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(American Thinker)   "Perhaps most abusive to my moral sensibilities has been the near-fifty-year erosion of the family structure and our opening of the Pandora's box of human sexuality -- the latter bearing witness to the evolving social normalization of homosexuality"   (americanthinker.com) divider line 425
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2012-11-18 08:41:23 PM

GF named my left testicle thundercles: i know that this is a hate thread and that i will probably get yelled at but i think there is some truth to this article. families are becoming a thing of the past and that is a huge problem because families are what create human capital. what percentage of children are raise in single mother homes? 40% or something? and they have a huge chance of turn out to be worthless members of society. Its the kind of thing that, through entropy accumulated over generations, can bring down empires.


Okay, first of all, you're making claims without any support. 40%? "Huge chance" to be "worthless?" What you're doing is "truthiness" at it's worst.

Second, the topic is gay marriage. How exactly does single parenthood relate to gay marriage? If anything, legal recognition will allow more kids to be raised in stable multi-parent households, not less.

Honestly, I don't intend to be yelling at you in a "hate" thread, but I can't imagine how you think you're making any sense. This is the opposite of sense.
 
2012-11-18 08:43:13 PM

Dimensio: jso2897: Farker Soze: jso2897: Dimensio: nmrsnr: Serious question: What horrible things is society's acceptance supposed to pave the way for? Nationwide crime is at historic lows, people are more educated than ever (scary, considering the vocal idiots out there, but true), divorce rates are fairly stable (possibly even declining). The only number that seems to be going up is children out of wedlock, and it's hard to see how homosexual relationships effects that one that much. So what is the problem, exactly?

As homosexuality is increasingly tolerated, bigots who irrationlly predict the downfall of human civilization are more readily exposed as dishonest and not worthy of trust. Many of these bigots are in positions of authority and derive their income from the trust of members of the public. As they are exposed as dishonest, due to their claims regarding homosexuality being demonstrably falsified, their income and their very livelihoods are threatened. Their desperate and dishonest attacks against homosexuals have become an attempt to retain sufficient relevance to remain solvent.

A similar phenomenon may observed in leaders of gun control advocacy groups.

Poor comparison,. Gun grabbers are deluded people who mean well, but fail to grasp the paradox of unintended consequences and the folly of prohibition. Their desire for a safe and peaceful world is rational - the way they think they can achieve it is not.

Nah. Gun control and gay control aren't about guns or gays, they're about control. Just two sets of people trying to impose their will because guns/gays are icky.

Doesn't jibe with my personal experience. I don't really know too many gun grabbers any more, but most of those I have known were just naive and deluded. But that's part of the reason it's gotten to be a pretty rare point of view. People are seeing through it, like they are seeing through the war on drugs.
I don't buy most arguments from equivalency - they are the product of childish and lazy ...


Granted - power, of any kind, always attracts the worst of the breed. The exceptions to that are as rare as....well, as rare as great leaders. And they're pretty rare.
 
2012-11-18 08:45:14 PM
This journey into personal antiquity has taught me that the values and beliefs I hold more dearly than gold are not of themselves dusty and timeworn -- ready for the ashcan of history. In fact, I never cease to be amazed at all manner of people, young and old, who I would have never suspected hold firm and cherish these Old Ways and have not bent their knee to Baal. 



This is the the gobbleydegook of a person whose life's perspective has been informed by the mischaracterization of others and a lot of misguided enmity towards people who he has clearly never made an effort to understand.
 
2012-11-18 08:45:57 PM

PonceAlyosha: /Mistertique strikes again!


yes. even Oglaf is not obscure on Fark.
 
2012-11-18 08:47:41 PM

rappy: DeltaPunch: Ugh, now I feel bad making that macro... it certainly applies to the AT, but it's kind of sad in the context of that handicapped person...

/meh
//I'll get over it

You should feel bad, you're a piece of sh*t


*tips hat*
 
2012-11-18 08:48:06 PM
If other animals can engage in homosexual behavior and not be required to go to hell or be blighted from the planet then why do we judge humans? Who the fark really cares who has sex with who? Who really cares who marries who? What business of it is mine? None. Zero. I have no business in any of that. I am a forty something white male. I think from the most reviled demographic out there. I work hard. I accomplish things and I go home. I am not gay but if my co-worker went home to another man as his spouse it would affect me not. Be a fabulous couple. Get the benefits that all married people get. Love is love.

