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(American Thinker)   "Perhaps most abusive to my moral sensibilities has been the near-fifty-year erosion of the family structure and our opening of the Pandora's box of human sexuality -- the latter bearing witness to the evolving social normalization of homosexuality"   (americanthinker.com) divider line 95
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2012-11-18 12:03:46 PM  
15 votes:
Kills me that Fark sends traffic to this horrific website almost daily.
2012-11-18 12:06:34 PM  
12 votes:
Humans were way more free sexually before religion came in and started repressing everything.
2012-11-18 01:33:43 PM  
10 votes:
"My bigotry is becoming less acceptable. Wahhhh!"
2012-11-18 12:26:08 PM  
10 votes:
[Control-F] "divorce"

Another "family structure" asshole with no explanation or solution for the almost 50% divorce rate in America.

Sanctity of (heterosexual) marriage, my ass...
2012-11-18 12:07:58 PM  
8 votes:
Most abusive in reality was the destruction of community and the evolution of the insular so-called "nuclear family". Much easier for Big Religion to control the education of kids if you bar them from contact with "others".

Not that the marketing of sexuality, especially female sexuality, hasn't done quite a lot of damage, but the allure of pornography and the invasion of pornography into all aspects of the entertainment industry and the marketing industry is enabled by the repression of the religion industry.

So lighten up on the "Presidential exile beside the dark rivers of Babylon" bullsh*t, get over your sordid self-important pious self and read a bit more widely than your fellow right-wingers.
2012-11-18 12:34:41 PM  
7 votes:
I have found the only people truly offended by homosexuals are repressed homosexuals, directing their inner hatred outward.

Come on out of the closet, you'll feel much better.
2012-11-18 07:15:00 PM  
6 votes:

GF named my left testicle thundercles: i know that this is a hate thread and that i will probably get yelled at but i think there is some truth to this article. families are becoming a thing of the past and that is a huge problem because families are what create human capital. what percentage of children are raise in single mother homes? 40% or something? and they have a huge chance of turn out to be worthless members of society. Its the kind of thing that, through entropy accumulated over generations, can bring down empires.


It's 25%. And families are being eroded by poverty and crime, brought on by a shrinking middle class, which is also brought to you by the party of the asshole writing the article.
2012-11-18 12:23:31 PM  
6 votes:
Times change. You can lead the change. You can follow the change, or you can get the hell out of the way of the change.

But if you stand in its path, you'll get run over.
2012-11-18 11:57:49 AM  
6 votes:
opening of the Pandora's box of human sexuality

Actually, that was opened thousands of years ago, then more recently shoved shut by the morally 'sensible'.
2012-11-18 11:52:41 AM  
6 votes:
American "Thinker" is abusive to my intelligence.
2012-11-18 06:12:21 PM  
5 votes:
Perhaps most abusive of my moral sensibilities is that the party that believes that we should deregulate business and industry seems to believe that we should instead regulate individual's bedrooms and bodies.
2012-11-18 06:00:30 PM  
5 votes:
Wow. It's sad that growing old is like that for him. But I guess that I feel differently because we won.
The change I fought for in the sixties has had a tough uphill climb (especially with the 80% of my generation who are assholes in the way), but the young people I see today make my heart swell with pride. Their indifference to the hateful, archaic obsessions that bedevil this wretched man, and their determination to take the world in newer, better directions give me a sense of peace and contentment - contentment that I am leaving this world in better hands.
It must really suck to be him.
2012-11-18 05:50:52 PM  
5 votes:
Serious question: What horrible things is society's acceptance supposed to pave the way for? Nationwide crime is at historic lows, people are more educated than ever (scary, considering the vocal idiots out there, but true), divorce rates are fairly stable (possibly even declining). The only number that seems to be going up is children out of wedlock, and it's hard to see how homosexual relationships effects that one that much. So what is the problem, exactly?
2012-11-18 03:57:04 PM  
5 votes:
If Fark doesn't link to Stormfront, it shouldn't link to this either.......but of course, no one has to read it. That's the flip side to the coin.

In any event, shoving gays back in the closet, women back into the kitchen, and blacks back into the cotton fields isn't going to magically bring back a time when straight white Christian men ruled the roost. Time marches on, with or without you.
2012-11-18 03:03:59 PM  
5 votes:
If this is the acceptance that folks love one another and are happy is abusive to your moral sensibilities, and the wholesale destruction of families and communities in the name of a War on Drugs is just fine, and the propping up of dictatorships in the name of political convenience is A-OK, I think that, perhaps, you lack imagination or anything resembling ethical or moral underpinnings...
2012-11-18 12:47:51 PM  
5 votes:
FTFA: "I am a relic of an age that is rapidly becoming a distant memory for some and an impossible fiction for most. And while I am only in my mid-fifties chronologically, culture-wise I am on the leeward side of a great divide..."

I'm in the same age range and I've managed to cope. Dude, maybe the problem is you.

/Now I have to go adopt a kitten to make up for clicking an American Stinker link.
2012-11-18 12:40:12 PM  
5 votes:
Which amendment is it again that gives us the right not to have our moral sensibilities abused?
2012-11-18 06:22:01 PM  
4 votes:

CPT Ethanolic: Kills me that Fark sends traffic to this horrific website almost daily.


I never click on the links. I just read the threads for the lulz cuz I know it's gonna be derp.
2012-11-18 05:59:56 PM  
4 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: I have found the only people truly offended by homosexuals are repressed homosexuals, directing their inner hatred outward.

Come on out of the closet, you'll feel much better.


And racists are secretly black? And sexists are secretly women?
No, the overwhelming majority of anti-gay bigots aren't actually gay; the handful of examples of bigots being brought out of the closet are far outnumbered by the rest of them; you think you're being a good liberal and insulting social conservatives when you say that they're closeted gay people, but what you're really doing is insulting gay people.
2012-11-18 12:17:35 PM  
4 votes:
Someone needs a blow job.

