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(American Thinker)   "Perhaps most abusive to my moral sensibilities has been the near-fifty-year erosion of the family structure and our opening of the Pandora's box of human sexuality -- the latter bearing witness to the evolving social normalization of homosexuality"   (americanthinker.com) divider line 425
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2012-11-18 06:27:30 PM

clkeagle: [oceanisdeep.files.wordpress.com image 478x360] 

Funny how it's always the fat, old, white guys who are most resistant to change...


I've thought the people relying on false equivalencies are worth a chuckle or two...
 
2012-11-18 06:27:58 PM

quatchi: Ooh, looks like someone at AT bought themselves a shiny new Thesaurus.

FTA: The Body Cult has, I suppose, always been present in American culture


During the Usenet Spam Wars, there was this one guy on NANAE who always made the most bizarre posts. It was later revealed that his secret was to compose his dumb-as-dirt posts, then run each through a thesaurus, picking word substitutions at random (completely missing the fact that the various words had different nuances), and then vomit the result up into the thread. He called this "high-level English". The guy in TFA here seems to have done something similar.
 
2012-11-18 06:29:05 PM

quatchi: clkeagle: ToxicMunkee: Humans were way more free sexually before religion came in and started repressing everything.

No kidding. Ancient Romans would ask WTF is wrong with us.

I blame the War on Saturnalia.


Archduke Ferdinand had it coming. Not my fault.
 
2012-11-18 06:29:52 PM

clkeagle: [oceanisdeep.files.wordpress.com image 478x360] 

Funny how it's always the fat, old, white guys who are most resistant to change...


Or young people enjoying their bodies, and other people's bodies. Almost like they feel better about their beer guts, cellulite, and saggy nutsacks if they know that nobody else is enjoying sex either.
 
2012-11-18 06:31:03 PM

DamnYankees: That was a hilarious article.


That word-salad gave me a farking headache. I have the impression that they could have just published the fark headline and saved us all a lot of headache.

Of course, the "author is deluding himself into believing that people didn't fark like bunnies in the utopian days of the 50's.
 
2012-11-18 06:31:04 PM

Dimensio: nmrsnr: Serious question: What horrible things is society's acceptance supposed to pave the way for? Nationwide crime is at historic lows, people are more educated than ever (scary, considering the vocal idiots out there, but true), divorce rates are fairly stable (possibly even declining). The only number that seems to be going up is children out of wedlock, and it's hard to see how homosexual relationships effects that one that much. So what is the problem, exactly?

As homosexuality is increasingly tolerated, bigots who irrationlly predict the downfall of human civilization are more readily exposed as dishonest and not worthy of trust. Many of these bigots are in positions of authority and derive their income from the trust of members of the public. As they are exposed as dishonest, due to their claims regarding homosexuality being demonstrably falsified, their income and their very livelihoods are threatened. Their desperate and dishonest attacks against homosexuals have become an attempt to retain sufficient relevance to remain solvent.

A similar phenomenon may observed in leaders of gun control advocacy groups.


Poor comparison,. Gun grabbers are deluded people who mean well, but fail to grasp the paradox of unintended consequences and the folly of prohibition. Their desire for a safe and peaceful world is rational - the way they think they can achieve it is not.
 
2012-11-18 06:31:53 PM

Corvus: Vegan Meat Popsicle: Oh. Look. An American Thinker link. What a shock.

I worked with a guy who said he read AT so he could think "independently". He didn't really seem to get the irony of that.


I hope you weren't expecting him to... I sure as Hell wouldn't be holding MY breath.
 
2012-11-18 06:33:45 PM
Oh, boo hoo. You've never gotten laid and therefore the world is a moral cesspool.

Cry me a river, biatch-writer. And subby, punch yourself in the balls for another AT article.
 
2012-11-18 06:34:03 PM

Atillathepun: "Perhaps most abusive to my moral sensibilities has been the near-fifty-year erosion of the family structure and our opening of the Pandora's box of human sexuality -- the latter bearing witness to the evolving social normalization of miscegenation"


Scratch off the thin layer of shiny paint and that might not be too far from what he actually believes. A casual stroll through the comment section of any major self-described conservative news site will serve to show that racism and homophobia tend to run in the same package. WND, Fox, I'm looking at you here.
 
2012-11-18 06:34:47 PM

dennysgod: I wager to guess that they feel the start of this erosion was when a black man could marry white women.


If the supercons I know are any gauge, it was LBJ's "Great Society". Because giving welfare to black women means they didn't need a husband. And thus, every bad thing that ever happened ever? Happened.
 