My dad was gay. He liked men. He and my mom divorced when I was 8. He died a few years ago. He never admitted his sexual orientation and he would have been so much happier if he wasn't worried about social stigma and the disappointment he thought I would feel.

Let people marry who they want to marry. "god" has no place in this decision. Love is love. Gender does not matter.
 
2012-11-18 08:48:41 PM

Vlad_the_Inaner: PonceAlyosha: /Mistertique strikes again!

yes. even Oglaf is not obscure on Fark.


Mistress! May I splash on your tits?

Make sure you oil up the hot b*tches. They get so dry.
 
2012-11-18 08:49:06 PM

NutWrench: They really shouldn't call themselves "American Thinker" if all their ideas are stupid.


They're thinking, just not particularly well.

Cheers
 
2012-11-18 08:49:44 PM
www.sadlyno.com
 
2012-11-18 08:51:19 PM

North_Central_Positronics: [Control-F] "divorce"

Another "family structure" asshole with no explanation or solution for the almost 50% divorce rate in America.

Sanctity of (heterosexual) marriage, my ass...


The 50% divorce rate is easy to explain : We've created the idea that we are a nation of individuals MORE than a nation of families. We've created a system that supports divorce and doesn't support marriage. Adultery is no longer a crime. No-fault divorce is the law of the land. We now permit women to exit the marriage with their children and a lienhold on male income just for the act of having put their penises in them a long time ago.

Additionally, earning power has crashed, and the expectation of female labor in the workforce has put every possible match and every possible childbearing under the clock of two careers. Since we eliminated class consciousness and revile sex and gender roles, we now are all competing under the same normative goals : Make the most money and have the most personal liberty - wherein husband and wife are set against each other.

I could go on, but ... there you go. And yes, Gay Marriage becomes functionally equivalent under these circumstances. When marriages relied on two discrete, gendered roles that operated orthoganally in the fabric of a community, with the masculine dominant breadwinner and the feminine submissive housekeeper, Social institutions could afford each liberty within their individual domains while respecting the other. Children could be raised in normative environments where they could learn how to be mature, respectful adults.

... that is , if you believe that this worked for everyone - or even a majority. There are reasons to suspect that in fact it never really worked that well for anyone, but its sole comfort was that expectations were clear, and you could strive to meet or surpass them and take pride in doing so.
 
2012-11-18 08:56:37 PM
So what's the over/under that this guy gets busted with an under-age rent boy?
 
2012-11-18 09:00:43 PM

CPT Ethanolic: Kills me that Fark sends traffic to this horrific website almost daily.


I never click on this sort of link. I think I am not alone.
 
2012-11-18 09:00:43 PM

killermartinis: Bob_Laublaw: killermartinis: Bob_Laublaw: djkutch: What offends me is you can't expect a bride to come with a decent dowry anymore. Why bother to have more than one wife?

There's no way I'd settle for anything less than a ten-cow woman.

Mahana, you ugly, get out of that tree!

"You marry Mahana??!!!? Johnny Lingo, you're a f*cking MANIAC!!!!11!"

The one thing that defines the children of mormons: johnny lingo. Still stands as the pinnacle of lds cinema.


Here it is: the pinnacle of LDS cinema.
 
2012-11-18 09:01:10 PM
Everything is a Pandora's Box to these people, they surely love a story about the evils of a woman not knowing her place. But also there is this constant fear of their own monster within. They have to run screaming from anything mentioning evolution because if evolution is true, they have to become murderers and rapists. And if sexuality is not constrained by their familiar rules, they will just have to head to the nearest gay orgy and let loose.
 
2012-11-18 09:03:36 PM
Let them get married already. Married people tend to lead more stable lifestyles thus tend to make more stable employees- a win for business!
 
