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(American Thinker)   "Perhaps most abusive to my moral sensibilities has been the near-fifty-year erosion of the family structure and our opening of the Pandora's box of human sexuality -- the latter bearing witness to the evolving social normalization of homosexuality"   ( americanthinker.com) divider line
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2012-11-18 11:52:41 AM  
American "Thinker" is abusive to my intelligence.
 
2012-11-18 11:57:49 AM  
opening of the Pandora's box of human sexuality

Actually, that was opened thousands of years ago, then more recently shoved shut by the morally 'sensible'.
 
2012-11-18 11:59:49 AM  
www.bitlogic.com
 
2012-11-18 12:03:46 PM  
Kills me that Fark sends traffic to this horrific website almost daily.
 
2012-11-18 12:06:34 PM  
Humans were way more free sexually before religion came in and started repressing everything.
 
2012-11-18 12:07:58 PM  
Most abusive in reality was the destruction of community and the evolution of the insular so-called "nuclear family". Much easier for Big Religion to control the education of kids if you bar them from contact with "others".

Not that the marketing of sexuality, especially female sexuality, hasn't done quite a lot of damage, but the allure of pornography and the invasion of pornography into all aspects of the entertainment industry and the marketing industry is enabled by the repression of the religion industry.

So lighten up on the "Presidential exile beside the dark rivers of Babylon" bullsh*t, get over your sordid self-important pious self and read a bit more widely than your fellow right-wingers.
 
2012-11-18 12:17:35 PM  
Someone needs a blow job.

/Not it!
 
2012-11-18 12:22:06 PM  
Every time I read a quote from AT the word "lugubrious" echoes in my mind.
 
2012-11-18 12:23:31 PM  
Times change. You can lead the change. You can follow the change, or you can get the hell out of the way of the change.

But if you stand in its path, you'll get run over.
 
2012-11-18 12:24:25 PM  
You think he's mad now, wait until the 1,000 Years of Darkness starts.

/We're counting on you, Obama!
 
2012-11-18 12:26:08 PM  
[Control-F] "divorce"

Another "family structure" asshole with no explanation or solution for the almost 50% divorce rate in America.

Sanctity of (heterosexual) marriage, my ass...
 
2012-11-18 12:34:41 PM  
I have found the only people truly offended by homosexuals are repressed homosexuals, directing their inner hatred outward.

Come on out of the closet, you'll feel much better.
 
2012-11-18 12:40:12 PM  
Which amendment is it again that gives us the right not to have our moral sensibilities abused?
 
2012-11-18 12:47:51 PM  
FTFA: "I am a relic of an age that is rapidly becoming a distant memory for some and an impossible fiction for most. And while I am only in my mid-fifties chronologically, culture-wise I am on the leeward side of a great divide..."

I'm in the same age range and I've managed to cope. Dude, maybe the problem is you.

/Now I have to go adopt a kitten to make up for clicking an American Stinker link.
 
2012-11-18 12:50:58 PM  

MrBallou: FTFA: "I am a relic of an age that is rapidly becoming a distant memory for some and an impossible fiction for most. And while I am only in my mid-fifties chronologically, culture-wise I am on the leeward side of a great divide..."

I'm in the same age range and I've managed to cope. Dude, maybe the problem is you.

/Now I have to go adopt a kitten to make up for clicking an American Stinker link.


Some people shape the times they live in, but time simply passes by the others. Guess which category American Thinker is in.
 
2012-11-18 01:33:43 PM  
"My bigotry is becoming less acceptable. Wahhhh!"
 
2012-11-18 01:45:49 PM  

SilentStrider: Times change. You can lead the change. You can follow the change, or you can get the hell out of the way of the change. But if you stand in its path, you'll get run over.


I initially read that as "You can lead the charge. You can follow the charge, or you can get the hell out of the way of the charge."

Marcus Aurelius: I have found the only people truly offended by homosexuals are repressed homosexuals, directing their inner hatred outward.


There's the old joke that "The war between the sexes will never be won, because it's so much fun fraternizing with the enemy." I wonder if this might illuminate why the Religious Right have so much trouble winning the war against homosexuality.
 
2012-11-18 02:10:43 PM  
What offends me is you can't expect a bride to come with a decent dowry anymore. Why bother to have more than one wife?
 
2012-11-18 02:34:32 PM  

djkutch: What offends me is you can't expect a bride to come with a decent dowry anymore. Why bother to have more than one wife?


There's no way I'd settle for anything less than a ten-cow woman.
 
2012-11-18 02:37:24 PM  
OK, time for the obligatory American Thinker icon:

farm4.static.flickr.com
 
2012-11-18 02:39:29 PM  
They really shouldn't call themselves "American Thinker" if all their ideas are stupid.
 
2012-11-18 02:40:17 PM  
And, it's none of your business if I want to toss a worthless female newborn on the trash heap.
 
2012-11-18 02:41:46 PM  
Yeah, there were a lot of people who thought considering black people more than 3/5ths of a person or later the mixing of the races were an assault on their moral sensibilities. Outside of some KKK or Neo-Nazi wingnuts, we're not very sympathetic to those views either now. Wah!
 
2012-11-18 02:46:39 PM  
That was a hilarious article.
 
2012-11-18 02:51:35 PM  
He sounds like he'd like Saudi Arabia a lot better.
 
2012-11-18 03:00:57 PM  

themindiswatching: He sounds like he'd like Saudi Arabia a lot better.


Except for all the brown people, I'm sure he would.
 
2012-11-18 03:03:59 PM  
If this is the acceptance that folks love one another and are happy is abusive to your moral sensibilities, and the wholesale destruction of families and communities in the name of a War on Drugs is just fine, and the propping up of dictatorships in the name of political convenience is A-OK, I think that, perhaps, you lack imagination or anything resembling ethical or moral underpinnings...
 
2012-11-18 03:08:32 PM  

NutWrench: They really shouldn't call themselves "American Thinker" if all their ideas are stupid.


Stupid people think. We just tend to ignore them, mock them, or cast them off into a fiery pit.
 
2012-11-18 03:40:57 PM  
Seriously. They should use this stuff to anesthetize people before surgery. The justification of hatred of those that are "different" than the conservative social norm, and the continued persecution of them under the guise of "morality" is sickening and mind numbing.

static.fimfiction.net
 
2012-11-18 03:43:08 PM  

SphericalTime: themindiswatching: He sounds like he'd like Saudi Arabia a lot better.

Except for all the brown people, I'm sure he would.


I got a sawbuck here that says you can find this dude advocating laws to ban "Sharia law".
 
2012-11-18 03:55:37 PM  
Jesus had two dads, one of which should have a seat over there.
 
2012-11-18 03:57:04 PM  
If Fark doesn't link to Stormfront, it shouldn't link to this either.......but of course, no one has to read it. That's the flip side to the coin.

In any event, shoving gays back in the closet, women back into the kitchen, and blacks back into the cotton fields isn't going to magically bring back a time when straight white Christian men ruled the roost. Time marches on, with or without you.
 
2012-11-18 04:28:09 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-18 04:47:23 PM  

Coco LaFemme: If Fark doesn't link to Stormfront, it shouldn't link to this either.......but of course, no one has to read it. That's the flip side to the coin.

In any event, shoving gays back in the closet, women back into the kitchen, and blacks back into the cotton fields isn't going to magically bring back a time when straight white Christian men ruled the roost. Time marches on, with or without you.


Well, I do see that as I post this, only 36 clicks have been sent American Potato's way.

One really good think Fark did was automatically put the website's logo up if it's available. Before, there were a lot of links like this hidden under "Some Guy."
 
2012-11-18 04:48:01 PM  
Ooh, looks like someone at AT bought themselves a shiny new Thesaurus.

FTA: The Body Cult has, I suppose, always been present in American culture to some degree, but our current infatuation with it is an increasingly disturbing aspect of American life. While health is a net good, the fetish that attends it is more indicative of the latent therapeutic narcissism and the paper-thin dogma of eternal youth: a belief that the finite commodity of life can be mastered through technology and that through the relentless procedures of scalpel and supplements, man can beat God at his own game.

So America's Body Cult problem is not obesity on a scale that makes the country the butt of Fat American jokes around the globe but the fact that a few vainglorious types avail themselves of botox and plastic surgery?

Truly your intellect is dizzying.

As we begin anew another four years of Presidential exile beside the dark rivers of Babylon, let us not cease our yearning for the beautiful cause that we hold so deeply within our hearts.

Reality check time, chucklef*ck.

Hate based on ignorance is not now and never will be a "beautiful cause"/

Baal

The Left do not worship Baal, but the Right sure do worship them some Mammon.

See and acknowledge this truth or live in darkness.

I get a sense while reading this that this guy is his own biggest fan of his flowery, overly ornate, laughably absurd, logically invalid prose.
 
2012-11-18 04:53:11 PM  
Pandora Boxx is my favorite drag queen.

newnownext.mtvnimages.com
 
2012-11-18 05:03:21 PM  

vernonFL: Pandora Boxx is my favorite drag queen.

[newnownext.mtvnimages.com image 375x500]


Mitt Romney: Sashay away.
 
2012-11-18 05:07:51 PM  

vernonFL: Pandora Boxx


cdn.hometheaterforum.com

/Hot like a Good Witch LARPing as a Bad Witch.
 
2012-11-18 05:30:55 PM  

vernonFL: Pandora Boxx is my favorite drag queen.

[newnownext.mtvnimages.com image 375x500]


She's pretty cool in person as well. She used to do the annual/biannual University of Rochester drag show and usually got tons of laughter and tips. She's one of the reasons we used to do so well with the straight and fratboy populations too.
 
2012-11-18 05:46:50 PM  
It's sort of cute that our Beamish Boy thinks that just today we're seeing anything new in human sexuality...
 
2012-11-18 05:49:08 PM  

CPT Ethanolic: Kills me that Fark sends traffic to this horrific website almost daily.


Can't Drew just set up a bot that clicks on links and makes him money? Then we could have a "DERP" tab that we never visit, and makes him a fortune, freeing the rest of FARK up for better stuff, like boobies and lolcats.
 
2012-11-18 05:49:19 PM  
New rule: Every time some American thinker idiot gets their drivel linked on Fark, all TotalFarkers get to punch him in the face.
 
2012-11-18 05:50:02 PM  

dahmers love zombie: [i.imgur.com image 500x335]


But I like eating pussy!
 
2012-11-18 05:50:52 PM  
Serious question: What horrible things is society's acceptance supposed to pave the way for? Nationwide crime is at historic lows, people are more educated than ever (scary, considering the vocal idiots out there, but true), divorce rates are fairly stable (possibly even declining). The only number that seems to be going up is children out of wedlock, and it's hard to see how homosexual relationships effects that one that much. So what is the problem, exactly?
 
2012-11-18 05:51:40 PM  
"Perhaps most abusive to my moral sensibilities has been the near-fifty-year erosion of the family structure and our opening of the Pandora's box of human sexuality -- the latter bearing witness to the evolving social normalization of miscegenation"
 
2012-11-18 05:52:36 PM  
Oh. Look. An American Thinker link. What a shock.
 
2012-11-18 05:52:50 PM  

hubiestubert: our Beamish


Maybe he just had a frabjous day and was feeling conflicted about it.
 
2012-11-18 05:53:53 PM  

nmrsnr: Serious question: What horrible things is society's acceptance supposed to pave the way for? Nationwide crime is at historic lows, people are more educated than ever (scary, considering the vocal idiots out there, but true), divorce rates are fairly stable (possibly even declining). The only number that seems to be going up is children out of wedlock, and it's hard to see how homosexual relationships effects that one that much. So what is the problem, exactly?


To the right gays are icky and they don't like most people are not homophobes anymore.
 
2012-11-18 05:54:55 PM  

www.austinchronicle.com

www.mnn.com
cache.gawker.com

 
2012-11-18 05:54:55 PM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Oh. Look. An American Thinker link. What a shock.


I worked with a guy who said he read AT so he could think "independently". He didn't really seem to get the irony of that.
 
2012-11-18 05:55:23 PM  

ToxicMunkee: Humans were way more free sexually before religion came in and started repressing everything.


No kidding. Ancient Romans would ask WTF is wrong with us.

nmrsnr: The only number that seems to be going up is children out of wedlock, and it's hard to see how homosexual relationships effects that one that much.


It's funny, the only factors that seem to be tied to children being born out of wedlock are the availability of contraception/abortion and the comprehensiveness of sexual education in public schools. It sure is amazing how those things could possibly have such an effect...
 
2012-11-18 05:55:42 PM  
Wait till he finds out Jesus was gay and loved little boys!
 
2012-11-18 05:56:11 PM  
Conservative lamenting the acceptance of gays? He's gay. We've seen this movie way too many times. He's jealous that society decided to change the rules after he lost the chance to come out and enjoy himself as a gay man.

/still not going to click an American Derper link
 
2012-11-18 05:56:22 PM  
"The gays and the browns and the children are ruining ___________!"

Said every bigot ever.
 
2012-11-18 05:57:09 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
www.biography.com
upload.wikimedia.org
www.britishbattles.com

These guys opened the Pandora's box of normalized homosexuality a hell of a lot longer than 50 years ago.
 
2012-11-18 05:57:20 PM  

nmrsnr: Serious question: What horrible things is society's acceptance supposed to pave the way for? Nationwide crime is at historic lows, people are more educated than ever (scary, considering the vocal idiots out there, but true), divorce rates are fairly stable (possibly even declining). The only number that seems to be going up is children out of wedlock, and it's hard to see how homosexual relationships effects that one that much. So what is the problem, exactly?


Acceptance of homosexuality, both in a societal and legal sense, strips them of yet another group they could look down on or oppress. Stage 2 is blaming this acceptance for whatever natural disasters happen to coincide chronologically.

Have hope, though, because as these hateful losers die off, their viewpoint tends to die with them. Good riddance.
 
2012-11-18 05:58:53 PM  

clkeagle: ToxicMunkee: Humans were way more free sexually before religion came in and started repressing everything.

No kidding. Ancient Romans would ask WTF is wrong with us.


I blame the War on Saturnalia.
 
2012-11-18 05:59:17 PM  

nmrsnr: Serious question: What horrible things is society's acceptance supposed to pave the way for?


Someone needs to sit them down to an all-week silent film porn festival. Their great-grannies were wildcats, and many apparently nuns.
 
2012-11-18 05:59:24 PM  

St_Francis_P: MrBallou: FTFA: "I am a relic of an age that is rapidly becoming a distant memory for some and an impossible fiction for most. And while I am only in my mid-fifties chronologically, culture-wise I am on the leeward side of a great divide..."

I'm in the same age range and I've managed to cope. Dude, maybe the problem is you.

/Now I have to go adopt a kitten to make up for clicking an American Stinker link.

Some people shape the times they live in, but time simply passes by the others. Guess which category American Thinker is in.


img32.imageshack.us
 
2012-11-18 05:59:40 PM  
American Thinker is neither.
 
