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(Palm Beach Post)   Allen West loses race when the recount he demanded isn't completed in time, state uses prior week's results   (palmbeachpost.com ) divider line
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2012-11-18 09:30:20 PM  

DubyaHater: MisterRonbo: DubyaHater: One more dirty TeaBagger getting the axe. Sounds great to me. Enjoy the circle jerk at Fox News Mr. West.

Is Juan Williams planning to retire?

Because Roger Ailes doesn't need two tokens.

Why not? Maybe having two minorities will draw in black voters, whom the republicans are so desperately trying to pander to at this moment.


They fill two totally different niches!

Juan Williams = used to work for homocommunazi NPR, then saw the light and now sides with Truth, Justice, and the American Way

Allen West = Real American Hero, knows that "24" is a documentary, tough on muslims so we consider him an honorary white man
 
2012-11-18 09:32:19 PM  

p the boiler: Maybe if they invested more in education in Florida they would be able to count in situations such as these.


Florida should gerrymander their congressional districts so that none of them have more than eleven voters. That way, even Republicans could count them, if they took their pants off.
 
2012-11-18 09:48:35 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: WTF is up with Florida? Do the rest of us have to go down there and teach you mofos how to goddamn COUNT?


They can count.

transitionculture.org
 
2012-11-18 09:50:52 PM  
How's that voter suppression thing working out for you?

BWAHAHAHAHAHA
 
2012-11-18 09:55:13 PM  

Parthenogenetic: DubyaHater: MisterRonbo: DubyaHater: One more dirty TeaBagger getting the axe. Sounds great to me. Enjoy the circle jerk at Fox News Mr. West.

Is Juan Williams planning to retire?

Because Roger Ailes doesn't need two tokens.

Why not? Maybe having two minorities will draw in black voters, whom the republicans are so desperately trying to pander to at this moment.

They fill two totally different niches!

Juan Williams = used to work for homocommunazi NPR, then saw the light and now sides with Truth, Justice, and the American Way

Allen West = Real American Hero, knows that "24" is a documentary, tough on muslims so we consider him an honorary white man


Allen West is way, way higher on the Persecution Scale of Justice than Juan WIilliams.
 
2012-11-18 10:04:39 PM  

RexTalionis: For no reason, here's me with Cornel West.


How do we know he's a Cornel? He's not in uniform.
 
2012-11-18 10:33:07 PM  

quatchi: Flaming Yawn: As a "glass half empty" kind of guy I am still dismayed that this kind of scumbag gets 50% of the votes from ANY kind of electorate

Yes, that is somewhat disheartening and doesn't speak well of voters who would cast a ballot based purely on partisan politics for someone so blatantly unprepared for and undeserving of the job of representative as convicted war criminal Allen West.

I'd rather have seen a wholesale rejection of Tea Party extremism here as well, of course, but I will take a narrow squeaky win over the forces of derp any time and call it a good day.


Hopefully a term for the GOOD guy will show the Derpinoids that having a Democrat in office instead of Allen West didn't bring about the Maxist Apocalypse they were always biatching about.
 
2012-11-18 10:34:33 PM  

realmolo: The problem with that is, you'd have the loser ENDLESSLY claiming there were more votes that hadn't been counted yet. How would you know when to stop? Would you keep the election undecided until EVERY registered voter had been accounted for? How would you do that? Have another vote, and require every registered voter to show up?


I know! Keeping track of the names of all the people who cast a ballot, and then keeping track of all the ballots, is simply impossible. Can you imagine the immense size and expense of a machine that could store a few hundred kilobytes of information per precinct? Such a system is unimaginable. Perhaps in the far future, like in 1890 or something, someone will be able to invent something like that.
 
2012-11-18 10:35:50 PM  
FTA: "'As usual, Murphy's people are full of garbage,' said Tim Edson, West's campaign manager."

What the hell? No one expects politics to be pretty, but for crying out loud, at least act like an adult. Sheesh.
 
2012-11-18 10:36:13 PM  
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RIP Allen West
 
2012-11-18 10:49:34 PM  
As long as West loses. It was hilarious seeing pictures of him having to clean out his old district office.

Republicans are losers.
 
2012-11-18 11:05:19 PM  
What the lame stream media won't tell you is that the Florida Division of Elections was being intimidated by New Black Panthers.
 
2012-11-18 11:14:17 PM  

Bigdogdaddy: RIP Allen West


No, he's fine and doing voices on that cartoon. You're thinking of the guy that was lost in space.

Cheers.
 
2012-11-18 11:15:05 PM  

Boxcutta: What the lame stream media won't tell you is that the Florida Division of Elections was being intimidated by New Black Panthers.


I thought the Florida Panthers were extinct.
 
