritation - sagging 70 yearold ballsacks generally don't appeal to me - but they aren't hurting me or threatening me, they aren't corrupting my one year old son, and there are like 8 of them, tops. I think the city has more urgent matters to attend to than banning attention whores.
2012-11-18 08:54:15 PM
2 votes:

Gergesa: telaran: This thread is useless without (SFW) pics of hot, mostly naked gay men.

I'm not certain if they are gay but you can have these guys if it pleases you:

[i1083.photobucket.com image 697x421]

[i1083.photobucket.com image 685x1023]

[i286.photobucket.com image 272x400]

[i310.photobucket.com image 361x400]


See, there should be more of this. Thank you!
2012-11-18 08:44:05 PM
2 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: Actually, even if it were sexual I wouldn't really care. Let them get it on doggy style in the middle of the park.


It's been said before many times but the people who'd get it on in the park aren't the people you'd want to see getting it on in the park. Even you'd be like, "Ew, gross!"
2012-11-18 08:43:42 PM
2 votes:

Bit'O'Gristle: I remember as a public park police officer in our local big city, we would often receive telephone complaints about guys sucking each other off in the public restrooms in the park, or walking down the trails in the woods and rogering each other. We would get quite a few of these complaints. Not that i can blame the public, nothing like walking into the public restroom and seeing some dude sucking cack, and trying to explain to your little son with you, what he just saw. Not cool.

So anyway, we would be forced to dress in plainclothes, and bust these guys. This is how it usually went.

We would go in, and act like we are using the urinal, either there would be a gay guy in there already, or one would go in after seeing us go in. Then one of three things would happen. He would make a lewd sexual proposal, reach around and try to grab your junk, or you would turn around and he would be fapping looking at you. Either way, he was getting arrested. This was a ticket for lewd conduct, indecent exposure, or propositioning a police officer. 99 percent of the time they wouldn't show up in court to fight it, as they didn't want to stand there in front of everyone while i say "Yes your Honor, i saw suspect X whipping the bishop when i turned around after using the bathroom". They would just pay the fine. Now, as i said before..i have nothing against gay people, it's not my place to judge them on their sexual preference. However, i do have issue with them doing that shiat in public, where the general public might view them, esp in a park where there are kids present that might walk in on them. All I'm saying is..have some personal pride and class, people that do this shiat make the rest of the gay people easy to stereotype. And the police would rather not have to be bait and see you do that shiat. We would rather be having doughnuts and coffee.

/thanks..
//The police.


Did you work the I-95 rest area in Virginia at mile marker 107? Because that place gets farking scary after 8pm. I have to drive from Richmond to DC twice a week and I've stopped there more than I'd like (I have the bladder of a nine year old girl). It's led me to a new rule about rest areas: if I recognize you at a rest area from the last time I was at the same rest area at a different time - you're probably up to no good. Who hangs out at rest areas for hours at a time? People up to no good, that's who. It would be different if I stopped at the rest area at the same time each commute day, then said person could just be on the same commute schedule I'm on. But I don't, so clearly this guy is hanging out there. Creeeeeeeepy.

All of this could be solved if Virginia would just trick out their rest areas like Maryland does and turn them into commerce centers with restaurants, but apparently VA state law means they have to be poorly lit hovels with a bathroom and vending machines.
2012-11-18 08:12:26 PM
2 votes:
If you don't want your children to see fat, gay naked men, then don't bring them to/live in San Francisco's Castro district.

Turns out, being naked is illegal in 99% of the rest of the country. Why live in/go to one of the few places it isn't if you don't like it?
2012-11-18 08:08:43 PM
2 votes:
As something of a nudist, I have no problem with this.
2012-11-18 08:05:42 PM
2 votes:
But what will evangelics get all false outraged about in its place?

/who am I kidding - they will find something
2012-11-18 08:01:32 PM
2 votes:
is there really a large enough subset of the Castro district complaining for this to pass?

yes, there are a lot of families in the neighborhood, and even most gauys are fed up these guys

WEINER!!
2012-11-19 03:31:43 AM
1 votes:

Lsherm: rest area


I had a REALLY creepy experience at a rest area during a road trip once. Getting back into my car after pissing I noticed a van one spot over with its side door open and a $50 bill on the pavement next to it. I looked at it for a second and a voice from inside the van said "Pick it up".

I got the HELL out of there as fast as I could.

