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2012-11-18 11:02:01 AM
They've had one parked on a busy road in our town for a few years. It says something like "Choose your ride if you drink" or something like that.
 
2012-11-18 11:25:51 AM
Tazewell County? LOL!
 
2012-11-18 01:22:29 PM
A deputy who drove it to Pekin from Springfield noticed a car speeding from behind at about 90 mph, Huston said. The driver apparently believed he was approaching a cab until he pulled alongside the vehicle and realized its true identity.

"Then it was like his brakes locked," Huston said.


You know, I could actually see something like this working out fine.
 
2012-11-18 01:25:57 PM
An article about how a car looks and there's no photo of the car?
 
2012-11-18 02:12:57 PM
From the article: "Everyone who sees that thing will be talking about it, and that's the point," Huston said during a news conference to show off his department's newest tool to curb drunken driving.

Closer to the point, everyone who sees that thing will be slurring incoherently about it, but STILL...
 
2012-11-18 02:15:21 PM
I'd probably be dumb enough to hop into the back of that car perfectly sober and tell the cop, "The airport, and step on it!"
 
2012-11-18 02:15:23 PM
i hear it's very difficult to put photos up on the internet
 
2012-11-18 02:18:29 PM

Friskya:
"Then it was like his brakes locked," Huston said.

You know, I could actually see something like this working out fine.


Next line: "The Choose Your Ride car will not be used in regular police work, although after the episode with the highway speeder"
 
2012-11-18 02:18:29 PM
So why's it stupid subby?
 
GBB
2012-11-18 02:21:30 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Tazewell County? LOL!

2nded
 
2012-11-18 02:23:25 PM
Legalize drunk driving NOW!!!
 
GBB
2012-11-18 02:24:02 PM

davynelson: i hear it's very difficult to put photos up on the internet


Double prints aren't as cheap as they used to be. Besides, there aren't too many manufactures of high quality internet film these days.
 
2012-11-18 02:26:26 PM
Fast cab
 
2012-11-18 02:27:52 PM
It would be neat to have a service where you could 'rent' a designated driver.

The problem with taxis is that unless you take one to the bar in the first place, your car is now back at the bar when you're at home, and you have to get another cab ride to go back and pick it up, or get someone to drop you off.

I propose a service where you call up a service that drops off a driver to drive you and your car back home again, and then picks that driver back up again at your house.

I could see it being economical - after all, the service wouldn't need any vehicle of their own other than a few passenger vans to drop off and pick up the drivers from bar to house and back again.
 
2012-11-18 02:29:28 PM
Or maybe we could just encourage bars to provide overnight parking if we were really concerned about drunk driving
 
2012-11-18 02:29:52 PM
I'm not sure I get the stupid tag. Can someone please explain?
 
2012-11-18 02:29:54 PM
I think I saw this on the radio. . .



Where's the freakin pictures?
 
2012-11-18 02:32:20 PM

TuteTibiImperes: It would be neat to have a service where you could 'rent' a designated driver.


We've got it here. They have two drivers and another car so you and your car make it home.
 
2012-11-18 02:32:31 PM
If you are drinking to forget; you will need to pay in advance.

Also, drunk driving is bad, if this helps reduce drunk driving; then I am for it.
 
2012-11-18 02:34:32 PM
www.yellowcabsa.com
 
2012-11-18 02:35:42 PM
forums.watchuseek.com
 
2012-11-18 02:37:11 PM

sloshyj: [www.yellowcabsa.com image 600x373]


Thank you
 
2012-11-18 02:39:02 PM
I don't know why the stupid tag, seems pretty clever to me.

I have a tablet in a mount on the dashboard of my car (a big blue Buick), and a few weeks ago I was on the ICC here in Maryland when some dude came up behind me in a brand new, top of the line Mercedes. I was doing about 80 and he caught up to me like I was standing still. I moved over to let him pass and when he got next to me I saw him look over and he must have seen my tablet, thought I was a cop, because he slammed on his brakes. He dropped behind me and refused to pass me, no matter how much I slowed down. I actually slammed on my brakes at one point just to check, and dropped down to 55 and he kept behind me the whole time. It was kind of funny.
 
2012-11-18 02:40:29 PM

TuteTibiImperes: It would be neat to have a service where you could 'rent' a designated driver.

The problem with taxis is that unless you take one to the bar in the first place, your car is now back at the bar when you're at home, and you have to get another cab ride to go back and pick it up, or get someone to drop you off.

I propose a service where you call up a service that drops off a driver to drive you and your car back home again, and then picks that driver back up again at your house.

I could see it being economical - after all, the service wouldn't need any vehicle of their own other than a few passenger vans to drop off and pick up the drivers from bar to house and back again.


These services are everywhere.
 
2012-11-18 02:40:35 PM

sloshyj: [www.yellowcabsa.com image 600x373]


That's actually pretty cool.

/and Tazewell!
 
2012-11-18 02:42:27 PM

mongbiohazard: I don't know why the stupid tag, seems pretty clever to me.