2012-11-18 11:27:14 PM  

simplicimus: Boxcutta: What the lame stream media won't tell you is that the Florida Division of Elections was being intimidated by New Black Panthers.

I thought the Florida Panthers were extinct.


They sure do.

[thecritic]
 
2012-11-18 11:27:59 PM  

simplicimus: Boxcutta: What the lame stream media won't tell you is that the Florida Division of Elections was being intimidated by New Black Panthers.

I thought the Florida Panthers were extinct.


Gary Bettman killed them.
 
2012-11-18 11:28:46 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Hopefully a term for the GOOD guy will show the Derpinoids that having a Democrat in office instead of Allen West didn't bring about the Marxist Apocalypse they were always biatching about.


I hope so too.

/I dare to dream.
 
2012-11-18 11:33:25 PM  
Freeper- West would make a great Commander of the New Continental Army 2013.
 
2012-11-18 11:45:22 PM  

rynthetyn: simplicimus: Boxcutta: What the lame stream media won't tell you is that the Florida Division of Elections was being intimidated by New Black Panthers.

I thought the Florida Panthers were extinct.

Gary Bettman killed them.


Welcome to Obama's America.
 
2012-11-18 11:54:20 PM  

Altitude5280: Freeper- West would make a great Commander of the New Continental Army 2013.


We'll just see about that: 
i18.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-18 11:57:45 PM  

Boxcutta: rynthetyn: simplicimus: Boxcutta: What the lame stream media won't tell you is that the Florida Division of Elections was being intimidated by New Black Panthers.

I thought the Florida Panthers were extinct.

Gary Bettman killed them.

Welcome to Obama's America.


But I thought 0bama was totally in favor of unions destroying good companies, shouldn't he have forced the owners into a deal by now?
 
2012-11-19 12:18:44 AM  

rynthetyn: Boxcutta: rynthetyn: simplicimus: Boxcutta: What the lame stream media won't tell you is that the Florida Division of Elections was being intimidated by New Black Panthers.

I thought the Florida Panthers were extinct.

Gary Bettman killed them.

Welcome to Obama's America.

But I thought 0bama was totally in favor of unions destroying good companies, shouldn't he have forced the owners into a deal by now?


Blah presidents don't care about hockey.
 
2012-11-19 12:39:14 AM  

Parthenogenetic: DubyaHater: MisterRonbo: DubyaHater: One more dirty TeaBagger getting the axe. Sounds great to me. Enjoy the circle jerk at Fox News Mr. West.

Is Juan Williams planning to retire?

Because Roger Ailes doesn't need two tokens.

Why not? Maybe having two minorities will draw in black voters, whom the republicans are so desperately trying to pander to at this moment.

They fill two totally different niches!

Juan Williams = used to work for homocommunazi NPR, then saw the light and now sides with Truth, Justice, and the American Way

Allen West = Real American Hero, knows that "24" is a documentary, tough on muslims so we consider him an honorary white man


Until he's walking toward you in the dark, where reality doesn't count honorary, because play time is over.
 
2012-11-19 12:47:32 AM  
I look forward to the Florida Supreme Court chiding election officials for "hypertechnical reliance upon statutory provisions" in following dates prescribed by law, just as they did in the Bush recounts.
 
2012-11-19 12:53:52 AM  

jso2897: RexTalionis: Edson, however, said other problems arose this morning, when the recount resumed at 8 a.m. The recount showed 900 voters cast ballots in precinct 93, where there are 7 registered voters, Edson said.

You know, I wonder if that's related from the voter roll purges the Republican governor Rick Scott instituted, which means that those people had to cast provisional ballots.

That would be amusingly poetic justice. Anyway, the supremes ruled on this back in 2000 - when it's over, it's over.
It would be hilarious if West managed to get the issue in front of them again. Watching Scalia trying to find a way to flip-flop on his own ruling would be delicious.


You know he would do it. He shredded his concurring opinion in Gonzales v. Raich just to try and stick it Obama. He'd invent some absolutely ludicrous and fanciful distinction between this case and Bush v. Gore that allows him to say Allen West was cheated out of a win.
 
2012-11-19 12:58:42 AM  

jjorsett: I look forward to the Florida Supreme Court chiding election officials for "hypertechnical reliance upon statutory provisions" in following dates prescribed by law, just as they did in the Bush recounts.


I did not know that "chiding" was a formal power of the courts.

Say - you're not just talking shiat again, are you?
 
2012-11-19 01:35:24 AM  

MisterRonbo: We didn't count some ballots, and double-counted some ballots. And then we stalled until three days before the deadline, and then we, uh, couldn't find the alarm code and so we couldn't stay late and finish. Yeah, that sounds totally legit....Really, Farkers? Really?


