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(STLToday)   While you were sleeping late somebody blew up the bridge carrying I-70 over the Missouri River. Monday's commute may be a little slow   (stltoday.com) divider line 57
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2012-11-18 03:42:21 PM
Yes. All according to plan.

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2012-11-18 05:32:39 PM
In other words...


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DA BRIDGE IZ OUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUWWWWWWWWWWWWWWT AHRAHRBWAHRHGHEARUGHRAGHGH
 
2012-11-18 06:09:47 PM
Are you sure this wasn't Florida?
 
2012-11-18 06:13:07 PM
Dear Rest of the country :

Most of the northeast gets by with four-lane highways.
 
2012-11-18 06:16:55 PM
Weenies!
Here in Minneapolice, we just drop sections of the I-35 into the Mississippi at rush hour for the fun.
 
2012-11-18 06:28:17 PM

snocone: Weenies!
Here in Minneapolice, we just drop sections of the I-35 into the Mississippi at rush hour for the fun.


Wow.

rubi_con_man: Dear Rest of the country :

Most of the northeast gets by with four-lane highways.


Dear Northeast,

The rest of the country doesn't like you. Or your tiny highways.

P.S. We won't even bother to mention how one of our two rivers vastly outsizes all of your rivers put together!
 
zez
2012-11-18 06:33:23 PM
I somehow missed it this morning, I didn't know they were going to do it and I live really close. Good thing they'll have to do it 2 more times to get the rest of it down. Maybe I'll be able to make it to one of those.

Now the old 115 bridge explosion was cool! They took that one down all at once.
 
2012-11-18 06:56:34 PM

rubi_con_man: Dear Rest of the country :

Most of the northeast gets by with four-lane highways.


The only problem is, that bridge takes something like 4/3rds of the cross-river traffic for the whole country.
 
2012-11-18 06:58:37 PM
"We must hold this end - hold until relieved...I think the Poles are coming...."

images3.static-bluray.com
 
2012-11-18 07:06:08 PM

zez: Now the old 115 bridge explosion was cool! They took that one down all at once.


I dropped acid and watched them implode a building once.

/csb
 
2012-11-18 07:07:23 PM
That's one way to keep the people of St. Charles out of St. Louis.

University City here. And just kidding.

Sort of.
 
2012-11-18 07:08:06 PM
Let me know when it includes Texas, Mississippi and Alabama
THEN I WILL PARTY!
 
2012-11-18 07:15:08 PM
Wasn't this supposed to be in the 3rd Atlas Shrugged movie?
 
2012-11-18 07:18:10 PM

D2theMcV: snocone: Weenies!
Here in Minneapolice, we just drop sections of the I-35 into the Mississippi at rush hour for the fun.

Wow.

rubi_con_man: Dear Rest of the country :

Most of the northeast gets by with four-lane highways.

Dear Northeast,

The rest of the country doesn't like you. Or your tiny highways.

P.S. We won't even bother to mention how one of our two rivers vastly outsizes all of your rivers put together!


That's ok, at least when ours flood they aren't the equivalent of spilling a pitcher of water on a pool table. Also we pretty much already figured out most of the places we shouldn't build houses in case of '100 year flood events'.
 
2012-11-18 07:19:59 PM
I should add, the Atlantic Coast is on their own, because for some reason beaches turn off the logic center in some people that controls the desire to have a safe residence.
 
2012-11-18 07:37:17 PM
I guess the 370 bridge is going to become a bit busier.

I remember when growing up in the 70s that St. Peters was way the fark out in the boondocks.
 
2012-11-18 07:37:44 PM

Ready-set: That's one way to keep the people of St. Charles out of St. Louis.

University City here. And just kidding.

Sort of.


It's more like the opposite. :p

Although I will say, traffic has been moving pretty smoothly through that construction zone.
 
2012-11-18 07:39:43 PM
Lovely, and I gotta go to Earth City tomorrow to drop off a package.

/thank jeebus for the page avenue extension...
 
2012-11-18 07:40:24 PM

TheGreatGazoo: I guess the 370 bridge is going to become a bit busier.

I remember when growing up in the 70s that St. Peters was way the fark out in the boondocks.


Both 370 and the Page Avenue Extension (364) have been getting more traffic to try to direct the traffic away from I-70.

Apparently this project is supposed to last for a year so I better get comfy.
 
2012-11-18 07:50:10 PM

snocone: Weenies!
Here in Minneapolice, we just drop sections of the I-35 into the Mississippi at rush hour for the fun.


That's a little cold even for fark.