2012-11-18 09:03:55 PM
Perhaps most abusive to my moral sensibilities has been the near-fifty-year erosion of the segregational structure and our opening of the Pandora's box of racial equality -- the latter bearing witness to the evolving social normalization of miscegenation. The federal government, in its relentless attempts to equalize the unequal, has waged a long march in thoroughly democratizing the various races. That it has succeeded only in reaping waves of dependence and dysfunction is beyond credulity to citizens raised in the years prior to the Great Society. Additionally, the absent or defective image of the white leader has regressed the ideal of white leadership into a vestigial appendage that can be supplemented by the State or terminally excised by the interchangeable arrangement of negro rule or other lesser races living in a government-sanctioned state of authority. Indeed, in a longitudinal study of selected cities, two negro-run towns were portrayed as the best candidates to emulate. The source of this study? The Journal of Racial Inegration.

This journey into personal antiquity has taught me that the values and beliefs I hold more dearly than gold are not of themselves dusty and timeworn -- ready for the ashcan of history. In fact, I never cease to be amazed at all manner of people, young and old, who I would have never suspected hold firm and cherish these Old Ways and have not bent their knee to the so-called civil rights movement.
 
2012-11-18 09:08:55 PM

Gyrony: killermartinis: Bob_Laublaw: killermartinis: Bob_Laublaw: djkutch: What offends me is you can't expect a bride to come with a decent dowry anymore. Why bother to have more than one wife?

There's no way I'd settle for anything less than a ten-cow woman.

Mahana, you ugly, get out of that tree!

"You marry Mahana??!!!? Johnny Lingo, you're a f*cking MANIAC!!!!11!"

The one thing that defines the children of mormons: johnny lingo. Still stands as the pinnacle of lds cinema.

Here it is: the pinnacle of LDS cinema.


You may be my new best friend. I have it on vhs, but it never occurred to me to look for it on youtube! I will now commence poisoning all other message boards that i'm a regular on.
 
2012-11-18 09:09:57 PM

themindiswatching: Hunter_Worthington: I'm not too worried about it, and, indeed, would hesitate to ascribe the characteristics of permanence to a novel situation.

Eventually, society will come to its sense, the current proponents of the normalization of homosexuality miscegenation will move onto some other social fad they can rally around, and use to re-affirm their virtue while taking out their anxieties and insecurities on their opponents, and the nation will eventually introduce proper regulation governing homosexuals the races and their activities.

FTFY, you cock.


Pity for you, the Mind isn't typing.

Seriously though, don't you people ever get tired of that stale old argument? Come up with something new. Some new jazz, something fresh. Instead of appealing to old arguments, develop something new, something accurate, something that should make you proud you're advocating undermining Western Civilization.
 
2012-11-18 09:11:23 PM
Perhaps most abusive to my moral sensibilities has been the near-fifty-year erosion of the family structure and our opening of the Pandora's box of human sexuality -- the latter bearing witness to the evolving social normalization of homosexuality



It would be difficult to understate the historical absurdity of this statement.
 
2012-11-18 09:12:03 PM

rubi_con_man: North_Central_Positronics: [Control-F] "divorce"

Another "family structure" asshole with no explanation or solution for the almost 50% divorce rate in America.

Sanctity of (heterosexual) marriage, my ass...

The 50% divorce rate is easy to explain : We've created the idea that we are a nation of individuals MORE than a nation of families. We've created a system that supports divorce and doesn't support marriage. Adultery is no longer a crime. No-fault divorce is the law of the land. We now permit women to exit the marriage with their children and a lienhold on male income just for the act of having put their penises in them a long time ago.

Additionally, earning power has crashed, and the expectation of female labor in the workforce has put every possible match and every possible childbearing under the clock of two careers. Since we eliminated class consciousness and revile sex and gender roles, we now are all competing under the same normative goals : Make the most money and have the most personal liberty - wherein husband and wife are set against each other.

I could go on, but ... there you go. And yes, Gay Marriage becomes functionally equivalent under these circumstances. When marriages relied on two discrete, gendered roles that operated orthoganally in the fabric of a community, with the masculine dominant breadwinner and the feminine submissive housekeeper, Social institutions could afford each liberty within their individual domains while respecting the other. Children could be raised in normative environments where they could learn how to be mature, respectful adults.

... that is , if you believe that this worked for everyone - or even a majority. There are reasons to suspect that in fact it never really worked that well for anyone, but its sole comfort was that expectations were clear, and you could strive to meet or surpass them and take pride in doing so.