With such a close election, I was mildly supportive of West's desire of a recount. That is, until he only wanted the early votes recounted. That's when he lost any high ground. There is only one recount--a full one. Otherwise some votes are getting more scrutiny than others and I think that's a violation of Equal Protection. Either you count all district-wide votes, or none. "Partial" recounts are an inherent violation of the very concept of universal suffrage.
 
2012-11-19 02:28:08 AM  

coeyagi: I would love to see a Tim Burton mega-size Cornel West model (a la like something out of Peewee's Big Adventure) devour Allen West.


Cornell West is Best West!

/or maybe co-best with Adam West
 
2012-11-19 03:06:40 AM  
Fun factoid. If this ends up in the Florida Supreme Court, one of the current justices is the guy who refused to allow Florida to just hold a whole new vote in 2000.
 
2012-11-19 03:35:30 AM  

TheMysticS:

Cornell West is Best West!

/or maybe co-best with Adam West


Don't forget his ward, Burt Ward
 
2012-11-19 03:43:05 AM  
I really don't get why this is an issue.

You don't want the guy who wasn't actually elected to take the position, and you don't want the guy in the position to have a cloud of fraud following his service. Just do the farking recount and move on.
 
2012-11-19 04:01:51 AM  

starsrift: I really don't get why this is an issue.

You don't want the guy who wasn't actually elected to take the position, and you don't want the guy in the position to have a cloud of fraud following his service. Just do the farking recount and move on.


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No, that's not how it works. Recounts are done in close elections, where they stand a statistical chance of actually swinging the result. This is not that close of an election. It's not even the closest House election this cycle, or the 2nd closest. It's just the only election where the loser threw a gigantic hissy fit and hired a bunch of lawyers.

Throwing a gigantic hissy fit and hiring a bunch of lawyers does not entitle one to a recount. Being within .5% does. And West is not within .5%, so that's that.
 
2012-11-19 04:08:37 AM  

dahmers love zombie: "You repulsive, lying war criminal."

Sock Ruh Tease: "Noted war criminal Allen West loses race..."

coeyagi: "...probably had no idea what a raving lunatic this guy was or that he committed war crimes..."

quatchi: "...someone so blatantly unprepared for and undeserving of the job of representative as convicted war criminal Allen West."



Calling Allen West a "war criminal" cheapens the term to near-meaninglessness. West's "crime" was asking a guy for information without saying please, and making a loud noise.

What he did isn't a war crime any more than telling your kid, "You come here right now or else!" is child abuse.
 
2012-11-19 04:18:51 AM  

balloot: starsrift: I really don't get why this is an issue.

You don't want the guy who wasn't actually elected to take the position, and you don't want the guy in the position to have a cloud of fraud following his service. Just do the farking recount and move on.

----------------------------------

No, that's not how it works. Recounts are done in close elections, where they stand a statistical chance of actually swinging the result. This is not that close of an election. It's not even the closest House election this cycle, or the 2nd closest. It's just the only election where the loser threw a gigantic hissy fit and hired a bunch of lawyers.

Throwing a gigantic hissy fit and hiring a bunch of lawyers does not entitle one to a recount. Being within .5% does. And West is not within .5%, so that's that.


Also, the idea of counting and recounting the ballots until you get the desired result is a long and corrupt Florida tradition to the point that it was even referenced in the Humphrey Bogart movie, "Key Largo." Multiple recounts when it's outside of the .5% margin is just asking for fraud in the recount.
 
2012-11-19 04:19:35 AM  

spmkk: dahmers love zombie: "You repulsive, lying war criminal."
Sock Ruh Tease: "Noted war criminal Allen West loses race..."
coeyagi: "...probably had no idea what a raving lunatic this guy was or that he committed war crimes..."
quatchi: "...someone so blatantly unprepared for and undeserving of the job of representative as convicted war criminal Allen West."


Calling Allen West a "war criminal" cheapens the term to near-meaninglessness. West's "crime" was asking a guy for information without saying please, and making a loud noise.

What he did isn't a war crime any more than telling your kid, "You come here right now or else!" is child abuse.


Staging a mock execution like he did is a violation of the Geneva Convention and most definitely a war crime.
 
2012-11-19 04:20:43 AM  

balloot: Throwing a gigantic hissy fit and hiring a bunch of lawyers does not entitle one to a recount. Being within .5% does. And West is not within .5%, so that's that.


Being outside the mandatory recount percentage does not exclude the possibility of an optional recount.
There are only two reasons to not perform a recount, and those are cost - fine, make West's campaign pay for it - and the possibility of an actual change in results - not probable. So whatever, do it, get it done, and move on.
 
2012-11-19 04:24:01 AM  

spmkk: Calling Allen West a "war criminal" cheapens the term to near-meaninglessness. West's "crime" was asking a guy for information without saying please, and making a loud noise.


