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2012-11-18 09:19:58 PM

HotWingAgenda: Knucklepopper: Good story. I think. What kind of story is this? Where in the hell are the details? What happened? I get that he died disarming a bomb, I think, but when? Where? Were any lives saved? This is supposed to be a tribute so write it as a farking tribute.

OpSec.


This. While I agree that this piece was horribly written, it is quite possible there are real security reasons for withholding all but the most general of details.
 
2012-11-18 09:20:21 PM

Your Average Witty Fark User: PaLarkin: Your Average Witty Fark User: Our troops have no business being there. Remove them all. Let those farks over there kill each other. If they become a problem, bomb the country back to the stone age.

The only problem I have with this is that bombinb Afghanistan to the stone age would be an improvement.

Ok then. Bomb the hell out of them until nothing is left standing. Better?


Yes.
 
2012-11-18 09:20:28 PM
damn dust . Ihope they can get a crane into Arlington as they will need one for this brave soldier's massive brass balls.
 
2012-11-18 09:21:29 PM

mahuika: PaLarkin: Your Average Witty Fark User: Our troops have no business being there. Remove them all. Let those farks over there kill each other. If they become a problem, bomb the country back to the stone age.

The only problem I have with this is that bombinb Afghanistan to the stone age would be an improvement.

You know there are people over there who aren't involved with all the violence and awful stuff, right? I mean, the world isn't black and white. I don't think we should be over there at all, but that doesn't mean I think everyone in the damn country should die.

I know and am friends with quite a few people who are children of immigrants from Pakistan and Afghanistan. Their less wealthy relatives still live there. It makes me wince when I see people talk about those "savages" and how the whole area needs to be turned into a parking lot.


You may be right, but it is the savages that get all the attention in the news.
 
2012-11-18 09:22:31 PM
To the National Command Authority:

Sir, I respectfully petition you for a redress of grievance, sir.

From out of the immemorial Graveyard of Empires, BRING MY PEOPLE HOME.
 
2012-11-18 09:30:24 PM
"No bye bye, Daddy," the girl said. "Don't go away."

fark. Now that little girl (and her sibling yet to be born) will always have a hole in their heart, and he misses out watching them grow up and raising them. This is just...dammit.

/kicks rock in impotent frustration
//sighs and moves on, what the hell else can you do
///I suppose we could blame somebody
//anybody
/like the next guy to post in this thread, that bastard *narrows eyes*
 
2012-11-18 09:31:12 PM
"You love playing with that. You love playing with all your stuffed animals. You love your Mommy, your Daddy. You love your pajamas. You love everything, don't ya? Yea. But you know what, buddy? As you get older... some of the things you love might not seem so special anymore. Like your Jack-in-a-Box. Maybe you'll realize it's just a piece of tin and a stuffed animal. And the older you get, the fewer things you really love. And by the time you get to my age, maybe it's only one or two things. With me, I think it's one."
 
2012-11-18 09:36:49 PM
Who farking wrote this article? Seriously, no mention that he actually DIED until you get to the second page where it mentions his funeral.
 
2012-11-18 09:38:21 PM
Time to pull out of Afghanistan and let the Afghans decide whether they want to vote or not.
 
2012-11-18 09:38:21 PM

Forecaster18: I'm so sick of the word hero. Heroes are almost nonexistent. There is no glory in war, only tragedy. How anyone can read things like this and feel pride - or anything other than soul crushing despair - is beyond me.


Well said.
 
2012-11-18 09:38:58 PM

jayphat: Who farking wrote this article? Seriously, no mention that he actually DIED until you get to the second page where it mentions his funeral.


No, but they mention the farking scandal about 4.
 
2012-11-18 09:40:40 PM

RedPhoenix122: jayphat: Who farking wrote this article? Seriously, no mention that he actually DIED until you get to the second page where it mentions his funeral.

No, but they mention the farking scandal about 4.


4 times.

Sorry, I accidentally a word.
 
2012-11-18 09:48:45 PM
I don't understand why people idolize those who participate in wars of aggression. I feel as much sympathy for this guy as I do for all those brave German soldiers who lost their lives occupying Poland and France.
 
2012-11-18 09:58:12 PM
Just wanted to state the obvious: This guy had balls of steel. That 'lonely walk' must take supernatural bravery. Here's hoping the government provides appropriately for his family.
 
2012-11-18 09:58:40 PM
As a former WPNS troop, we interfaced with EOD a lot. Rest easy, brother.
 
2012-11-18 10:02:02 PM

DrPainMD: I don't understand why people idolize those who participate in wars of aggression. I feel as much sympathy for this guy as I do for all those brave German soldiers who lost their lives occupying Poland and France.


I think there is a SLIGHT difference as to what the two situations are.
3/10 though on the try.
 