Well, obviously you missed my post up above; which addressed this from the other direction. The idea that divorce is up because of selfish women and changing gender roles is one way of looking at it. Another way is that there are only two ways to terminate a marriage, divorce and death, and formerly, there was only one: Death. So people trapped in a loveless marriage had to stick it out (what you call "normative" and "taking pride in expectations") because they had no socially acceptable options. I suspect the reason the divorce rate is and has been about 50% since divorce became possible is that about 50% of all RELATIONSHIPS have always been bad for one or both parties; and should never have gotten as far as marriage in the first place.

The idea that perhaps divorce is better for both people--male and female--is simply too complex for people stuck on the notion that Family Is All and more to the point, Nuclear Family Is All, that a Family must be a Father, a Mother and Two Kids or else it's somehow not "really" a Family. If things are "different" now, it's only because society allows divorce but refuses to acknowledge that society has also changed, that kids need financial AND emotional stability; while divorce laws insist on pitting parents against each other in terms of child support and visitation rights, as if the kids were nothing more than another possession to be argued over in court.

If people are worried about "families" they need to stop worrying about "divorce" and start thinking more about supporting children in general. Make sure the kids have a place to live, food to eat, schools to go to and friends to play with; and let mommy and daddy figure out what they're going to do without having to stress over all the rest of the crap.
 
2012-11-18 09:12:52 PM
Cry moar, bigot.
 
2012-11-18 09:13:20 PM

Jeff73: The Journal of Racial Inegration.


i45.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-18 09:16:01 PM

chumboobler: If other animals can engage in homosexual behavior and not be required to go to hell or be blighted from the planet then why do we judge humans? Who the fark really cares who has sex with who? Who really cares who marries who? What business of it is mine? None. Zero. I have no business in any of that. I am a forty something white male. I think from the most reviled demographic out there. I work hard. I accomplish things and I go home. I am not gay but if my co-worker went home to another man as his spouse it would affect me not. Be a fabulous couple. Get the benefits that all married people get. Love is love.

My dad was gay. He liked men. He and my mom divorced when I was 8. He died a few years ago. He never admitted his sexual orientation and he would have been so much happier if he wasn't worried about social stigma and the disappointment he thought I would feel.

Let people marry who they want to marry. "god" has no place in this decision. Love is love. Gender does not matter.


The strange thing is that they target gays to the exclusion of all other alleged abominations. It is written in The Good Book that shellfish are an abomination, so where are the persecutors of those who dare to eat lobster?

Link - God Hates Shrimp
 
2012-11-18 09:16:36 PM

Hunter_Worthington: themindiswatching: Hunter_Worthington: I'm not too worried about it, and, indeed, would hesitate to ascribe the characteristics of permanence to a novel situation.

Eventually, society will come to its sense, the current proponents of the normalization of homosexuality miscegenation will move onto some other social fad they can rally around, and use to re-affirm their virtue while taking out their anxieties and insecurities on their opponents, and the nation will eventually introduce proper regulation governing homosexuals the races and their activities.

FTFY, you cock.

Pity for you, the Mind isn't typing.

Seriously though, don't you people ever get tired of that stale old argument? Come up with something new. Some new jazz, something fresh. Instead of appealing to old arguments, develop something new, something accurate, something that should make you proud you're advocating undermining Western Civilization.


Speaking of stale old arguments...
 
2012-11-18 09:16:57 PM
I'm no saying this to change anyone's mind. How you feel is how you feel and I'm not self-centered enough to think I could persuade anyone. That being said.......

A buddy of mine (who's gay, obviously, or this story would be even more pointless) was just married this past October. While at the ceremony, I didn't notice that two men were up there. I just noticed two people who love each other. This was a decision made by two adults of sound mind. (I also thought that I am never getting married, but that's beside the point).
I remember the day that New York passed the law legalizing gay marriage. My friend was the happiest I've ever seen him. I would never want to deny two people the right to marry. If that's what two consenting adults want to do, so be it. Stay out of other people's lives. If you are opposed to gay marriage, don't get gay married.
 