I have a tablet in a mount on the dashboard of my car (a big blue Buick), and a few weeks ago I was on the ICC here in Maryland when some dude came up behind me in a brand new, top of the line Mercedes. I was doing about 80 and he caught up to me like I was standing still. I moved over to let him pass and when he got next to me I saw him look over and he must have seen my tablet, thought I was a cop, because he slammed on his brakes. He dropped behind me and refused to pass me, no matter how much I slowed down. I actually slammed on my brakes at one point just to check, and dropped down to 55 and he kept behind me the whole time. It was kind of funny.


I guess you're lucky he didn't have a body in his trunk.
 
2012-11-18 02:47:26 PM
www.yellowcabsa.com 
theworstmovie.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-11-18 02:48:59 PM
Either way you go, it's going to cost you to sit in the back seat.
 
2012-11-18 02:50:20 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Tazewell County? LOL!


Don't get too excited. It's pronounced 'taz-well', not 'taze-well'

/Peoria native
 
2012-11-18 02:50:37 PM

Nothing To See Here: sloshyj: [www.yellowcabsa.com image 600x373]

Thank you


Seconded on the thanks.
They say a picture is worth a thousand words.
It's certainly true that this picture is worth more than all the words in that article.
 
2012-11-18 02:50:58 PM
sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net
 
2012-11-18 02:52:39 PM

TuteTibiImperes: It would be neat to have a service where you could 'rent' a designated driver.


I saw something like that on Top Gear a few years ago. The drivers use folding motorcycles to get to the pub, then put them in the trunk when driving someone's car. Costs about twice as much as a cab ride.
 
2012-11-18 02:53:30 PM
I'd think that the flashers on the top might be a give away, but I'm fine with this.
 
2012-11-18 02:56:05 PM
If this gets people to stop driving while half in the bag and get a cab home instead, I'm all for it. It's better and cheaper than arresting and prosecuting people.
 
2012-11-18 02:56:11 PM
Seems to be something making the rounds.

Here's another from Durham NC
 
2012-11-18 02:57:00 PM
2.bp.blogspot.com 

CHOOSE YOUR RIDE!
 
2012-11-18 03:01:50 PM
and the popups on that site guarantee I'll never go back ...
 
2012-11-18 03:01:51 PM
This is not a taxi, this is a Police car. You wish me to call you a taxi?

// All together now:

YOU'RE A TAXI.
 
2012-11-18 03:08:43 PM
So what happens when I'm three sheets to the wind, and crocked to the gills, and I stumble upon this car door which says "TAXI?"

...Do I get arrested anyway? I TRIED to take a cab occifer!

/sorry about the vomit
 
2012-11-18 03:11:05 PM
"Tazewell Cab. Where you can pay a fare then be arrested - and then tazed as well."
 
2012-11-18 03:11:33 PM
That website had 3 popups, and I have a Mac, and I'm not usually bothered. Pice of shi*t.
 
2012-11-18 03:18:26 PM

TuteTibiImperes: It would be neat to have a service where you could 'rent' a designated driver.

The problem with taxis is that unless you take one to the bar in the first place, your car is now back at the bar when you're at home, and you have to get another cab ride to go back and pick it up, or get someone to drop you off.

I propose a service where you call up a service that drops off a driver to drive you and your car back home again, and then picks that driver back up again at your house.

I could see it being economical - after all, the service wouldn't need any vehicle of their own other than a few passenger vans to drop off and pick up the drivers from bar to house and back again.


I'm not sure if it's still around, but there was a service in Christchurch when I lived there that would drive a foldable mini scooter out to whichever bar you were at, throw the scooter in your boot and drive you home. It was charged by distance with a minimum charge around $15.
 
2012-11-18 03:20:54 PM
Police can hear all the cab dispatches anyway.

Then you're put on a watch list for being a drunk. Police keep tabs on you anytime they see you. Not a 'safe' as it looks.

Good luck citizen.
 
2012-11-18 03:21:11 PM
So you're thinking "Man I'm so drunk, I'll just take a cab home." Then you reach for the door, realize your mistake and quietly and hopefully inconspicuously shuffle to your car to drive home drunk.
 
2012-11-18 03:25:26 PM

GBB: BarkingUnicorn: Tazewell County? LOL!
2nded


It's pronounced Tazz-well (at least the one in Virginia is), so less funny.
 
GBB
2012-11-18 03:29:05 PM
reverb.findawayworld.com
 
GBB
2012-11-18 03:32:43 PM

sallys: That website had 3 popups, and I have a Mac Pice of shi*t.

  <--- what I saw
 
2012-11-18 03:35:01 PM

mbillips: GBB: BarkingUnicorn: Tazewell County? LOL!
2nded

It's pronounced Tazz-well (at least the one in Virginia is), so less funny.


Don't tazz me bro!
 
2012-11-18 03:35:34 PM

mbillips: GBB: BarkingUnicorn: Tazewell County? LOL!
2nded

It's pronounced Tazz-well (at least the one in Virginia is), so less funny.


Same for the town in TN.
Plus, they also have a New Tazewell, where, I'm almost certain, there used to be a bar that had a sign that told you how much a mug, a pitcher, a chair, a table, etc., would cost, should you happen to break one. They also had a coat check, for guns, or so my sister said.
 