2012-11-18 10:21:39 PM

tolallorti: Just as the details were emerging of a sex scandal involving Gen. David Petraeus that the media was calling "explosive," Staff Sgt. Kenneth Wade Bennett took what bomb disposal experts call "the lonely walk" toward an improvised explosive device in Afghanistan.

farking disgustingly written. There's no reason to reference The Petraeus sex scandal in this story. Just write a respectful article, goddammit.


This. Why sully this hero's obituary with a reference to that pile of shiat?
 
2012-11-18 10:23:35 PM

Solid Muldoon: Wouldn't it be cheaper if we just bought the entire poppy crop?

And left these tribal savages to eat each other?

And lob a bomb in here and there as needed?




How about we combine the two? Convert the entire crop into opium, aerosolize it, and return it to them in 500 lb. bombs every few days. Rinse, repeat.
 
2012-11-18 10:54:46 PM
I can't believe that we can put a man on the moon and we can't stop killing each other.

adeist69: Solid Muldoon: Wouldn't it be cheaper if we just bought the entire poppy crop?

No, they'd just stop growing anything else and increase the poppy crop

And left these tribal savages to eat each other?
I'm okay with this.jpg
And lob a bomb in here and there as needed?
You had me up to here
How about we combine the two? Convert the entire crop into opium, aerosolize it, and return it to them in 500 lb. bombs every few days. Rinse, repeat.
 
2012-11-18 10:57:45 PM
Shakespeare's Sister Smartest Funniest
2012-11-18 08:34:48 PM

Damn I need to dust in here a lot more often.

Bring the troops home. Carpet bomb that farking shiat hole back to the stone age. Until all the sand has fused to glass with those farkers fused in it.


^ This.

I can see having EOD guys in places where there's something to save, but FFS, if it looks "suspicious" and is in Afghanistan, don't send a human, just blow it the fark up from a safe distance.

That entire population isn't worth the life of one (1) American soldier.
 
2012-11-18 11:02:21 PM
God bless the EOD and RCP guys. They got bigger balls than me.

/got home from Afghaniland 2 months ago.
//Our RCP unit had 10 heroes by the time we left.
 
2012-11-18 11:04:18 PM

Rent Party: We should thank veterans by ceasing to create them.


you mean insist people graduate from high school????
 
2012-11-18 11:04:30 PM

Forecaster18: Hankie Fest: No bye-bye, Daddy. No bye-bye.

We've wasted so many lives in the last 11 years. Sad and sickening.


Consider my heart broken.

/900 miles from family
//Get to see them next week
///Contract work is a mixed blessing
 
2012-11-18 11:04:41 PM

shotglasss: tolallorti: Just as the details were emerging of a sex scandal involving Gen. David Petraeus that the media was calling "explosive," Staff Sgt. Kenneth Wade Bennett took what bomb disposal experts call "the lonely walk" toward an improvised explosive device in Afghanistan.

farking disgustingly written. There's no reason to reference The Petraeus sex scandal in this story. Just write a respectful article, goddammit.

This. Why sully this hero's obituary with a reference to that pile of shiat?


I think the point was to try to illustrate how out of whack the media's priorities are that this guy got no mention while the sex scandal was on 24 hour rotation. It wasn't artfully done, however; so it came off as crass.

Colbert had one of his most poignant moments as a satirist this week when he said (paraphrasing), "Come on, if we were really still fighting a war in Afghanistan, don't you think the media would be covering that, and not this bullshiat?" (referring to the CIA sex scandal)
 
2012-11-18 11:07:27 PM

sirford: God bless the EOD and RCP guys. They got bigger balls than me.

/got home from Afghaniland 2 months ago.
//Our RCP unit had 10 heroes by the time we left.


Is it okay for me to beg you not to go back? Does that constitute a demoralizing statement? If it does, I'll take it back even though I really don't want anyone to go back to war anymore.
 
2012-11-18 11:08:11 PM

While we can make the image larger for the man, it doesn't make the man a larger hero. The man has done that himself better than I ever could.

Nonetheless, subby asked, and it's the least I can do to oblige.

imageshack.us
 
2012-11-18 11:26:05 PM
Sorry you died protecting the heroin trade.
 
2012-11-18 11:35:13 PM
RIP, man.

/Taps
 
2012-11-18 11:49:10 PM
In fairness to the Talibanskies it was they who curtailed the opium crop. It reached record levels during the most recent occupation.
 
2012-11-19 12:00:57 AM
Ever since I've become a father, it's getting tougher and tougher to read those quotes from kids.

Luckily, I can still pick on midgets.
 
2012-11-19 12:08:19 AM
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2012-11-19 12:10:49 AM

OnlyM3: Shakespeare's Sister Smartest Funniest
2012-11-18 08:34:48 PM

Damn I need to dust in here a lot more often.