/csb
//in this story the "c" stands for "creepy"
2012-11-18 11:53:17 PM
1 votes:

leonel: It must be a real treat to be sitting on the bus or BART then suddenly have some guys junk dangling right at eye level with you.


Some people might think so. But, really, it's not.
2012-11-18 11:41:32 PM
1 votes:
Public service post: Do not do a Google Image Search for Fat Naked Men.
It probably didn't need to be said, but better safe than really very horribly sorry.
2012-11-18 11:38:41 PM
1 votes:

GladGirl: there are like 8 of them, tops


They can't all be tops.
2012-11-18 10:56:49 PM
1 votes:

Snargi: I knew I should of turned off the pics before entering this thread...


Why? Does this make you uncomfortable?
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2012-11-18 09:59:02 PM
1 votes:

Anthracite: San Francisco is not an "Adults only" resort. it is a City fuil of families and kids. Stop using it as if its your personal home to do anything that you want to.


The only reason nudity is shocking is because you don't see it every day. If you see naked people on a regular basis, you get desensitized to it very quickly, especially if it's part of your job.

The Japanese have a proverb that goes "Nudity is often seen but seldom noticed".
2012-11-18 09:50:08 PM
1 votes:
I'm guessing the real problem are the "nudists" who shed their clothing but not their cock rings. Sorry, but just no.
2012-11-18 09:48:17 PM
1 votes:
This was not a big problem, although if you are offended by nudity and such you would do well to avoid the Castro around Halloween. Or any day that ends with a 'y'.
2012-11-18 09:38:22 PM
1 votes:

machoprogrammer: Lsherm: Did you work the I-95 rest area in Virginia at mile marker 107? Because that place gets farking scary after 8pm. I have to drive from Richmond to DC twice a week and I've stopped there more than I'd like (I have the bladder of a nine year old girl). It's led me to a new rule about rest areas: if I recognize you at a rest area from the last time I was at the same rest area at a different time - you're probably up to no good. Who hangs out at rest areas for hours at a time? People up to no good, that's who. It would be different if I stopped at the rest area at the same time each commute day, then said person could just be on the same commute schedule I'm on. But I don't, so clearly this guy is hanging out there. Creeeeeeeepy.

All of this could be solved if Virginia would just trick out their rest areas like Maryland does and turn them into commerce centers with restaurants, but apparently VA state law means they have to be poorly lit hovels with a bathroom and vending machines.

What if he says the same about you?

I kid, I kid.


For all I know, he might. He might think I keep showing twice a week really wanting to do something but I just keep picking the wrong time. But I'm clearly only there for two minutes twice a week. He's obviously there for longer than that. And that kind of brings up my final complaint: if VA had decent rest areas with restaurants and were otherwise well lit - that particular rest area wouldn't be the kind of place you'd even consider lurking at. It would just be a highway stop full of people.

I've never been propositioned at a rest area (maybe there's a code - quite possibly I'm just not attractive enough for rest area sex) but if you're traveling on the road and you have to stop to hit the bathroom, it's better to have someplace safe rather than a small brick building with random dudes hanging around in the dark. If I'm traveling with the family, I'm doubly irritated with poorly lit, hole in the wall rest stops.  Because if I have to pull off the damn highway to piss, the last thing on my mind is sex.
2012-11-18 09:35:28 PM
1 votes:
Thank heavens. It can't happen soon enough. There's a reason why most people should put clothes on and the old geezers at Castro & Market are good examples. EWWWW!
2012-11-18 09:33:56 PM
1 votes:
TFA:Supervisor Scott Wiener's proposal would make it illegal for a person over the age of 5 to "expose his or her genitals, perineum or anal region on any public street, sidewalk, street median, parklet or plaza" or while using public transit.

All this law is going to do is make them wear a G-string. If you're the sensitive sort, you're not going to need any less eyebleach after seeing Chubbo the Bear in an itty-bitty thong than you would if his junk was hanging out.
2012-11-18 09:28:57 PM
1 votes:

E_Henry_Thripshaws_Disease: is there really a large enough subset of the Castro district complaining for this to pass?

yes, there are a lot of families in the neighborhood, and even most gauys are fed up these guys

WEINER!!


I have friends who live in the Castro. There are actual non-gays there too. It was bad enough when this assholes were walking around the Castro, but a few of them like to go to the Wharf and shock the tourists. Good job setting back gay rights a decade or two. Now you've just verified all those horrid stories they heard and will take that knowledge back to Kansas.
2012-11-18 09:19:08 PM
1 votes:
I am not comfy with public nudity, but it's only a hygiene related issue for me. I don't want to put my hand on a seat where a bare butt has been. Ick. I don't want to have direct contact with butt bacteria, smegma and other nice yummy items.