/Not it!
2012-11-18 09:22:01 PM  
3 votes:

Gyrfalcon: Well, obviously you missed my post up above; which addressed this from the other direction. The idea that divorce is up because of selfish women and changing gender roles is one way of looking at it. Another way is that there are only two ways to terminate a marriage, divorce and death, and formerly, there was only one: Death. So people trapped in a loveless marriage had to stick it out (what you call "normative" and "taking pride in expectations") because they had no socially acceptable options. I suspect the reason the divorce rate is and has been about 50% since divorce became possible is that about 50% of all RELATIONSHIPS have always been bad for one or both parties; and should never have gotten as far as marriage in the first place.

The idea that perhaps divorce is better for both people--male and female--is simply too complex for people stuck on the notion that Family Is All and more to the point, Nuclear Family Is All, that a Family must be a Father, a Mother and Two Kids or else it's somehow not "really" a Family. If things are "different" now, it's only because society allows divorce but refuses to acknowledge that society has also changed, that kids need financial AND emotional stability; while divorce laws insist on pitting parents against each other in terms of child support and visitation rights, as if the kids were nothing more than another possession to be argued over in court.

If people are worried about "families" they need to stop worrying about "divorce" and start thinking more about supporting children in general. Make sure the kids have a place to live, food to eat, schools to go to and friends to play with; and let mommy and daddy figure out what they're going to do without having to stress over all the rest of the crap.


Divorce saved my daughter from being raised to think that relationships are based on mutual dislike and distrust. I loved my wife, but we based a marriage on entirely different expectations, and we refused to acknowledge that, and we wound up despising one another. If we'd stayed together "for the sake of our children" our girl would have been raised up thinking that people despising one another was normal, and it would have scarred her far worse than the divorce did.

What kills me, in the debate on marriage equality, is the idea that other peoples' marriages have anything to do with the validity of your own. That what other churches, or ministries, or folks who don't share someone's faith or any at all, have to do with what goes on in anyone else's.

Your church doesn't want to perform same sex marriages? Doesn't want to grant divorces? That's well and good for you, but that doesn't give license to demand that from any OTHER faith. That's freedom of religion. Free to do as your faith compels you, and allow others to tend to their own. It is a sin in YOUR church? Fantastic. Go with that. Never mind what Unitarians, or Methodists or even Catholics do then.

Don't like it? Don't eat it. But never mind what other people have on their own plates. It worked when we were five, and it still works today...
2012-11-18 06:14:06 PM  
3 votes:
whatwouldjackdo.net
2012-11-18 06:07:11 PM  
3 votes:
Homosexuality is widespread among animals.

Some species are all hermaphrodites. Some species change sex depending on environment.

Female hyenas all have penises.

There is a species of worm (osedax) that lives off of whale bones on the ocean floor. The female worm grows "roots" into the bone to eat it. The male osedax worm is microscopic and lives in the blood of the female.

So you can take your "homosexuality isn't natural" argument and blow it out your ass. Nature is way more diverse than just homosexuality. Hell a dog will hump anything it can get ahold of. Cue the pic of the dog banging the large goose.

All that is natural, created by your God.

Let homosexuals be free and equal.
2012-11-18 03:00:57 PM  
3 votes:

themindiswatching: He sounds like he'd like Saudi Arabia a lot better.


Except for all the brown people, I'm sure he would.
2012-11-18 02:41:46 PM  
3 votes:
Yeah, there were a lot of people who thought considering black people more than 3/5ths of a person or later the mixing of the races were an assault on their moral sensibilities. Outside of some KKK or Neo-Nazi wingnuts, we're not very sympathetic to those views either now. Wah!
2012-11-18 11:59:49 AM  
3 votes:
www.bitlogic.com
2012-11-18 10:33:52 PM  
2 votes:
The biggest threat to traditional marriage has been the declining purchasing power of American wages forcing more households into two income situations.

Put that in your Republican pipes and smoke it.
2012-11-18 09:22:41 PM  
2 votes:
Thus, I am as some quaint heirloom that has philosophically and volitionally waded out from the river of popular culture, while residing in the  tenuous  and shallow  eddies of the far banks -- self-arresting my progress  and pausing more to gaze behind me  than afore.

No, dude... You're just an asshole.

Also, maybe American Potato's genius writers haven't realized this yet, but homosexual parenting doesn't lead to the "decline of the father". In the case of two gay men raising a child, it actually doubles the number of fathers. But even beyond the absolute numerical increase of fathers, gay dads challenge the pervasive norms that de-value fatherhood, by casting men in the primary parenting role and emphasizing the importance of men raising children.
2012-11-18 09:16:57 PM  
2 votes:
I'm no saying this to change anyone's mind. How you feel is how you feel and I'm not self-centered enough to think I could persuade anyone. That being said.......

A buddy of mine (who's gay, obviously, or this story would be even more pointless) was just married this past October. While at the ceremony, I didn't notice that two men were up there. I just noticed two people who love each other. This was a decision made by two adults of sound mind. (I also thought that I am never getting married, but that's beside the point).
I remember the day that New York passed the law legalizing gay marriage. My friend was the happiest I've ever seen him. I would never want to deny two people the right to marry. If that's what two consenting adults want to do, so be it. Stay out of other people's lives. If you are opposed to gay marriage, don't get gay married.
2012-11-18 09:12:03 PM  
2 votes:

rubi_con_man: North_Central_Positronics: [Control-F] "divorce"

Another "family structure" asshole with no explanation or solution for the almost 50% divorce rate in America.

Sanctity of (heterosexual) marriage, my ass...