Bring the troops home. Carpet bomb that farking shiat hole back to the stone age. Until all the sand has fused to glass with those farkers fused in it.

^ This.

I can see having EOD guys in places where there's something to save, but FFS, if it looks "suspicious" and is in Afghanistan, don't send a human, just blow it the fark up from a safe distance.

That entire population isn't worth the life of one (1) American soldier.


A large part of the issue is the fact that over the past 50 years, Afghanistan has been bombed back to the stone age several times. As a matter of fact, over the past 50 years that country has seen more years of war than peace. Bombing it into the stone age would, at this time, be to maintain the status quo...thanks to the Soviets from '79 through to '91 and the ISAF (Americans, Canadians, British, Pakistanis, etc) for the past 11 years.

And your mentality regarding the lives of Afghans vs that of Americans is farking horrific. God only knows how many Afghan lives have been lost...and I am willing to bet that someone misses each and every one of those souls, be they combatants or not. Some of them likely had two year old girls that didn't want to lose their father as well. So fark you, and I sincerely hope you die a horrific death.
 
2012-11-19 12:12:16 AM
Also, RIP SSgt. Bennett. I hope your family finds peace in this troubling time.
 
2012-11-19 12:58:31 AM

OnlyM3: Shakespeare's Sister Smartest Funniest
2012-11-18 08:34:48 PM

Damn I need to dust in here a lot more often.

Bring the troops home. Carpet bomb that farking shiat hole back to the stone age. Until all the sand has fused to glass with those farkers fused in it.

^ This.

I can see having EOD guys in places where there's something to save, but FFS, if it looks "suspicious" and is in Afghanistan, don't send a human, just blow it the fark up from a safe distance.

That entire population isn't worth the life of one (1) American soldier.

 

When it is not by something irreplaceable why not just pack it with C4 and rock paper scissors to see who gets to blow it up? I
 
2012-11-19 12:58:53 AM
I used to have to confront bombs on semi-regular basis. Sometimes my friends would be there, other times they couldn't stomach the thought of it, and wouldn't even be there to provide backup. I'd wander up never knowing what to expect, hoping this time I could walk away without making the ultimate sacrifice. But then I saw Paul Blart: Mall Cop, and it all blew up in my face. The horror... the horror....
 
2012-11-19 02:04:48 AM
Put an egg in your shoe and beat it Soupy. You're not fit to raise your eyes from the ground to the faces of this man's family.
 
2012-11-19 02:15:06 AM

lenfromak: Bin Laden's dead. Can we stop sending people there to their deaths?


What in the name of fark all are we still doing there?
 
2012-11-19 02:45:18 AM

pete1729: lenfromak: Bin Laden's dead. Can we stop sending people there to their deaths?

What in the name of fark all are we still doing there?


Something.

A friend of mine was over there this spring and summer. He was doing something or other that had to do with building a justice center in some shiathole of a village someplace over there. Worked with the local warlord and his henchmen (I swear, he was posting pics to his Facebook page and that's what they looked like--henchmen). He was there six months, and as they were pulling out, he and his unit were getting rocks thrown at them as they left.

Why ARE we still there?
 
2012-11-19 02:56:27 AM

craxyd: clevernamehere: craxyd: Rent Party: We should thank veterans by ceasing to create them.


Please explain.

my guess is he means the best tribute to all veterans would be to cease all wars, thus no longer creating veterans.

let this crop be the last, 'n all that



/o. /o. /o. /o.


I was thinking it was something along those lines.
Unfortunately, there will always be a need for people to do the unpleasant yet necessary job of going out there when called upon by our country.
Should we still have troops over in the Litterbox? I'm inclined to agree with those saying "Not anymore dammit!" but at the same time, I say we be ready. Sometimes, smacking someone upside their head with President Roosevelt's big stick is the only option.


Horseshiat.

All wars are fought for money. The one I fought in was fought for money, and this one is being fought for money, too. This isn't a "necessary job." The "necessary job" was farked up 12 years ago, and there is absolutely *nothing* salvageable from it.

This kid will grow up without a father so flag waving assholes don't have to say "Whoops, lost another war!" and Lockheed Martin can sell us another suite of useless F-35's and F-22s.

Want to honor veterans? Stop making them.
 
2012-11-19 03:19:43 AM

pete1729: lenfromak: Bin Laden's dead. Can we stop sending people there to their deaths?

What in the name of fark all are we still doing there?


Training them to shoot us.
 
2012-11-19 03:28:06 AM
Rent Party: All wars are fought for money.

Please explain the US/Nato intervention in Kosovo and Somalia. You might want to clarify and refine your ovesimplistic and juvenile initial analysis.

Want to honor veterans? "Act honorably" is a better dictum. This includes waging war only as a last resort when it is necessary to secure the life and freedom of the oppressed, regardless of personal benefit OR HARM to yourselves.