2012-11-18 03:40:37 PM
Taz is well.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-11-18 03:42:48 PM
I think they're making it up as they go along.
 
2012-11-18 03:50:40 PM
Very good idea from the police.
 
2012-11-18 04:00:40 PM
If you want to catch drunk drivers, put down the f**kin' donut, get in your car, and pull over people who are driving like assholes. It's not rocket science.
 
2012-11-18 04:01:58 PM

sbutler: BarkingUnicorn: Tazewell County? LOL!

Don't get too excited. It's pronounced 'taz-well', not 'taze-well'


Well, that's dumb. Do you also have Dicktown, pronounced Dyke ton?
 
2012-11-18 04:16:50 PM

uttertosh: sbutler: BarkingUnicorn: Tazewell County? LOL!

Don't get too excited. It's pronounced 'taz-well', not 'taze-well'

Well, that's dumb. Do you also have Dicktown, pronounced Dyke ton?


A knife, fork, bottle and cork?
 
2012-11-18 04:20:41 PM
The one painted like this near my home includes the cost of the average taxi ride home and the cost of a DUI. That's good marketing.
 
2012-11-18 04:29:27 PM

TuteTibiImperes: It would be neat to have a service where you could 'rent' a designated driver.


They have those here. Apparently they only cost a bit more than a taxi.
 
2012-11-18 04:59:24 PM
I have no problem with drunk drivers getting the full taser treatment.

As funny as these cars looks, anything to scare stupid people into not playing with others' lives is great.
 
2012-11-18 05:18:23 PM

TuteTibiImperes: It would be neat to have a service where you could 'rent' a designated driver.

The problem with taxis is that unless you take one to the bar in the first place, your car is now back at the bar when you're at home, and you have to get another cab ride to go back and pick it up, or get someone to drop you off.

I propose a service where you call up a service that drops off a driver to drive you and your car back home again, and then picks that driver back up again at your house.

I could see it being economical - after all, the service wouldn't need any vehicle of their own other than a few passenger vans to drop off and pick up the drivers from bar to house and back again.


You're a f*cking moron
 
2012-11-18 05:23:35 PM

Godscrack: Police can hear all the cab dispatches anyway.

Then you're put on a watch list for being a drunk. Police keep tabs on you anytime they see you. Not a 'safe' as it looks.

Good luck citizen.


Um.... You're kidding, right?
 
2012-11-18 05:24:29 PM

rappy: TuteTibiImperes: It would be neat to have a service where you could 'rent' a designated driver.

The problem with taxis is that unless you take one to the bar in the first place, your car is now back at the bar when you're at home, and you have to get another cab ride to go back and pick it up, or get someone to drop you off.

I propose a service where you call up a service that drops off a driver to drive you and your car back home again, and then picks that driver back up again at your house.

I could see it being economical - after all, the service wouldn't need any vehicle of their own other than a few passenger vans to drop off and pick up the drivers from bar to house and back again.

You're a f*cking moron


Who are you, REALLY?
 
2012-11-18 05:25:19 PM

bingethinker: If you want to catch drunk drivers, put down the f**kin' donut, get in your car, and pull over people who are driving like assholes. It's not rocket science.


Or you could try clever ideas like the one in the article to try to stop people from driving drunk in the first place.
 
2012-11-18 05:32:19 PM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER:
Who are you, REALLY?


I'm everyone, and no one
 
2012-11-18 05:33:08 PM
I've seen a few services like what they showed on TopGear where someone comes to you on a little fold up scooter. Then they put the scooter in the trunk and drive you and your car home. I could see that working in a city, but in a rural setting a scooter small enough to fit in a trunk wouldn't work as well. Then again it'd be funny to watch them try to fit one of those in the trunk of my car.

I figure a designated driver, a cab to and from, or figuring out how to get your car back is all part of the deal. Part of the reason I drink at home, or go out with enough people to make splitting the cab rides worthwhile.
 
2012-11-18 05:38:06 PM

NBSV: I figure a designated driver, a cab to and from, or figuring out how to get your car back is all part of the deal. Part of the reason I drink at home, or go out with enough people to make splitting the cab rides worthwhile.


Are you kidding? Alcoholics don't have the capacity to reason
 
2012-11-18 06:51:37 PM
We have one of these at the university where I work. They parked it outside of our building for the month of "Oksober." I really hate the tacky thing.
 
2012-11-18 08:48:19 PM

Godscrack: Police can hear all the cab dispatches anyway.

Then you're put on a watch list for being a drunk. Police keep tabs on you anytime they see you. Not a 'safe' as it looks.

Good luck citizen.


Paranoid much?
 
2012-11-18 09:18:30 PM
I don't understand. People that are too drunk to drink and choose to ride in a Taxi are somehow criminals? WUT?
 
2012-11-18 09:24:31 PM

vodka: I don't understand. People that are too drunk to drink and choose to ride in a Taxi are somehow criminals? WUT?


You're so dumb it hurts.

They're saying you can either a) take a cheap taxi ride home or b) drive drunk and get an expensive police ride home when you're busted.
 
2012-11-18 10:42:30 PM

TuteTibiImperes: It would be neat to have a service where you could 'rent' a designated driver.