2012-11-18 06:35:07 PM

jso2897: Dimensio: nmrsnr: Serious question: What horrible things is society's acceptance supposed to pave the way for? Nationwide crime is at historic lows, people are more educated than ever (scary, considering the vocal idiots out there, but true), divorce rates are fairly stable (possibly even declining). The only number that seems to be going up is children out of wedlock, and it's hard to see how homosexual relationships effects that one that much. So what is the problem, exactly?

As homosexuality is increasingly tolerated, bigots who irrationlly predict the downfall of human civilization are more readily exposed as dishonest and not worthy of trust. Many of these bigots are in positions of authority and derive their income from the trust of members of the public. As they are exposed as dishonest, due to their claims regarding homosexuality being demonstrably falsified, their income and their very livelihoods are threatened. Their desperate and dishonest attacks against homosexuals have become an attempt to retain sufficient relevance to remain solvent.

A similar phenomenon may observed in leaders of gun control advocacy groups.

Poor comparison,. Gun grabbers are deluded people who mean well, but fail to grasp the paradox of unintended consequences and the folly of prohibition. Their desire for a safe and peaceful world is rational - the way they think they can achieve it is not.


Nah. Gun control and gay control aren't about guns or gays, they're about control. Just two sets of people trying to impose their will because guns/gays are icky.
 
2012-11-18 06:36:06 PM

clkeagle: [oceanisdeep.files.wordpress.com image 478x360] 

Funny how it's always the fat, old, white guys who are most resistant to change...


I'm pretty sure the guy on the right panel is supposed to be an old, fat, black guy.

So it's old, fat guys who are resistant to change; race has nothing to do with it. Though it could be possible that old, fat Asian guys are unusually dynamic, as they are not represented in this cartoon. There is no reason to assume that is the case, but it probably warrants further investigation.
 
2012-11-18 06:38:00 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Notabunny: Mark 11:12-14 "And on the morrow, when they were come from Bethany, he was hungry: And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not yet. And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever. And his disciples heard it."

Man, Jesus sounds like a total prick.

Jesus: "I'm hungry!"
Disciple: "Uh ... alright Jesus. I guess we can stop and get something to eat. I don't suppose you could maybe Miracle-up some fish or some--"
Jesus: "BAM! Look over there! A fig tree! I lurrrrrve figs, yo! Let's go!"
Disciple: "Yeah, uh Jesus? This isn't the season for fig--"
Jesus: "What do you mean this isn't the season for figs? It's got leaves, doesn't it? Jackass. C'mon! I got a hankering for fiiiiiiiiiiigs!"
Disciples: "right."
[Disciples hurry after Jesus as he runs full-tilt into the weeds to the fig tree.]
Jesus: "AW! WHAT THE FARK! NO FIGS???!!?!?"
Disciple: "Yeah, this is what I was talk--"
Jesus: "THAT'S IT! NEW RULE:

No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever.

YOU GOT ME, GUYS??!?!?"
Disciples: "...right."


To hear Matthew tell it in 21: 18-20, Jebus hated figs so much he didn't just tell his tag-alongs to go hungry, he smote the tree. Smote it to death! Dude had a temper, I guess. Maybe if just one of those knuckleheads had mentioned that you can make wine from pretty much any fruit there'd have been a little rejoicing. But, no. Which I totally understand. I'd have kept my trap shut, too, if I just watch the son of God blast a tree to death. So now it's "Eat a Newton, go to hell".
 
2012-11-18 06:38:58 PM

CPT Ethanolic: Kills me that Fark sends traffic to this horrific website almost daily.


Nah - most people never ever click the links. This should be obvious when you read the comments.
 
2012-11-18 06:42:01 PM
i don't know if I'll be able to sleep tonight worrying about that guys abused moral sensibilities.
 
2012-11-18 06:42:30 PM

CPT Ethanolic: Kills me that Fark sends traffic to this horrific website almost daily.


people actually click those links?
 
2012-11-18 06:43:30 PM

r1chard3: i don't know if I'll be able to sleep tonight worrying about that guys abused moral sensibilities.


I can't sleep with the idea of weiners in butts. But not girl butts. Guy butts.
 
2012-11-18 06:44:23 PM

Farker Soze: jso2897: Dimensio: nmrsnr: Serious question: What horrible things is society's acceptance supposed to pave the way for? Nationwide crime is at historic lows, people are more educated than ever (scary, considering the vocal idiots out there, but true), divorce rates are fairly stable (possibly even declining). The only number that seems to be going up is children out of wedlock, and it's hard to see how homosexual relationships effects that one that much. So what is the problem, exactly?

