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(ESPN)   Derek Dooley gets Rocky Topped by Tennessee after 41-18 loss to Vandy, guaranteeing three straight losing seasons   (espn.go.com) divider line 86
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2012-11-18 12:33:33 PM
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2012-11-18 12:35:11 PM
He should have been tossed after the Troy game. Good riddance, my patience with you had run out.
 
2012-11-18 12:45:04 PM
Honestly, the writing was on the wall last December when Wilcox and a lot of other assistants bolted. Hiring Sal Sunseri to change the entire defensive scheme in a year when he was on the hot seat was not only a ridiculously bad idea, but it backfired in the worst way. This team was on a pace to be the most powerful offense in the history of Tennessee (until yesterday's awful performance), which is remarkable. I liked Dooley and really wanted him to succeed, but results matter, and his results this season have been the worst in my lifetime as a Vols fan. Sorry, Derek. I will miss your orange pants.
 
2012-11-18 01:22:24 PM
That coaching carousel, how I do love to watch the schools ride it and wonder why they keep sucking.
 
2012-11-18 01:36:21 PM

basemetal: That coaching carousel, how I do love to watch the schools ride it and wonder why they keep sucking.


I guess you could always stay on the Stoops train of mediocrity.

I liked Dooley a lot personally. He's a good man who cares about his staff and athletes. Unfortunately, like a lawyer, you don't want a good guy. You want a pit bull with nothing but winning as a priority.
 
2012-11-18 01:37:58 PM
Yeah, I liked Dooley as a person, but f*ck this noise. Worst season UT's had since I can remember paying attention to sports.
 
2012-11-18 01:48:03 PM
LOL

First Joker. Now Drooley. Next Chizik?

#anchordown!
 
2012-11-18 01:56:59 PM

PluckYew: LOL

First Joker. Now Drooley. Next Chizik?

#anchordown!


If you are in the SEC and you lose to Vandy, yer fired.
 
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2012-11-18 02:00:00 PM

kwame: Stoops


Stoops is mediocre? gtfo.
 
2012-11-18 02:02:34 PM

Nabb1: Honestly, the writing was on the wall last December when Wilcox and a lot of other assistants bolted.


I work with someone who knows the Wilcox family (they're native to the Pac NW) and apparently Justin was more than thrilled to bail out of Tennessee. I don't think he had anything bad to say about Dooley, but he didn't like the the players' attitude at all. Apparently he told a lot of people privately (maybe publicly too, but I haven't seen anything in the papers) that most of the kids on their defense were just smug assholes who already thought they were hot sh*t simply for "being in the SEC" although on a current bottom feeder like UT and didn't take too kindly to spending several hours learning and studying Wilcox's schemes when playing lesser opponents (but again, for UT, only an FCS team right now is a "lesser opponent")

The Huskies aren't that great by any means, and have been blown out in some games, but overall Wilcox has vastly improved the defense, going from one of the worst last year to 29th in the FBS this season. The guy is a damn good coordinator.
 
2012-11-18 02:03:21 PM
There's only one man for the job.

assets.sbnation.com
 
2012-11-18 02:03:43 PM

delathi: PluckYew: LOL

First Joker. Now Drooley. Next Chizik?

#anchordown!

If you are in the SEC and you lose to Vandy, yer fired.


Maybe, for now. Vanderbilt's on the rise and future losses to us won't been seen as failures. So long as we can keep coach Franklin and Shoop.

DiNardo parlayed a 5-6 Vanderbilt record into the LSU job. Wonder what offers Franklin gets after winning 8, possibly 9 and taking this team to bowls in back to back seasons for the first time ever.
 
2012-11-18 02:10:18 PM
Vandy seems to be killing a lot of coaches this year. Who's next?
 
2012-11-18 02:10:22 PM

coolio mack: There's only one man for the job.

[assets.sbnation.com image 550x367]


F*ck no.
 
2012-11-18 02:13:36 PM

Killer Cars: Nabb1: Honestly, the writing was on the wall last December when Wilcox and a lot of other assistants bolted.

I work with someone who knows the Wilcox family (they're native to the Pac NW) and apparently Justin was more than thrilled to bail out of Tennessee. I don't think he had anything bad to say about Dooley, but he didn't like the the players' attitude at all. Apparently he told a lot of people privately (maybe publicly too, but I haven't seen anything in the papers) that most of the kids on their defense were just smug assholes who already thought they were hot sh*t simply for "being in the SEC" although on a current bottom feeder like UT and didn't take too kindly to spending several hours learning and studying Wilcox's schemes when playing lesser opponents (but again, for UT, only an FCS team right now is a "lesser opponent")

The Huskies aren't that great by any means, and have been blown out in some games, but overall Wilcox has vastly improved the defense, going from one of the worst last year to 29th in the FBS this season. The guy is a damn good coordinator.