2012-11-18 05:59:56 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: I have found the only people truly offended by homosexuals are repressed homosexuals, directing their inner hatred outward.

Come on out of the closet, you'll feel much better.


And racists are secretly black? And sexists are secretly women?
No, the overwhelming majority of anti-gay bigots aren't actually gay; the handful of examples of bigots being brought out of the closet are far outnumbered by the rest of them; you think you're being a good liberal and insulting social conservatives when you say that they're closeted gay people, but what you're really doing is insulting gay people.
 
2012-11-18 06:00:30 PM  
Wow. It's sad that growing old is like that for him. But I guess that I feel differently because we won.
The change I fought for in the sixties has had a tough uphill climb (especially with the 80% of my generation who are assholes in the way), but the young people I see today make my heart swell with pride. Their indifference to the hateful, archaic obsessions that bedevil this wretched man, and their determination to take the world in newer, better directions give me a sense of peace and contentment - contentment that I am leaving this world in better hands.
It must really suck to be him.
 
2012-11-18 06:00:59 PM  
i46.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-18 06:01:05 PM  
Ugh, now I feel bad making that macro... it certainly applies to the AT, but it's kind of sad in the context of that handicapped person...

/meh
//I'll get over it
 
2012-11-18 06:01:17 PM  

CPT Ethanolic: Kills me that Fark sends traffic to this horrific website almost daily.


I'd be curious to how many people even click on the link. Heck, wouldn't mind seeing stats for all the major sites. Click rate comparison, especially vs. number of clicks for the related discussion.
 
2012-11-18 06:01:56 PM  
Suck it you pathetic bigots. The world is changing and you can't do shiat to stop it. At best you can slow it down, and be exposed for the horrible human beings you are in the process.
 
2012-11-18 06:02:47 PM  

clkeagle: No kidding. Ancient Romans would ask WTF is wrong with us.


Hell, the British didn't know WTF was wrong with us, so they kicked us out.
 
2012-11-18 06:04:20 PM  
I'm not too worried about it, and, indeed, would hesitate to ascribe the characteristics of permanence to a novel situation.

Eventually, society will come to its sense, the current proponents of the normalization of homosexuality will move onto some other social fad they can rally around, and use to re-affirm their virtue while taking out their anxieties and insecurities on their opponents, and the nation will eventually introduce proper regulation governing homosexuals and their activities.
 
2012-11-18 06:05:58 PM  

quatchi: clkeagle: ToxicMunkee: Humans were way more free sexually before religion came in and started repressing everything.

No kidding. Ancient Romans would ask WTF is wrong with us.

I blame the War on Saturnalia.


Well, in all fairness, Romans used to skullfark their wounded enemies too. And hop on the stone decorative phalli to get off. So I'm not sure we really want to use them as a comparison.
 
2012-11-18 06:06:31 PM  

Corvus: To the right gays are icky and they don't like most people are not homophobes anymore.


born_yesterday: Acceptance of homosexuality, both in a societal and legal sense, strips them of yet another group they could look down on or oppress. Stage 2 is blaming this acceptance for whatever natural disasters happen to coincide chronologically.


While this might be what's actually going on, they don't say "I don't like the homogays because I'm an easily frightened bigot who needs to feel superior to somebody dammit." They make the claim that it "undermines the social fabric of society." What I'm curious about is, in what way? What do they *imagine* the effects are, or do they just have a nebulous fear that it will cause some undefined badness?

clkeagle: It's funny, the only factors that seem to be tied to children being born out of wedlock are the availability of contraception/abortion and the comprehensiveness of sexual education in public schools. It sure is amazing how those things could possibly have such an effect...


Yeah, abstinence only education is a terrible thing.phantom
 
2012-11-18 06:07:11 PM  
Homosexuality is widespread among animals.

Some species are all hermaphrodites. Some species change sex depending on environment.

Female hyenas all have penises.

There is a species of worm (osedax) that lives off of whale bones on the ocean floor. The female worm grows "roots" into the bone to eat it. The male osedax worm is microscopic and lives in the blood of the female.

So you can take your "homosexuality isn't natural" argument and blow it out your ass. Nature is way more diverse than just homosexuality. Hell a dog will hump anything it can get ahold of. Cue the pic of the dog banging the large goose.

All that is natural, created by your God.

Let homosexuals be free and equal.
 
2012-11-18 06:07:50 PM  

nmrsnr: Yeah, abstinence only education is a terrible thing.phantom


Sorry, that was a search for "phantom of the opera" that got in the wrong window.
 
2012-11-18 06:09:16 PM  

DeltaPunch: Ugh, now I feel bad making that macro... it certainly applies to the AT, but it's kind of sad in the context of that handicapped person...

/meh
//I'll get over it


You should feel bad, you're a piece of sh*t
 
2012-11-18 06:09:45 PM  

vernonFL: Pandora Boxx is my favorite drag queen.

[newnownext.mtvnimages.com image 375x500]


That's a man, baby!

/yes, yes it is.
 
2012-11-18 06:10:09 PM  
fta The federal government, in its relentless attempts to equalize the unequal,

ftp We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,

See? The farking government has been pulling this shiat for over 230 years. I'm glad somebody is finally calling them on it.
 
2012-11-18 06:10:19 PM  
I don't like peanut butter, I hate the smell - I'd never dream of telling other people not to eat it.
 
2012-11-18 06:10:36 PM  

nmrsnr: nmrsnr: Yeah, abstinence only education is a terrible thing.phantom

Sorry, that was a search for "phantom of the opera" that got in the wrong window.


That's a delightfully weird thing to have happened.
 
2012-11-18 06:12:21 PM  
Perhaps most abusive of my moral sensibilities is that the party that believes that we should deregulate business and industry seems to believe that we should instead regulate individual's bedrooms and bodies.
 
2012-11-18 06:13:06 PM  

nmrsnr: Serious question: What horrible things is society's acceptance supposed to pave the way for?


Nate Silver comes out:

http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/3-it-doesnt-matter-nate-silver-is -gay-it-matters-america-knows-he-is/politics/2012/11/18/54038

The homosexualists strike again!
 
2012-11-18 06:13:08 PM  

Bob_Laublaw: djkutch: What offends me is you can't expect a bride to come with a decent dowry anymore. Why bother to have more than one wife?

There's no way I'd settle for anything less than a ten-cow woman.


Mahana, you ugly, get out of that tree!
 
2012-11-18 06:13:26 PM  
Quick show of hands: Who likes Nickelback?
 
2012-11-18 06:14:06 PM  
whatwouldjackdo.net
 
2012-11-18 06:14:07 PM  

nmrsnr: Corvus: To the right gays are icky and they don't like most people are not homophobes anymore.

born_yesterday: Acceptance of homosexuality, both in a societal and legal sense, strips them of yet another group they could look down on or oppress. Stage 2 is blaming this acceptance for whatever natural disasters happen to coincide chronologically.

While this might be what's actually going on, they don't say "I don't like the homogays because I'm an easily frightened bigot who needs to feel superior to somebody dammit." They make the claim that it "undermines the social fabric of society." What I'm curious about is, in what way? What do they *imagine* the effects are, or do they just have a nebulous fear that it will cause some undefined badness?


Right wing retards virtually never have anything to back up their ridiculous nonsense, be it social policy, economics, foreign policy, whatever. They live in an echo chamber bubble universe, where if they lie enough it becomes true, with or without facts to back it up. Why do you expect this to be any different?
 
2012-11-18 06:14:37 PM  

North_Central_Positronics: [Control-F] "divorce"

Another "family structure" asshole with no explanation or solution for the almost 50% divorce rate in America.

Sanctity of (heterosexual) marriage, my ass...


It's kind of a paradox that has to be explained somehow. There are only two ways a marriage can end: death or divorce. There is no third way. So either the two parties are totally compatible and stay married...or they don't. The idea that perhaps in times past more marriages were bad and people had to suffer with awful marriages until somebody died and now they don't and that is a GOOD thing is just too difficult for these kind of people to handle; so they come up with alternate explanations for reasons that a 50% divorce rate is a sign of an unraveling society.

How it should be explained is that 50% of relationships are bad and shouldn't have gone all the way to marriage in the first place, or something like that, and then we wouldn't have such a high divorce rate; but these folks are wedded, so to speak, to the concept that everyone should get married and stay married.
 
2012-11-18 06:15:38 PM  

shastacola: nmrsnr: Serious question: What horrible things is society's acceptance supposed to pave the way for?

Nate Silver comes out:

http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/3-it-doesnt-matter-nate-silver-is -gay-it-matters-america-knows-he-is/politics/2012/11/18/54038

The homosexualists strike again!


He's been out for years.
 
2012-11-18 06:18:52 PM  

Kittypie070: [haters.jpg]


God hates figs

img.photobucket.com

Mark 11:12-14 "And on the morrow, when they were come from Bethany, he was hungry: And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not yet. And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever. And his disciples heard it."
 
2012-11-18 06:19:46 PM  
Yea because all the affairs and adultery, straight and gay, shows they really had a grasp on sexuality and the norms they try to force on it.
 
2012-11-18 06:20:47 PM  
"Perhaps most abusive to my moral Victorian sensibilities has been the near-fifty-year erosion continuing change of the average American family structure and our opening of the Pandora's box of human sexuality the rise of women's rights and the right of all adults to engage in consensual sexual acts of their preference -- the latter bearing witness to the evolving social normalization of homosexuality and making it harder for me to stay in the closet."

There, fixed that for ya.
 
2012-11-18 06:21:45 PM  
Maybe he should be blaming the Greeks, they invented democracy AND buttsex. Is there no end to their awesomeness?
 
2012-11-18 06:22:01 PM  

CPT Ethanolic: Kills me that Fark sends traffic to this horrific website almost daily.


I never click on the links. I just read the threads for the lulz cuz I know it's gonna be derp.
 
2012-11-18 06:22:12 PM  

DeltaPunch: Ugh, now I feel bad making that macro... it certainly applies to the AT, but it's kind of sad in the context of that handicapped person...

/meh
//I'll get over it


Don't sweat it - he's probably happier than any of us will ever be.
 
2012-11-18 06:22:29 PM  

nmrsnr: Serious question: What horrible things is society's acceptance supposed to pave the way for? Nationwide crime is at historic lows, people are more educated than ever (scary, considering the vocal idiots out there, but true), divorce rates are fairly stable (possibly even declining). The only number that seems to be going up is children out of wedlock, and it's hard to see how homosexual relationships effects that one that much. So what is the problem, exactly?


As homosexuality is increasingly tolerated, bigots who irrationlly predict the downfall of human civilization are more readily exposed as dishonest and not worthy of trust. Many of these bigots are in positions of authority and derive their income from the trust of members of the public. As they are exposed as dishonest, due to their claims regarding homosexuality being demonstrably falsified, their income and their very livelihoods are threatened. Their desperate and dishonest attacks against homosexuals have become an attempt to retain sufficient relevance to remain solvent.

A similar phenomenon may observed in leaders of gun control advocacy groups.
 
2012-11-18 06:22:58 PM  

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Funny how it's always the fat, old, white guys who are most resistant to change...
 
2012-11-18 06:23:34 PM  
William F. Buckley is dead.

Don't try to write like he did. You just embarrass yourself.
 
2012-11-18 06:24:10 PM  
I wager to guess that they feel the start of this erosion was when a black man could marry white women.
 
2012-11-18 06:24:46 PM  

Farker Soze: Maybe he should be blaming the Greeks, they invented democracy AND buttsex. Is there no end to their awesomeness?


Did they get a patent on that? Because they could be owed a lot of money right now.
 
2012-11-18 06:24:58 PM  

Emposter: Right wing retards virtually never have anything to back up their ridiculous nonsense, be it social policy, economics, foreign policy, whatever. They live in an echo chamber bubble universe, where if they lie enough it becomes true, with or without facts to back it up. Why do you expect this to be any different?


I don't expect them to have facts to back them up. I just start with the assumption that there is some underlying rationale for a broadly held conviction. I understand that no matter what the evidence might show they will continue to be confident in ignorance, but to not even have a reason, no matter how bad, to believe something is so alien to me. I have a hard time believing it, despite the evidence ;).
 
2012-11-18 06:25:54 PM  

Notabunny: Mark 11:12-14 "And on the morrow, when they were come from Bethany, he was hungry: And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not yet. And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever. And his disciples heard it."


Man, Jesus sounds like a total prick.

Jesus: "I'm hungry!"
Disciple: "Uh ... alright Jesus. I guess we can stop and get something to eat. I don't suppose you could maybe Miracle-up some fish or some--"
Jesus: "BAM! Look over there! A fig tree! I lurrrrrve figs, yo! Let's go!"
Disciple: "Yeah, uh Jesus? This isn't the season for fig--"
Jesus: "What do you mean this isn't the season for figs? It's got leaves, doesn't it? Jackass. C'mon! I got a hankering for fiiiiiiiiiiigs!"
Disciples: "right."
[Disciples hurry after Jesus as he runs full-tilt into the weeds to the fig tree.]
Jesus: "AW! WHAT THE FARK! NO FIGS???!!?!?"
Disciple: "Yeah, this is what I was talk--"
Jesus: "THAT'S IT! NEW RULE:

No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever.



YOU GOT ME, GUYS??!?!?"
Disciples: "...right."
 
2012-11-18 06:26:25 PM  

shastacola: nmrsnr: Serious question: What horrible things is society's acceptance supposed to pave the way for?

Nate Silver comes out:

http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/3-it-doesnt-matter-nate-silver-is -gay-it-matters-america-knows-he-is/politics/2012/11/18/54038

The homosexualists strike again!


He was not out before?
 
2012-11-18 06:27:18 PM  
So how, exactly does this development affect the author? Does his obsession with homosexuality make it more difficult for him to suppress his natural desires? If so go find a boyfriend, STFU and GBTW.

If thats not it then mind your own farking business
 
2012-11-18 06:27:30 PM  

clkeagle: [oceanisdeep.files.wordpress.com image 478x360] 

Funny how it's always the fat, old, white guys who are most resistant to change...


I've thought the people relying on false equivalencies are worth a chuckle or two...
 
2012-11-18 06:27:58 PM  

quatchi: Ooh, looks like someone at AT bought themselves a shiny new Thesaurus.

FTA: The Body Cult has, I suppose, always been present in American culture


During the Usenet Spam Wars, there was this one guy on NANAE who always made the most bizarre posts. It was later revealed that his secret was to compose his dumb-as-dirt posts, then run each through a thesaurus, picking word substitutions at random (completely missing the fact that the various words had different nuances), and then vomit the result up into the thread. He called this "high-level English". The guy in TFA here seems to have done something similar.
 
2012-11-18 06:29:05 PM  

quatchi: clkeagle: ToxicMunkee: Humans were way more free sexually before religion came in and started repressing everything.