/and it was hardly a section - it was the whole damn thing
 
2012-11-18 07:59:21 PM

gingerjet: snocone: Weenies!
Here in Minneapolice, we just drop sections of the I-35 into the Mississippi at rush hour for the fun.

That's a little cold even for fark.

/and it was hardly a section - it was the whole damn thing


He typed minneapolice, so it's not like you're dealing with intellectual dynamite.
 
2012-11-18 08:11:23 PM

rubi_con_man: Dear Rest of the country :

Most of the northeast gets by with four-lane highways.


i877.photobucket.com

I'm sorry, can you say that again
Its a little loud around here
 
2012-11-18 08:13:41 PM

Mrtraveler01: TheGreatGazoo: I guess the 370 bridge is going to become a bit busier.

I remember when growing up in the 70s that St. Peters was way the fark out in the boondocks.

Both 370 and the Page Avenue Extension (364) have been getting more traffic to try to direct the traffic away from I-70.

Apparently this project is supposed to last for a year so I better get comfy.


I've been trying to find a decent route to get from Harvester to Boschertown that doesn't take an hour or force myself through 100 stop signs. 370 has been a parking lot in the morning about 4 out of 5 days a week lately. 94 has never improved in the last 16 years (even after widening it and removing some stoplights) I've lived here. Taking 364 to Arena forces me through the parts of St. Charles that I hate because of the old people leaving the casino (it'll probably be tons worse tomorrow because its the last day the Hostess store will be open). There are various other routes to get there that I haven't explored yet. What used to take 30 minutes is now up to an hour.

By the time I get it figured out, it'll be done and over with. But, that's traffic in St. Louis!
 
2012-11-18 08:32:20 PM

D2theMcV: snocone: Weenies!
Here in Minneapolice, we just drop sections of the I-35 into the Mississippi at rush hour for the fun.

Wow.

rubi_con_man: Dear Rest of the country :

Most of the northeast gets by with four-lane highways.

Dear Northeast,

The rest of the country doesn't like you. Or your tiny highways.

P.S. We won't even bother to mention how one of our two rivers vastly outsizes all of your rivers put together!


Dems fightin woids!

Mainer(ah) here. You're dumb. (but you are from Mississippi, so we all kind of knew that already)

Mississippi is EXACTLY 1,520 square miles of water (lakes and rivers). (We call those colored words a link, Go ahead and click it.dummy. I know I know, colored means a WHOLE nother thing where you live...)

Maine alone has EXACTLY 4,523 square miles of water.

Now, assuming you can count to more than 20 with your socks off, 4,523 is BIGGER than 1,520. I believe you used the term 'vastly outsizes'. Do you know what that means?

vast
[vast, vahst] Show IPA adjective, vast·er, vast·est, noun
adjective
1.
of very great area or extent; immense: the vast reaches of outer space.
2.
of very great size or proportions; huge; enormous: vast piles of rubble left in the wake of the war.
3.
very great in number, quantity, amount, etc.: vast sums of money.


which one of those meanings supports your claim that 1,520 'vastly outsizes' 4,523? Dont forget, we haven't even started to add MA, VT, NH, CT, RI..

I think we're done here. Now keep your piehole shut when grown ups are talking.
 
2012-11-18 08:39:08 PM
For nearly a year, what had been five lanes of traffic each way are being squeezed into three on the unaffected eastbound structure, with a lowered speed limit.

That's pretty good by St. Louis standards. Constricting 8 lanes down to 1 is more common.
 
zez
2012-11-18 08:44:22 PM

clivecusslerfan: Mrtraveler01: TheGreatGazoo: I guess the 370 bridge is going to become a bit busier.

I remember when growing up in the 70s that St. Peters was way the fark out in the boondocks.

Both 370 and the Page Avenue Extension (364) have been getting more traffic to try to direct the traffic away from I-70.

Apparently this project is supposed to last for a year so I better get comfy.

I've been trying to find a decent route to get from Harvester to Boschertown that doesn't take an hour or force myself through 100 stop signs. 370 has been a parking lot in the morning about 4 out of 5 days a week lately. 94 has never improved in the last 16 years (even after widening it and removing some stoplights) I've lived here. Taking 364 to Arena forces me through the parts of St. Charles that I hate because of the old people leaving the casino (it'll probably be tons worse tomorrow because its the last day the Hostess store will be open). There are various other routes to get there that I haven't explored yet. What used to take 30 minutes is now up to an hour.