I'm sure being the reason one of the best offensive trios in the country wasn't able to savor in their efforts would bring some down a notch, wouldn't it?
 
2012-11-18 02:16:01 PM
Vols fans might love it, but the repeated playing of that god-awful song "Rocky Top" at any Vols gave is just excruciating to everyone else.

Of course, I suspect that that's a big reason why Vols fans love it.
 
2012-11-18 02:23:10 PM

kwame: basemetal: That coaching carousel, how I do love to watch the schools ride it and wonder why they keep sucking.

I guess you could always stay on the Stoops train of mediocrity.

I liked Dooley a lot personally. He's a good man who cares about his staff and athletes. Unfortunately, like a lawyer, you don't want a good guy. You want a pit bull with nothing but winning as a priority.


No disrespect intended, kwame, OU was on that carousel for a while in the 90's, no stability, that means no recruits, that means inconsistency, and in the SEC, that means you are going to lose.
 
2012-11-18 02:24:26 PM

basemetal: kwame: basemetal: That coaching carousel, how I do love to watch the schools ride it and wonder why they keep sucking.

I guess you could always stay on the Stoops train of mediocrity.

I liked Dooley a lot personally. He's a good man who cares about his staff and athletes. Unfortunately, like a lawyer, you don't want a good guy. You want a pit bull with nothing but winning as a priority.

No disrespect intended, kwame, OU was on that carousel for a while in the 90's, no stability, that means no recruits, that means inconsistency, and in the SEC, that means you are going to lose.


Oh, and you wish you had Bob.
 
2012-11-18 02:29:40 PM

delathi: PluckYew: LOL

First Joker. Now Drooley. Next Chizik?

#anchordown!

If you are in the SEC and you lose to Vandy, yer fired.


So is "getting Franklin'd" the new "getting Croom'd"?
 
2012-11-18 02:43:03 PM

basemetal: kwame: basemetal: That coaching carousel, how I do love to watch the schools ride it and wonder why they keep sucking.

I guess you could always stay on the Stoops train of mediocrity.

I liked Dooley a lot personally. He's a good man who cares about his staff and athletes. Unfortunately, like a lawyer, you don't want a good guy. You want a pit bull with nothing but winning as a priority.

No disrespect intended, kwame, OU was on that carousel for a while in the 90's, no stability, that means no recruits, that means inconsistency, and in the SEC, that means you are going to lose.


Alabama went through that in between Stallings and Saban. It happens. Tennessee just has to do it's best to make this hire a long-term solution.
 
2012-11-18 03:05:23 PM

Nabb1: basemetal: kwame: basemetal: That coaching carousel, how I do love to watch the schools ride it and wonder why they keep sucking.

I guess you could always stay on the Stoops train of mediocrity.

I liked Dooley a lot personally. He's a good man who cares about his staff and athletes. Unfortunately, like a lawyer, you don't want a good guy. You want a pit bull with nothing but winning as a priority.

No disrespect intended, kwame, OU was on that carousel for a while in the 90's, no stability, that means no recruits, that means inconsistency, and in the SEC, that means you are going to lose.

Alabama went through that in between Stallings and Saban. It happens. Tennessee just has to do it's best to make this hire a long-term solution.


At least they avoided the random "playing above our heads and winning a bunch of close games" season that Shula had in 2005. Better to get it over and done with than limp along for another year or two.
 
2012-11-18 03:07:05 PM
This man will win you tons of games, UT.

trackemtigers.com

He will also constantly flirt with the next big job, bang his assistants and leave your program in ashes.

Don't get fooled. Just let it happen to Auburn.
 
2012-11-18 03:23:07 PM
Ah, I was going to go with a headline

"Dooley Dudright will have to find another program to tie to the rails."

/or something like that
 
2012-11-18 03:25:25 PM
Hang down your head Derek Dooley, hang down your head and cry....

/obscure?
 
2012-11-18 03:26:57 PM
I live in the heart of Big Orange country and this is the lowest point I've ever seen TN football. When they got rid of Fulmer, we lost the next week to Wyoming but there was still a hope that we would get a "more modern" coach next season. Right now we've got nothing. I hope some of our decent offensive players stay. I figure we'll lose Patterson but I don't see Hunter or Bray going pro with the season they've been having. I've got tickets for the Kentucky game next week. I'll be there cheering on the players, I hope they continue to fight.

I hope we get a new coach that is stable and willing to stay. People around here all want Gruden but in my eyes he seems like someone who, like Kiffin, would pick up and leave when the next opportunity came along. I want the Vols to get an exciting coach but also someone who will stick around for a decade and really help rebuild the tradition and prestige of the team.