The problem with taxis is that unless you take one to the bar in the first place, your car is now back at the bar when you're at home, and you have to get another cab ride to go back and pick it up, or get someone to drop you off.

I propose a service where you call up a service that drops off a driver to drive you and your car back home again, and then picks that driver back up again at your house.

I could see it being economical - after all, the service wouldn't need any vehicle of their own other than a few passenger vans to drop off and pick up the drivers from bar to house and back again.


That would be cool for everyone but the drivers. Drunk people aren't as fun as they think they are to sober people. If I had to do that job, I'd get shiat faced every night.
 
2012-11-18 11:07:58 PM

CruiserTwelve: Godscrack: Police can hear all the cab dispatches anyway.

Then you're put on a watch list for being a drunk. Police keep tabs on you anytime they see you. Not a 'safe' as it looks.

Good luck citizen.

Um.... You're kidding, right?


About what? police monitoring cab dispatches for drivers asking for help?

No.
They do. Always have.
 
2012-11-18 11:53:03 PM

rappy: vodka: I don't understand. People that are too drunk to drink and choose to ride in a Taxi are somehow criminals? WUT?

You're so dumb it hurts.

They're saying you can either a) take a cheap taxi ride home or b) drive drunk and get an expensive police ride home when you're busted.


His handle is "vodka" if you hadn't noticed.
 
2012-11-19 12:00:20 AM

rappy: TuteTibiImperes: It would be neat to have a service where you could 'rent' a designated driver.

The problem with taxis is that unless you take one to the bar in the first place, your car is now back at the bar when you're at home, and you have to get another cab ride to go back and pick it up, or get someone to drop you off.

I propose a service where you call up a service that drops off a driver to drive you and your car back home again, and then picks that driver back up again at your house.

I could see it being economical - after all, the service wouldn't need any vehicle of their own other than a few passenger vans to drop off and pick up the drivers from bar to house and back again.

You're a f*cking moron


Really? It seems like a smart idea to me, and apparently it's already being done other places. The start up costs would be pretty low, just insurance for your drivers and some sort of pickup vehicle to gather them back up after they take the customers' vehicles home.

Admittedly there would be some challenges. This would be most appealing to people getting out of bars/clubs, as if you just need a ride to the airport or something a regular taxi makes a lot more sense. Being that the business would focus on bar traffic you would need to set up in a city with a big enough bar scene to give enough customers, and the majority of the business would likely be from 10pm-2am or thereabouts. I'm sure there would be a way to make the numbers work though.
 
2012-11-19 03:49:20 AM

Godscrack: About what? police monitoring cab dispatches for drivers asking for help?


That's not what you said. You said this: "Police can hear all the cab dispatches anyway.

Then you're put on a watch list for being a drunk. Police keep tabs on you anytime they see you. Not a 'safe' as it looks."


Maybe some police departments listen for cabbies in trouble. No police departments anywhere listen for people that call cabs and put them on watch lists to keep tabs on them. That's absurd.
 
2012-11-19 05:17:28 AM

TuteTibiImperes: Really?


I think he may have been referring to the fact that your proposed practice is already widespread and successful and has been for years, albeit a little harshly.
 
2012-11-19 09:44:51 AM

Godscrack: Police can hear all the cab dispatches anyway.

Then you're put on a watch list for being a drunk. Police keep tabs on you anytime they see you. Not a 'safe' as it looks.

Good luck citizen.


Another common tactic is that cops will often send undercover cops into bars disguised as young patrons. They will take pictures of their group, but will actually be trying to get photos of all the other people in the bar. They run this through facial recognition software to track who is drinking in bars, so that they can also be put on the watch list. Be careful anytime you see a camera or camera phone get pulled out at a bar, it is most likely a cop (or someone working for the cops).
 
2012-11-19 10:40:06 AM
FTFA"Do you want to go home in a sheriff's car or a taxi?"


Except only one of them actually takes you home.
 
2012-11-19 10:46:35 AM

CruiserTwelve: Maybe some police departments listen for cabbies in trouble


Thanks, and listen to anything else being transmitted, 'just in case'. It's for everyone's safety.

MycroftHolmes: Another common tactic is that cops will often send undercover cops into bars disguised as young patrons.


Never let people take pictures of you in a bar or any establishment serving liquor, even if you aren't drinking. 

This isn't a game anymore. There's big money involved in DUI witch hunts.
 
2012-11-19 10:46:43 AM

TuteTibiImperes: rappy: TuteTibiImperes: It would be neat to have a service where you could 'rent' a designated driver.

The problem with taxis is that unless you take one to the bar in the first place, your car is now back at the bar when you're at home, and you have to get another cab ride to go back and pick it up, or get someone to drop you off.

I propose a service where you call up a service that drops off a driver to drive you and your car back home again, and then picks that driver back up again at your house.

I could see it being economical - after all, the service wouldn't need any vehicle of their own other than a few passenger vans to drop off and pick up the drivers from bar to house and back again.

You're a f*cking moron

Really? It seems like a smart idea to me, and apparently it's already being done other places. The start up costs would be pretty low, just insurance for your drivers and some sort of pickup vehicle to gather them back up after they take the customers' vehicles home.