No kidding. Ancient Romans would ask WTF is wrong with us.

I blame the War on Saturnalia.


Archduke Ferdinand had it coming. Not my fault.
 
2012-11-18 06:29:52 PM  

clkeagle: [oceanisdeep.files.wordpress.com image 478x360] 

Funny how it's always the fat, old, white guys who are most resistant to change...


Or young people enjoying their bodies, and other people's bodies. Almost like they feel better about their beer guts, cellulite, and saggy nutsacks if they know that nobody else is enjoying sex either.
 
2012-11-18 06:31:03 PM  

DamnYankees: That was a hilarious article.


That word-salad gave me a farking headache. I have the impression that they could have just published the fark headline and saved us all a lot of headache.

Of course, the "author is deluding himself into believing that people didn't fark like bunnies in the utopian days of the 50's.
 
2012-11-18 06:31:04 PM  

Dimensio: nmrsnr: Serious question: What horrible things is society's acceptance supposed to pave the way for? Nationwide crime is at historic lows, people are more educated than ever (scary, considering the vocal idiots out there, but true), divorce rates are fairly stable (possibly even declining). The only number that seems to be going up is children out of wedlock, and it's hard to see how homosexual relationships effects that one that much. So what is the problem, exactly?

As homosexuality is increasingly tolerated, bigots who irrationlly predict the downfall of human civilization are more readily exposed as dishonest and not worthy of trust. Many of these bigots are in positions of authority and derive their income from the trust of members of the public. As they are exposed as dishonest, due to their claims regarding homosexuality being demonstrably falsified, their income and their very livelihoods are threatened. Their desperate and dishonest attacks against homosexuals have become an attempt to retain sufficient relevance to remain solvent.

A similar phenomenon may observed in leaders of gun control advocacy groups.


Poor comparison,. Gun grabbers are deluded people who mean well, but fail to grasp the paradox of unintended consequences and the folly of prohibition. Their desire for a safe and peaceful world is rational - the way they think they can achieve it is not.
 
2012-11-18 06:31:53 PM  

Corvus: Vegan Meat Popsicle: Oh. Look. An American Thinker link. What a shock.

I worked with a guy who said he read AT so he could think "independently". He didn't really seem to get the irony of that.


I hope you weren't expecting him to... I sure as Hell wouldn't be holding MY breath.
 
2012-11-18 06:33:45 PM  
Oh, boo hoo. You've never gotten laid and therefore the world is a moral cesspool.

Cry me a river, biatch-writer. And subby, punch yourself in the balls for another AT article.
 
2012-11-18 06:34:03 PM  

Atillathepun: "Perhaps most abusive to my moral sensibilities has been the near-fifty-year erosion of the family structure and our opening of the Pandora's box of human sexuality -- the latter bearing witness to the evolving social normalization of miscegenation"


Scratch off the thin layer of shiny paint and that might not be too far from what he actually believes. A casual stroll through the comment section of any major self-described conservative news site will serve to show that racism and homophobia tend to run in the same package. WND, Fox, I'm looking at you here.
 
2012-11-18 06:34:47 PM  

dennysgod: I wager to guess that they feel the start of this erosion was when a black man could marry white women.


If the supercons I know are any gauge, it was LBJ's "Great Society". Because giving welfare to black women means they didn't need a husband. And thus, every bad thing that ever happened ever? Happened.
 
2012-11-18 06:35:07 PM  

jso2897: Dimensio: nmrsnr: Serious question: What horrible things is society's acceptance supposed to pave the way for? Nationwide crime is at historic lows, people are more educated than ever (scary, considering the vocal idiots out there, but true), divorce rates are fairly stable (possibly even declining). The only number that seems to be going up is children out of wedlock, and it's hard to see how homosexual relationships effects that one that much. So what is the problem, exactly?

As homosexuality is increasingly tolerated, bigots who irrationlly predict the downfall of human civilization are more readily exposed as dishonest and not worthy of trust. Many of these bigots are in positions of authority and derive their income from the trust of members of the public. As they are exposed as dishonest, due to their claims regarding homosexuality being demonstrably falsified, their income and their very livelihoods are threatened. Their desperate and dishonest attacks against homosexuals have become an attempt to retain sufficient relevance to remain solvent.

A similar phenomenon may observed in leaders of gun control advocacy groups.

Poor comparison,. Gun grabbers are deluded people who mean well, but fail to grasp the paradox of unintended consequences and the folly of prohibition. Their desire for a safe and peaceful world is rational - the way they think they can achieve it is not.


Nah. Gun control and gay control aren't about guns or gays, they're about control. Just two sets of people trying to impose their will because guns/gays are icky.
 
2012-11-18 06:36:06 PM  

clkeagle: [oceanisdeep.files.wordpress.com image 478x360] 

Funny how it's always the fat, old, white guys who are most resistant to change...


I'm pretty sure the guy on the right panel is supposed to be an old, fat, black guy.

So it's old, fat guys who are resistant to change; race has nothing to do with it. Though it could be possible that old, fat Asian guys are unusually dynamic, as they are not represented in this cartoon. There is no reason to assume that is the case, but it probably warrants further investigation.
 
2012-11-18 06:38:00 PM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Notabunny: Mark 11:12-14 "And on the morrow, when they were come from Bethany, he was hungry: And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not yet. And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever. And his disciples heard it."

Man, Jesus sounds like a total prick.

Jesus: "I'm hungry!"
Disciple: "Uh ... alright Jesus. I guess we can stop and get something to eat. I don't suppose you could maybe Miracle-up some fish or some--"
Jesus: "BAM! Look over there! A fig tree! I lurrrrrve figs, yo! Let's go!"
Disciple: "Yeah, uh Jesus? This isn't the season for fig--"
Jesus: "What do you mean this isn't the season for figs? It's got leaves, doesn't it? Jackass. C'mon! I got a hankering for fiiiiiiiiiiigs!"
Disciples: "right."
[Disciples hurry after Jesus as he runs full-tilt into the weeds to the fig tree.]
Jesus: "AW! WHAT THE FARK! NO FIGS???!!?!?"
Disciple: "Yeah, this is what I was talk--"
Jesus: "THAT'S IT! NEW RULE:

No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever.

YOU GOT ME, GUYS??!?!?"
Disciples: "...right."


To hear Matthew tell it in 21: 18-20, Jebus hated figs so much he didn't just tell his tag-alongs to go hungry, he smote the tree. Smote it to death! Dude had a temper, I guess. Maybe if just one of those knuckleheads had mentioned that you can make wine from pretty much any fruit there'd have been a little rejoicing. But, no. Which I totally understand. I'd have kept my trap shut, too, if I just watch the son of God blast a tree to death. So now it's "Eat a Newton, go to hell".
 
2012-11-18 06:38:58 PM  

CPT Ethanolic: Kills me that Fark sends traffic to this horrific website almost daily.


Nah - most people never ever click the links. This should be obvious when you read the comments.
 
2012-11-18 06:42:01 PM  
i don't know if I'll be able to sleep tonight worrying about that guys abused moral sensibilities.
 
2012-11-18 06:42:30 PM  

CPT Ethanolic: Kills me that Fark sends traffic to this horrific website almost daily.


people actually click those links?
 
2012-11-18 06:43:30 PM  

r1chard3: i don't know if I'll be able to sleep tonight worrying about that guys abused moral sensibilities.


I can't sleep with the idea of weiners in butts. But not girl butts. Guy butts.
 
2012-11-18 06:44:23 PM  

Farker Soze: jso2897: Dimensio: nmrsnr: Serious question: What horrible things is society's acceptance supposed to pave the way for? Nationwide crime is at historic lows, people are more educated than ever (scary, considering the vocal idiots out there, but true), divorce rates are fairly stable (possibly even declining). The only number that seems to be going up is children out of wedlock, and it's hard to see how homosexual relationships effects that one that much. So what is the problem, exactly?

As homosexuality is increasingly tolerated, bigots who irrationlly predict the downfall of human civilization are more readily exposed as dishonest and not worthy of trust. Many of these bigots are in positions of authority and derive their income from the trust of members of the public. As they are exposed as dishonest, due to their claims regarding homosexuality being demonstrably falsified, their income and their very livelihoods are threatened. Their desperate and dishonest attacks against homosexuals have become an attempt to retain sufficient relevance to remain solvent.

A similar phenomenon may observed in leaders of gun control advocacy groups.

Poor comparison,. Gun grabbers are deluded people who mean well, but fail to grasp the paradox of unintended consequences and the folly of prohibition. Their desire for a safe and peaceful world is rational - the way they think they can achieve it is not.

Nah. Gun control and gay control aren't about guns or gays, they're about control. Just two sets of people trying to impose their will because guns/gays are icky.


Doesn't jibe with my personal experience. I don't really know too many gun grabbers any more, but most of those I have known were just naive and deluded. But that's part of the reason it's gotten to be a pretty rare point of view. People are seeing through it, like they are seeing through the war on drugs.
I don't buy most arguments from equivalency - they are the product of childish and lazy minds.
No, You! is what you hear coming out of the mouth of a five year old. Gay bashers and gun grabbers are both dead wrong - but that doesn't make them the same kind of people.
 
2012-11-18 06:45:17 PM  
American Thinker probably only has a P.O. box, but I really want to send them a phalanx of hookers for Holidays.

//no American Thinker, that was not an attempt to further enflame the War on Xmas
 
2012-11-18 06:45:37 PM  
That's it , I'm starting a "right wing" blog so I can watch the money roll in when Fark send me traffic. The first article will be about the medical fact that gay sex only produce socialist children.
 
2012-11-18 06:45:45 PM  
img715.imageshack.us

"I deny them my essence, Mandrake."
 
2012-11-18 06:48:01 PM  

Hobodeluxe: CPT Ethanolic: Kills me that Fark sends traffic to this horrific website almost daily.

people actually click those links?


As I said before... if you see links from the following sites:

-American Thinker
-NRO
-Breitbart
-Washington Times
-The Daily Caller
-FoxNews
-FoxNation
-WorldNewsDaily
-NewsMax
-Newsbusters
-DrudgeReport
-TownHall
-Investors.com

... and if you think you'll be the Weenerser, please, click the link, copypasta the derp in the thread, and spare us all as well as spare them from ad revenue.
 
2012-11-18 06:49:45 PM  

I had gay sex with the guy that wrote this article.

 
2012-11-18 06:49:49 PM  

talkertopc: That's it , I'm starting a "right wing" blog so I can watch the money roll in when Fark send me traffic. The first article will be about the medical fact that gay sex only produce socialist children.


I dunno, with something that Poe-rific, I might click just to see the comments and/or to advance the cause of allowing the more derp-tastic sites to flourish so that the world can see what charlatans the GOP has become.
 
2012-11-18 06:50:32 PM  

nmrsnr: Serious question: What horrible things is society's acceptance supposed to pave the way for?


Well, RuPaul's Drag Race, for starters.
 
2012-11-18 06:50:55 PM  

coeyagi: Hobodeluxe: CPT Ethanolic: Kills me that Fark sends traffic to this horrific website almost daily.

people actually click those links?

As I said before... if you see links from the following sites:

-American Thinker
-NRO
-Breitbart
-Washington Times
-The Daily Caller
-FoxNews
-FoxNation
-WorldNewsDaily
-NewsMax
-Newsbusters
-DrudgeReport
-TownHall
-Investors.com

... and if you think you'll be the Weenerser, please, click the link, copypasta the derp in the thread, and spare us all as well as spare them from ad revenue.


Sigh. Filters. God damn them.

First person to provide commentary.... we cool, filter?
 
2012-11-18 06:51:52 PM  
Are all conservatives as sexually frustrated, or just this Bozo?
 
2012-11-18 06:51:53 PM  

coeyagi: Hobodeluxe: CPT Ethanolic: Kills me that Fark sends traffic to this horrific website almost daily.

people actually click those links?

As I said before... if you see links from the following sites:

-American Thinker
-NRO
-Breitbart
-Washington Times
-The Daily Caller
-FoxNews
-FoxNation
-WorldNewsDaily
-NewsMax
-Newsbusters
-DrudgeReport
-TownHall
-Investors.com

... and if you think you'll be the Weenerser, please, click the link, copypasta the derp in the thread, and spare us all as well as spare them from ad revenue.


These sites are the reason I pretty much visit Reddit from now on. These aren't rational opinion sites. I'll read those. These are a product of the astroturf media created by the PR machine created by the wealthy to further their narrative.

Why would I embarrass myself by falling for it?
 
2012-11-18 06:52:31 PM  

coeyagi: American Thinker probably only has a P.O. box, but I really want to send them a phalanx of hookers for Holidays.

//no American Thinker, that was not an attempt to further enflame the War on Xmas


I imagine they'd appreciate a simple card

img.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-18 06:52:54 PM  
Here is the thing that I do not get about the whole "make them get back in the closet" section of homophobic retards...do they honestly think there was anything healthy or safe about the tendency before homosexuality became more open, to marry a beard and have gay relations on the downlow, exposing a partner and possibly even offspring to HIV? How could that have possibly been more the more "moral" time in American history? Besides anytime I see a self-righteous moralist preacher talking about how evil the gays are, my knee jerk reaction is "closet case who will be found blowing a stranger in a public restroom." When are we going to get the next wave of Republican moralist morons caught tapping their toes to prove me right? The elections are over...there has to be one or two "secret" partners who did not get flowers on their birthday and are ready to tell all!
 
2012-11-18 06:53:28 PM  

coeyagi: American Thinker probably only has a P.O. box, but I really want to send them a phalanx of hookers for Holidays.

//no American Thinker, that was not an attempt to further enflame the War on Xmas


Hookers come in phalanxes?
 
2012-11-18 06:54:04 PM  

Dimensio: shastacola: nmrsnr: Serious question: What horrible things is society's acceptance supposed to pave the way for?

Nate Silver comes out:

The homosexualists strike again!

He was not out before?


Nate was Out in 2010 according to Out magazine. 

Link
 
2012-11-18 06:54:26 PM  

optional: Funny how it's always the fat, old, white guys who are most resistant to change...

I'm pretty sure the guy on the right panel is supposed to be an old, fat, black guy.

So it's old, fat guys who are resistant to change; race has nothing to do with it. Though it could be possible that old, fat Asian guys are unusually dynamic, as they are not represented in this cartoon. There is no reason to assume that is the case, but it probably warrants further investigation


Hey, I hadn't noticed that before. That makes the cartoon even better. Thanks!
 
2012-11-18 06:55:33 PM  

coeyagi: American Thinker probably only has a P.O. box, but I really want to send them a phalanx of hookers for Holidays.

//no American Thinker, that was not an attempt to further enflame the War on Xmas


Isn't the correct term a Groping of hookers?
 