/Go Vols
//hoping for Charlie Strong
 
2012-11-18 03:36:17 PM
So, do they sell out that big stadium when they suck this hard? Too lazy to look up attendance figures myself.
 
2012-11-18 03:36:23 PM
they gave Dooley the option to finish out the season and coach the last game and he declined because "it would be a distraction for the players." For someone who always seemed to be a bad coach with good character, that makes me lose a lot of respect for him. He needs to own up to his time here and finish what he started
 
2012-11-18 03:39:53 PM

JohnAnnArbor: So, do they sell out that big stadium when they suck this hard? Too lazy to look up attendance figures myself.


we've been averaging 92k which is way down from average. the Florida game was the first hard sell out in a couple of years
 
2012-11-18 03:45:16 PM
My favorite Dooley story is when he decided to teach his players how to shower. This isn't from The Onion, I swear.
 
2012-11-18 03:48:46 PM

JohnAnnArbor: So, do they sell out that big stadium when they suck this hard? Too lazy to look up attendance figures myself.


Nope, it's more empty than it has been in a while. Only 60k or so for homecoming, nearly half empty.
 
2012-11-18 03:57:24 PM

ModernPrimitive01: //hoping for Charlie Strong


As a Louisville fan, I love that people want our coach.

But no, he's not going anywhere.
 
2012-11-18 04:06:51 PM

imapirate: ModernPrimitive01: //hoping for Charlie Strong

As a Louisville fan, I love that people want our coach.

But no, he's not going anywhere.


word on the street is Louisville is willing to give him truckloads of money to assure he stays and TN is hurting for cash so I don't think we'll get him. I think Gruden will turn us down as well.
 
2012-11-18 04:21:27 PM
Every time a large college program has a coaching vacancy, they ALL think Gruden is going to go there. No, he is not.
 
2012-11-18 04:44:20 PM

imapirate: ModernPrimitive01: //hoping for Charlie Strong

As a Louisville fan, I love that people want our coach.

But no, he's not going anywhere.


I'm hoping he sticks around Louisville for a few more years.

Then when Spurrier retires he comes back to coach the Gamecocks.
 
2012-11-18 04:46:56 PM

imapirate: ModernPrimitive01: //hoping for Charlie Strong

As a Louisville fan, I love that people want our coach.

But no, he's not going anywhere.


Why would he stay at Louisville? There will be no one left on the Big East and probably lose AQ status. Honest question.
 
2012-11-18 04:48:13 PM

babysealclubber: imapirate: ModernPrimitive01: //hoping for Charlie Strong

As a Louisville fan, I love that people want our coach.

But no, he's not going anywhere.

Why would he stay at Louisville? There will be no one left on the Big East and probably lose AQ status. Honest question.


That was a badly written post. I am sorry.
 
2012-11-18 04:50:20 PM
Welp, he can always go back to being a lawyer.
 
2012-11-18 04:54:26 PM
I think last night might have been the all-time low point for Vols fans. I was at a bar watching the game in Knoxville, and nobody was really reacting to it that much. Everyone was watching, but no one seemed surprised and/or moved by it. There was also a noticeable lack of orange attire in the room. I think morale is at an all time low.
 
2012-11-18 05:00:38 PM

basemetal: Every time a large college program has a coaching vacancy, they ALL think Gruden is going to go there. No, he is not.


As a Miami fan, THIS.

Don't let that fantasy get to your heads, Vols. It ain't gonna happen.

/is happy with what AL Golden's been doing with the program, considering the circumstances the past few years
 
2012-11-18 05:32:42 PM

ModernPrimitive01: word on the street is Louisville is willing to give him truckloads of money to assure he stays and TN is hurting for cash so I don't think we'll get him. I think Gruden will turn us down as well.


Our AD said just last week he's willing to make Strong the highest paid coach in America. Of course, that'll last 30 seconds until Saban's agent hears about it, but still. You guys wanting Chucky or Jay Gruden?

Ivandrago: I'm hoping he sticks around Louisville for a few more years.

Then when Spurrier retires he comes back to coach the Gamecocks.


Bingo. I graduated from there and know some people who know things, and I've got it on pretty good authority that South Carolina is the dream gig for Strong. FWIW, I got a phone call as I was leaving my hotel to head to the Orange Bowl in '06 and was told Petrino would be the Falcons coach in less than a week. FML, he was right.

babysealclubber: Why would he stay at Louisville? There will be no one left on the Big East and probably lose AQ status. Honest question.