By the time I get it figured out, it'll be done and over with. But, that's traffic in St. Louis!


hmmm.... that is a tough one. How far out of the way is highway C? You could take that to B.
 
2012-11-18 08:52:42 PM
White Flight people problems...Move out of the sticks people..
 
2012-11-18 09:11:50 PM

Mrtraveler01: TheGreatGazoo: I guess the 370 bridge is going to become a bit busier.

I remember when growing up in the 70s that St. Peters was way the fark out in the boondocks.

Both 370 and the Page Avenue Extension (364) have been getting more traffic to try to direct the traffic away from I-70.

Apparently this project is supposed to last for a year so I better get comfy.


I live pretty close to the Page bridge and yeah, traffic on that has gone up a fair amount. It's still hardly busy, but volume is up.

clivecusslerfan: I've been trying to find a decent route to get from Harvester to Boschertown that doesn't take an hour or force myself through 100 stop signs.


You're boned. That's just a crappy direction to have to go. You could possibly cross into STL county on 364, then take 141/Earth City Expressway up to 370, then cross back over.

Mr. Shabooboo: White Flight people problems...Move out of the sticks people..


St. Charles County has more people living there than STL City. Hardly the sticks nowadays.
 
2012-11-18 09:13:09 PM

zez: clivecusslerfan: Mrtraveler01: TheGreatGazoo: I guess the 370 bridge is going to become a bit busier.

I remember when growing up in the 70s that St. Peters was way the fark out in the boondocks.

Both 370 and the Page Avenue Extension (364) have been getting more traffic to try to direct the traffic away from I-70.

Apparently this project is supposed to last for a year so I better get comfy.

I've been trying to find a decent route to get from Harvester to Boschertown that doesn't take an hour or force myself through 100 stop signs. 370 has been a parking lot in the morning about 4 out of 5 days a week lately. 94 has never improved in the last 16 years (even after widening it and removing some stoplights) I've lived here. Taking 364 to Arena forces me through the parts of St. Charles that I hate because of the old people leaving the casino (it'll probably be tons worse tomorrow because its the last day the Hostess store will be open). There are various other routes to get there that I haven't explored yet. What used to take 30 minutes is now up to an hour.

By the time I get it figured out, it'll be done and over with. But, that's traffic in St. Louis!

hmmm.... that is a tough one. How far out of the way is highway C? You could take that to B.


Opposite side of St. Peters. Besides, what would I do when we get a couple inches of rain and the road floods over?
 
zez
2012-11-18 09:27:27 PM

clivecusslerfan: zez: clivecusslerfan: Mrtraveler01: TheGreatGazoo: I guess the 370 bridge is going to become a bit busier.

I remember when growing up in the 70s that St. Peters was way the fark out in the boondocks.

Both 370 and the Page Avenue Extension (364) have been getting more traffic to try to direct the traffic away from I-70.

Apparently this project is supposed to last for a year so I better get comfy.

I've been trying to find a decent route to get from Harvester to Boschertown that doesn't take an hour or force myself through 100 stop signs. 370 has been a parking lot in the morning about 4 out of 5 days a week lately. 94 has never improved in the last 16 years (even after widening it and removing some stoplights) I've lived here. Taking 364 to Arena forces me through the parts of St. Charles that I hate because of the old people leaving the casino (it'll probably be tons worse tomorrow because its the last day the Hostess store will be open). There are various other routes to get there that I haven't explored yet. What used to take 30 minutes is now up to an hour.

By the time I get it figured out, it'll be done and over with. But, that's traffic in St. Louis!

hmmm.... that is a tough one. How far out of the way is highway C? You could take that to B.

Opposite side of St. Peters. Besides, what would I do when we get a couple inches of rain and the road floods over?


They have south main open again behind the QT at 5th so you could take that to riverside then up clark to second street. That way you don't have to deal with the mess on 5th by the casino/highway
 
2012-11-18 09:33:21 PM
Is this the line for the New Iphone ?

/btw did you guys see Alaskans gold, that's skinned kid removed a Brig and the old lumps foot was angry !
 
2012-11-18 09:36:32 PM
The real story here is that you can take out a bridge with 25 pounds of explosives.

Thats like the same weight as 3 gallon jugs of milk.

You could carry it in a backpack.

One dude could do this at 3am and there is fark-all we can do to prevent it.
 
2012-11-18 09:39:31 PM

clivecusslerfan: Mrtraveler01: TheGreatGazoo: I guess the 370 bridge is going to become a bit busier.

I remember when growing up in the 70s that St. Peters was way the fark out in the boondocks.