2012-11-18 06:55:47 PM  

Teresaol31: Here is the thing that I do not get about the whole "make them get back in the closet" section of homophobic retards...do they honestly think there was anything healthy or safe about the tendency before homosexuality became more open, to marry a beard and have gay relations on the downlow, exposing a partner and possibly even offspring to HIV? How could that have possibly been more the more "moral" time in American history? Besides anytime I see a self-righteous moralist preacher talking about how evil the gays are, my knee jerk reaction is "closet case who will be found blowing a stranger in a public restroom." When are we going to get the next wave of Republican moralist morons caught tapping their toes to prove me right? The elections are over...there has to be one or two "secret" partners who did not get flowers on their birthday and are ready to tell all!


Creating shame is the Christian way, or at least, the Catholics perfected it, and the evangelicals don't seem too bothered by it either.

But let's extend this to abortion - shame is way cool there too, and if it were allowed it would create shamed women who have to get an illegal one, assuming of course they were still alive after the procedure to accept such shame.

What an awesome society it would be.
 
2012-11-18 06:57:45 PM  

Gyrfalcon: coeyagi: American Thinker probably only has a P.O. box, but I really want to send them a phalanx of hookers for Holidays.

//no American Thinker, that was not an attempt to further enflame the War on Xmas

Hookers come in phalanxes?


In Greece they do. Although, with austerity measures, I might only be able to send them a platoon or two.
 
2012-11-18 06:58:22 PM  

Gyrfalcon: coeyagi: American Thinker probably only has a P.O. box, but I really want to send them a phalanx of hookers for Holidays.

//no American Thinker, that was not an attempt to further enflame the War on Xmas


Hookers come in phalanxes?


Naw, they just fake it, mostly.

*blink*
 
2012-11-18 07:00:42 PM  
FTFA: "I am a relic of an age that is rapidly becoming a distant memory for some and an impossible fiction for most. And while I am only in my mid-fifties chronologically, culture-wise I am on the leeward side of a great divide..."

Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.
 
2012-11-18 07:03:13 PM  

buckler: During the Usenet Spam Wars, there was this one guy on NANAE who always made the most bizarre posts. It was later revealed that his secret was to compose his dumb-as-dirt posts, then run each through a thesaurus, picking word substitutions at random (completely missing the fact that the various words had different nuances), and then vomit the result up into the thread. He called this "high-level English". The guy in TFA here seems to have done something similar.


Add "a couple of unnecessary trips through google-translate: and I think you're on to something.

I sure as fark hope he doesn't think he's the next Buckley.

I've read Buckley in his prime and while I rarely agreed with him, the man could write.

Unlike this utter waste of bandwidth.
 
2012-11-18 07:06:00 PM  

djkutch: And, it's none of your business if I want to toss a worthless female newborn on the trash heap.


So what's your solution to excess females? Abortion??? INFAMOUS!

/A little Swift for your Sunday evening
 
2012-11-18 07:10:54 PM  

Hunter_Worthington: I've thought the people relying on false equivalencies are worth a chuckle or two...


Yeah, also those people who troll sites with alt logins, too. Fun-nay!
 
2012-11-18 07:12:52 PM  
Then move to Saudi Arabia, you farking bigot.
 
2012-11-18 07:13:00 PM  
i know that this is a hate thread and that i will probably get yelled at but i think there is some truth to this article. families are becoming a thing of the past and that is a huge problem because families are what create human capital. what percentage of children are raise in single mother homes? 40% or something? and they have a huge chance of turn out to be worthless members of society. Its the kind of thing that, through entropy accumulated over generations, can bring down empires.
 
2012-11-18 07:14:57 PM  

GF named my left testicle thundercles: what percentage of children are raise in single mother homes? 40% or something? and they have a huge chance of turn out to be worthless members of society.


The single mothers I know who are doing a fine job of raising their kids respectfully ask you to EABOD and FOAD.
 
2012-11-18 07:15:00 PM  

GF named my left testicle thundercles: i know that this is a hate thread and that i will probably get yelled at but i think there is some truth to this article. families are becoming a thing of the past and that is a huge problem because families are what create human capital. what percentage of children are raise in single mother homes? 40% or something? and they have a huge chance of turn out to be worthless members of society. Its the kind of thing that, through entropy accumulated over generations, can bring down empires.


It's 25%. And families are being eroded by poverty and crime, brought on by a shrinking middle class, which is also brought to you by the party of the asshole writing the article.
 
2012-11-18 07:17:47 PM  

eddiesocket: shastacola: nmrsnr: Serious question: What horrible things is society's acceptance supposed to pave the way for?

Nate Silver comes out:

http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/3-it-doesnt-matter-nate-silver-is -gay-it-matters-america-knows-he-is/politics/2012/11/18/54038

The homosexualists strike again!

He's been out for years.


Heck, he was in the Out 100 a few years ago. Also, I could swear that he's the one who initially brought it up on his blog back in 2008 as a way of fully disclosing any potential biases when writing about Prop 8 projections.
 
2012-11-18 07:19:25 PM  

nmrsnr: Serious question: What horrible things is society's acceptance supposed to pave the way for? Nationwide crime is at historic lows, people are more educated than ever (scary, considering the vocal idiots out there, but true), divorce rates are fairly stable (possibly even declining). The only number that seems to be going up is children out of wedlock, and it's hard to see how homosexual relationships effects that one that much. So what is the problem, exactly?


Penises touching buttholes.
 
2012-11-18 07:21:58 PM  

theteacher: Penises touching buttholes.


super-genius.org
 
2012-11-18 07:26:50 PM  
"Pandora's box of human sexuality"

Yeah! Sexual immorality is eroding America!

"The American girl is well acquainted with her body's seductive capacity. She knows it lies in the face, and in expressive eyes, and thirsty lips. She knows seductiveness lies in the round breasts, the full buttocks, and in the shapely thighs, sleek legs-and she shows all this and does not hide it." -- Sayyid Qutb

Just ask that guy!

/he was also of a conservative bent
 
2012-11-18 07:27:49 PM  
As a gay man, I would like to apologize. Like Pandora, I foolishly opened that proverbial box by choosing to be gay and unleashed my evil upon the world. I didn't know that my being different and asking to be treated as an equal would create such "dependence and dysfunction" as Mr. Fairman states. Worse, I have apparently "bent my knee to Baal", which I can only assume is some Satanic sex euphemism.

Please, forgive me. I'll return to the closet and marry a woman. We'll both pretend to be happy and have the requisite 2.5 children who will in no way be miserable in what is objectively the ideal home.

If only I had known before. If only I had known.
 
2012-11-18 07:28:28 PM  
Another American Thinker article?

i157.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-18 07:29:13 PM  

GF named my left testicle thundercles: i know that this is a hate thread and that i will probably get yelled at but i think there is some truth to this article. families are becoming a thing of the past and that is a huge problem because families are what create human capital. what percentage of children are raise in single mother homes? 40% or something? and they have a huge chance of turn out to be worthless members of society. Its the kind of thing that, through entropy accumulated over generations, can bring down empires.


"Worthless members of society"? By what standard? Crime is at a 40 year low in this country - so apparently, the "worthless people" these dreaded single parent families are turning out are expressing their "worthlessness" in less criminal ways than their more "worthy" predecessors from earlier generations.
I'm thinking that before you start making sweeping generalizations about who is and isn't "worthless', that you consult the teaching of the popular middle eastern prophet, Jesus of Nazareth. He had some pretty choice words for the sort of asshole who sets himself up as a judge of the "worth" of his fellwe human beings.
 
2012-11-18 07:29:13 PM  

Wayne 985: As a gay man, I would like to apologize. Like Pandora, I foolishly opened that proverbial box by choosing to be gay and unleashed my evil upon the world. I didn't know that my being different and asking to be treated as an equal would create such "dependence and dysfunction" as Mr. Fairman states. Worse, I have apparently "bent my knee to Baal", which I can only assume is some Satanic sex euphemism.

Please, forgive me. I'll return to the closet and marry a woman. We'll both pretend to be happy and have the requisite 2.5 children who will in no way be miserable in what is objectively the ideal home.

If only I had known before. If only I had known.


Why do you hate Baby Jesus, Supply Side Jesus and the Wealth Gospel Jesus? WHY!?!?!?!?!
 
2012-11-18 07:30:19 PM  

theorellior: Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.


Marking the first time hearing the expression used in this context. It brings a new dimension.
 
2012-11-18 07:31:09 PM  
i0.kym-cdn.com

Don't look back.
www.pillarofsalt.com
 
2012-11-18 07:32:35 PM  

GF named my left testicle thundercles: i know that this is a hate thread and that i will probably get yelled at but i think there is some truth to this article. families are becoming a thing of the past and that is a huge problem because families are what create human capital. what percentage of children are raise in single mother homes? 40% or something? and they have a huge chance of turn out to be worthless members of society. Its the kind of thing that, through entropy accumulated over generations, can bring down empires.


So be against gay marriage that creates...families?
 
2012-11-18 07:34:31 PM  

Wayne 985: As a gay man, I would like to apologize. Like Pandora, I foolishly opened that proverbial box by choosing to be gay and unleashed my evil upon the world. I didn't know that my being different and asking to be treated as an equal would create such "dependence and dysfunction" as Mr. Fairman states. Worse, I have apparently "bent my knee to Baal", which I can only assume is some Satanic sex euphemism.

Please, forgive me. I'll return to the closet and marry a woman. We'll both pretend to be happy and have the requisite 2.5 children who will in no way be miserable in what is objectively the ideal home.

If only I had known before. If only I had known.


Well, if you're really sorry, this guy can help you out.
 
2012-11-18 07:34:37 PM  

killermartinis: Bob_Laublaw: djkutch: What offends me is you can't expect a bride to come with a decent dowry anymore. Why bother to have more than one wife?

There's no way I'd settle for anything less than a ten-cow woman.

Mahana, you ugly, get out of that tree!


"You marry Mahana??!!!? Johnny Lingo, you're a f*cking MANIAC!!!!11!"
 
2012-11-18 07:35:00 PM  

Wayne 985: As a gay man, I would like to apologize. Like Pandora, I foolishly opened that proverbial box by choosing to be gay and unleashed my evil upon the world. I didn't know that my being different and asking to be treated as an equal would create such "dependence and dysfunction" as Mr. Fairman states. Worse, I have apparently "bent my knee to Baal", which I can only assume is some Satanic sex euphemism.

Please, forgive me. I'll return to the closet and marry a woman. We'll both pretend to be happy and have the requisite 2.5 children who will in no way be miserable in what is objectively the ideal home.

If only I had known before. If only I had known.


You must now offer a cursory anus based apology.

/Mistertique strikes again!
 
2012-11-18 07:35:32 PM  

WorldCitizen: GF named my left testicle thundercles: i know that this is a hate thread and that i will probably get yelled at but i think there is some truth to this article. families are becoming a thing of the past and that is a huge problem because families are what create human capital. what percentage of children are raise in single mother homes? 40% or something? and they have a huge chance of turn out to be worthless members of society. Its the kind of thing that, through entropy accumulated over generations, can bring down empires.

So be against gay marriage that creates...families?


I don't think the poster was arguing anything about gays or their insipid plot to stabilize families by adopting children and providing them with a wonderful, nay, fabulous life, I think the poster just wanted to rail about the decay of society without actually looking at the economic and political factors causing it, which is a pretty worthless (his term) way of pointing out the painfully obvious without advancing the discussion. Kudos!
 
2012-11-18 07:36:49 PM  

jso2897: Crime is at a 40 year low in this country


Demographics and Roe vs Wade causing a dramtic reduction of unwanted children born to poor families had more to do with it. Not to worry though, birth control is also destroying society.
 
2012-11-18 07:37:30 PM  

Bob_Laublaw: Johnny Lingo, you're a f*cking MANIAC!!!!11!"


A Johnny Lingo reference?

[somuchwin]

I love this place. 

Do you have a law blog one could subscribe to?
 
2012-11-18 07:37:33 PM  

WorldCitizen: So be against gay marriage that creates...families?


That's no family. It's a space station!
 
2012-11-18 07:37:52 PM  
I knew a girl at school called Pandora. Never got to see her box, though.
 
2012-11-18 07:38:17 PM  

Hunter_Worthington: Wayne 985: As a gay man, I would like to apologize. Like Pandora, I foolishly opened that proverbial box by choosing to be gay and unleashed my evil upon the world. I didn't know that my being different and asking to be treated as an equal would create such "dependence and dysfunction" as Mr. Fairman states. Worse, I have apparently "bent my knee to Baal", which I can only assume is some Satanic sex euphemism.

Please, forgive me. I'll return to the closet and marry a woman. We'll both pretend to be happy and have the requisite 2.5 children who will in no way be miserable in what is objectively the ideal home.

If only I had known before. If only I had known.

Well, if you're really sorry, this guy can help you out.


And you know it must work, I mean, he's married to a woman and everything.
 
2012-11-18 07:38:22 PM  

neenerist: jso2897: Crime is at a 40 year low in this country

Demographics and Roe vs Wade causing a dramtic reduction of unwanted children born to poor families had more to do with it. Not to worry though, birth control is also destroying society.


I was just remarking to my podiatrist last week about how my feet are always ankle deep in shiat because of the effects on society of birth control.

Why do women need nice skin anyway? Those women are just doing it to impress other women.

Harlots.
 
2012-11-18 07:38:39 PM  
Okay, sure, his ideas are stupid. But his writing style is offensive. He sounds like he ate a Bible and shoved a thesaurus up his ass. Seriously, the style he's trying to ape is out of his reach. He just sounds pompous and dumb.
 
2012-11-18 07:39:47 PM  
Yes, because we should go back to ostracizing, jailing, and killing gays. Farking morans.

The bottom line is that we live in a constitutionally-limited republic. Our Constitution basically says we're all free and equal. What that means to social conservatards is that you may not approve of someone's life choices but so long as those choices don't affect you personally, it's none of your goddamn business.
 
2012-11-18 07:42:23 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: Homosexuality is widespread among animals.

Some species are all hermaphrodites. Some species change sex depending on environment.

Female hyenas all have penises.

There is a species of worm (osedax) that lives off of whale bones on the ocean floor. The female worm grows "roots" into the bone to eat it. The male osedax worm is microscopic and lives in the blood of the female.

So you can take your "homosexuality isn't natural" argument and blow it out your ass. Nature is way more diverse than just homosexuality. Hell a dog will hump anything it can get ahold of. Cue the pic of the dog banging the large goose.

All that is natural, created by your God.

Let homosexuals be free and equal.


I blame my elementary school social studies and late high school government classes for my liberal views on this sort of thing -- We were promised a land where everyone was free to make their own life. Obviously, it has taken us 240+ years since that promise was made, and we still haven't achieved it. But, we inexorably draw closer and closer to it.
 
2012-11-18 07:43:58 PM  
You think straight men would be fine with gay men, since that means less competition for women. And most of them have no problem with lesbians, which makes them supreme hypocrites.