Admittedly there would be some challenges. This would be most appealing to people getting out of bars/clubs, as if you just need a ride to the airport or something a regular taxi makes a lot more sense. Being that the business would focus on bar traffic you would need to set up in a city with a big enough bar scene to give enough customers, and the majority of the business would likely be from 10pm-2am or thereabouts. I'm sure there would be a way to make the numbers work though.


I am envisioning a way to sell books on the internet. I would have a website that people could log into, and see what books were available. They could then 'buy' these books. Once there was enough traffic, I might even try to sell things besides books on this website. I think this could work.
 
2012-11-19 10:49:21 AM

MycroftHolmes: Another common tactic is that cops will often send undercover cops into bars disguised as young patrons. They will take pictures of their group, but will actually be trying to get photos of all the other people in the bar. They run this through facial recognition software to track who is drinking in bars, so that they can also be put on the watch list. Be careful anytime you see a camera or camera phone get pulled out at a bar, it is most likely a cop (or someone working for the cops).


Cops also go through bar parking lots and paint special symbols on the cars of drinkers using paint that only the cops can see with their special goggles. Then they drive around and watch traffic through their special goggles and stop the cars that are coming from bars.

Another tactic is to disguise themselves as missionaries from the Mormon church and come to your door asking you to join them. If you refuse, they know you must be a drinker. Then they mark your house and car and conduct suveillance by satellite to see where you go.

Oh yeah, have you ever noticed the micrscopic GPS units in all the liquor at the liquor store? When you drink, it activates them and the cops can track you to see where you go. If you move over 20 miles per hour, the cops check you to see if you're driving a car. If you are, you get stopped and checked for DUI.
 
2012-11-19 10:51:34 AM

Godscrack: CruiserTwelve: Maybe some police departments listen for cabbies in trouble

Thanks, and listen to anything else being transmitted, 'just in case'. It's for everyone's safety.

MycroftHolmes: Another common tactic is that cops will often send undercover cops into bars disguised as young patrons.

Never let people take pictures of you in a bar or any establishment serving liquor, even if you aren't drinking. 

This isn't a game anymore. There's big money involved in DUI witch hunts.


Another good tip is to make sure that when you are out in the bar scene, don't leave any identifying DNA evidence around. Wait, that defeats the purpose of going to bars.

Godscrack, I think you need to go back do some simple numbers and look at the logistics. You are basically saying that cops will track anyone who goes through bars, and then keep an eye on them, as they would be more likely to DUI. This is logistically impossible and a very inefficient way of tracking people who go to bars.

You want to track people who go to bars, there is a very easy way...park your patrol car outside a bar at closing time. This does not involve an elaborate database or watch list, with data gleaned from listening to cabbies radio traffic (never, ever, ever, has a cabbie ever asked my name and broadcast it on the radio). Do you actually think this way?
 
2012-11-19 10:52:45 AM

CruiserTwelve: Cops also go through bar parking lots and paint special symbols on the cars of drinkers using paint that only the cops can see with their special goggles. Then they drive around and watch traffic through their special goggles and stop the cars that are coming from bars.

Another tactic is to disguise themselves as missionaries from the Mormon church and come to your door asking you to join them. If you refuse, they know you must be a drinker. Then they mark your house and car and conduct suveillance by satellite to see where you go.

Oh yeah, have you ever noticed the micrscopic GPS units in all the liquor at the liquor store? When you drink, it activates them and the cops can track you to see where you go. If you move over 20 miles per hour, the cops check you to see if you're driving a car. If you are, you get stopped and checked for DUI.



That's good to know. I'll spread the word.

Thanks officer.
 
2012-11-19 10:54:44 AM

CruiserTwelve: MycroftHolmes: Another common tactic is that cops will often send undercover cops into bars disguised as young patrons. They will take pictures of their group, but will actually be trying to get photos of all the other people in the bar. They run this through facial recognition software to track who is drinking in bars, so that they can also be put on the watch list. Be careful anytime you see a camera or camera phone get pulled out at a bar, it is most likely a cop (or someone working for the cops).

Cops also go through bar parking lots and paint special symbols on the cars of drinkers using paint that only the cops can see with their special goggles. Then they drive around and watch traffic through their special goggles and stop the cars that are coming from bars.

Another tactic is to disguise themselves as missionaries from the Mormon church and come to your door asking you to join them. If you refuse, they know you must be a drinker. Then they mark your house and car and conduct suveillance by satellite to see where you go.

Oh yeah, have you ever noticed the micrscopic GPS units in all the liquor at the liquor store? When you drink, it activates them and the cops can track you to see where you go. If you move over 20 miles per hour, the cops check you to see if you're driving a car. If you are, you get stopped and checked for DUI.


Another word of advice. Do not eat bar pretzels. They have detectable amounts of Radium 226. All those 'toll tag' detectors are actually very sensitive geiger counters. You trigger one of those, and blammo, they have your license tag and proof that you were recently in a bar.
 
2012-11-19 10:58:43 AM

Godscrack: Thanks, and listen to anything else being transmitted, 'just in case'. It's for everyone's safety.