2012-11-18 09:20:44 PM

PlatinumDragon: Hunter_Worthington: themindiswatching: Hunter_Worthington: I'm not too worried about it, and, indeed, would hesitate to ascribe the characteristics of permanence to a novel situation.

Eventually, society will come to its sense, the current proponents of the normalization of homosexuality miscegenation will move onto some other social fad they can rally around, and use to re-affirm their virtue while taking out their anxieties and insecurities on their opponents, and the nation will eventually introduce proper regulation governing homosexuals the races and their activities.

FTFY, you cock.

Pity for you, the Mind isn't typing.

Seriously though, don't you people ever get tired of that stale old argument? Come up with something new. Some new jazz, something fresh. Instead of appealing to old arguments, develop something new, something accurate, something that should make you proud you're advocating undermining Western Civilization.

Speaking of stale old arguments...


I Know, right. My other favorite is the absurd "love is love" nonsense.
 
2012-11-18 09:21:45 PM

Hunter_Worthington: themindiswatching: Hunter_Worthington: I'm not too worried about it, and, indeed, would hesitate to ascribe the characteristics of permanence to a novel situation.

Eventually, society will come to its sense, the current proponents of the normalization of homosexuality miscegenation will move onto some other social fad they can rally around, and use to re-affirm their virtue while taking out their anxieties and insecurities on their opponents, and the nation will eventually introduce proper regulation governing homosexuals the races and their activities.

FTFY, you cock.

Pity for you, the Mind isn't typing.

Seriously though, don't you people ever get tired of that stale old argument? Come up with something new. Some new jazz, something fresh. Instead of appealing to old arguments, develop something new, something accurate, something that should make you proud you're advocating undermining Western Civilization.


Here's something new: you're an asshole who' s still pissed about integration.

No, wait, that is also old news. You win.
 
2012-11-18 09:22:01 PM

Gyrfalcon: Well, obviously you missed my post up above; which addressed this from the other direction. The idea that divorce is up because of selfish women and changing gender roles is one way of looking at it. Another way is that there are only two ways to terminate a marriage, divorce and death, and formerly, there was only one: Death. So people trapped in a loveless marriage had to stick it out (what you call "normative" and "taking pride in expectations") because they had no socially acceptable options. I suspect the reason the divorce rate is and has been about 50% since divorce became possible is that about 50% of all RELATIONSHIPS have always been bad for one or both parties; and should never have gotten as far as marriage in the first place.

The idea that perhaps divorce is better for both people--male and female--is simply too complex for people stuck on the notion that Family Is All and more to the point, Nuclear Family Is All, that a Family must be a Father, a Mother and Two Kids or else it's somehow not "really" a Family. If things are "different" now, it's only because society allows divorce but refuses to acknowledge that society has also changed, that kids need financial AND emotional stability; while divorce laws insist on pitting parents against each other in terms of child support and visitation rights, as if the kids were nothing more than another possession to be argued over in court.

If people are worried about "families" they need to stop worrying about "divorce" and start thinking more about supporting children in general. Make sure the kids have a place to live, food to eat, schools to go to and friends to play with; and let mommy and daddy figure out what they're going to do without having to stress over all the rest of the crap.


Divorce saved my daughter from being raised to think that relationships are based on mutual dislike and distrust. I loved my wife, but we based a marriage on entirely different expectations, and we refused to acknowledge that, and we wound up despising one another. If we'd stayed together "for the sake of our children" our girl would have been raised up thinking that people despising one another was normal, and it would have scarred her far worse than the divorce did.

What kills me, in the debate on marriage equality, is the idea that other peoples' marriages have anything to do with the validity of your own. That what other churches, or ministries, or folks who don't share someone's faith or any at all, have to do with what goes on in anyone else's.

Your church doesn't want to perform same sex marriages? Doesn't want to grant divorces? That's well and good for you, but that doesn't give license to demand that from any OTHER faith. That's freedom of religion. Free to do as your faith compels you, and allow others to tend to their own. It is a sin in YOUR church? Fantastic. Go with that. Never mind what Unitarians, or Methodists or even Catholics do then.

Don't like it? Don't eat it. But never mind what other people have on their own plates. It worked when we were five, and it still works today...
 