The 50% divorce rate is easy to explain : We've created the idea that we are a nation of individuals MORE than a nation of families. We've created a system that supports divorce and doesn't support marriage. Adultery is no longer a crime. No-fault divorce is the law of the land. We now permit women to exit the marriage with their children and a lienhold on male income just for the act of having put their penises in them a long time ago.

Additionally, earning power has crashed, and the expectation of female labor in the workforce has put every possible match and every possible childbearing under the clock of two careers. Since we eliminated class consciousness and revile sex and gender roles, we now are all competing under the same normative goals : Make the most money and have the most personal liberty - wherein husband and wife are set against each other.

I could go on, but ... there you go. And yes, Gay Marriage becomes functionally equivalent under these circumstances. When marriages relied on two discrete, gendered roles that operated orthoganally in the fabric of a community, with the masculine dominant breadwinner and the feminine submissive housekeeper, Social institutions could afford each liberty within their individual domains while respecting the other. Children could be raised in normative environments where they could learn how to be mature, respectful adults.

... that is , if you believe that this worked for everyone - or even a majority. There are reasons to suspect that in fact it never really worked that well for anyone, but its sole comfort was that expectations were clear, and you could strive to meet or surpass them and take pride in doing so.


Well, obviously you missed my post up above; which addressed this from the other direction. The idea that divorce is up because of selfish women and changing gender roles is one way of looking at it. Another way is that there are only two ways to terminate a marriage, divorce and death, and formerly, there was only one: Death. So people trapped in a loveless marriage had to stick it out (what you call "normative" and "taking pride in expectations") because they had no socially acceptable options. I suspect the reason the divorce rate is and has been about 50% since divorce became possible is that about 50% of all RELATIONSHIPS have always been bad for one or both parties; and should never have gotten as far as marriage in the first place.

The idea that perhaps divorce is better for both people--male and female--is simply too complex for people stuck on the notion that Family Is All and more to the point, Nuclear Family Is All, that a Family must be a Father, a Mother and Two Kids or else it's somehow not "really" a Family. If things are "different" now, it's only because society allows divorce but refuses to acknowledge that society has also changed, that kids need financial AND emotional stability; while divorce laws insist on pitting parents against each other in terms of child support and visitation rights, as if the kids were nothing more than another possession to be argued over in court.

If people are worried about "families" they need to stop worrying about "divorce" and start thinking more about supporting children in general. Make sure the kids have a place to live, food to eat, schools to go to and friends to play with; and let mommy and daddy figure out what they're going to do without having to stress over all the rest of the crap.
2012-11-18 08:27:45 PM  
2 votes:

jso2897: Wow. It's sad that growing old is like that for him. But I guess that I feel differently because we won.
The change I fought for in the sixties has had a tough uphill climb (especially with the 80% of my generation who are assholes in the way), but the young people I see today make my heart swell with pride. Their indifference to the hateful, archaic obsessions that bedevil this wretched man, and their determination to take the world in newer, better directions give me a sense of peace and contentment - contentment that I am leaving this world in better hands.
It must really suck to be him.


Folks like you were the role models I was given during my childhood. Gotta say, that's probably some of the best role models humankind has sprung up. :)
2012-11-18 07:29:13 PM  
2 votes:

GF named my left testicle thundercles: i know that this is a hate thread and that i will probably get yelled at but i think there is some truth to this article. families are becoming a thing of the past and that is a huge problem because families are what create human capital. what percentage of children are raise in single mother homes? 40% or something? and they have a huge chance of turn out to be worthless members of society. Its the kind of thing that, through entropy accumulated over generations, can bring down empires.


"Worthless members of society"? By what standard? Crime is at a 40 year low in this country - so apparently, the "worthless people" these dreaded single parent families are turning out are expressing their "worthlessness" in less criminal ways than their more "worthy" predecessors from earlier generations.
I'm thinking that before you start making sweeping generalizations about who is and isn't "worthless', that you consult the teaching of the popular middle eastern prophet, Jesus of Nazareth. He had some pretty choice words for the sort of asshole who sets himself up as a judge of the "worth" of his fellwe human beings.
2012-11-18 06:52:54 PM  
2 votes:
Here is the thing that I do not get about the whole "make them get back in the closet" section of homophobic retards...do they honestly think there was anything healthy or safe about the tendency before homosexuality became more open, to marry a beard and have gay relations on the downlow, exposing a partner and possibly even offspring to HIV? How could that have possibly been more the more "moral" time in American history? Besides anytime I see a self-righteous moralist preacher talking about how evil the gays are, my knee jerk reaction is "closet case who will be found blowing a stranger in a public restroom." When are we going to get the next wave of Republican moralist morons caught tapping their toes to prove me right? The elections are over...there has to be one or two "secret" partners who did not get flowers on their birthday and are ready to tell all!
2012-11-18 06:48:01 PM  
2 votes:

Hobodeluxe: CPT Ethanolic: Kills me that Fark sends traffic to this horrific website almost daily.

people actually click those links?


As I said before... if you see links from the following sites:

-American Thinker
-NRO
-Breitbart
-Washington Times
-The Daily Caller
-FoxNews
-FoxNation
-WorldNewsDaily
-NewsMax
-Newsbusters
-DrudgeReport
-TownHall
-Investors.com

... and if you think you'll be the Weenerser, please, click the link, copypasta the derp in the thread, and spare us all as well as spare them from ad revenue.
2012-11-18 06:34:03 PM  
2 votes:

Atillathepun: "Perhaps most abusive to my moral sensibilities has been the near-fifty-year erosion of the family structure and our opening of the Pandora's box of human sexuality -- the latter bearing witness to the evolving social normalization of miscegenation"


Scratch off the thin layer of shiny paint and that might not be too far from what he actually believes. A casual stroll through the comment section of any major self-described conservative news site will serve to show that racism and homophobia tend to run in the same package. WND, Fox, I'm looking at you here.
2012-11-18 06:01:56 PM  
2 votes:
Suck it you pathetic bigots. The world is changing and you can't do shiat to stop it. At best you can slow it down, and be exposed for the horrible human beings you are in the process.
2012-11-18 05:59:24 PM  
2 votes:

St_Francis_P: MrBallou: FTFA: "I am a relic of an age that is rapidly becoming a distant memory for some and an impossible fiction for most. And while I am only in my mid-fifties chronologically, culture-wise I am on the leeward side of a great divide..."