Two reasons: 1. Cash, and Louisville is swimming in it. I know it sounds odd, but Tennessee, Auburn and Arkansas cannot outbid Louisville for his services. 2. Building a championship program. Say what you want about the Big East, but no matter the conference, if you're in the top 4 in 2014, you're in the playoff. Louisville is good this year, but next year we're looking for a transformative season. Plus it looks like the ACC will be replacing Maryland and the B12 may be forced to expand. If they had a championship game in the B12, K State wouldn't be out of the hunt for a title appearance. But playing only 12 games, now they're most likely out. Notre Dame gets a pass because of their monster of a schedule. With the B10, ACC and SEC all having 14 teams, it will likely force the hand of the B12 and Pac12. Wouldn't surprise me to see Boise, BYU, Air Force or Houston in the Pac12 in the near future.
 
2012-11-18 05:38:14 PM
While Dooley seems to be a great person, remember that he was essentially the last man available for any BCS program because Kiffin's bolted to USC happened in January after Carroll's departure to the Seahawks. Now with a head start on the search, UT can find someone adequate.
 
2012-11-18 05:40:40 PM
One more thing (and I'll drop it after that because I don't want to threadjack too badly). I said it when they made the hire and I'm standing by it - Strong will win a title at Louisville, and it will be in the first five years. This season's out, so that leaves the next two seasons. See that team that's 9-1 right now? Look at their roster. They're almost all freshmen and sophomores. The entire starting lineup will be losing Adrian Bushell. That's pretty much it. In short, they're going to get better and better and there's nothing ESPN and the BCS can do about it.
 
2012-11-18 05:42:27 PM
No offense taken, basemetal, I'm just upset today. It's been a long, tough season.

And I've worked personally with most of the defensive players, so anyone who claims those kids are anything other than a good bunch of guys who want to win every time they play is full of sh*t.
 
2012-11-18 05:43:45 PM

GAT_00: JohnAnnArbor: So, do they sell out that big stadium when they suck this hard? Too lazy to look up attendance figures myself.

Nope, it's more empty than it has been in a while. Only 60k or so for homecoming, nearly half empty.


Wow. Must be demoralizing for the team to see that.
 
2012-11-18 05:53:17 PM

kwame: No offense taken, basemetal, I'm just upset today. It's been a long, tough season.

And I've worked personally with most of the defensive players, so anyone who claims those kids are anything other than a good bunch of guys who want to win every time they play is full of sh*t.


I never blame the players, even when I was sitting in the stand with Col Schnellenberger or John Blake at the helm for OU (some very bleak times that taught me patience and humility), I only yelled louder to help them, but never blame them.

/it's still an amateur sport
//and they are still just kids
 
2012-11-18 05:58:30 PM

imapirate: ModernPrimitive01: //hoping for Charlie Strong

As a Louisville fan, I love that people want our coach.

But no, he's not going anywhere.


If any team from a major team offers him the same cash I am betting he leaves, mainly because he can make triple off endorsement deal at those schools than he could at UL.

Maybe UT can hire schianno when Tampa fires him
 
2012-11-18 05:59:43 PM

basemetal: kwame: No offense taken, basemetal, I'm just upset today. It's been a long, tough season.

And I've worked personally with most of the defensive players, so anyone who claims those kids are anything other than a good bunch of guys who want to win every time they play is full of sh*t.

I never blame the players, even when I was sitting in the stand with Col Schnellenberger or John Blake at the helm for OU (some very bleak times that taught me patience and humility), I only yelled louder to help them, but never blame them.

/it's still an amateur sport
//and they are still just kids


Agreed.
 
2012-11-18 06:06:39 PM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: basemetal: Every time a large college program has a coaching vacancy, they ALL think Gruden is going to go there. No, he is not.

As a Miami fan, THIS.

Don't let that fantasy get to your heads, Vols. It ain't gonna happen.

/is happy with what AL Golden's been doing with the program, considering the circumstances the past few years


Gruden is in Knoxville eating dinner as I type this. I doubt we're hiring him, but his wife's family is here and he came into town at a very specific time. He's listening to an offer.
 
2012-11-18 06:08:42 PM
That said, Petrino is in town tonight also. That makes me nauseous.
 
2012-11-18 06:10:42 PM

basemetal: I never blame the players, even when I was sitting in the stand with Col Schnellenberger or John Blake at the helm for OU (some very bleak times that taught me patience and humility), I only yelled louder to help them, but never blame them.

/it's still an amateur sport
//and they are still just kids


So much this. People tend to lose sight of this because of the nature of sports, I guess. But these are just kids. My favorite team's QB is 3 years older than my daughter. I can't imagine her getting booed by 60,000 fans or taking public scrutiny. These kids deal with a full schedule of classes, practice, workouts, film, games, etc, and that's not counting the normal stuff that comes with that age - they can't even go to a movie with friends without getting swamped by fans. And some have children of their own at this stage in their lives. There's a lot of pressure on these kids.
 
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