Of course. That's why cops encourage drunks to take cabs home from the bar. Did you know the cab drivers are secret police? They take pictures of every drunk that gets in their cab so they can add it to their data base. That's why I am required to look at those pictures and memorize the faces of every "drunk" in my jurisdiction. So I can "check on them." Damn, how did you find out about that?

Never let people take pictures of you in a bar or any establishment serving liquor, even if you aren't drinking. 

This isn't a game anymore. There's big money involved in DUI witch hunts.


Another reason cops encourage people to take cabs. Wait, that doesn't make sense. Myabe, just maybe, because it's pure bullshiat.
 
2012-11-19 11:03:34 AM

MycroftHolmes: You want to track people who go to bars, there is a very easy way...park your patrol car outside a bar at closing time.


That's fairly routine now.

There's a town north of me called Oro Valley, police are actually stopping people and accusing them of being drunk. Sober people. It's a fairly affluent area too.

And Oro Valley has the highest number of citations written in the country. Look it up.

MycroftHolmes: Do you actually think this way?


I don't think this way. I've seen it happen. Years back, but still.

I'm not saying it's standard practice with all departments, but I know anything is possible now.
 
2012-11-19 11:11:00 AM
I'm not defending or encouraging drunk driving. I just know this war on drunks is overlapping into folks private lives who don't drink.

Not everyone in a bar is drinking alcohol. They might act drunk, but people are people.
 
2012-11-19 11:19:25 AM

Godscrack: MycroftHolmes: You want to track people who go to bars, there is a very easy way...park your patrol car outside a bar at closing time.

That's fairly routine now.

There's a town north of me called Oro Valley, police are actually stopping people and accusing them of being drunk. Sober people. It's a fairly affluent area too.

And Oro Valley has the highest number of citations written in the country. Look it up.

MycroftHolmes: Do you actually think this way?

I don't think this way. I've seen it happen. Years back, but still.

I'm not saying it's standard practice with all departments, but I know anything is possible now.


Are you saying that sober people are being cited for DUI with no substantiation (a blood test, a breathalyzer, or even a roadside sobriety test)? If so, I would agree that police have overstepped their bounds there (I think all cops would agree that if they are citing people without any evidence, they have overstepped their bounds). I simply do not believe it is as pervasive as you think. And the idea cops will listen to cabbies radio traffic to 1) find out who drinks (but does not drive drunk), 2) gather the name and identifying information from said radio traffic (at best, the radio chatter might have an address, no way to tell who at that address is the drinker), and 3) pay that person special attention (you never say exactly how that would work-would they tail him on drinking nights, would they tie into the bars somehow) is patently ludicrous. Never mind the fact that what you have described is logistically impossible, you have basically outlined a genius plan for expending incredible amounts of resources to track someone who has shown the propensity to NOT DRIVE DRUNK by calling a cab.

At any point in your head, did this make sense?
 
2012-11-19 11:37:57 AM

MycroftHolmes: Are you saying that sober people are being cited for DUI with no substantiation


Where did I say that?

I simply do not believe it is as pervasive as you think. And the idea cops will listen to cabbies radio traffic to 1) find out who drinks (but does not drive drunk), 2) gather the name and identifying information from said radio traffic (at best, the radio chatter might have an address, no way to tell who at that address is the drinker), and 3) pay that person special attention (you never say exactly how that would work-would they tail him on drinking nights, would they tie into the bars somehow) is patently ludicrous.

Have you ever had access or used a police radio?

CruiserTwelve just admitted here in his earlier post:

CruiserTwelve: Maybe some police departments listen for cabbies in trouble

How hard would it be for them to listen to anything else..? It can happen. Everything is right there.
 
2012-11-19 11:39:34 AM
Drunk driving is one of my hobbies, so I'm getting a kick...
 
2012-11-19 11:45:00 AM

Godscrack: MycroftHolmes: Are you saying that sober people are being cited for DUI with no substantiation

Where did I say that?

I simply do not believe it is as pervasive as you think. And the idea cops will listen to cabbies radio traffic to 1) find out who drinks (but does not drive drunk), 2) gather the name and identifying information from said radio traffic (at best, the radio chatter might have an address, no way to tell who at that address is the drinker), and 3) pay that person special attention (you never say exactly how that would work-would they tail him on drinking nights, would they tie into the bars somehow) is patently ludicrous.

Have you ever had access or used a police radio?

CruiserTwelve just admitted here in his earlier post:

CruiserTwelve: Maybe some police departments listen for cabbies in trouble

How hard would it be for them to listen to anything else..? It can happen. Everything is right there.


We aren't talking about police radio. We are talking about what cabbies put on the radio. I have never, ever, ever been asked my name by a cabbie. So I am not sure how a police radio would be able to pull information out of the airwaves that the cabbie does not know. Is it a magic radio? Does it have super powers?

I am not denying that police might listen to cabbies radio band. I am denying the rest iof your scenario that they would do it to 1) gather information that cabbies do not have, to 2) somehow discreetly monitor the person they identified in step 1, because 3) the fact that the have proven in the past that they will take a cab instead of DUI proves that they are more likely to DUI.

Even George Orwell is shaking his head at the above. Well, he would be if he was alive.
 