I'm in the same age range and I've managed to cope. Dude, maybe the problem is you.

/Now I have to go adopt a kitten to make up for clicking an American Stinker link.

Some people shape the times they live in, but time simply passes by the others. Guess which category American Thinker is in.


img32.imageshack.us
2012-11-18 05:57:09 PM  
2 votes:
1.bp.blogspot.com
www.biography.com
upload.wikimedia.org
www.britishbattles.com

These guys opened the Pandora's box of normalized homosexuality a hell of a lot longer than 50 years ago.
2012-11-18 05:56:11 PM  
2 votes:
Conservative lamenting the acceptance of gays? He's gay. We've seen this movie way too many times. He's jealous that society decided to change the rules after he lost the chance to come out and enjoy himself as a gay man.

/still not going to click an American Derper link
2012-11-18 04:48:01 PM  
2 votes:
Ooh, looks like someone at AT bought themselves a shiny new Thesaurus.

FTA: The Body Cult has, I suppose, always been present in American culture to some degree, but our current infatuation with it is an increasingly disturbing aspect of American life. While health is a net good, the fetish that attends it is more indicative of the latent therapeutic narcissism and the paper-thin dogma of eternal youth: a belief that the finite commodity of life can be mastered through technology and that through the relentless procedures of scalpel and supplements, man can beat God at his own game.

So America's Body Cult problem is not obesity on a scale that makes the country the butt of Fat American jokes around the globe but the fact that a few vainglorious types avail themselves of botox and plastic surgery?

Truly your intellect is dizzying.

As we begin anew another four years of Presidential exile beside the dark rivers of Babylon, let us not cease our yearning for the beautiful cause that we hold so deeply within our hearts.

Reality check time, chucklef*ck.

Hate based on ignorance is not now and never will be a "beautiful cause"/

Baal

The Left do not worship Baal, but the Right sure do worship them some Mammon.

See and acknowledge this truth or live in darkness.

I get a sense while reading this that this guy is his own biggest fan of his flowery, overly ornate, laughably absurd, logically invalid prose.
2012-11-18 04:47:23 PM  
2 votes:

Coco LaFemme: If Fark doesn't link to Stormfront, it shouldn't link to this either.......but of course, no one has to read it. That's the flip side to the coin.

In any event, shoving gays back in the closet, women back into the kitchen, and blacks back into the cotton fields isn't going to magically bring back a time when straight white Christian men ruled the roost. Time marches on, with or without you.


Well, I do see that as I post this, only 36 clicks have been sent American Potato's way.

One really good think Fark did was automatically put the website's logo up if it's available. Before, there were a lot of links like this hidden under "Some Guy."
2012-11-18 03:43:08 PM  
2 votes:

SphericalTime: themindiswatching: He sounds like he'd like Saudi Arabia a lot better.

Except for all the brown people, I'm sure he would.


I got a sawbuck here that says you can find this dude advocating laws to ban "Sharia law".
2012-11-18 03:40:57 PM  
2 votes:
Seriously. They should use this stuff to anesthetize people before surgery. The justification of hatred of those that are "different" than the conservative social norm, and the continued persecution of them under the guise of "morality" is sickening and mind numbing.

static.fimfiction.net
2012-11-18 02:37:24 PM  
2 votes:
OK, time for the obligatory American Thinker icon:

farm4.static.flickr.com
2012-11-18 01:45:49 PM  
2 votes:

SilentStrider: Times change. You can lead the change. You can follow the change, or you can get the hell out of the way of the change. But if you stand in its path, you'll get run over.


I initially read that as "You can lead the charge. You can follow the charge, or you can get the hell out of the way of the charge."

Marcus Aurelius: I have found the only people truly offended by homosexuals are repressed homosexuals, directing their inner hatred outward.


There's the old joke that "The war between the sexes will never be won, because it's so much fun fraternizing with the enemy." I wonder if this might illuminate why the Religious Right have so much trouble winning the war against homosexuality.
2012-11-18 12:22:06 PM  
2 votes:
Every time I read a quote from AT the word "lugubrious" echoes in my mind.
2012-11-19 10:54:57 AM  
1 votes:
For those of you who are Confederacy of Dunces fans, the original article sounds exactly like a fulmination directly from one of Ignatius J Reilly's Big Chief pads, inscribed by the Ticonderoga #2 of Righteousness.

These people just need to die out. It will take some time, but it's inevitable.

And to the poster who says "family is the creator of human capital": gee, if only we could think of a counterexample -- someone who has succeeded despite not being brought up in a nuclear family. Perhaps someone who has had some success in politics....

Gee, no one comes to mind.
2012-11-19 08:02:50 AM  
1 votes:

Article summary:

Old man yelling
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2012-11-19 06:19:08 AM  
1 votes:

randomjsa: It's a pity when a good point is so muddled up with stupid.

The good point being that the erosion of family structure and the replacement of one parent with the government has been a bad thing.

Equality for homosexuals has nothing to do with any of it however. Don't get confused just because a large number of people want something good, like equality for homosexuals, while at the same time wanting something bad, like massive numbers of people dependent on the federal government. These two things are not related.