How about you all grow up in regards to sexuality and equality, stop crying about your stupid backwards religion, and live your own lives instead of trying to control everyone else's?
 
2012-11-18 07:44:01 PM  

ekdikeo4: Kumana Wanalaia: Homosexuality is widespread among animals.

Some species are all hermaphrodites. Some species change sex depending on environment.

Female hyenas all have penises.

There is a species of worm (osedax) that lives off of whale bones on the ocean floor. The female worm grows "roots" into the bone to eat it. The male osedax worm is microscopic and lives in the blood of the female.

So you can take your "homosexuality isn't natural" argument and blow it out your ass. Nature is way more diverse than just homosexuality. Hell a dog will hump anything it can get ahold of. Cue the pic of the dog banging the large goose.

All that is natural, created by your God.

Let homosexuals be free and equal.

I blame my elementary school social studies and late high school government classes for my liberal views on this sort of thing -- We were promised a land where everyone was free to make their own life. Obviously, it has taken us 240+ years since that promise was made, and we still haven't achieved it. But, we inexorably draw closer and closer to it.


Thankfully, we have constitutional scholars in the GOP (see also: grifters) who still debate the meaning of such difficult terms like "free" and "equal".
 
2012-11-18 07:47:43 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: You think straight men would be fine with gay men, since that means less competition for women. And most of them have no problem with lesbians


mimg.ugo.com
 
2012-11-18 07:49:10 PM  

WorldCitizen: GF named my left testicle thundercles: i know that this is a hate thread and that i will probably get yelled at but i think there is some truth to this article. families are becoming a thing of the past and that is a huge problem because families are what create human capital. what percentage of children are raise in single mother homes? 40% or something? and they have a huge chance of turn out to be worthless members of society. Its the kind of thing that, through entropy accumulated over generations, can bring down empires.

So be against gay marriage that creates...families?


Pretty much. Folks who WANT to get married are the problem. Obviously. That is the breakdown of the whole thing. People WANTING to get married. Instead we should just force people to get married. You know, for the benefit of their families. For property. A real return to the values of our forefathers. Cash and cows and property...
 
2012-11-18 07:55:59 PM  
Our ways are old, but they are true. Better to fight and acquit ourselves with courage, even in defeat, than acquiesce those blood-bought principles and pass into the horizon, like a drifting constellation in the night sky.

No one is trying to make you acquiesce your principles you self-important bigot. You just can use your principles to infringe on other people's right to live, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
 
2012-11-18 07:59:17 PM  
I thought it was all over when they stopped showing on television Elvis from only the waist up.
 
2012-11-18 08:01:55 PM  

eddiesocket: Marcus Aurelius: I have found the only people truly offended by homosexuals are repressed homosexuals, directing their inner hatred outward.

Come on out of the closet, you'll feel much better.

And racists are secretly black? And sexists are secretly women?
No, the overwhelming majority of anti-gay bigots aren't actually gay; the handful of examples of bigots being brought out of the closet are far outnumbered by the rest of them; you think you're being a good liberal and insulting social conservatives when you say that they're closeted gay people, but what you're really doing is insulting gay people.


That sounds totally ghey.
 
2012-11-18 08:02:41 PM  
Having been of a conservative bent the majority of my life, our grim moral reality has me constantly testing the present age against the sagacious eternal things.


What in the hell does this mean?
 
2012-11-18 08:03:32 PM  

doctor wu: Having been of a conservative bent the majority of my life, our grim moral reality has me constantly testing the present age against the sagacious eternal things.


What in the hell does this mean?


He can't cope with reality.

No, really. That's what that means.
 
2012-11-18 08:04:48 PM  

doctor wu: Having been of a conservative bent the majority of my life, our grim moral reality has me constantly testing the present age against the sagacious eternal things.


What in the hell does this mean?


He feels guilty when he jerks off.
 
2012-11-18 08:05:16 PM  

djkutch: Jesus had two dads, one of which should have a seat over there.


And the other was a bird. Kinky.
 
2012-11-18 08:06:13 PM  

jso2897: Farker Soze: jso2897: Dimensio: nmrsnr: Serious question: What horrible things is society's acceptance supposed to pave the way for? Nationwide crime is at historic lows, people are more educated than ever (scary, considering the vocal idiots out there, but true), divorce rates are fairly stable (possibly even declining). The only number that seems to be going up is children out of wedlock, and it's hard to see how homosexual relationships effects that one that much. So what is the problem, exactly?

As homosexuality is increasingly tolerated, bigots who irrationlly predict the downfall of human civilization are more readily exposed as dishonest and not worthy of trust. Many of these bigots are in positions of authority and derive their income from the trust of members of the public. As they are exposed as dishonest, due to their claims regarding homosexuality being demonstrably falsified, their income and their very livelihoods are threatened. Their desperate and dishonest attacks against homosexuals have become an attempt to retain sufficient relevance to remain solvent.

A similar phenomenon may observed in leaders of gun control advocacy groups.

Poor comparison,. Gun grabbers are deluded people who mean well, but fail to grasp the paradox of unintended consequences and the folly of prohibition. Their desire for a safe and peaceful world is rational - the way they think they can achieve it is not.

Nah. Gun control and gay control aren't about guns or gays, they're about control. Just two sets of people trying to impose their will because guns/gays are icky.

Doesn't jibe with my personal experience. I don't really know too many gun grabbers any more, but most of those I have known were just naive and deluded. But that's part of the reason it's gotten to be a pretty rare point of view. People are seeing through it, like they are seeing through the war on drugs.
I don't buy most arguments from equivalency - they are the product of childish and lazy minds.
No ...


To clarify: I am addressing, and comparing, the leaders of the two movements, not the lesser supporters of the movements.
 
2012-11-18 08:12:20 PM  

coeyagi: -Investors.com


Thank you for not overlooking this one. They are real shiat heads.
 
2012-11-18 08:13:05 PM  
There is no limit to the topics appearing on American Thinker. National security in all its dimensions -- strategic, economic, diplomatic, and military -- is emphasized. The right to exist and the survival of the State of Israel are of great importance to us.


Yeah, when I think of "unlimited topics" those are the first 2 that pop into my mind.
 
2012-11-18 08:14:10 PM  
65-years old and the guy still thinks everyone should be like him because the's the best.

Sounds like he acts 50 years younger than his age.
 
2012-11-18 08:17:22 PM  

North_Central_Positronics: [Control-F] "divorce"

Another "family structure" asshole with no explanation or solution for the almost 50% divorce rate in America.

Sanctity of (heterosexual) marriage, my ass...


Well that is not the fault of everyone. The religious right keep getting divorced at such a high rate they run up the percentage for everyone else.
 
2012-11-18 08:21:22 PM  

optional: clkeagle: [oceanisdeep.files.wordpress.com image 478x360] 

Funny how it's always the fat, old, white guys who are most resistant to change...

I'm pretty sure the guy on the right panel is supposed to be an old, fat, black guy.

So it's old, fat guys who are resistant to change; race has nothing to do with it.


I think it's relevant to the cartoon. Black people opposing gay marriage after interracial marriage was opposed by whites provides the irony.
 
2012-11-18 08:23:16 PM  
FTFA: aberrant forms and opinions

The author asserts that he is isolated from the mainstream, yet insists that he's not the 'aberrant' here.
 
2012-11-18 08:26:22 PM  

Farker Soze: Nah. Gun control and gay control aren't about guns or gays, they're about control. Just two sets of people trying to impose their will because guns/gays are icky.


Remember when all those people in Aurora died because a gay couple walked into a theater?

Me either.
 
2012-11-18 08:27:45 PM  

jso2897: Wow. It's sad that growing old is like that for him. But I guess that I feel differently because we won.
The change I fought for in the sixties has had a tough uphill climb (especially with the 80% of my generation who are assholes in the way), but the young people I see today make my heart swell with pride. Their indifference to the hateful, archaic obsessions that bedevil this wretched man, and their determination to take the world in newer, better directions give me a sense of peace and contentment - contentment that I am leaving this world in better hands.
It must really suck to be him.


Folks like you were the role models I was given during my childhood. Gotta say, that's probably some of the best role models humankind has sprung up. :)
 
2012-11-18 08:29:24 PM  

jso2897: GF named my left testicle thundercles: i know that this is a hate thread and that i will probably get yelled at but i think there is some truth to this article. families are becoming a thing of the past and that is a huge problem because families are what create human capital. what percentage of children are raise in single mother homes? 40% or something? and they have a huge chance of turn out to be worthless members of society. Its the kind of thing that, through entropy accumulated over generations, can bring down empires.

"Worthless members of society"? By what standard? Crime is at a 40 year low in this country - so apparently, the "worthless people" these dreaded single parent families are turning out are expressing their "worthlessness" in less criminal ways than their more "worthy" predecessors from earlier generations.
I'm thinking that before you start making sweeping generalizations about who is and isn't "worthless', that you consult the teaching of the popular middle eastern prophet, Jesus of Nazareth. He had some pretty choice words for the sort of asshole who sets himself up as a judge of the "worth" of his fellwe human beings.


Republican logic: everything that improves quality of life is destroying the moral fabric of this country.
 
2012-11-18 08:30:26 PM  
What the fark did I just tried to read?
 
2012-11-18 08:30:58 PM  

themindiswatching: He sounds like he'd like Saudi Arabia a lot better.


Despite what Iamadinnerjacket says, there's healthy gay population in Saudi Arabia

vernonFL: Pandora Boxx is my favorite drag queen.

[newnownext.mtvnimages.com image 375x500]


If you like her, check out Jackie Beat. She's not hot like Pandora, but she's funny as hell.
 
2012-11-18 08:32:40 PM  
The question is why should anyone else give a fark about your 'Moral Sensibilities'? Who are you to define anyone else's Morality? You live to your own and leave the rest of us alone.
 
2012-11-18 08:34:41 PM  

browneye: What the fark did I just tried to read?


The good news is, if you can make sense of this asshat's ramblings, you'll never have a problem following the timecube site again.
 
2012-11-18 08:36:47 PM  

IoSaturnalia: quatchi: clkeagle: ToxicMunkee: Humans were way more free sexually before religion came in and started repressing everything.

No kidding. Ancient Romans would ask WTF is wrong with us.

I blame the War on Saturnalia.

Archduke Ferdinand had it coming. Not my fault.


A likely story but I assume you're sticking to it.
 
2012-11-18 08:36:48 PM  
static.flickr.com

/What a Pandora's box of human sexuality might look like.
 
2012-11-18 08:37:29 PM  

doyner: Farker Soze: Nah. Gun control and gay control aren't about guns or gays, they're about control. Just two sets of people trying to impose their will because guns/gays are icky.

Remember when all those people in Aurora died because a gay couple walked into a theater?

Me either.


Guns, like those aids-ridden gays, kill people. Let's ban them both.
 
2012-11-18 08:39:25 PM  

Hunter_Worthington: I'm not too worried about it, and, indeed, would hesitate to ascribe the characteristics of permanence to a novel situation.

Eventually, society will come to its sense, the current proponents of the normalization of homosexuality miscegenation will move onto some other social fad they can rally around, and use to re-affirm their virtue while taking out their anxieties and insecurities on their opponents, and the nation will eventually introduce proper regulation governing homosexuals the races and their activities.


FTFY, you cock.
 
2012-11-18 08:39:37 PM  

Bob_Laublaw: killermartinis: Bob_Laublaw: djkutch: What offends me is you can't expect a bride to come with a decent dowry anymore. Why bother to have more than one wife?

There's no way I'd settle for anything less than a ten-cow woman.

Mahana, you ugly, get out of that tree!

"You marry Mahana??!!!? Johnny Lingo, you're a f*cking MANIAC!!!!11!"


The one thing that defines the children of mormons: johnny lingo. Still stands as the pinnacle of lds cinema.
 
2012-11-18 08:40:39 PM  
This journey into personal antiquity has taught me that the values and beliefs I hold more dearly than gold are not of themselves dusty and timeworn -- ready for the ashcan of history. In fact, I never cease to be amazed at all manner of people, young and old, who I would have never suspected hold firm and cherish these Old Ways and have not bent their knee to Baal.
 
2012-11-18 08:41:23 PM  

GF named my left testicle thundercles: i know that this is a hate thread and that i will probably get yelled at but i think there is some truth to this article. families are becoming a thing of the past and that is a huge problem because families are what create human capital. what percentage of children are raise in single mother homes? 40% or something? and they have a huge chance of turn out to be worthless members of society. Its the kind of thing that, through entropy accumulated over generations, can bring down empires.


Okay, first of all, you're making claims without any support. 40%? "Huge chance" to be "worthless?" What you're doing is "truthiness" at it's worst.

Second, the topic is gay marriage. How exactly does single parenthood relate to gay marriage? If anything, legal recognition will allow more kids to be raised in stable multi-parent households, not less.

Honestly, I don't intend to be yelling at you in a "hate" thread, but I can't imagine how you think you're making any sense. This is the opposite of sense.
 
2012-11-18 08:43:13 PM  

Dimensio: jso2897: Farker Soze: jso2897: Dimensio: nmrsnr: Serious question: What horrible things is society's acceptance supposed to pave the way for? Nationwide crime is at historic lows, people are more educated than ever (scary, considering the vocal idiots out there, but true), divorce rates are fairly stable (possibly even declining). The only number that seems to be going up is children out of wedlock, and it's hard to see how homosexual relationships effects that one that much. So what is the problem, exactly?

As homosexuality is increasingly tolerated, bigots who irrationlly predict the downfall of human civilization are more readily exposed as dishonest and not worthy of trust. Many of these bigots are in positions of authority and derive their income from the trust of members of the public. As they are exposed as dishonest, due to their claims regarding homosexuality being demonstrably falsified, their income and their very livelihoods are threatened. Their desperate and dishonest attacks against homosexuals have become an attempt to retain sufficient relevance to remain solvent.

A similar phenomenon may observed in leaders of gun control advocacy groups.

Poor comparison,. Gun grabbers are deluded people who mean well, but fail to grasp the paradox of unintended consequences and the folly of prohibition. Their desire for a safe and peaceful world is rational - the way they think they can achieve it is not.

Nah. Gun control and gay control aren't about guns or gays, they're about control. Just two sets of people trying to impose their will because guns/gays are icky.

Doesn't jibe with my personal experience. I don't really know too many gun grabbers any more, but most of those I have known were just naive and deluded. But that's part of the reason it's gotten to be a pretty rare point of view. People are seeing through it, like they are seeing through the war on drugs.
I don't buy most arguments from equivalency - they are the product of childish and lazy ...


Granted - power, of any kind, always attracts the worst of the breed. The exceptions to that are as rare as....well, as rare as great leaders. And they're pretty rare.
 