As homosexuality is increasingly tolerated, bigots who irrationlly predict the downfall of human civilization are more readily exposed as dishonest and not worthy of trust. Many of these bigots are in positions of authority and derive their income from the trust of members of the public. As they are exposed as dishonest, due to their claims regarding homosexuality being demonstrably falsified, their income and their very livelihoods are threatened. Their desperate and dishonest attacks against homosexuals have become an attempt to retain sufficient relevance to remain solvent.

A similar phenomenon may observed in leaders of gun control advocacy groups.

Poor comparison,. Gun grabbers are deluded people who mean well, but fail to grasp the paradox of unintended consequences and the folly of prohibition. Their desire for a safe and peaceful world is rational - the way they think they can achieve it is not.

Nah. Gun control and gay control aren't about guns or gays, they're about control. Just two sets of people trying to impose their will because guns/gays are icky.


Doesn't jibe with my personal experience. I don't really know too many gun grabbers any more, but most of those I have known were just naive and deluded. But that's part of the reason it's gotten to be a pretty rare point of view. People are seeing through it, like they are seeing through the war on drugs.
I don't buy most arguments from equivalency - they are the product of childish and lazy minds.
No, You! is what you hear coming out of the mouth of a five year old. Gay bashers and gun grabbers are both dead wrong - but that doesn't make them the same kind of people.
 
2012-11-18 06:45:17 PM
American Thinker probably only has a P.O. box, but I really want to send them a phalanx of hookers for Holidays.

//no American Thinker, that was not an attempt to further enflame the War on Xmas
 
2012-11-18 06:45:37 PM
That's it , I'm starting a "right wing" blog so I can watch the money roll in when Fark send me traffic. The first article will be about the medical fact that gay sex only produce socialist children.
 
2012-11-18 06:45:45 PM
img715.imageshack.us

"I deny them my essence, Mandrake."
 
2012-11-18 06:48:01 PM

Hobodeluxe: CPT Ethanolic: Kills me that Fark sends traffic to this horrific website almost daily.

people actually click those links?


As I said before... if you see links from the following sites:

-American Thinker
-NRO
-Breitbart
-Washington Times
-The Daily Caller
-FoxNews
-FoxNation
-WorldNewsDaily
-NewsMax
-Newsbusters
-DrudgeReport
-TownHall
-Investors.com

... and if you think you'll be the Weenerser, please, click the link, copypasta the derp in the thread, and spare us all as well as spare them from ad revenue.
 
2012-11-18 06:49:45 PM
I had gay sex with the guy that wrote this article.
 
2012-11-18 06:49:49 PM

talkertopc: That's it , I'm starting a "right wing" blog so I can watch the money roll in when Fark send me traffic. The first article will be about the medical fact that gay sex only produce socialist children.


I dunno, with something that Poe-rific, I might click just to see the comments and/or to advance the cause of allowing the more derp-tastic sites to flourish so that the world can see what charlatans the GOP has become.
 
2012-11-18 06:50:32 PM

nmrsnr: Serious question: What horrible things is society's acceptance supposed to pave the way for?


Well, RuPaul's Drag Race, for starters.
 
2012-11-18 06:50:55 PM

coeyagi: Hobodeluxe: CPT Ethanolic: Kills me that Fark sends traffic to this horrific website almost daily.

people actually click those links?

As I said before... if you see links from the following sites:

-American Thinker
-NRO
-Breitbart
-Washington Times
-The Daily Caller
-FoxNews
-FoxNation
-WorldNewsDaily
-NewsMax
-Newsbusters
-DrudgeReport
-TownHall
-Investors.com

... and if you think you'll be the Weenerser, please, click the link, copypasta the derp in the thread, and spare us all as well as spare them from ad revenue.


Sigh. Filters. God damn them.

First person to provide commentary.... we cool, filter?
 
2012-11-18 06:51:52 PM
Are all conservatives as sexually frustrated, or just this Bozo?
 
2012-11-18 06:51:53 PM

coeyagi: Hobodeluxe: CPT Ethanolic: Kills me that Fark sends traffic to this horrific website almost daily.

people actually click those links?

As I said before... if you see links from the following sites:

-American Thinker
-NRO
-Breitbart
-Washington Times
-The Daily Caller
-FoxNews
-FoxNation
-WorldNewsDaily
-NewsMax
-Newsbusters
-DrudgeReport
-TownHall
-Investors.com

... and if you think you'll be the Weenerser, please, click the link, copypasta the derp in the thread, and spare us all as well as spare them from ad revenue.