Maybe. But I'm curious with how that jibes with crime being at a 70 year low, drug abuse, smoking, and alcoholism declining, and health and life expectancy improving. If all these changes are so bad, why are things getting better by objective measurements? I mean, I'm aware that facts have a liberal bias, but at some point you have to take them into account.
2012-11-19 12:36:57 AM  
1 votes:
i.imgur.com
2012-11-18 10:20:29 PM  
1 votes:

Hunter_Worthington: quatchi: Hunter_Worthington: If the homosexuals weren't agitating for "rights" (they really mean privileges, but that's another topic) they have no business possessing, there wouldn't be any problems.

Oh I get it. You're confusing privileges aka "special rights" with equal rights.

Bet you feel pretty silly now, eh?

*blink*

You have it completely backwards, but yes, that's the problem.


OR PERHAPS THE PROBLEM IS IT"S OWN PROBLEM

The Taste of Banzo's Sword

Matajuro Yagyu was the son of a famous swordsman. His father, believing that his son's work was too mediocre to anticipate mastership, disowned him.

So Matajuro went to Mount Futara and there found the famous swordsman Banzo. But Banzo confirmed the father's judgment. "You wish to learn swordsmanship under my guidance?" asked Banzo. "You cannot fulfill the requirements."

"But if I work hard, how many years will it take me to become a master?" persisted the youth.

"The rest of your life," replied Banzo.

"I cannot wait that long," explained Matajuro. "I am willing to pass through any hardship if only you will teach me. If I become your devoted servant, how long might it be?"

"Oh, maybe ten years," Banzo relented.

"My father is getting old, and soon I must take care of him," continued Matajuro. "If I work far more intensively, how long would it take me?"

"Oh, maybe thirty years," said Banzo.

"Why is that?" asked Matajuro. "First you say ten and now thirty years. I will undergo any hardship to master this art in the shortest time!"

"Well," said Banzo, "in that case you will have to remain with me for seventy years. A man in such a hurry as you are to get results seldom learns quickly."

"Very well," declared the youth, understanding at last that he was being rebuked for impatience, "I agree."

Matajuro was told never to speak of fencing and never to touch a sword. He cooked for his master, washed the dishes, made his bed, cleaned the yard, cared for the garden, all without a word of swordsmanship.

Three years passed. Still Matajuro labored on. Thinking of his future, he was sad. He had not even begun to learn the art to which he had devoted his life.

But one day Banzo crept up behind him and gave him a terrific blow with a wooden sword.

The following day, when Matajuro was cooking rice, Banzo again sprang upon him unexpectedly.

After that, day and night, Matajuro had to defend himself from unexpected thrusts. Not a moment passed in any day that he did not have to think of the taste of Banzo's sword.

He learned so rapidly he brought smiles to the face of his master. Matajuro became the greatest swordsman in the land.
2012-11-18 10:18:39 PM  
1 votes:

Hunter_Worthington: RyogaM: So, how do you get these homosexuals to learn their place?

Well, we could start by stop pretending their "marriages" are valid. After that, I think a few "health and welfare" inspections of homosexual clubs on suspicions of drug use and "immoral activities" and other areas where they congregate should make their lives uncomfortable. That would be a good start.

Anything to add?



And you think that will get the homosexuals to quiet down and stop demanding their rights? Pretending that the relationships they cultivate are not valid, and harassing them in public places and private clubs? That will do it, you think? They'll just stop being openly gay and go back in the closet? You do realize you are speaking about grown men and women, fellow Americans and tax payers you are suggesting we should harass, right?

No, whatever. I suggest there is nothing stopping you right now from putting your ingenious plan into action. Go an head on down to the nearest gay bar, or club or whatever, and start letting them know that you personally view their relationships, whether they are married legally or not, as invalid. Bring some friends, and try to enlist the police in finding all that illicit activity. Start your crusade, enlist the Westboro Baptists folks and try to harass all those gays into knowing their place, that you have decided for them.  I'll watch.
2012-11-18 10:16:51 PM  
1 votes:

Hunter_Worthington: quatchi: Hunter_Worthington: If the homosexuals weren't agitating for "rights" (they really mean privileges, but that's another topic) they have no business possessing, there wouldn't be any problems.

Oh I get it. You're confusing privileges aka "special rights" with equal rights.

Bet you feel pretty silly now, eh?

*blink*

You have it completely backwards, but yes, that's the problem.


No, the problem is you're a bigoted piece of shiat, with a worldview that was outdated decades ago. That, or a retard who gets his kicks from annoying people on the internet.
2012-11-18 09:59:01 PM  
1 votes:
My ma used to brag about how I could tell someone to go to Hell and that person would need to read the dictionary to figure out that I'd told them where to go. Now, she was of course overstating it, and she never had the class to tell me this to my face, but, like, whatever. That was her opinion, man.

I still have a paperback thesaurus I bought when I was in high school. Damned nifty thing. Everyone should have one, plus The Elements of Style, by Strunk & White.

I am not sure if I really want to click on the farticle link, but from what quotes I've read in the thread it seems this overclocked howler monkey has simultaneously jackhammered both a 1913 Oxford Dictionary [remember those giant 40-pound hardbound behemoths??] and a large hardback thesaurus so far up its ass that it's tasting bookbinder's glue in the back of its throat.
2012-11-18 09:34:39 PM  
1 votes:

Hunter_Worthington: ...the homosexual problem...


[quizzicaldog]

The problem isn't homosexuals.

It's the people who have a problem with them that are the problem.

/See: Your mirror.
2012-11-18 09:31:23 PM  
1 votes:
"I do not mean to represent myself as some Luddite antiquarian"

Then you should have stopped writing here.


"...which has the corrupting effect of sandblasting culture free of its philosophical and moral diversity"

You are truly advocating for less philosophical and moral diversity before and after this point. Why is this here?


"The federal government, in its relentless attempts to equalize the unequal"

THE HORROR!