Both 370 and the Page Avenue Extension (364) have been getting more traffic to try to direct the traffic away from I-70.

Apparently this project is supposed to last for a year so I better get comfy.

I've been trying to find a decent route to get from Harvester to Boschertown that doesn't take an hour or force myself through 100 stop signs. 370 has been a parking lot in the morning about 4 out of 5 days a week lately. 94 has never improved in the last 16 years (even after widening it and removing some stoplights) I've lived here. Taking 364 to Arena forces me through the parts of St. Charles that I hate because of the old people leaving the casino (it'll probably be tons worse tomorrow because its the last day the Hostess store will be open). There are various other routes to get there that I haven't explored yet. What used to take 30 minutes is now up to an hour.

By the time I get it figured out, it'll be done and over with. But, that's traffic in St. Louis!


do you have AAA? all the best people do. and they will supply you with excellent alternate route planning upon request. seriously, their prefered service is worth the $. i don't work for them. i just like having me & Mrs.Kritter worry-free on the road. with a cell phone & AAA i have no fear, no worries.
 
2012-11-18 09:45:41 PM

TheWhoppah: The real story here is that you can take out a bridge with 25 pounds of explosives.

Thats like the same weight as 3 gallon jugs of milk.

You could carry it in a backpack.

One dude could do this at 3am and there is fark-all we can do to prevent it.


You do realize that they weren't just dumped on the bridge and ignited, right?

They've been prepping the bridge for demolition for a couple weeks and they put these explosives in small amounts in VERY precise places. Some jihadist/nutjob/anarchist/government operative has about as much chance of doing this unnoticed as I do of having Miranda Kerr try to jump my bones tomorrow.
 
2012-11-18 09:48:22 PM

Mr. Shabooboo: White Flight people problems...Move out of the sticks people..


Uh, St. Charles County has a population of around 360,000. Not exactly the sticks. I'll take my longer commute over the vastly overblown land values and crippling poverty/brutal crime that St. Louis County and city have to offer.
 
2012-11-18 09:51:30 PM

TheWhoppah: The real story here is that you can take out a bridge with 25 pounds of explosives.

Thats like the same weight as 3 gallon jugs of milk.

You could carry it in a backpack.

One dude could do this at 3am and there is fark-all we can do to prevent it.


Good luck running an acetylene torch for a few months to cut out all the other supports without anyone noticing. 25lbs of explosives would do absolutely dick to most structures of that size.
The military has several manuals that are published and available for anyone to read if you want to learn about demolition.
 
2012-11-18 09:58:38 PM

akula: They've been prepping the bridge for demolition for a couple weeks and they put these explosives in small amounts in VERY precise places. Some jihadist/nutjob/anarchist/government operative has about as much chance of doing this unnoticed as I do of having Miranda Kerr try to jump my bones tomorrow.


Yes but it would be easy enough to scout by posing as naturalist or fishermen. The nutjob would bring a partner. The partner's job would be to fetch the tamping... using a rope and pully to make bags available to the bomber up under the bridge. The tamping is made of sand and stones from the riverbank shoveled into Hefty bags. The work of filling the bags is done in advance while "fishing" and scouting. The trash bags full of sand could be left on the river bank and nobody would suspect a thing. The bomber kills the partner after the explosives are set but before detonation.
 
2012-11-18 10:05:53 PM

queezyweezel: Good luck running an acetylene torch for a few months to cut out all the other supports without anyone noticing. 25lbs of explosives would do absolutely dick to most structures of that size.
The military has several manuals that are published and available for anyone to read if you want to learn about demolition.


You know, "taking out the bridge" can be accomplished with much less damage than that required to drop a neat square section into the river below.
 
2012-11-18 10:06:08 PM

TheWhoppah: akula: They've been prepping the bridge for demolition for a couple weeks and they put these explosives in small amounts in VERY precise places. Some jihadist/nutjob/anarchist/government operative has about as much chance of doing this unnoticed as I do of having Miranda Kerr try to jump my bones tomorrow.

Yes but it would be easy enough to scout by posing as naturalist or fishermen. The nutjob would bring a partner. The partner's job would be to fetch the tamping... using a rope and pully to make bags available to the bomber up under the bridge. The tamping is made of sand and stones from the riverbank shoveled into Hefty bags. The work of filling the bags is done in advance while "fishing" and scouting. The trash bags full of sand could be left on the river bank and nobody would suspect a thing. The bomber kills the partner after the explosives are set but before detonation.