These sites are the reason I pretty much visit Reddit from now on. These aren't rational opinion sites. I'll read those. These are a product of the astroturf media created by the PR machine created by the wealthy to further their narrative.

Why would I embarrass myself by falling for it?
 
2012-11-18 06:52:31 PM

coeyagi: American Thinker probably only has a P.O. box, but I really want to send them a phalanx of hookers for Holidays.

//no American Thinker, that was not an attempt to further enflame the War on Xmas


I imagine they'd appreciate a simple card

img.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-18 06:52:54 PM
Here is the thing that I do not get about the whole "make them get back in the closet" section of homophobic retards...do they honestly think there was anything healthy or safe about the tendency before homosexuality became more open, to marry a beard and have gay relations on the downlow, exposing a partner and possibly even offspring to HIV? How could that have possibly been more the more "moral" time in American history? Besides anytime I see a self-righteous moralist preacher talking about how evil the gays are, my knee jerk reaction is "closet case who will be found blowing a stranger in a public restroom." When are we going to get the next wave of Republican moralist morons caught tapping their toes to prove me right? The elections are over...there has to be one or two "secret" partners who did not get flowers on their birthday and are ready to tell all!
 
2012-11-18 06:53:28 PM

coeyagi: American Thinker probably only has a P.O. box, but I really want to send them a phalanx of hookers for Holidays.

//no American Thinker, that was not an attempt to further enflame the War on Xmas


Hookers come in phalanxes?
 
2012-11-18 06:54:04 PM

Dimensio: shastacola: nmrsnr: Serious question: What horrible things is society's acceptance supposed to pave the way for?

Nate Silver comes out:

The homosexualists strike again!

He was not out before?


Nate was Out in 2010 according to Out magazine. 

Link
 
2012-11-18 06:54:26 PM

optional: Funny how it's always the fat, old, white guys who are most resistant to change...

I'm pretty sure the guy on the right panel is supposed to be an old, fat, black guy.

So it's old, fat guys who are resistant to change; race has nothing to do with it. Though it could be possible that old, fat Asian guys are unusually dynamic, as they are not represented in this cartoon. There is no reason to assume that is the case, but it probably warrants further investigation


Hey, I hadn't noticed that before. That makes the cartoon even better. Thanks!
 
2012-11-18 06:55:33 PM

coeyagi: American Thinker probably only has a P.O. box, but I really want to send them a phalanx of hookers for Holidays.

//no American Thinker, that was not an attempt to further enflame the War on Xmas


Isn't the correct term a Groping of hookers?
 
2012-11-18 06:55:47 PM

Teresaol31: Here is the thing that I do not get about the whole "make them get back in the closet" section of homophobic retards...do they honestly think there was anything healthy or safe about the tendency before homosexuality became more open, to marry a beard and have gay relations on the downlow, exposing a partner and possibly even offspring to HIV? How could that have possibly been more the more "moral" time in American history? Besides anytime I see a self-righteous moralist preacher talking about how evil the gays are, my knee jerk reaction is "closet case who will be found blowing a stranger in a public restroom." When are we going to get the next wave of Republican moralist morons caught tapping their toes to prove me right? The elections are over...there has to be one or two "secret" partners who did not get flowers on their birthday and are ready to tell all!


Creating shame is the Christian way, or at least, the Catholics perfected it, and the evangelicals don't seem too bothered by it either.

But let's extend this to abortion - shame is way cool there too, and if it were allowed it would create shamed women who have to get an illegal one, assuming of course they were still alive after the procedure to accept such shame.

What an awesome society it would be.
 
2012-11-18 06:57:45 PM

Gyrfalcon: coeyagi: American Thinker probably only has a P.O. box, but I really want to send them a phalanx of hookers for Holidays.

//no American Thinker, that was not an attempt to further enflame the War on Xmas

Hookers come in phalanxes?


In Greece they do. Although, with austerity measures, I might only be able to send them a platoon or two.
 
2012-11-18 06:58:22 PM

Gyrfalcon: coeyagi: American Thinker probably only has a P.O. box, but I really want to send them a phalanx of hookers for Holidays.

//no American Thinker, that was not an attempt to further enflame the War on Xmas


Hookers come in phalanxes?


Naw, they just fake it, mostly.

*blink*
 
2012-11-18 07:00:42 PM
FTFA: "I am a relic of an age that is rapidly becoming a distant memory for some and an impossible fiction for most. And while I am only in my mid-fifties chronologically, culture-wise I am on the leeward side of a great divide..."

Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.
 