"the absent or defective image of the father has regressed the ideal of the male into a vestigial appendage that can be supplemented by the State or terminally excised by the interchangeable arrangement of two men or two women [in marriage]"

The absent or defective image of the father has regressed the ideal of the male to the point of being terminally excised by the arrangement of two men in marriage.

The broken image of the father has regressed the ideal of the "man" to the point it can be killed by two men getting married.

The image of fatherhood has withered to the point that manliness itself can be killed by two men getting married.

Two men getting married kills fatherhood and, consequently, manliness.

Gays kill men like me. Also, America.
2012-11-18 09:25:43 PM  
1 votes:
As some married to someone of another race, I'm glad to know that assholes like this are dying out, quickly.
2012-11-18 09:03:55 PM  
1 votes:
Perhaps most abusive to my moral sensibilities has been the near-fifty-year erosion of the segregational structure and our opening of the Pandora's box of racial equality -- the latter bearing witness to the evolving social normalization of miscegenation. The federal government, in its relentless attempts to equalize the unequal, has waged a long march in thoroughly democratizing the various races. That it has succeeded only in reaping waves of dependence and dysfunction is beyond credulity to citizens raised in the years prior to the Great Society. Additionally, the absent or defective image of the white leader has regressed the ideal of white leadership into a vestigial appendage that can be supplemented by the State or terminally excised by the interchangeable arrangement of negro rule or other lesser races living in a government-sanctioned state of authority. Indeed, in a longitudinal study of selected cities, two negro-run towns were portrayed as the best candidates to emulate. The source of this study? The Journal of Racial Inegration.

This journey into personal antiquity has taught me that the values and beliefs I hold more dearly than gold are not of themselves dusty and timeworn -- ready for the ashcan of history. In fact, I never cease to be amazed at all manner of people, young and old, who I would have never suspected hold firm and cherish these Old Ways and have not bent their knee to the so-called civil rights movement.
2012-11-18 08:51:19 PM  
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North_Central_Positronics: [Control-F] "divorce"

Another "family structure" asshole with no explanation or solution for the almost 50% divorce rate in America.

Sanctity of (heterosexual) marriage, my ass...


The 50% divorce rate is easy to explain : We've created the idea that we are a nation of individuals MORE than a nation of families. We've created a system that supports divorce and doesn't support marriage. Adultery is no longer a crime. No-fault divorce is the law of the land. We now permit women to exit the marriage with their children and a lienhold on male income just for the act of having put their penises in them a long time ago.

Additionally, earning power has crashed, and the expectation of female labor in the workforce has put every possible match and every possible childbearing under the clock of two careers. Since we eliminated class consciousness and revile sex and gender roles, we now are all competing under the same normative goals : Make the most money and have the most personal liberty - wherein husband and wife are set against each other.

I could go on, but ... there you go. And yes, Gay Marriage becomes functionally equivalent under these circumstances. When marriages relied on two discrete, gendered roles that operated orthoganally in the fabric of a community, with the masculine dominant breadwinner and the feminine submissive housekeeper, Social institutions could afford each liberty within their individual domains while respecting the other. Children could be raised in normative environments where they could learn how to be mature, respectful adults.

... that is , if you believe that this worked for everyone - or even a majority. There are reasons to suspect that in fact it never really worked that well for anyone, but its sole comfort was that expectations were clear, and you could strive to meet or surpass them and take pride in doing so.
2012-11-18 08:32:40 PM  
1 votes:
The question is why should anyone else give a fark about your 'Moral Sensibilities'? Who are you to define anyone else's Morality? You live to your own and leave the rest of us alone.
2012-11-18 08:26:22 PM  
1 votes:

Farker Soze: Nah. Gun control and gay control aren't about guns or gays, they're about control. Just two sets of people trying to impose their will because guns/gays are icky.


Remember when all those people in Aurora died because a gay couple walked into a theater?

Me either.
2012-11-18 08:21:22 PM  
1 votes:

optional: clkeagle: [oceanisdeep.files.wordpress.com image 478x360] 

Funny how it's always the fat, old, white guys who are most resistant to change...

I'm pretty sure the guy on the right panel is supposed to be an old, fat, black guy.

So it's old, fat guys who are resistant to change; race has nothing to do with it.


I think it's relevant to the cartoon. Black people opposing gay marriage after interracial marriage was opposed by whites provides the irony.
2012-11-18 08:17:22 PM  
1 votes:

North_Central_Positronics: [Control-F] "divorce"

Another "family structure" asshole with no explanation or solution for the almost 50% divorce rate in America.

Sanctity of (heterosexual) marriage, my ass...


Well that is not the fault of everyone. The religious right keep getting divorced at such a high rate they run up the percentage for everyone else.
2012-11-18 07:55:59 PM  
1 votes:
Our ways are old, but they are true. Better to fight and acquit ourselves with courage, even in defeat, than acquiesce those blood-bought principles and pass into the horizon, like a drifting constellation in the night sky.

No one is trying to make you acquiesce your principles you self-important bigot. You just can use your principles to infringe on other people's right to live, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
2012-11-18 07:43:58 PM  
1 votes:
You think straight men would be fine with gay men, since that means less competition for women. And most of them have no problem with lesbians, which makes them supreme hypocrites.

How about you all grow up in regards to sexuality and equality, stop crying about your stupid backwards religion, and live your own lives instead of trying to control everyone else's?
2012-11-18 07:39:47 PM  
1 votes:
Yes, because we should go back to ostracizing, jailing, and killing gays. Farking morans.