2012-11-18 08:45:14 PM  
This journey into personal antiquity has taught me that the values and beliefs I hold more dearly than gold are not of themselves dusty and timeworn -- ready for the ashcan of history. In fact, I never cease to be amazed at all manner of people, young and old, who I would have never suspected hold firm and cherish these Old Ways and have not bent their knee to Baal.

This is the the gobbleydegook of a person whose life's perspective has been informed by the mischaracterization of others and a lot of misguided enmity towards people who he has clearly never made an effort to understand.
 
2012-11-18 08:45:57 PM  

PonceAlyosha: /Mistertique strikes again!


yes. even Oglaf is not obscure on Fark.
 
2012-11-18 08:47:41 PM  

rappy: DeltaPunch: Ugh, now I feel bad making that macro... it certainly applies to the AT, but it's kind of sad in the context of that handicapped person...

/meh
//I'll get over it

You should feel bad, you're a piece of sh*t


*tips hat*
 
2012-11-18 08:48:06 PM  
If other animals can engage in homosexual behavior and not be required to go to hell or be blighted from the planet then why do we judge humans? Who the fark really cares who has sex with who? Who really cares who marries who? What business of it is mine? None. Zero. I have no business in any of that. I am a forty something white male. I think from the most reviled demographic out there. I work hard. I accomplish things and I go home. I am not gay but if my co-worker went home to another man as his spouse it would affect me not. Be a fabulous couple. Get the benefits that all married people get. Love is love.

My dad was gay. He liked men. He and my mom divorced when I was 8. He died a few years ago. He never admitted his sexual orientation and he would have been so much happier if he wasn't worried about social stigma and the disappointment he thought I would feel.

Let people marry who they want to marry. "god" has no place in this decision. Love is love. Gender does not matter.
 
2012-11-18 08:48:41 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: PonceAlyosha: /Mistertique strikes again!

yes. even Oglaf is not obscure on Fark.


Mistress! May I splash on your tits?

Make sure you oil up the hot b*tches. They get so dry.
 
2012-11-18 08:49:06 PM  

NutWrench: They really shouldn't call themselves "American Thinker" if all their ideas are stupid.


They're thinking, just not particularly well.

Cheers
 
2012-11-18 08:49:44 PM  
www.sadlyno.com
 
2012-11-18 08:51:19 PM  

North_Central_Positronics: [Control-F] "divorce"

Another "family structure" asshole with no explanation or solution for the almost 50% divorce rate in America.

Sanctity of (heterosexual) marriage, my ass...


The 50% divorce rate is easy to explain : We've created the idea that we are a nation of individuals MORE than a nation of families. We've created a system that supports divorce and doesn't support marriage. Adultery is no longer a crime. No-fault divorce is the law of the land. We now permit women to exit the marriage with their children and a lienhold on male income just for the act of having put their penises in them a long time ago.

Additionally, earning power has crashed, and the expectation of female labor in the workforce has put every possible match and every possible childbearing under the clock of two careers. Since we eliminated class consciousness and revile sex and gender roles, we now are all competing under the same normative goals : Make the most money and have the most personal liberty - wherein husband and wife are set against each other.

I could go on, but ... there you go. And yes, Gay Marriage becomes functionally equivalent under these circumstances. When marriages relied on two discrete, gendered roles that operated orthoganally in the fabric of a community, with the masculine dominant breadwinner and the feminine submissive housekeeper, Social institutions could afford each liberty within their individual domains while respecting the other. Children could be raised in normative environments where they could learn how to be mature, respectful adults.

... that is , if you believe that this worked for everyone - or even a majority. There are reasons to suspect that in fact it never really worked that well for anyone, but its sole comfort was that expectations were clear, and you could strive to meet or surpass them and take pride in doing so.
 
2012-11-18 08:56:37 PM  
So what's the over/under that this guy gets busted with an under-age rent boy?
 
2012-11-18 09:00:43 PM  

killermartinis: Bob_Laublaw: killermartinis: Bob_Laublaw: djkutch: What offends me is you can't expect a bride to come with a decent dowry anymore. Why bother to have more than one wife?

There's no way I'd settle for anything less than a ten-cow woman.

Mahana, you ugly, get out of that tree!

"You marry Mahana??!!!? Johnny Lingo, you're a f*cking MANIAC!!!!11!"

The one thing that defines the children of mormons: johnny lingo. Still stands as the pinnacle of lds cinema.


Here it is: the pinnacle of LDS cinema.
 
2012-11-18 09:01:10 PM  
Everything is a Pandora's Box to these people, they surely love a story about the evils of a woman not knowing her place. But also there is this constant fear of their own monster within. They have to run screaming from anything mentioning evolution because if evolution is true, they have to become murderers and rapists. And if sexuality is not constrained by their familiar rules, they will just have to head to the nearest gay orgy and let loose.
 
2012-11-18 09:03:36 PM  
Let them get married already. Married people tend to lead more stable lifestyles thus tend to make more stable employees- a win for business!
 
2012-11-18 09:03:55 PM  
Perhaps most abusive to my moral sensibilities has been the near-fifty-year erosion of the segregational structure and our opening of the Pandora's box of racial equality -- the latter bearing witness to the evolving social normalization of miscegenation. The federal government, in its relentless attempts to equalize the unequal, has waged a long march in thoroughly democratizing the various races. That it has succeeded only in reaping waves of dependence and dysfunction is beyond credulity to citizens raised in the years prior to the Great Society. Additionally, the absent or defective image of the white leader has regressed the ideal of white leadership into a vestigial appendage that can be supplemented by the State or terminally excised by the interchangeable arrangement of negro rule or other lesser races living in a government-sanctioned state of authority. Indeed, in a longitudinal study of selected cities, two negro-run towns were portrayed as the best candidates to emulate. The source of this study? The Journal of Racial Inegration.

This journey into personal antiquity has taught me that the values and beliefs I hold more dearly than gold are not of themselves dusty and timeworn -- ready for the ashcan of history. In fact, I never cease to be amazed at all manner of people, young and old, who I would have never suspected hold firm and cherish these Old Ways and have not bent their knee to the so-called civil rights movement.
 
2012-11-18 09:08:55 PM  

Gyrony: killermartinis: Bob_Laublaw: killermartinis: Bob_Laublaw: djkutch: What offends me is you can't expect a bride to come with a decent dowry anymore. Why bother to have more than one wife?

There's no way I'd settle for anything less than a ten-cow woman.

Mahana, you ugly, get out of that tree!

"You marry Mahana??!!!? Johnny Lingo, you're a f*cking MANIAC!!!!11!"

The one thing that defines the children of mormons: johnny lingo. Still stands as the pinnacle of lds cinema.

Here it is: the pinnacle of LDS cinema.


You may be my new best friend. I have it on vhs, but it never occurred to me to look for it on youtube! I will now commence poisoning all other message boards that i'm a regular on.
 
2012-11-18 09:09:57 PM  

themindiswatching: Hunter_Worthington: I'm not too worried about it, and, indeed, would hesitate to ascribe the characteristics of permanence to a novel situation.

Eventually, society will come to its sense, the current proponents of the normalization of homosexuality miscegenation will move onto some other social fad they can rally around, and use to re-affirm their virtue while taking out their anxieties and insecurities on their opponents, and the nation will eventually introduce proper regulation governing homosexuals the races and their activities.

FTFY, you cock.


Pity for you, the Mind isn't typing.

Seriously though, don't you people ever get tired of that stale old argument? Come up with something new. Some new jazz, something fresh. Instead of appealing to old arguments, develop something new, something accurate, something that should make you proud you're advocating undermining Western Civilization.
 
2012-11-18 09:11:23 PM  
Perhaps most abusive to my moral sensibilities has been the near-fifty-year erosion of the family structure and our opening of the Pandora's box of human sexuality -- the latter bearing witness to the evolving social normalization of homosexuality



It would be difficult to understate the historical absurdity of this statement.
 
2012-11-18 09:12:03 PM  

rubi_con_man: North_Central_Positronics: [Control-F] "divorce"

Another "family structure" asshole with no explanation or solution for the almost 50% divorce rate in America.

Sanctity of (heterosexual) marriage, my ass...

The 50% divorce rate is easy to explain : We've created the idea that we are a nation of individuals MORE than a nation of families. We've created a system that supports divorce and doesn't support marriage. Adultery is no longer a crime. No-fault divorce is the law of the land. We now permit women to exit the marriage with their children and a lienhold on male income just for the act of having put their penises in them a long time ago.

Additionally, earning power has crashed, and the expectation of female labor in the workforce has put every possible match and every possible childbearing under the clock of two careers. Since we eliminated class consciousness and revile sex and gender roles, we now are all competing under the same normative goals : Make the most money and have the most personal liberty - wherein husband and wife are set against each other.

I could go on, but ... there you go. And yes, Gay Marriage becomes functionally equivalent under these circumstances. When marriages relied on two discrete, gendered roles that operated orthoganally in the fabric of a community, with the masculine dominant breadwinner and the feminine submissive housekeeper, Social institutions could afford each liberty within their individual domains while respecting the other. Children could be raised in normative environments where they could learn how to be mature, respectful adults.

... that is , if you believe that this worked for everyone - or even a majority. There are reasons to suspect that in fact it never really worked that well for anyone, but its sole comfort was that expectations were clear, and you could strive to meet or surpass them and take pride in doing so.


Well, obviously you missed my post up above; which addressed this from the other direction. The idea that divorce is up because of selfish women and changing gender roles is one way of looking at it. Another way is that there are only two ways to terminate a marriage, divorce and death, and formerly, there was only one: Death. So people trapped in a loveless marriage had to stick it out (what you call "normative" and "taking pride in expectations") because they had no socially acceptable options. I suspect the reason the divorce rate is and has been about 50% since divorce became possible is that about 50% of all RELATIONSHIPS have always been bad for one or both parties; and should never have gotten as far as marriage in the first place.

The idea that perhaps divorce is better for both people--male and female--is simply too complex for people stuck on the notion that Family Is All and more to the point, Nuclear Family Is All, that a Family must be a Father, a Mother and Two Kids or else it's somehow not "really" a Family. If things are "different" now, it's only because society allows divorce but refuses to acknowledge that society has also changed, that kids need financial AND emotional stability; while divorce laws insist on pitting parents against each other in terms of child support and visitation rights, as if the kids were nothing more than another possession to be argued over in court.

If people are worried about "families" they need to stop worrying about "divorce" and start thinking more about supporting children in general. Make sure the kids have a place to live, food to eat, schools to go to and friends to play with; and let mommy and daddy figure out what they're going to do without having to stress over all the rest of the crap.
 
2012-11-18 09:12:52 PM  
Cry moar, bigot.
 
2012-11-18 09:13:20 PM  

Jeff73: The Journal of Racial Inegration.


i45.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-18 09:16:36 PM  

Hunter_Worthington: themindiswatching: Hunter_Worthington: I'm not too worried about it, and, indeed, would hesitate to ascribe the characteristics of permanence to a novel situation.

Eventually, society will come to its sense, the current proponents of the normalization of homosexuality miscegenation will move onto some other social fad they can rally around, and use to re-affirm their virtue while taking out their anxieties and insecurities on their opponents, and the nation will eventually introduce proper regulation governing homosexuals the races and their activities.

FTFY, you cock.

Pity for you, the Mind isn't typing.

Seriously though, don't you people ever get tired of that stale old argument? Come up with something new. Some new jazz, something fresh. Instead of appealing to old arguments, develop something new, something accurate, something that should make you proud you're advocating undermining Western Civilization.


Speaking of stale old arguments...
 
2012-11-18 09:16:57 PM  
I'm no saying this to change anyone's mind. How you feel is how you feel and I'm not self-centered enough to think I could persuade anyone. That being said.......

A buddy of mine (who's gay, obviously, or this story would be even more pointless) was just married this past October. While at the ceremony, I didn't notice that two men were up there. I just noticed two people who love each other. This was a decision made by two adults of sound mind. (I also thought that I am never getting married, but that's beside the point).
I remember the day that New York passed the law legalizing gay marriage. My friend was the happiest I've ever seen him. I would never want to deny two people the right to marry. If that's what two consenting adults want to do, so be it. Stay out of other people's lives. If you are opposed to gay marriage, don't get gay married.
 
2012-11-18 09:20:44 PM  

PlatinumDragon: Hunter_Worthington: themindiswatching: Hunter_Worthington: I'm not too worried about it, and, indeed, would hesitate to ascribe the characteristics of permanence to a novel situation.

Eventually, society will come to its sense, the current proponents of the normalization of homosexuality miscegenation will move onto some other social fad they can rally around, and use to re-affirm their virtue while taking out their anxieties and insecurities on their opponents, and the nation will eventually introduce proper regulation governing homosexuals the races and their activities.

FTFY, you cock.

Pity for you, the Mind isn't typing.

Seriously though, don't you people ever get tired of that stale old argument? Come up with something new. Some new jazz, something fresh. Instead of appealing to old arguments, develop something new, something accurate, something that should make you proud you're advocating undermining Western Civilization.

Speaking of stale old arguments...


I Know, right. My other favorite is the absurd "love is love" nonsense.
 
2012-11-18 09:21:45 PM  

Hunter_Worthington: themindiswatching: Hunter_Worthington: I'm not too worried about it, and, indeed, would hesitate to ascribe the characteristics of permanence to a novel situation.

Eventually, society will come to its sense, the current proponents of the normalization of homosexuality miscegenation will move onto some other social fad they can rally around, and use to re-affirm their virtue while taking out their anxieties and insecurities on their opponents, and the nation will eventually introduce proper regulation governing homosexuals the races and their activities.

FTFY, you cock.

Pity for you, the Mind isn't typing.

Seriously though, don't you people ever get tired of that stale old argument? Come up with something new. Some new jazz, something fresh. Instead of appealing to old arguments, develop something new, something accurate, something that should make you proud you're advocating undermining Western Civilization.


Here's something new: you're an asshole who' s still pissed about integration.

No, wait, that is also old news. You win.
 
2012-11-18 09:22:01 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Well, obviously you missed my post up above; which addressed this from the other direction. The idea that divorce is up because of selfish women and changing gender roles is one way of looking at it. Another way is that there are only two ways to terminate a marriage, divorce and death, and formerly, there was only one: Death. So people trapped in a loveless marriage had to stick it out (what you call "normative" and "taking pride in expectations") because they had no socially acceptable options. I suspect the reason the divorce rate is and has been about 50% since divorce became possible is that about 50% of all RELATIONSHIPS have always been bad for one or both parties; and should never have gotten as far as marriage in the first place.

The idea that perhaps divorce is better for both people--male and female--is simply too complex for people stuck on the notion that Family Is All and more to the point, Nuclear Family Is All, that a Family must be a Father, a Mother and Two Kids or else it's somehow not "really" a Family. If things are "different" now, it's only because society allows divorce but refuses to acknowledge that society has also changed, that kids need financial AND emotional stability; while divorce laws insist on pitting parents against each other in terms of child support and visitation rights, as if the kids were nothing more than another possession to be argued over in court.