And they're going to move 600lb "hefty bags" without anyone noticing how? figure about 20lbs per "gallon" of sand, and those bags are 30 gallon bags. Why would you go through all that to take out a bridge, when you could just hijack a barge and crash it into the bridge at full speed?
 
2012-11-18 10:14:47 PM
Alright smartasses, who woke up the Mothman?
 
2012-11-18 10:28:06 PM

queezyweezel: And they're going to move 600lb "hefty bags" without anyone noticing how? figure about 20lbs per "gallon" of sand, and those bags are 30 gallon bags


You'd only need ~50 pounds of sand per bag... think of something about the size of a bag of QuickCrete concrete from Home Depot. Use multiple bags if you need more weight on a particular charge... You don't need a ton of tamping, just enought to make sure that a good portion of the blast energy is transferred into the bridge structure instead of off into the air. This isn't rocket surgery.
 
2012-11-18 10:51:56 PM

TheWhoppah: queezyweezel: And they're going to move 600lb "hefty bags" without anyone noticing how? figure about 20lbs per "gallon" of sand, and those bags are 30 gallon bags

You'd only need ~50 pounds of sand per bag... think of something about the size of a bag of QuickCrete concrete from Home Depot. Use multiple bags if you need more weight on a particular charge... You don't need a ton of tamping, just enought to make sure that a good portion of the blast energy is transferred into the bridge structure instead of off into the air. This isn't rocket surgery.


But why would you spend days/weeks suspending yourself....ahh fark it. enjoy your diehard fantasy,.
 
2012-11-18 11:22:38 PM
I was driving through a couple weeks ago, and surprised by the fact that the warning signs for this started something like 80 miles out... and gave no indication of what was going on. Just "MAJOR ROAD WORK MM 230 CONSIDER ALT RTE". Thanks MODOT.

/stopped in Wentzville for gas, asked a guy there what was up, took 370 and had no problems.
 
2012-11-19 12:00:47 AM

queezyweezel: TheWhoppah: queezyweezel: And they're going to move 600lb "hefty bags" without anyone noticing how? figure about 20lbs per "gallon" of sand, and those bags are 30 gallon bags

You'd only need ~50 pounds of sand per bag... think of something about the size of a bag of QuickCrete concrete from Home Depot. Use multiple bags if you need more weight on a particular charge... You don't need a ton of tamping, just enought to make sure that a good portion of the blast energy is transferred into the bridge structure instead of off into the air. This isn't rocket surgery.

But why would you spend days/weeks suspending yourself....ahh fark it. enjoy your diehard fantasy,.


I think his point was not that it would be difficult, but that it is possible. Sort of in the same way contact with extraterrestrials is
 
2012-11-19 12:44:48 AM
I miss the fast 370. Now it's "lets all screech to a halt at random intervals to keep Shrinkwrap on his toes while he's still waking up."
 
2012-11-19 12:51:38 AM
I work at the Dave & Busters in Earth City (Hwy 70, one exit before the bridge), and this has made my job an absolute mess. Instead of facing rush hour traffic on a now smaller bridge, people come in and hang out for an hour or so. This means on top of our already hectic dinner rush, we're getting slammed by walk-ins.
At least 364 hasn't been too terrible bad going home. Looks like most people are taking the 370 route into St.Charles...for now.
 
2012-11-19 01:20:48 AM
Why do so many sites have their own bug-ridden re-invention of youtube's video player?
 
2012-11-19 09:25:30 AM

Mrtraveler01: Ready-set: That's one way to keep the people of St. Charles out of St. Louis.

University City here. And just kidding.

Sort of.

It's more like the opposite. :p

Although I will say, traffic has been moving pretty smoothly through that construction zone.


I've heard the steak house at the casino has won a bunch of awards. But what else is going on in St. Charles? Family Arena doesn't get cool bands and old town seems designed for the 50+ crowd.
 
zez
2012-11-19 10:14:59 AM

Ready-set: old town seems designed for the 50+ crowd.


There is North Main, but that seems to be geared for either the 50+ crowd or Lindenwood kids.

Bought tickets to see Weird Al at the Family Area with the kids. Are you implying that Weird Al isn't cool?
 
2012-11-19 10:52:31 AM

zez: Ready-set: old town seems designed for the 50+ crowd.

There is North Main, but that seems to be geared for either the 50+ crowd or Lindenwood kids.

Bought tickets to see Weird Al at the Family Area with the kids. Are you implying that Weird Al isn't cool?


Now wait a minute...you mean they actually still have stuff going on at the Family Arena that isn't a cagefighting match?
 
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