The bottom line is that we live in a constitutionally-limited republic. Our Constitution basically says we're all free and equal. What that means to social conservatards is that you may not approve of someone's life choices but so long as those choices don't affect you personally, it's none of your goddamn business.
2012-11-18 07:38:17 PM  
1 votes:

Hunter_Worthington: Wayne 985: As a gay man, I would like to apologize. Like Pandora, I foolishly opened that proverbial box by choosing to be gay and unleashed my evil upon the world. I didn't know that my being different and asking to be treated as an equal would create such "dependence and dysfunction" as Mr. Fairman states. Worse, I have apparently "bent my knee to Baal", which I can only assume is some Satanic sex euphemism.

Please, forgive me. I'll return to the closet and marry a woman. We'll both pretend to be happy and have the requisite 2.5 children who will in no way be miserable in what is objectively the ideal home.

If only I had known before. If only I had known.

Well, if you're really sorry, this guy can help you out.


And you know it must work, I mean, he's married to a woman and everything.
2012-11-18 07:35:32 PM  
1 votes:

WorldCitizen: GF named my left testicle thundercles: i know that this is a hate thread and that i will probably get yelled at but i think there is some truth to this article. families are becoming a thing of the past and that is a huge problem because families are what create human capital. what percentage of children are raise in single mother homes? 40% or something? and they have a huge chance of turn out to be worthless members of society. Its the kind of thing that, through entropy accumulated over generations, can bring down empires.

So be against gay marriage that creates...families?


I don't think the poster was arguing anything about gays or their insipid plot to stabilize families by adopting children and providing them with a wonderful, nay, fabulous life, I think the poster just wanted to rail about the decay of society without actually looking at the economic and political factors causing it, which is a pretty worthless (his term) way of pointing out the painfully obvious without advancing the discussion. Kudos!
2012-11-18 07:32:35 PM  
1 votes:

GF named my left testicle thundercles: i know that this is a hate thread and that i will probably get yelled at but i think there is some truth to this article. families are becoming a thing of the past and that is a huge problem because families are what create human capital. what percentage of children are raise in single mother homes? 40% or something? and they have a huge chance of turn out to be worthless members of society. Its the kind of thing that, through entropy accumulated over generations, can bring down empires.


So be against gay marriage that creates...families?
2012-11-18 07:27:49 PM  
1 votes:
As a gay man, I would like to apologize. Like Pandora, I foolishly opened that proverbial box by choosing to be gay and unleashed my evil upon the world. I didn't know that my being different and asking to be treated as an equal would create such "dependence and dysfunction" as Mr. Fairman states. Worse, I have apparently "bent my knee to Baal", which I can only assume is some Satanic sex euphemism.

Please, forgive me. I'll return to the closet and marry a woman. We'll both pretend to be happy and have the requisite 2.5 children who will in no way be miserable in what is objectively the ideal home.

If only I had known before. If only I had known. 
2012-11-18 06:51:53 PM  
1 votes:

coeyagi: Hobodeluxe: CPT Ethanolic: Kills me that Fark sends traffic to this horrific website almost daily.

people actually click those links?

As I said before... if you see links from the following sites:

-American Thinker
-NRO
-Breitbart
-Washington Times
-The Daily Caller
-FoxNews
-FoxNation
-WorldNewsDaily
-NewsMax
-Newsbusters
-DrudgeReport
-TownHall
-Investors.com

... and if you think you'll be the Weenerser, please, click the link, copypasta the derp in the thread, and spare us all as well as spare them from ad revenue.


These sites are the reason I pretty much visit Reddit from now on. These aren't rational opinion sites. I'll read those. These are a product of the astroturf media created by the PR machine created by the wealthy to further their narrative.

Why would I embarrass myself by falling for it?
2012-11-18 06:43:30 PM  
1 votes:

r1chard3: i don't know if I'll be able to sleep tonight worrying about that guys abused moral sensibilities.


I can't sleep with the idea of weiners in butts. But not girl butts. Guy butts.
2012-11-18 06:42:01 PM  
1 votes:
i don't know if I'll be able to sleep tonight worrying about that guys abused moral sensibilities.
2012-11-18 06:31:04 PM  
1 votes:

Dimensio: nmrsnr: Serious question: What horrible things is society's acceptance supposed to pave the way for? Nationwide crime is at historic lows, people are more educated than ever (scary, considering the vocal idiots out there, but true), divorce rates are fairly stable (possibly even declining). The only number that seems to be going up is children out of wedlock, and it's hard to see how homosexual relationships effects that one that much. So what is the problem, exactly?

As homosexuality is increasingly tolerated, bigots who irrationlly predict the downfall of human civilization are more readily exposed as dishonest and not worthy of trust. Many of these bigots are in positions of authority and derive their income from the trust of members of the public. As they are exposed as dishonest, due to their claims regarding homosexuality being demonstrably falsified, their income and their very livelihoods are threatened. Their desperate and dishonest attacks against homosexuals have become an attempt to retain sufficient relevance to remain solvent.

A similar phenomenon may observed in leaders of gun control advocacy groups.


Poor comparison,. Gun grabbers are deluded people who mean well, but fail to grasp the paradox of unintended consequences and the folly of prohibition. Their desire for a safe and peaceful world is rational - the way they think they can achieve it is not.
2012-11-18 06:25:54 PM  
1 votes:

Notabunny: Mark 11:12-14 "And on the morrow, when they were come from Bethany, he was hungry: And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not yet. And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever. And his disciples heard it."


Man, Jesus sounds like a total prick.

Jesus: "I'm hungry!"
Disciple: "Uh ... alright Jesus. I guess we can stop and get something to eat. I don't suppose you could maybe Miracle-up some fish or some--"
Jesus: "BAM! Look over there! A fig tree! I lurrrrrve figs, yo! Let's go!"
Disciple: "Yeah, uh Jesus? This isn't the season for fig--"
Jesus: "What do you mean this isn't the season for figs? It's got leaves, doesn't it? Jackass. C'mon! I got a hankering for fiiiiiiiiiiigs!"
Disciples: "right."
[Disciples hurry after Jesus as he runs full-tilt into the weeds to the fig tree.]
Jesus: "AW! WHAT THE FARK! NO FIGS???!!?!?"
Disciple: "Yeah, this is what I was talk--"
Jesus: "THAT'S IT! NEW RULE:

No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever.