There is another danger as well - while we don't have the same bunch of regular nudes in the Church/Wellesley area of Toronto (especially NOT in November), we do seem them at Pride and so forth. My son's girlfriend almost ended up giving an accidental BJ to some guy swinging his junk as he strode past. Just missed her by a hair... I prefer not to contact peoples hands in public, or lean against them in the subway, so leaning against nude bits, or being whomped by a weenie really does turn my gut a bit.

Don't care if I see them, just don't want first or second hand contact!

/Re: The article .... Wiener??? Oh c'mon, that must be pseudonym!!
//Public nudity is currently impractical. Good thing about winter.
2012-11-18 09:16:10 PM
1 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: Joce678: TuteTibiImperes: Actually, even if it were sexual I wouldn't really care. Let them get it on doggy style in the middle of the park.

It's been said before many times but the people who'd get it on in the park aren't the people you'd want to see getting it on in the park. Even you'd be like, "Ew, gross!"

I don't really have a desire to see anyone getting it on in the park, but I won't feel scarred if I do either. Jessica Alba and Scarlett Johansson having a lesbian tryst, yeah, I'd probably ogle for a bit. David Koch giving Rush Limbaugh a jolly old rogering, well, I wouldn't care to watch, but my general reaction would be 'meh' and I'd move on with my day.

Too many people choose to be offended far too often. Unless someone's actions are a direct inconvenience to me, I say live and let live.


I'm sorry, you're too tolerant, or else you're too jaded.

If I saw the latter event, my reaction would be to vomit for three minutes and then run for a 50-cal. machine gun.
2012-11-18 09:15:16 PM
1 votes:
It must be a real treat to be sitting on the bus or BART then suddenly have some guys junk dangling right at eye level with you.
2012-11-18 09:13:49 PM
1 votes:

Joce678: TuteTibiImperes: Actually, even if it were sexual I wouldn't really care. Let them get it on doggy style in the middle of the park.

It's been said before many times but the people who'd get it on in the park aren't the people you'd want to see getting it on in the park. Even you'd be like, "Ew, gross!"


I don't really have a desire to see anyone getting it on in the park, but I won't feel scarred if I do either. Jessica Alba and Scarlett Johansson having a lesbian tryst, yeah, I'd probably ogle for a bit. David Koch giving Rush Limbaugh a jolly old rogering, well, I wouldn't care to watch, but my general reaction would be 'meh' and I'd move on with my day.

Too many people choose to be offended far too often. Unless someone's actions are a direct inconvenience to me, I say live and let live.
2012-11-18 09:02:31 PM
1 votes:

Lsherm: Did you work the I-95 rest area in Virginia at mile marker 107? Because that place gets farking scary after 8pm. I have to drive from Richmond to DC twice a week and I've stopped there more than I'd like (I have the bladder of a nine year old girl). It's led me to a new rule about rest areas: if I recognize you at a rest area from the last time I was at the same rest area at a different time - you're probably up to no good. Who hangs out at rest areas for hours at a time? People up to no good, that's who. It would be different if I stopped at the rest area at the same time each commute day, then said person could just be on the same commute schedule I'm on. But I don't, so clearly this guy is hanging out there. Creeeeeeeepy.

All of this could be solved if Virginia would just trick out their rest areas like Maryland does and turn them into commerce centers with restaurants, but apparently VA state law means they have to be poorly lit hovels with a bathroom and vending machines.


What if he says the same about you?

I kid, I kid.
2012-11-18 08:58:41 PM
1 votes:
Time for a "Frisco" tag?
2012-11-18 08:44:09 PM
1 votes:

Coco LaFemme: Either you're trolling, or you're really invested in the sexual goings-on of gay men. That's the 2nd verbose post in this thread you've made on the subject of where and when gay men should be gay.


I was pondering that too. He must also vote republican.
2012-11-18 08:42:16 PM
1 votes:

Bit'O'Gristle: I remember as a public park police officer in our local big city, we would often receive telephone complaints about guys sucking each other off in the public restrooms in the park, or walking down the trails in the woods and rogering each other. We would get quite a few of these complaints. Not that i can blame the public, nothing like walking into the public restroom and seeing some dude sucking cack, and trying to explain to your little son with you, what he just saw. Not cool.

So anyway, we would be forced to dress in plainclothes, and bust these guys. This is how it usually went.