2012-11-18 07:03:13 PM

buckler: During the Usenet Spam Wars, there was this one guy on NANAE who always made the most bizarre posts. It was later revealed that his secret was to compose his dumb-as-dirt posts, then run each through a thesaurus, picking word substitutions at random (completely missing the fact that the various words had different nuances), and then vomit the result up into the thread. He called this "high-level English". The guy in TFA here seems to have done something similar.


Add "a couple of unnecessary trips through google-translate: and I think you're on to something.

I sure as fark hope he doesn't think he's the next Buckley.

I've read Buckley in his prime and while I rarely agreed with him, the man could write.

Unlike this utter waste of bandwidth.
 
2012-11-18 07:06:00 PM

djkutch: And, it's none of your business if I want to toss a worthless female newborn on the trash heap.


So what's your solution to excess females? Abortion??? INFAMOUS!

/A little Swift for your Sunday evening
 
2012-11-18 07:10:54 PM

Hunter_Worthington: I've thought the people relying on false equivalencies are worth a chuckle or two...


Yeah, also those people who troll sites with alt logins, too. Fun-nay!
 
2012-11-18 07:12:52 PM
Then move to Saudi Arabia, you farking bigot.
 
2012-11-18 07:13:00 PM
i know that this is a hate thread and that i will probably get yelled at but i think there is some truth to this article. families are becoming a thing of the past and that is a huge problem because families are what create human capital. what percentage of children are raise in single mother homes? 40% or something? and they have a huge chance of turn out to be worthless members of society. Its the kind of thing that, through entropy accumulated over generations, can bring down empires.
 
2012-11-18 07:14:57 PM

GF named my left testicle thundercles: what percentage of children are raise in single mother homes? 40% or something? and they have a huge chance of turn out to be worthless members of society.


The single mothers I know who are doing a fine job of raising their kids respectfully ask you to EABOD and FOAD.
 
2012-11-18 07:15:00 PM

GF named my left testicle thundercles: i know that this is a hate thread and that i will probably get yelled at but i think there is some truth to this article. families are becoming a thing of the past and that is a huge problem because families are what create human capital. what percentage of children are raise in single mother homes? 40% or something? and they have a huge chance of turn out to be worthless members of society. Its the kind of thing that, through entropy accumulated over generations, can bring down empires.


It's 25%. And families are being eroded by poverty and crime, brought on by a shrinking middle class, which is also brought to you by the party of the asshole writing the article.
 
2012-11-18 07:17:47 PM

eddiesocket: shastacola: nmrsnr: Serious question: What horrible things is society's acceptance supposed to pave the way for?

Nate Silver comes out:

http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/3-it-doesnt-matter-nate-silver-is -gay-it-matters-america-knows-he-is/politics/2012/11/18/54038

The homosexualists strike again!

He's been out for years.


Heck, he was in the Out 100 a few years ago. Also, I could swear that he's the one who initially brought it up on his blog back in 2008 as a way of fully disclosing any potential biases when writing about Prop 8 projections.
 
2012-11-18 07:19:25 PM

nmrsnr: Serious question: What horrible things is society's acceptance supposed to pave the way for? Nationwide crime is at historic lows, people are more educated than ever (scary, considering the vocal idiots out there, but true), divorce rates are fairly stable (possibly even declining). The only number that seems to be going up is children out of wedlock, and it's hard to see how homosexual relationships effects that one that much. So what is the problem, exactly?


Penises touching buttholes.
 
2012-11-18 07:21:58 PM

theteacher: Penises touching buttholes.


super-genius.org
 
2012-11-18 07:26:50 PM
"Pandora's box of human sexuality"

Yeah! Sexual immorality is eroding America!

"The American girl is well acquainted with her body's seductive capacity. She knows it lies in the face, and in expressive eyes, and thirsty lips. She knows seductiveness lies in the round breasts, the full buttocks, and in the shapely thighs, sleek legs-and she shows all this and does not hide it." -- Sayyid Qutb

Just ask that guy!

/he was also of a conservative bent
 
2012-11-18 07:27:49 PM
As a gay man, I would like to apologize. Like Pandora, I foolishly opened that proverbial box by choosing to be gay and unleashed my evil upon the world. I didn't know that my being different and asking to be treated as an equal would create such "dependence and dysfunction" as Mr. Fairman states. Worse, I have apparently "bent my knee to Baal", which I can only assume is some Satanic sex euphemism.

Please, forgive me. I'll return to the closet and marry a woman. We'll both pretend to be happy and have the requisite 2.5 children who will in no way be miserable in what is objectively the ideal home.

If only I had known before. If only I had known. 
 
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