The US/NATO operations in Kosovo and Bosnia were overall a resounding success. They ended a bitter conflict and saved tens of thousands of lives. What is the US's reward for this?

- the US taxpayer got to pay for it but...
- alternative narratives in the region obscure this fact. A Greek PhD engineer that I knew at a top university swore that "all greeks know" that DU shells that the US used in Kosovo "killed over 100,000 and continue to cause birth defects bla bla". In order words, little to no thanks from the immediate and surrounding region.
- much of this was waged in defense of muslim populations. of course, little to no appreciation of this fact from the greater muslim world.

in my view, US operations in Kosovo were honorable and on balance a spectacular success. But, we shouldn't judge solely by outcome. As such, I believe that US actions in Somalia were also very honorable. Unfortunately the US lacked the resources (in that case, political will and intestinal fortitude) to carry out the mission successfully due in part to the smallmindedness of cowards who basically decided that simply preventing people from dying was not in our national interest.
 
2012-11-19 03:40:59 AM

Bomb Head Mohammed: Rent Party: All wars are fought for money.

Please explain the US/Nato intervention in Kosovo and Somalia. You might want to clarify and refine your ovesimplistic and juvenile initial analysis.


The only reason we got involved in Kosovo and Bosnia is because they share a border with some of the largest economies in western Europe. It would have really sucked if that little civil war spilled over into Italy, Hungary, or Romania, ya know? Which is exactly why we didn't do shiat about Rwanda, Darfur, or Sudan, even though the levels of genocide there exceeded what happened in ye' old Slovaks.

So in short, fark you and your "juvenile analysis." All wars are fought for money, and you are exactly the kind of sucker that they depend on to support it.
 
2012-11-19 04:15:11 AM
fark war.
 
2012-11-19 06:29:08 AM

Knucklepopper: Good story. I think. What kind of story is this? Where in the hell are the details? What happened? I get that he died disarming a bomb, I think, but when?


I just about got that he died, but as far as I could see it might have been in a car crash while shopping on leave.

Tip: The Small Back Room is an excellent novel about bomb disposal.
 
2012-11-19 08:13:41 AM
Tho' I've belted you an' flayed you,
By the livin' Gawd that made you,
You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din...

/rest easy soldier, you've earned your keep 3 times over.
 
2012-11-19 09:12:12 AM
That IED looks exactly like a small child.
i see how he fell for it.
 
2012-11-19 10:40:57 AM
"Step forward now, you soldier,
You've borne your burdens well.
Walk peacefully on Heaven's streets,
You've done your time in Hell"
 
2012-11-19 11:46:17 AM
Rent Party: "The only reason we got involved in Kosovo and Bosnia is because they share a border with some of the largest economies in western Europe."

Have you looked at a map recently?

Kosovo borders: precisely nothing that can be seen as a "largest economy in europe" or even "an important economy in europe."
B/H borders: precisely nothing that can be seen as a "largest economy in europe" or even "an important economy in europe."
Serbia borders: precisely nothing that can be seen as a "largest economy in europe" or even "an important economy in europe."
The chances that the conflict would have "spilled over" into something like Hungary anyway: zero.

But, you know, keep grasping as straws, you muppet. But I'm sure you were in a rush for mom to drive you to the mall as you needed more goth makeup.
 
2012-11-19 01:27:26 PM

Bomb Head Mohammed: Rent Party: "The only reason we got involved in Kosovo and Bosnia is because they share a border with some of the largest economies in western Europe."

Have you looked at a map recently?

Kosovo borders: precisely nothing that can be seen as a "largest economy in europe" or even "an important economy in europe."
B/H borders: precisely nothing that can be seen as a "largest economy in europe" or even "an important economy in europe."
Serbia borders: precisely nothing that can be seen as a "largest economy in europe" or even "an important economy in europe."
The chances that the conflict would have "spilled over" into something like Hungary anyway: zero.

But, you know, keep grasping as straws, you muppet. But I'm sure you were in a rush for mom to drive you to the mall as you needed more goth makeup.


Really? You mean The north east border of Italy *isn't* just a 15 mile hop across the bay to Croatia? And it's *not* 40 miles from Triest to Riejka? And Croatia and Serbia *don't* share almost 500 miles of border with Romania and Hungary? And the only thing between Croatia and Austria is all 30 miles of Slovenia?

Are you living in some alternate universe with different maps than the rest of reality? Or are you simply unable to differentiate the imaginary world in your head from the objective reality that exists outside your observation?

Either way, you're a moron, pure and simple.
 
2012-11-19 01:29:57 PM
Oh yeah, Italy's economy is the fourth largest in Europe, just barely behind the UK and Frances. So you're an idiot there, too.
 
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