If people are worried about "families" they need to stop worrying about "divorce" and start thinking more about supporting children in general. Make sure the kids have a place to live, food to eat, schools to go to and friends to play with; and let mommy and daddy figure out what they're going to do without having to stress over all the rest of the crap.


Divorce saved my daughter from being raised to think that relationships are based on mutual dislike and distrust. I loved my wife, but we based a marriage on entirely different expectations, and we refused to acknowledge that, and we wound up despising one another. If we'd stayed together "for the sake of our children" our girl would have been raised up thinking that people despising one another was normal, and it would have scarred her far worse than the divorce did.

What kills me, in the debate on marriage equality, is the idea that other peoples' marriages have anything to do with the validity of your own. That what other churches, or ministries, or folks who don't share someone's faith or any at all, have to do with what goes on in anyone else's.

Your church doesn't want to perform same sex marriages? Doesn't want to grant divorces? That's well and good for you, but that doesn't give license to demand that from any OTHER faith. That's freedom of religion. Free to do as your faith compels you, and allow others to tend to their own. It is a sin in YOUR church? Fantastic. Go with that. Never mind what Unitarians, or Methodists or even Catholics do then.

Don't like it? Don't eat it. But never mind what other people have on their own plates. It worked when we were five, and it still works today...
 
2012-11-18 09:22:41 PM  
Thus, I am as some quaint heirloom that has philosophically and volitionally waded out from the river of popular culture, while residing in the  tenuous  and shallow  eddies of the far banks -- self-arresting my progress  and pausing more to gaze behind me  than afore.

No, dude... You're just an asshole.

Also, maybe American Potato's genius writers haven't realized this yet, but homosexual parenting doesn't lead to the "decline of the father". In the case of two gay men raising a child, it actually doubles the number of fathers. But even beyond the absolute numerical increase of fathers, gay dads challenge the pervasive norms that de-value fatherhood, by casting men in the primary parenting role and emphasizing the importance of men raising children.
 
2012-11-18 09:23:41 PM  
Hunter_Worthington:

10-28-12. Nice shiny new alt. Have fun batting around the troll, boys.
 
2012-11-18 09:25:43 PM  
As some married to someone of another race, I'm glad to know that assholes like this are dying out, quickly.
 
2012-11-18 09:28:15 PM  

Hunter_Worthington: themindiswatching: Hunter_Worthington: I'm not too worried about it, and, indeed, would hesitate to ascribe the characteristics of permanence to a novel situation.

Eventually, society will come to its sense, the current proponents of the normalization of homosexuality miscegenation will move onto some other social fad they can rally around, and use to re-affirm their virtue while taking out their anxieties and insecurities on their opponents, and the nation will eventually introduce proper regulation governing homosexuals the races and their activities.

FTFY, you cock.

Pity for you, the Mind isn't typing.

Seriously though, don't you people ever get tired of that stale old argument? Come up with something new. Some new jazz, something fresh. Instead of appealing to old arguments, develop something new, something accurate, something that should make you proud you're advocating undermining Western Civilization.


The fact that you will perish in about fifteen seconds without that civilization to protect you is a pretty good reason. Weaklings like you are not necessary, and only drag down the race. Let Darwin have his way, say I. See you in the jungle, lunch.
 
2012-11-18 09:28:26 PM  
These idiots are on the wrong side of history and won't be around too long. Now they only have abortion and immigration to rally the extreme right.
 
2012-11-18 09:29:32 PM  
That guy's scribblings are abusive to my literary sensibilities.
 
2012-11-18 09:31:23 PM  
"I do not mean to represent myself as some Luddite antiquarian"

Then you should have stopped writing here.


"...which has the corrupting effect of sandblasting culture free of its philosophical and moral diversity"

You are truly advocating for less philosophical and moral diversity before and after this point. Why is this here?


"The federal government, in its relentless attempts to equalize the unequal"

THE HORROR!


"the absent or defective image of the father has regressed the ideal of the male into a vestigial appendage that can be supplemented by the State or terminally excised by the interchangeable arrangement of two men or two women [in marriage]"

The absent or defective image of the father has regressed the ideal of the male to the point of being terminally excised by the arrangement of two men in marriage.

The broken image of the father has regressed the ideal of the "man" to the point it can be killed by two men getting married.

The image of fatherhood has withered to the point that manliness itself can be killed by two men getting married.

Two men getting married kills fatherhood and, consequently, manliness.

Gays kill men like me. Also, America.
 
2012-11-18 09:31:57 PM  

Farker Soze: Hunter_Worthington: themindiswatching: Hunter_Worthington: I'm not too worried about it, and, indeed, would hesitate to ascribe the characteristics of permanence to a novel situation.

Eventually, society will come to its sense, the current proponents of the normalization of homosexuality miscegenation will move onto some other social fad they can rally around, and use to re-affirm their virtue while taking out their anxieties and insecurities on their opponents, and the nation will eventually introduce proper regulation governing homosexuals the races and their activities.

FTFY, you cock.

Pity for you, the Mind isn't typing.

Seriously though, don't you people ever get tired of that stale old argument? Come up with something new. Some new jazz, something fresh. Instead of appealing to old arguments, develop something new, something accurate, something that should make you proud you're advocating undermining Western Civilization.

Here's something new: you're an asshole who' s still pissed about integration.

No, wait, that is also old news. You win.


Ha-ha. The feeble attempt of a feeble mind. You'd do yourself well to simply move on from the homosexual problem and apply yourself to things more, shall we say, within your capacity. I suggest you start with the perplexing problem of "who did the fork runaway with?" Come back in 18 years when you grow up.

In the meantime, the adults are running things.
 
2012-11-18 09:34:39 PM  

Hunter_Worthington: ...the homosexual problem...


[quizzicaldog]

The problem isn't homosexuals.

It's the people who have a problem with them that are the problem.

/See: Your mirror.
 
2012-11-18 09:34:46 PM  
Jesus Christ, on the importance of family:

31 There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him.
32 And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee.
33 And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren?
34 And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!

Ayn Rand, on stay-at-home mothers:

PLAYBOY: In your opinion, is a woman immoral who chooses to devote herself to home and family instead of a career?
RAND: Not immoral-I would say she is impractical, because a home cannot be a full-time occupation, except when her children are young.

So, it seems that social conservatism's view of a "traditional" nuclear family as the primary social unit doesn't come from their mentors. It comes from Leave it to Beaver.

It's a relevantly new, and distinctly American, concept.
 
2012-11-18 09:37:51 PM  

kg2095: The strange thing is that they target gays to the exclusion of all other alleged abominations. It is written in The Good Book that shellfish are an abomination, so where are the persecutors of those who dare to eat lobster?

Link - God Hates Shrimp


Shellfish doesn't make them feel all funny inside.

No, it's not a biblical thing. That's just an excuse, a rationalization. It's a prudish thing.

I'm living in China, and you get the same kind of stuff here. It's immoral, it's unnatural, blah blah.
 
2012-11-18 09:39:02 PM  

quatchi: /See: Your mirror.


Oh come on, you really think he believes this? :P
 
2012-11-18 09:39:35 PM  

quatchi: Hunter_Worthington: ...the homosexual problem...

[quizzicaldog]

The problem isn't homosexuals.

It's the people who have a problem with them that are the problem.

/See: Your mirror.


Really? I'd be interested in hearing his answer to the homosexual problem. What's the final solution to the homosexual problem, as it were. Surely, there must be one, as all problems have a final solution, right?
 
2012-11-18 09:41:39 PM  
Maybe he should try using moral rationality, rather than moral sensibility. I rarely act on what i "feel" is right.
 
2012-11-18 09:41:40 PM  
This thread is queer.
 
2012-11-18 09:42:43 PM  

RyogaM: quatchi: Hunter_Worthington: ...the homosexual problem...

[quizzicaldog]

The problem isn't homosexuals.

It's the people who have a problem with them that are the problem.

/See: Your mirror.

Really? I'd be interested in hearing his answer to the homosexual problem. What's the final solution to the homosexual problem, as it were. Surely, there must be one, as all problems have a final solution, right?


I had a modest proposal in mind, but I realized that about half of all homosexuals already eat each other.

Of course, it's the 50% that straight men typically don't have a problem with.
 
2012-11-18 09:44:10 PM  

Massa Damnata: Maybe he should try using moral rationality, rather than moral sensibility. I rarely act on what i "feel" is right.


The vast majority of people do. Rationality is typically only used to rationalize.
 
2012-11-18 09:44:46 PM  

kg2095: Hunter_Worthington: PlatinumDragon: Hunter_Worthington: themindiswatching: Hunter_Worthington: I'm not too worried about it, and, indeed, would hesitate to ascribe the characteristics of permanence to a novel situation.

Eventually, society will come to its sense, the current proponents of the normalization of homosexuality miscegenation will move onto some other social fad they can rally around, and use to re-affirm their virtue while taking out their anxieties and insecurities on their opponents, and the nation will eventually introduce proper regulation governing homosexuals the races and their activities.

FTFY, you cock.

Pity for you, the Mind isn't typing.

Seriously though, don't you people ever get tired of that stale old argument? Come up with something new. Some new jazz, something fresh. Instead of appealing to old arguments, develop something new, something accurate, something that should make you proud you're advocating undermining Western Civilization.

Speaking of stale old arguments...

I Know, right. My other favorite is the absurd "love is love" nonsense.

Yeah, and what about that bigoted hatred is bigoted hatred codswallop?


Serious? I don't think the proponents are bigoted, or full of hatred, I think they're well-intended yet misguided, while lacking the ability to think about the future. they'll cause some trouble in the short term, but in the long run, everything will come back to normal.

quatchi: Hunter_Worthington: ...the homosexual problem...

[quizzicaldog]

The problem isn't homosexuals.

It's the people who have a problem with them that are the problem.

/See: Your mirror.


If the homosexuals weren't agitating for "rights" (they really mean privileges, but that's another topic) they have no business possessing, there wouldn't be any problems.
 
2012-11-18 09:45:46 PM  

Hunter_Worthington: Farker Soze: Hunter_Worthington: themindiswatching: Hunter_Worthington: I'm not too worried about it, and, indeed, would hesitate to ascribe the characteristics of permanence to a novel situation.

Eventually, society will come to its sense, the current proponents of the normalization of homosexuality miscegenation will move onto some other social fad they can rally around, and use to re-affirm their virtue while taking out their anxieties and insecurities on their opponents, and the nation will eventually introduce proper regulation governing homosexuals the races and their activities.

FTFY, you cock.

Pity for you, the Mind isn't typing.

Seriously though, don't you people ever get tired of that stale old argument? Come up with something new. Some new jazz, something fresh. Instead of appealing to old arguments, develop something new, something accurate, something that should make you proud you're advocating undermining Western Civilization.

Here's something new: you're an asshole who' s still pissed about integration.

No, wait, that is also old news. You win.

Ha-ha. The feeble attempt of a feeble mind. You'd do yourself well to simply move on from the homosexual problem and apply yourself to things more, shall we say, within your capacity. I suggest you start with the perplexing problem of "who did the fork runaway with?" Come back in 18 years when you grow up.

In the meantime, the adults are running things.


Well hurry back to bed before they find you screwing with the computer!

\and clean your room, Junior
 
2012-11-18 09:46:22 PM  

Hunter_Worthington: If the homosexuals weren't agitating for "rights" (they really mean privileges, but that's another topic) they have no business possessing, there wouldn't be any problems.


If the Christians weren't agitating for "rights" (they really mean privileges, but that's another topic) they have no business possessing, there wouldn't be any problems.

If the Republicans weren't agitating for "rights" (they really mean privileges, but that's another topic) they have no business possessing, there wouldn't be any problems.

If the wizards weren't agitating for "rights" (they really mean privileges, but that's another topic) they have no business possessing, there wouldn't be any problems.
 
2012-11-18 09:48:32 PM  
Hunter_Worthington: themindiswatching: Hunter_Worthington: I'm not too worried about it, and, indeed, would hesitate to ascribe the characteristics of permanence to a novel situation.

Eventually, society will come to its sense, the current proponents of the normalization of homosexuality miscegenation will move onto some other social fad they can rally around, and use to re-affirm their virtue while taking out their anxieties and insecurities on their opponents, and the nation will eventually introduce proper regulation governing homosexuals the races and their activities.

FTFY, you cock.

Pity for you, the Mind isn't typing.

Seriously though, don't you people ever get tired of that stale old argument? Come up with something new. Some new jazz, something fresh. Instead of appealing to old arguments, develop something new, something accurate, something that should make you proud you're advocating undermining Western Civilization.


If you really think that different races intermingling and same-sex couples being treated as human beings and American citizens = "the end of Western Civilization", then you really are farked in the head.

Women being allowed to vote and be treated as equals was also decried as being "the end of Western Civilization". Automobiles were decried as "the end of Western Civilization". Disco was decried as "the end of Western Civilization". Guess what? America is still here. It's still the most free country, despite people like you trying their best to turn it into shiat.

Go back under your shiat-rock and be quiet, troll.
 
2012-11-18 09:48:36 PM  
If everyone would just shudyap and take it in the ass we wouldn't have any problems! waaait a minute...
 
2012-11-18 09:49:45 PM  
In the 1960s I lived for a few years with my grandparents. My grandfather was a professor of sociology, and he had a huge library of social sciences books, which I was allowed to peruse. There were dozens and dozens of books about how moral standards were collapsing in the 1950s, and how homosexuals were starting (in a minimal way) to live in a less concealed manner, and to demand some small rights.

The culture of the 1950s was hugely exaggerated with hysteria about comic books, pool halls, jalopies, the mischief that could happen at sock hops and even ice cream social parties. Boy teens were seen as potential hoodlums, slouching through suburbia in their narrow jeans and leather jackets and hair pomade. Depravity!!

Basically, the guy who wrote TFA is full of shiat. The 50s and 60s were not some Golden Age, they had lots of problems. He should watch "Blackboard Jungle" sometime, or the movie "Naked City", or some more film noir. It was all quite sinister.
 
2012-11-18 09:50:14 PM  

Hunter_Worthington: kg2095: Hunter_Worthington: PlatinumDragon: Hunter_Worthington: themindiswatching: Hunter_Worthington: I'm not too worried about it, and, indeed, would hesitate to ascribe the characteristics of permanence to a novel situation.

Eventually, society will come to its sense, the current proponents of the normalization of homosexuality miscegenation will move onto some other social fad they can rally around, and use to re-affirm their virtue while taking out their anxieties and insecurities on their opponents, and the nation will eventually introduce proper regulation governing homosexuals the races and their activities.

FTFY, you cock.

Pity for you, the Mind isn't typing.

Seriously though, don't you people ever get tired of that stale old argument? Come up with something new. Some new jazz, something fresh. Instead of appealing to old arguments, develop something new, something accurate, something that should make you proud you're advocating undermining Western Civilization.