2012-11-18 09:22:41 PM
Thus, I am as some quaint heirloom that has philosophically and volitionally waded out from the river of popular culture, while residing in the  tenuous  and shallow  eddies of the far banks -- self-arresting my progress  and pausing more to gaze behind me  than afore.

No, dude... You're just an asshole.

Also, maybe American Potato's genius writers haven't realized this yet, but homosexual parenting doesn't lead to the "decline of the father". In the case of two gay men raising a child, it actually doubles the number of fathers. But even beyond the absolute numerical increase of fathers, gay dads challenge the pervasive norms that de-value fatherhood, by casting men in the primary parenting role and emphasizing the importance of men raising children.
 
2012-11-18 09:23:41 PM
Hunter_Worthington:

10-28-12. Nice shiny new alt. Have fun batting around the troll, boys.
 
2012-11-18 09:25:43 PM
As some married to someone of another race, I'm glad to know that assholes like this are dying out, quickly.
 
2012-11-18 09:28:15 PM

Hunter_Worthington: themindiswatching: Hunter_Worthington: I'm not too worried about it, and, indeed, would hesitate to ascribe the characteristics of permanence to a novel situation.

Eventually, society will come to its sense, the current proponents of the normalization of homosexuality miscegenation will move onto some other social fad they can rally around, and use to re-affirm their virtue while taking out their anxieties and insecurities on their opponents, and the nation will eventually introduce proper regulation governing homosexuals the races and their activities.

FTFY, you cock.

Pity for you, the Mind isn't typing.

Seriously though, don't you people ever get tired of that stale old argument? Come up with something new. Some new jazz, something fresh. Instead of appealing to old arguments, develop something new, something accurate, something that should make you proud you're advocating undermining Western Civilization.


The fact that you will perish in about fifteen seconds without that civilization to protect you is a pretty good reason. Weaklings like you are not necessary, and only drag down the race. Let Darwin have his way, say I. See you in the jungle, lunch.
 
2012-11-18 09:28:26 PM
These idiots are on the wrong side of history and won't be around too long. Now they only have abortion and immigration to rally the extreme right.
 
2012-11-18 09:29:32 PM
That guy's scribblings are abusive to my literary sensibilities.
 
2012-11-18 09:30:56 PM

Hunter_Worthington: themindiswatching: Hunter_Worthington: I'm not too worried about it, and, indeed, would hesitate to ascribe the characteristics of permanence to a novel situation.

Eventually, society will come to its sense, the current proponents of the normalization of homosexuality miscegenation will move onto some other social fad they can rally around, and use to re-affirm their virtue while taking out their anxieties and insecurities on their opponents, and the nation will eventually introduce proper regulation governing homosexuals the races and their activities.

FTFY, you cock.

Pity for you, the Mind isn't typing.

Seriously though, don't you people ever get tired of that stale old argument? Come up with something new. Some new jazz, something fresh. Instead of appealing to old arguments, develop something new, something accurate, something that should make you proud you're advocating undermining Western Civilization.


How is a level playing field for all a stale old argument? Unless you prefer the ways of the USSR?
 
2012-11-18 09:31:23 PM
"I do not mean to represent myself as some Luddite antiquarian"

Then you should have stopped writing here.


"...which has the corrupting effect of sandblasting culture free of its philosophical and moral diversity"

You are truly advocating for less philosophical and moral diversity before and after this point. Why is this here?


"The federal government, in its relentless attempts to equalize the unequal"

THE HORROR!


"the absent or defective image of the father has regressed the ideal of the male into a vestigial appendage that can be supplemented by the State or terminally excised by the interchangeable arrangement of two men or two women [in marriage]"

The absent or defective image of the father has regressed the ideal of the male to the point of being terminally excised by the arrangement of two men in marriage.

The broken image of the father has regressed the ideal of the "man" to the point it can be killed by two men getting married.

The image of fatherhood has withered to the point that manliness itself can be killed by two men getting married.

Two men getting married kills fatherhood and, consequently, manliness.

Gays kill men like me. Also, America.
 
2012-11-18 09:31:57 PM

Farker Soze: Hunter_Worthington: themindiswatching: Hunter_Worthington: I'm not too worried about it, and, indeed, would hesitate to ascribe the characteristics of permanence to a novel situation.