2012-11-19 11:45:57 AM

Whiskey Dickens: Drunk driving is one of my hobbies, so I'm getting a kick...


You maniac, you just landed on the secret DUI watch list. Expect the black helicopters and undercover cops to be monitoring your every move.
 
2012-11-19 11:54:41 AM

Godscrack: MycroftHolmes: Are you saying that sober people are being cited for DUI with no substantiation

Where did I say that?

I simply do not believe it is as pervasive as you think. And the idea cops will listen to cabbies radio traffic to 1) find out who drinks (but does not drive drunk), 2) gather the name and identifying information from said radio traffic (at best, the radio chatter might have an address, no way to tell who at that address is the drinker), and 3) pay that person special attention (you never say exactly how that would work-would they tail him on drinking nights, would they tie into the bars somehow) is patently ludicrous.

Have you ever had access or used a police radio?

CruiserTwelve just admitted here in his earlier post:

CruiserTwelve: Maybe some police departments listen for cabbies in trouble

How hard would it be for them to listen to anything else..? It can happen. Everything is right there.


Let's do some simple math. If we assume that your average cab rider is a social drinker, let's assume that they go out 2 nights a week, but not always the same two nights. Let's assume they have friends, so only a quarter of that time would they be driving. And of those times, only half the time would they either get drunk or not take a cab. This is being fairly generous. Let's also assume that to effectively monitor a DUI prospect, the police would have to have someone who knew when they went out, whicjh bars they went to, etc. And to do this effectively, they would have to do it every drinking night (let's say that Wednesday through Saturday are drinking nights). I will even be generous and say one cop could watch four prospects at a time (impossible, really, but want to give you the benefit of the doubt). Assuming that the standard DUI generates $1K of revenue, A single FTE working the job of proactively monitoring known drinkers could be expected to generate $50K in revenue assuming that the drunks never wise up and stop drunk driving.

So, using a standard multiplier of 1.25, you could basically have someone salaried at $40K to monitor people who drink and maybe it would break even. That is pretty low for LEO, so I am not sure that there is any way that your plan could ever break even, much less generate positive revenue.
 
2012-11-19 12:03:59 PM

Whiskey Dickens: Drunk driving is one of my hobbies, so I'm getting a kick...


*Reported to CruiserTwelve

MycroftHolmes: We are talking about what cabbies put on the radio. I have never, ever, ever been asked my name by a cabbie.


You're drunk. (again) At a bar. Or at the policeman's ball.

You call a cab for a ride home. You tell the cab company where you are. The cab company sends a driver.

Tells the driver where you're at.

This is what police can hear. So, he's bored, decides to drive toward your bar, you know, just to make sure everything is Ok.

The cop actually goes to the cab, says he's glad you called for help. (Gets a good look at you) Thanks the cab driver for doing a great job.

Then he asks you where's your car, he will have it towed home for you, for free.

Nice gesture isn't it?
 
2012-11-19 12:07:09 PM

TuteTibiImperes:

Really? It seems like a smart idea to me, and apparently it's already being done other places. The start up costs would be pretty low, just insurance for your drivers and some sort of pickup vehicle to gather them back up after they take the customers' vehicles home.


You're dumb, too. As you just said, they already have these services. His idea wasn't revolutionary.
 
2012-11-19 02:52:48 PM

MycroftHolmes: Whiskey Dickens: Drunk driving is one of my hobbies, so I'm getting a kick...

You maniac, you just landed on the secret DUI watch list. Expect the black helicopters and undercover cops to be monitoring your every move.


That's OK, I stay off of cabbie super power radio, and have Godscrack's 100% Crazy Sauce TM Book of Paranoia on my nightstand.
 
2012-11-19 03:33:02 PM
Nassau County has one of those (Long Island), I thought it was clever as hell when I saw it.
 
2012-11-19 04:00:28 PM

Whiskey Dickens: MycroftHolmes: Whiskey Dickens: Drunk driving is one of my hobbies, so I'm getting a kick...

You maniac, you just landed on the secret DUI watch list. Expect the black helicopters and undercover cops to be monitoring your every move.

That's OK, I stay off of cabbie super power radio, and have Godscrack's 100% Crazy Sauce TM Book of Paranoia on my nightstand.


That book is bugged. Now the whole world knows what goes on in your bedroom.
 
2012-11-19 07:13:39 PM

Godscrack: This is what police can hear. So, he's bored, decides to drive toward your bar, you know, just to make sure everything is Ok.

The cop actually goes to the cab, says he's glad you called for help. (Gets a good look at you) Thanks the cab driver for doing a great job.

Then he asks you where's your car, he will have it towed home for you, for free.

Nice gesture isn't it?


You think cops have time for this? You think cops monitor taxicab radio frequencies in their cars? Why would cops do that? Why would a cop care that a drunk called for a cab to take him home? What's the whole point of your argument?
 
2012-11-19 10:34:44 PM

CruiserTwelve: What's the whole point of your argument?


It's not an argument. I made a comment earlier and you all called me out on it.

I used to work close to police years ago. I remember thinking, man, these (drunk) people are really trying to do the right thing. And now you have these cops coming around to get in their face at a vulnerable time. No harm done. No laws broken. I thought it was farking evil personally.