We would go in, and act like we are using the urinal, either there would be a gay guy in there already, or one would go in after seeing us go in. Then one of three things would happen. He would make a lewd sexual proposal, reach around and try to grab your junk, or you would turn around and he would be fapping looking at you. Either way, he was getting arrested. This was a ticket for lewd conduct, indecent exposure, or propositioning a police officer. 99 percent of the time they wouldn't show up in court to fight it, as they didn't want to stand there in front of everyone while i say "Yes your Honor, i saw suspect X whipping the bishop when i turned around after using the bathroom". They would just pay the fine. Now, as i said before..i have nothing against gay people, it's not my place to judge them on their sexual preference. However, i do have issue with them doing that shiat in public, where the general public might view them, esp in a park where there are kids present that might walk in on them. All I'm saying is..have some personal pride and class, people that do this shiat make the rest of the gay people easy to stereotype. And the police would rather not have to be bait and see you do that shiat. We would rather be having doughnuts and coffee.

/thanks..
//The police.


Either you're trolling, or you're really invested in the sexual goings-on of gay men. That's the 2nd verbose post in this thread you've made on the subject of where and when gay men should be gay.
2012-11-18 08:40:32 PM
1 votes:

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: If seeing nekkid people is offensive to you, avert your eyes.


hurray! may common sense prevail. nudity is natural and wonderful. if i was Great Dictator people would eat in private and fark in public. it would be a nicer world. too many folks have atrocious table manners.
2012-11-18 08:38:01 PM
1 votes:
Supervisor Wiener or is it Wiener Supervisor?
2012-11-18 08:30:57 PM
1 votes:

TheOther: Banning only ugly nekkid people seems more fair and balanced.


Precisely.

Fat, hairy, old people should never be naked. Gay or straight, male or female. I do not want to see droopy tits, saggy balls and dry wrinkly skin (including my own in case you were wondering). Hot, firm, tanned bodies can go naked all day long and I'm okay with that.

Everyone else can assemble at my home and we'll be naked in private.
2012-11-18 08:28:58 PM
1 votes:
I go to San Francisco all the time and I have never seen anyone walking around nekked. I must not be hanging around the right neighborhoods.
2012-11-18 08:27:45 PM
1 votes:
As a non San Franciscan? Why do they have to show there junk to everyone all the time? You have parades, festivals and nightclubs that appreciate your nakedness. Is it pure exhibitionism?

It seems rather unpractical unless your really doing it for other reason sex, shock value etc..
2012-11-18 08:21:32 PM
1 votes:
In other news, all this time it's been legal to walk on the streets of San Francisco with your knob out.
2012-11-18 08:18:38 PM
1 votes:

gingerjet: Lsherm: Is there really a large enough subset of the Castro district complaining for this to pass?

gayborhoods will find any reason to create lots of drama.

/which is why i refuse to live in one


They don't like hipster twinks who have been reamed in every sling bar in the city.
2012-11-18 08:11:18 PM
1 votes:
I don't see what the big deal is. Nudity isn't inherently sexual. Actually, even if it were sexual I wouldn't really care. Let them get it on doggy style in the middle of the park. As long as they clean up when they're done seeing someone else do something doesn't harm me in any way.
2012-11-18 08:07:10 PM
1 votes:

Lsherm: Is there really a large enough subset of the Castro district complaining for this to pass?


gayborhoods will find any reason to create lots of drama.

/which is why i refuse to live in one
2012-11-18 08:03:50 PM
1 votes:
Hah, this makes Fark, but not covering the cost of gender reassignment surgeries for uninsured transgender residents?
2012-11-18 08:03:40 PM
1 votes:

Lsherm: Is there really a large enough subset of the Castro district complaining for this to pass?


It doesn't really matter, it's Wiener's personal vendetta. He's been quite the dick about these guys, pun intended.
2012-11-18 08:03:33 PM
1 votes:
If seeing nekkid people is offensive to you, avert your eyes.
2012-11-18 08:02:28 PM
1 votes:

Lsherm: Supervisor Scott Wiener's proposal would make it illegal for a person over the age of 5 to "expose his or her genitals, perineum or anal region on any public street, sidewalk, street median, parklet or plaza" or while using public transit.

Even when trying to be more conservative than usual, San Francisco manages to be all about the dick. 

Is there really a large enough subset of the Castro district complaining for this to pass?


If they're fat, they're large enough to complain about, yes.

Especially if they're also hairy and pasty.
 
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