Eventually, society will come to its sense, the current proponents of the normalization of homosexuality miscegenation will move onto some other social fad they can rally around, and use to re-affirm their virtue while taking out their anxieties and insecurities on their opponents, and the nation will eventually introduce proper regulation governing homosexuals the races and their activities.

FTFY, you cock.

Pity for you, the Mind isn't typing.

Seriously though, don't you people ever get tired of that stale old argument? Come up with something new. Some new jazz, something fresh. Instead of appealing to old arguments, develop something new, something accurate, something that should make you proud you're advocating undermining Western Civilization.

Here's something new: you're an asshole who' s still pissed about integration.

No, wait, that is also old news. You win.


Ha-ha. The feeble attempt of a feeble mind. You'd do yourself well to simply move on from the homosexual problem and apply yourself to things more, shall we say, within your capacity. I suggest you start with the perplexing problem of "who did the fork runaway with?" Come back in 18 years when you grow up.

In the meantime, the adults are running things.
 
2012-11-18 09:33:31 PM

Hunter_Worthington: PlatinumDragon: Hunter_Worthington: themindiswatching: Hunter_Worthington: I'm not too worried about it, and, indeed, would hesitate to ascribe the characteristics of permanence to a novel situation.

Eventually, society will come to its sense, the current proponents of the normalization of homosexuality miscegenation will move onto some other social fad they can rally around, and use to re-affirm their virtue while taking out their anxieties and insecurities on their opponents, and the nation will eventually introduce proper regulation governing homosexuals the races and their activities.

FTFY, you cock.

Pity for you, the Mind isn't typing.

Seriously though, don't you people ever get tired of that stale old argument? Come up with something new. Some new jazz, something fresh. Instead of appealing to old arguments, develop something new, something accurate, something that should make you proud you're advocating undermining Western Civilization.

Speaking of stale old arguments...

I Know, right. My other favorite is the absurd "love is love" nonsense.


Yeah, and what about that bigoted hatred is bigoted hatred codswallop?
 
2012-11-18 09:34:39 PM

Hunter_Worthington: ...the homosexual problem...


[quizzicaldog]

The problem isn't homosexuals.

It's the people who have a problem with them that are the problem.

/See: Your mirror.
 
2012-11-18 09:34:46 PM
Jesus Christ, on the importance of family:

31 There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him.
32 And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee.
33 And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren?
34 And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!

Ayn Rand, on stay-at-home mothers:

PLAYBOY: In your opinion, is a woman immoral who chooses to devote herself to home and family instead of a career?
RAND: Not immoral-I would say she is impractical, because a home cannot be a full-time occupation, except when her children are young.

So, it seems that social conservatism's view of a "traditional" nuclear family as the primary social unit doesn't come from their mentors. It comes from Leave it to Beaver.

It's a relevantly new, and distinctly American, concept.
 
2012-11-18 09:37:51 PM

kg2095: The strange thing is that they target gays to the exclusion of all other alleged abominations. It is written in The Good Book that shellfish are an abomination, so where are the persecutors of those who dare to eat lobster?

Link - God Hates Shrimp


Shellfish doesn't make them feel all funny inside.

No, it's not a biblical thing. That's just an excuse, a rationalization. It's a prudish thing.

I'm living in China, and you get the same kind of stuff here. It's immoral, it's unnatural, blah blah.
 
2012-11-18 09:39:02 PM

quatchi: /See: Your mirror.


Oh come on, you really think he believes this? :P
 
2012-11-18 09:39:35 PM

quatchi: Hunter_Worthington: ...the homosexual problem...

[quizzicaldog]

The problem isn't homosexuals.

It's the people who have a problem with them that are the problem.

/See: Your mirror.


Really? I'd be interested in hearing his answer to the homosexual problem. What's the final solution to the homosexual problem, as it were. Surely, there must be one, as all problems have a final solution, right?
 
2012-11-18 09:41:39 PM
Maybe he should try using moral rationality, rather than moral sensibility. I rarely act on what i "feel" is right.
 
2012-11-18 09:41:40 PM
This thread is queer.
 
2012-11-18 09:42:43 PM

RyogaM: quatchi: Hunter_Worthington: ...the homosexual problem...