Speaking of stale old arguments...

I Know, right. My other favorite is the absurd "love is love" nonsense.

Yeah, and what about that bigoted hatred is bigoted hatred codswallop?

Serious? I don't think the proponents are bigoted, or full of hatred, I think they're well-intended yet misguided, while lacking the ability to think about the future. they'll cause some trouble in the short term, but in the long run, everything will come back to normal.

quatchi: Hunter_Worthington: ...the homosexual problem...

[quizzicaldog]

The problem isn't homosexuals.

It's the people who have a problem with them that are the problem.

/See: Your mirror.

If the homosexuals weren't agitating for "rights" (they really mean privileges, but that's another topic) they have no business possessing, there wouldn't be any problems.


Equal protection under the law is a privilege? Or you just think queer people and relationships are worth less than Kim Kardashian's publicity stunt?
 
2012-11-18 09:50:40 PM  

Hunter_Worthington: If the homosexuals weren't agitating for "rights" (they really mean privileges, but that's another topic) they have no business possessing, there wouldn't be any problems.


So, how do you get these homosexuals to learn their place?
 
2012-11-18 09:50:50 PM  
I blame greed for the for downfall of America some gay people are greedy so I'll give the author "mostly true" on my new website, unskewedfacts.com.
 
2012-11-18 09:51:12 PM  

clkeagle: Funny how it's always the fat, old, white guys who are most resistant to change...


Hey, that's an insult to the fat old white guy community. Besides, the guys you want are the old money sherry-swilling yacht monkeys.
 
2012-11-18 09:51:36 PM  
Ignatious, is that you? How's that valve been treating you?
 
2012-11-18 09:51:38 PM  
Since when do conservatives give a fark about erosion? I thought that was hippy dippy environmental shiat.
 
2012-11-18 09:56:47 PM  
ok so people jumped on me like i expected. just so you know i am not registered for a political party and i tend to vote for different parties every few years. someone asked for some stats on the breakdown of families and the problems involved so heres a website (LINK) that has some good stuff. and also for the record i am not against gays marrying or what ever they want. sorry if i unintentionally portrayed myself that way.
 
2012-11-18 09:57:14 PM  

Coelacanth: old money sherry-swilling yacht monkeys


Difficult to say three times fast.
 
2012-11-18 09:59:01 PM  
My ma used to brag about how I could tell someone to go to Hell and that person would need to read the dictionary to figure out that I'd told them where to go. Now, she was of course overstating it, and she never had the class to tell me this to my face, but, like, whatever. That was her opinion, man.

I still have a paperback thesaurus I bought when I was in high school. Damned nifty thing. Everyone should have one, plus The Elements of Style, by Strunk & White.

I am not sure if I really want to click on the farticle link, but from what quotes I've read in the thread it seems this overclocked howler monkey has simultaneously jackhammered both a 1913 Oxford Dictionary [remember those giant 40-pound hardbound behemoths??] and a large hardback thesaurus so far up its ass that it's tasting bookbinder's glue in the back of its throat.
 
2012-11-18 10:02:56 PM  

Fluorescent Testicle: quatchi: /See: Your mirror.

Oh come on, you really think he believes this? :P


Naw, he's just an alt troll but I'mma playing along fer S&G.

/Shhh! ^_^
 
2012-11-18 10:02:56 PM  
PlatinumDragon:

Equal protection under the law is a privilege?
That isn't the issue here. If you think it is, you might want to get your head checked out.
Or you just think queer people and relationships are worth less than Kim Kardashian's publicity stunt?/i>

Yes.

RyogaM: So, how do you get these homosexuals to learn their place?

Well, we could start by stop pretending their "marriages" are valid. After that, I think a few "health and welfare" inspections of homosexual clubs on suspicions of drug use and "immoral activities" and other areas where they congregate should make their lives uncomfortable. That would be a good start.

Anything to add?
 
2012-11-18 10:04:38 PM  
Pandora's box? Homosexuality? Lilith is heterosexual (and available). Daisy, well, Daisy's dead.
 
2012-11-18 10:06:14 PM  

Hunter_Worthington: If the homosexuals weren't agitating for "rights" (they really mean privileges, but that's another topic) they have no business possessing, there wouldn't be any problems.


Oh I get it. You're confusing privileges aka "special rights" with equal rights.

Bet you feel pretty silly now, eh?

*blink*
 
2012-11-18 10:08:52 PM  

Kittypie070: a large hardback thesaurus


Perhaps a large Bible.
 
2012-11-18 10:08:55 PM  

Hunter_Worthington: PlatinumDragon:

Equal protection under the law is a privilege?
That isn't the issue here. If you think it is, you might want to get your head checked out.
Or you just think queer people and relationships are worth less than Kim Kardashian's publicity stunt?/i>

Yes.


Love how you denied then confirmed that it is about being treated equally. This is America, farknut, where the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and Declaration of Independence all say that "All men are created equal". Not "Only those I think are worthy are equal". For someone who thinks gay people being treated as human beings and equal American citizens means the end of civilization, you don't know jack shiat about the civilization you live in.

RyogaM: So, how do you get these homosexuals to learn their place?

Well, we could start by stop pretending their "marriages" are valid. After that, I think a few "health and welfare" inspections of homosexual clubs on suspicions of drug use and "immoral activities" and other areas where they congregate should make their lives uncomfortable. That would be a good start.

Anything to add?


Straight people do drugs and "immoral activities", too, and many times when they gather in clubs. Is it okay for them to do it because they're straight?
 
2012-11-18 10:11:11 PM  

coyo: Since when do conservatives give a fark about erosion? I thought that was hippy dippy environmental shiat.


What I don't understand is why they value "Western Civilization", as one poster referenced. These people are constrained, and oppressed by civilization. It's leveling effects force them to tolerate and support their inferiors, and sucks away their essence to succor the mediocre. i would think they would prefer to abolish it - and I'm down with that. There is no reason why a superior individual like our poster here needs civilization. He is, after all, a PRODUCER. And all civilization does is force him to live on an equal basis with moochers, parasites, liberals, women, and queers. Why would he value "Western Civilization"?
I have a proposal for these superior individuals - lets get rid of it. Lets just shiatcan the whole thing, and end this injustice. Disband the armies and police forces. Let's tear down the welfare offices, schools, and jails. Let everyone have that most precious of treasures - individual liberty. No more rules, or laws, or cops to enforce them. Just free men, living by their wits, finally free to exhibit he excellence that the mediocrity of "civilization" stifles.
And then, there would be no more doubt. We will find out. Find out who is weak, and who is strong. Find out who is a producer, and who a parasite. Find out who is really normal or abnormal, superior or inferior. Surely, you manly, individualistic Galtian superheroes can build a new world, once all those "inferiors" have been dealt with.
Perhaps they secretly fear that their soft, pale, pudgy little asses would get eaten alive in the first five minutes. But hey - I think it would be worth it just to find out how tough these "superior" individuals really are. and how inferior all these "parasites" they bemoan really aren't.
Sounds like fun, to me.
 
2012-11-18 10:14:41 PM  

quatchi: Hunter_Worthington: If the homosexuals weren't agitating for "rights" (they really mean privileges, but that's another topic) they have no business possessing, there wouldn't be any problems.

Oh I get it. You're confusing privileges aka "special rights" with equal rights.

Bet you feel pretty silly now, eh?

*blink*


You have it completely backwards, but yes, that's the problem.
 
2012-11-18 10:16:10 PM  

sendtodave: Massa Damnata: Maybe he should try using moral rationality, rather than moral sensibility. I rarely act on what i "feel" is right.

The vast majority of people do. Rationality is typically only used to rationalize.


True enough.
 
2012-11-18 10:16:51 PM  

Hunter_Worthington: quatchi: Hunter_Worthington: If the homosexuals weren't agitating for "rights" (they really mean privileges, but that's another topic) they have no business possessing, there wouldn't be any problems.

Oh I get it. You're confusing privileges aka "special rights" with equal rights.

Bet you feel pretty silly now, eh?

*blink*

You have it completely backwards, but yes, that's the problem.


No, the problem is you're a bigoted piece of shiat, with a worldview that was outdated decades ago. That, or a retard who gets his kicks from annoying people on the internet.
 
2012-11-18 10:17:18 PM  
What he really means is:

BURN THE WITCHES! BURN THEM!

FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP

BURN THEM! YES! YYYYEEEEESSSSSS!
 
2012-11-18 10:17:38 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: media2.arabia.msn.com


You sound angry. I think it's bed time. Say "night, night"
 
2012-11-18 10:18:10 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: Women being allowed to vote and be treated as equals was also decried as being "the end of Western Civilization". Automobiles were decried as "the end of Western Civilization". Disco was decried as "the end of Western Civilization". Guess what? America is still here. It's still the most free country, despite people like you trying their best to turn it into shiat.


A pretty good argument could be made for disco, however.
 
2012-11-18 10:18:39 PM  

Hunter_Worthington: RyogaM: So, how do you get these homosexuals to learn their place?

Well, we could start by stop pretending their "marriages" are valid. After that, I think a few "health and welfare" inspections of homosexual clubs on suspicions of drug use and "immoral activities" and other areas where they congregate should make their lives uncomfortable. That would be a good start.

Anything to add?



And you think that will get the homosexuals to quiet down and stop demanding their rights? Pretending that the relationships they cultivate are not valid, and harassing them in public places and private clubs? That will do it, you think? They'll just stop being openly gay and go back in the closet? You do realize you are speaking about grown men and women, fellow Americans and tax payers you are suggesting we should harass, right?

No, whatever. I suggest there is nothing stopping you right now from putting your ingenious plan into action. Go an head on down to the nearest gay bar, or club or whatever, and start letting them know that you personally view their relationships, whether they are married legally or not, as invalid. Bring some friends, and try to enlist the police in finding all that illicit activity. Start your crusade, enlist the Westboro Baptists folks and try to harass all those gays into knowing their place, that you have decided for them.  I'll watch.
 
2012-11-18 10:19:14 PM  
Hunter_Worthington: PlatinumDragon:

Equal protection under the law is a privilege?
That isn't the issue here. If you think it is, you might want to get your head checked out.


It's very much the issue. It certainly was up here when the courts struck down language limiting legal marriage to hetero couples only. We're doing fine. The sky hasn't fallen, society hasn't collapsed upon itself, and children aren't being raped in the streets by gangs of rampaging homos and dykes. Things got better for millions of people. Deal with it.

Or you just think queer people and relationships are worth less than Kim Kardashian's publicity stunt?

Yes.


I'd love to see you try to justify that stance.

RyogaM: So, how do you get these homosexuals to learn their place?

Well, we could start by stop pretending their "marriages" are valid


I could stop pretending you're anything but a troll, but it's so much fun to bat your weak arguments around, like a cat knocks around a toy.
 
2012-11-18 10:19:46 PM  
What in God's name is an "immoral activity"? And who cares what you think? Didn't the concept of "Mind your own business" ever come up when you were being raised? Here's the deal, you can go to church and sing your songs or whatever the hell you do there and I can go to clubs and do whatever the hell I do there. As long as nobody is hurt and it's between consenting adults it's none of my business if you partake in symbolic cannibalism every Sunday but mind your own business. That's not a suggestion, it's a warning. Nosy people frequently get their noses broken.
 
2012-11-18 10:20:03 PM  

RyogaM: Hunter_Worthington:

10-28-12. Nice shiny new alt. Have fun batting around the troll, boys.


No kidding. I thought I remembered this douche from further back. Just some internet dentists new alt then, OK. Well, bye. favorited!.
 
2012-11-18 10:20:13 PM  

GF named my left testicle thundercles: i know that this is a hate thread and that i will probably get yelled at but i think there is some truth to this article. families are becoming a thing of the past and that is a huge problem because families are what create human capital. what percentage of children are raise in single mother homes? 40% or something? and they have a huge chance of turn out to be worthless members of society. Its the kind of thing that, through entropy accumulated over generations, can bring down empires.


What brings down empires is when their societies becomes stratified between the haves and have nots with little chance for social mobility. Those on the bottom rung or those that are separated via being labeled "worthless" make the sound decision to not support "the empire". Why should they support an institution that does nothing for them but oppress them? The Republican party and conservatives in general are engaged in some sort of Reductio ad absurdum in which they are are actually the promulgators of a collapsed American Empire by trying to preserve those very institutions and ideals which would eventually cause it's collapse.. and blaming the left for taking action that actually preserves said empire.

You sir are a snake in a tree.
 
2012-11-18 10:20:29 PM  

Hunter_Worthington: quatchi: Hunter_Worthington: If the homosexuals weren't agitating for "rights" (they really mean privileges, but that's another topic) they have no business possessing, there wouldn't be any problems.

Oh I get it. You're confusing privileges aka "special rights" with equal rights.

Bet you feel pretty silly now, eh?

*blink*

You have it completely backwards, but yes, that's the problem.


OR PERHAPS THE PROBLEM IS IT"S OWN PROBLEM

The Taste of Banzo's Sword

Matajuro Yagyu was the son of a famous swordsman. His father, believing that his son's work was too mediocre to anticipate mastership, disowned him.

So Matajuro went to Mount Futara and there found the famous swordsman Banzo. But Banzo confirmed the father's judgment. "You wish to learn swordsmanship under my guidance?" asked Banzo. "You cannot fulfill the requirements."

"But if I work hard, how many years will it take me to become a master?" persisted the youth.

"The rest of your life," replied Banzo.

"I cannot wait that long," explained Matajuro. "I am willing to pass through any hardship if only you will teach me. If I become your devoted servant, how long might it be?"

"Oh, maybe ten years," Banzo relented.

"My father is getting old, and soon I must take care of him," continued Matajuro. "If I work far more intensively, how long would it take me?"

"Oh, maybe thirty years," said Banzo.

"Why is that?" asked Matajuro. "First you say ten and now thirty years. I will undergo any hardship to master this art in the shortest time!"

"Well," said Banzo, "in that case you will have to remain with me for seventy years. A man in such a hurry as you are to get results seldom learns quickly."

"Very well," declared the youth, understanding at last that he was being rebuked for impatience, "I agree."

Matajuro was told never to speak of fencing and never to touch a sword. He cooked for his master, washed the dishes, made his bed, cleaned the yard, cared for the garden, all without a word of swordsmanship.

Three years passed. Still Matajuro labored on. Thinking of his future, he was sad. He had not even begun to learn the art to which he had devoted his life.

But one day Banzo crept up behind him and gave him a terrific blow with a wooden sword.

The following day, when Matajuro was cooking rice, Banzo again sprang upon him unexpectedly.

After that, day and night, Matajuro had to defend himself from unexpected thrusts. Not a moment passed in any day that he did not have to think of the taste of Banzo's sword.

He learned so rapidly he brought smiles to the face of his master. Matajuro became the greatest swordsman in the land.