You are seriously equating a mock execution (a favorite tactic of terrorist groups, btw) to telling a kid to come in for dinner?

And you are expecting a serious response?

*tousles hair*

Get out of here, ya rascal.

/Almost fell for that.
 
2012-11-19 07:18:06 AM  

jso2897: RexTalionis: Edson, however, said other problems arose this morning, when the recount resumed at 8 a.m. The recount showed 900 voters cast ballots in precinct 93, where there are 7 registered voters, Edson said.

You know, I wonder if that's related from the voter roll purges the Republican governor Rick Scott instituted, which means that those people had to cast provisional ballots.

That would be amusingly poetic justice. Anyway, the supremes ruled on this back in 2000 - when it's over, it's over.
It would be hilarious if West managed to get the issue in front of them again. Watching Scalia trying to find a way to flip-flop on his own ruling would be delicious.


AHHHHH, a FarkLibtard finally agreeing with the supreme court on the election ruling in 2000. A Farklibtard agrees that Bush won the election.

BWAAAAAAAAA-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Now, from this point forward, all libtards must agree Bush won the election, and the Supreme Court made an excellent ruling on the situation. No more biatching, tards.
 
2012-11-19 08:15:33 AM  

spmkk: dahmers love zombie: "You repulsive, lying war criminal."
Sock Ruh Tease: "Noted war criminal Allen West loses race..."
coeyagi: "...probably had no idea what a raving lunatic this guy was or that he committed war crimes..."
quatchi: "...someone so blatantly unprepared for and undeserving of the job of representative as convicted war criminal Allen West."


Calling Allen West a "war criminal" cheapens the term to near-meaninglessness. West's "crime" was asking a guy for information without saying please, and making a loud noise.

What he did isn't a war crime any more than telling your kid, "You come here right now or else!" is child abuse.


You know how I know you are a teabagger.

Facts, you dont know them.
 
2012-11-19 08:16:38 AM  

Tumunga: AHHHHH, a FarkLibtard finally agreeing with the supreme court on the election ruling in 2000. A Farklibtard agrees that Bush won the election.

BWAAAAAAAAA-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Now, from this point forward, all libtards must agree Bush won the election, and the Supreme Court made an excellent ruling on the situation. No more biatching, tards.



You've had so much fun on your vacations, I guess you want another one? lol
 
2012-11-19 09:01:53 AM  
Screwing up the election process in that state has finally come back to bite the GOP in the ass. My grandpa, who stopped working elections in that state after the 2000 debacle (they kept ordering him to move the precinct signs away from the main drag so people were having trouble finding the place), is laughing his ass off.
 
2012-11-19 12:27:52 PM  

rynthetyn: Calling Allen West a "war criminal" cheapens the term to near-meaninglessness. West's "crime" was asking a guy for information without saying please, and making a loud noise.

What he did isn't a war crime any more than telling your kid, "You come here right now or else!" is child abuse.

Staging a mock execution like he did is a violation of the Geneva Convention and most definitely a war crime.



Just to head off the inevitable [Citation Needed]

"No physical or mental torture, nor any other form of coercion, may be inflicted on prisoners of war to secure from them information of any kind whatever. Prisoners of war who refuse to answer may not be threatened, insulted, or exposed to any unpleasant or disadvantageous treatment of any kind. "

Geneva Convention relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War (Article 17)

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(if my preview is common to all, change "-8 E 6E-" to "-8E6E-"
 
2012-11-19 03:14:04 PM  

starsrift: balloot: Throwing a gigantic hissy fit and hiring a bunch of lawyers does not entitle one to a recount. Being within .5% does. And West is not within .5%, so that's that.

Being outside the mandatory recount percentage does not exclude the possibility of an optional recount.
There are only two reasons to not perform a recount, and those are cost - fine, make West's campaign pay for it - and the possibility of an actual change in results - not probable. So whatever, do it, get it done, and move on.


I thought recounts were covered in 2000. I don't believe the Supreme Court excluded Republicans from their ruling.
 
2012-11-19 03:41:52 PM  

rnld: starsrift: balloot: Throwing a gigantic hissy fit and hiring a bunch of lawyers does not entitle one to a recount. Being within .5% does. And West is not within .5%, so that's that.

Being outside the mandatory recount percentage does not exclude the possibility of an optional recount.
There are only two reasons to not perform a recount, and those are cost - fine, make West's campaign pay for it - and the possibility of an actual change in results - not probable. So whatever, do it, get it done, and move on.

I thought recounts were covered in 2000. I don't believe the Supreme Court excluded Republicans from their ruling.


Personally, I'm waiting for a consortium of journalists to step in and do an independent recount by paying the county to display each ballot (under Florida's Sunshine Law), photograph them and count them..


/not really Maybe the Freepers will do it.
 
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