[quizzicaldog]

The problem isn't homosexuals.

It's the people who have a problem with them that are the problem.

/See: Your mirror.

Really? I'd be interested in hearing his answer to the homosexual problem. What's the final solution to the homosexual problem, as it were. Surely, there must be one, as all problems have a final solution, right?


I had a modest proposal in mind, but I realized that about half of all homosexuals already eat each other.

Of course, it's the 50% that straight men typically don't have a problem with.
 
2012-11-18 09:44:10 PM

Massa Damnata: Maybe he should try using moral rationality, rather than moral sensibility. I rarely act on what i "feel" is right.


The vast majority of people do. Rationality is typically only used to rationalize.
 
2012-11-18 09:44:46 PM

kg2095: Hunter_Worthington: PlatinumDragon: Hunter_Worthington: themindiswatching: Hunter_Worthington: I'm not too worried about it, and, indeed, would hesitate to ascribe the characteristics of permanence to a novel situation.

Eventually, society will come to its sense, the current proponents of the normalization of homosexuality miscegenation will move onto some other social fad they can rally around, and use to re-affirm their virtue while taking out their anxieties and insecurities on their opponents, and the nation will eventually introduce proper regulation governing homosexuals the races and their activities.

FTFY, you cock.

Pity for you, the Mind isn't typing.

Seriously though, don't you people ever get tired of that stale old argument? Come up with something new. Some new jazz, something fresh. Instead of appealing to old arguments, develop something new, something accurate, something that should make you proud you're advocating undermining Western Civilization.

Speaking of stale old arguments...

I Know, right. My other favorite is the absurd "love is love" nonsense.

Yeah, and what about that bigoted hatred is bigoted hatred codswallop?


Serious? I don't think the proponents are bigoted, or full of hatred, I think they're well-intended yet misguided, while lacking the ability to think about the future. they'll cause some trouble in the short term, but in the long run, everything will come back to normal.

quatchi: Hunter_Worthington: ...the homosexual problem...

[quizzicaldog]

The problem isn't homosexuals.

It's the people who have a problem with them that are the problem.

/See: Your mirror.


If the homosexuals weren't agitating for "rights" (they really mean privileges, but that's another topic) they have no business possessing, there wouldn't be any problems.
 
2012-11-18 09:45:46 PM

Hunter_Worthington: Farker Soze: Hunter_Worthington: themindiswatching: Hunter_Worthington: I'm not too worried about it, and, indeed, would hesitate to ascribe the characteristics of permanence to a novel situation.

Eventually, society will come to its sense, the current proponents of the normalization of homosexuality miscegenation will move onto some other social fad they can rally around, and use to re-affirm their virtue while taking out their anxieties and insecurities on their opponents, and the nation will eventually introduce proper regulation governing homosexuals the races and their activities.

FTFY, you cock.

Pity for you, the Mind isn't typing.

Seriously though, don't you people ever get tired of that stale old argument? Come up with something new. Some new jazz, something fresh. Instead of appealing to old arguments, develop something new, something accurate, something that should make you proud you're advocating undermining Western Civilization.

Here's something new: you're an asshole who' s still pissed about integration.

No, wait, that is also old news. You win.

Ha-ha. The feeble attempt of a feeble mind. You'd do yourself well to simply move on from the homosexual problem and apply yourself to things more, shall we say, within your capacity. I suggest you start with the perplexing problem of "who did the fork runaway with?" Come back in 18 years when you grow up.

In the meantime, the adults are running things.


Well hurry back to bed before they find you screwing with the computer!

\and clean your room, Junior
 
2012-11-18 09:46:22 PM

Hunter_Worthington: If the homosexuals weren't agitating for "rights" (they really mean privileges, but that's another topic) they have no business possessing, there wouldn't be any problems.


If the Christians weren't agitating for "rights" (they really mean privileges, but that's another topic) they have no business possessing, there wouldn't be any problems.

If the Republicans weren't agitating for "rights" (they really mean privileges, but that's another topic) they have no business possessing, there wouldn't be any problems.

If the wizards weren't agitating for "rights" (they really mean privileges, but that's another topic) they have no business possessing, there wouldn't be any problems.
 
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