I'm just saying I've seen it happen. Who's to say it doesn't happen all the time.

I don't really care if you or anyone believes it.
 
2012-11-19 11:18:29 PM

Godscrack: Who's to say it doesn't happen all the time.


Me.
 
2012-11-20 12:22:39 AM

Godscrack: CruiserTwelve: What's the whole point of your argument?

It's not an argument. I made a comment earlier and you all called me out on it.

I used to work close to police years ago. I remember thinking, man, these (drunk) people are really trying to do the right thing. And now you have these cops coming around to get in their face at a vulnerable time. No harm done. No laws broken. I thought it was farking evil personally.

I'm just saying I've seen it happen. Who's to say it doesn't happen all the time.

I don't really care if you or anyone believes it.


The fact that it would be an insane and inefficient use of resources, that it would be logistically impossible to maintain, the fact that it would defeat the purpose 'hey, let's focus on the guys who are demonstrably NOT breaking the law'.

I wasn't there, I don't know what you saw. But with the critical thinking you have demontsrated here, I doubt that what you saw was what you think you saw. And then to surmise from that that there is some sort of police DUI watch list, hoo boy. Again, did this ever make any sense to you at any point in time?

'Hey, Joe, let's go compile a list of people who drink. Even better, let's compile a list of guys who drink and don't drive afterwards. And here is the best part, all we have to do is monitor cabbies radio, go get to the bar before the cabbie does, find the guy who calledfor a cab, then pay for a free tow of his car. This plan, I tell you, it's full proof'

'What do we do once we get the name and address of the guy who did not break the law...well, I can't think of everything can I?'
 
2012-11-20 10:45:01 AM

CruiserTwelve: Godscrack: Who's to say it doesn't happen all the time.

Me.


MycroftHolmes: I doubt that what you saw was what you think you saw.


Godscrack: I don't really care if you or anyone believes it.  

Hey cops are human. They have emotional problems like everyone else. It's not so unusual they find pleasure in humiliating someone at a vulnerable time just to validate their positions of authority.

Many people think cops are angels working for God. So cops have to live with this. And sometimes, they really believe this. How often do you hear police telling people "Don't lie to me!" "If you're lying, I'll take you to jail!" "How dare you lie to me!".

If you met an angel, would you lie to him?

Being an angel is a big responsibility. Being drunk is a sin. Sinners must be punished.

Put them in jail and force them into poverty.
 
2012-11-20 11:20:57 AM

Godscrack: CruiserTwelve: Godscrack: Who's to say it doesn't happen all the time.

Me.

MycroftHolmes: I doubt that what you saw was what you think you saw.

Godscrack: I don't really care if you or anyone believes it.  

Hey cops are human. They have emotional problems like everyone else. It's not so unusual they find pleasure in humiliating someone at a vulnerable time just to validate their positions of authority.

Many people think cops are angels working for God. So cops have to live with this. And sometimes, they really believe this. How often do you hear police telling people "Don't lie to me!" "If you're lying, I'll take you to jail!" "How dare you lie to me!".

If you met an angel, would you lie to him?

Being an angel is a big responsibility. Being drunk is a sin. Sinners must be punished.

Put them in jail and force them into poverty.


OK, so now you have changed from the idea that cops systematically identify people who drink to maintain a watchlist for the purpose of generating revenue through DUI tickets, to the idea that an isolated cop decided to flaunt his authority and picked a drunk as his target. The former is patently ridiculous, the latter is regrettable but does happen, as cops are, as you say, human.

If you persist in publicly stating your opinion that it is cost effective or even possible for cops to create a list of potential drinkers for the purpose of proactively monitoring them against the possibility that they might commit a DUI, and that the criteria for making this list is actively showing that you avoid DUI by calling a cab, be prepared for everyone with half a brain to realize that you are an idiot with zero ability to critically think or draw logical conclusions. If that doesn't bother you, then you need to examine why you think it is ok that everyone else thinks you are an idiot. It could mean that you are a genius and no one understands you, or it could mean that you are an idiot. Hint: you are not a genius.
 
2012-11-20 11:32:01 AM

MycroftHolmes: your opinion that it is cost effective or even possible for cops to create a list of potential drinkers


Where on Lucifer's earth did say anything about a list?

A little Freudian slip there officer...? 

Don't worry. I WONT TELL ANYONE ABOUT THESE LISTS.
 
2012-11-20 11:34:39 AM

Godscrack: MycroftHolmes: your opinion that it is cost effective or even possible for cops to create a list of potential drinkers

Where on Lucifer's earth did say anything about a list?

A little Freudian slip there officer...? 

Don't worry. I WONT TELL ANYONE ABOUT THESE LISTS.


From you.

Police can hear all the cab dispatches anyway.

Then you're put on a watch list for being a drunk. Police keep tabs on you anytime they see you. Not a 'safe' as it looks.

Good luck citizen.
 
2012-11-20 11:40:55 AM
And I wont say a word about these lists.

God bless America.
 
2012-11-20 05:59:48 PM

CruiserTwelve: Godscrack: Who's to say it doesn't happen all the time.

Me.


I always thought the "cruiser" part of your handle was referring to something completely different.
 
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