YOU GOT ME, GUYS??!?!?"
Disciples: "...right."
2012-11-18 06:22:29 PM  
1 votes:

nmrsnr: Serious question: What horrible things is society's acceptance supposed to pave the way for? Nationwide crime is at historic lows, people are more educated than ever (scary, considering the vocal idiots out there, but true), divorce rates are fairly stable (possibly even declining). The only number that seems to be going up is children out of wedlock, and it's hard to see how homosexual relationships effects that one that much. So what is the problem, exactly?


As homosexuality is increasingly tolerated, bigots who irrationlly predict the downfall of human civilization are more readily exposed as dishonest and not worthy of trust. Many of these bigots are in positions of authority and derive their income from the trust of members of the public. As they are exposed as dishonest, due to their claims regarding homosexuality being demonstrably falsified, their income and their very livelihoods are threatened. Their desperate and dishonest attacks against homosexuals have become an attempt to retain sufficient relevance to remain solvent.

A similar phenomenon may observed in leaders of gun control advocacy groups.
2012-11-18 06:21:45 PM  
1 votes:
Maybe he should be blaming the Greeks, they invented democracy AND buttsex. Is there no end to their awesomeness?
2012-11-18 06:18:52 PM  
1 votes:

Kittypie070: [haters.jpg]


God hates figs

img.photobucket.com

Mark 11:12-14 "And on the morrow, when they were come from Bethany, he was hungry: And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not yet. And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever. And his disciples heard it."
2012-11-18 06:14:07 PM  
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nmrsnr: Corvus: To the right gays are icky and they don't like most people are not homophobes anymore.

born_yesterday: Acceptance of homosexuality, both in a societal and legal sense, strips them of yet another group they could look down on or oppress. Stage 2 is blaming this acceptance for whatever natural disasters happen to coincide chronologically.

While this might be what's actually going on, they don't say "I don't like the homogays because I'm an easily frightened bigot who needs to feel superior to somebody dammit." They make the claim that it "undermines the social fabric of society." What I'm curious about is, in what way? What do they *imagine* the effects are, or do they just have a nebulous fear that it will cause some undefined badness?


Right wing retards virtually never have anything to back up their ridiculous nonsense, be it social policy, economics, foreign policy, whatever. They live in an echo chamber bubble universe, where if they lie enough it becomes true, with or without facts to back it up. Why do you expect this to be any different?
2012-11-18 06:10:19 PM  
1 votes:
I don't like peanut butter, I hate the smell - I'd never dream of telling other people not to eat it.
2012-11-18 06:00:59 PM  
1 votes:
i46.tinypic.com
2012-11-18 05:58:53 PM  
1 votes:

clkeagle: ToxicMunkee: Humans were way more free sexually before religion came in and started repressing everything.

No kidding. Ancient Romans would ask WTF is wrong with us.


I blame the War on Saturnalia.
2012-11-18 05:55:23 PM  
1 votes:

ToxicMunkee: Humans were way more free sexually before religion came in and started repressing everything.


No kidding. Ancient Romans would ask WTF is wrong with us.

nmrsnr: The only number that seems to be going up is children out of wedlock, and it's hard to see how homosexual relationships effects that one that much.


It's funny, the only factors that seem to be tied to children being born out of wedlock are the availability of contraception/abortion and the comprehensiveness of sexual education in public schools. It sure is amazing how those things could possibly have such an effect...
2012-11-18 05:54:55 PM  
1 votes:
www.austinchronicle.com

www.mnn.com
cache.gawker.com
2012-11-18 05:50:02 PM  
1 votes:

dahmers love zombie: [i.imgur.com image 500x335]


But I like eating pussy!
2012-11-18 05:49:19 PM  
1 votes:
New rule: Every time some American thinker idiot gets their drivel linked on Fark, all TotalFarkers get to punch him in the face.
2012-11-18 05:46:50 PM  
1 votes:
It's sort of cute that our Beamish Boy thinks that just today we're seeing anything new in human sexuality...
2012-11-18 04:53:11 PM  
1 votes:
Pandora Boxx is my favorite drag queen.

newnownext.mtvnimages.com
2012-11-18 04:28:09 PM  
1 votes:
i.imgur.com
2012-11-18 03:55:37 PM  
1 votes:
Jesus had two dads, one of which should have a seat over there.
2012-11-18 02:51:35 PM  
1 votes:
He sounds like he'd like Saudi Arabia a lot better.
2012-11-18 02:39:29 PM  
1 votes:
They really shouldn't call themselves "American Thinker" if all their ideas are stupid.
2012-11-18 02:34:32 PM  
1 votes:

djkutch: What offends me is you can't expect a bride to come with a decent dowry anymore. Why bother to have more than one wife?


There's no way I'd settle for anything less than a ten-cow woman.
2012-11-18 02:10:43 PM  
1 votes:
What offends me is you can't expect a bride to come with a decent dowry anymore. Why bother to have more than one wife?
2012-11-18 12:50:58 PM  
1 votes:

MrBallou: FTFA: "I am a relic of an age that is rapidly becoming a distant memory for some and an impossible fiction for most. And while I am only in my mid-fifties chronologically, culture-wise I am on the leeward side of a great divide..."

I'm in the same age range and I've managed to cope. Dude, maybe the problem is you.

/Now I have to go adopt a kitten to make up for clicking an American Stinker link.


Some people shape the times they live in, but time simply passes by the others. Guess which category American Thinker is in.
 
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