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2012-11-18 10:30:37 AM
Am I in before Godzilla with a subway train?
 
2012-11-18 10:32:53 AM
Groping goodness!
 
2012-11-18 10:34:18 AM
This is a "Believe it or not" kinda thing. It was Ripley's, right?
 
2012-11-18 10:35:24 AM
WTF
 
2012-11-18 10:36:05 AM
I don't care what kind of hurry I'm in, I'll wait for the next train.
 
2012-11-18 10:38:13 AM
Is this just cherry picking a few extreme images or is it really this bad?
 
2012-11-18 10:39:22 AM
Uh, this is my stop. Excuse please, may I get out?
 
2012-11-18 10:39:35 AM

suziequzie: I don't care what kind of hurry I'm in, I'll wait for the next train.


The next train looks exactly like this train.
 
2012-11-18 10:39:38 AM
Chinese commuters can only envy the Japanese.

img.chinasmack.com

/hot
 
2012-11-18 10:40:37 AM
I been to Tokyo 3 times. I never seen it packed like that but then again I never dared to travel during rush hour.

/traveling with snowboard and travel kit
 
2012-11-18 10:40:57 AM
I've commuted to work via subway for most of my adult life and have been on plenty of uncomfortably crowded trains, smashed up against doors and smelly people, but this seems a bit ridiculous.
 
2012-11-18 10:41:15 AM
Meh, in general it's not that bad, I've did it for six years in Tokyo. You learn to cope with it, just put in your headphones and shut out the world. Personal hygiene standards are high, people aren't rude to eachother, everything goes in orderly fashion, and if you lucky you get to grope a girl in a high school uniform.
 
2012-11-18 10:41:16 AM
This video is older than the internet. Couldn't they have found something a tad more modern to use as an example?
 
2012-11-18 10:42:03 AM
I've had the distinct "pleasure" of riding the Tokaido line in Tokyo for about 12 minutes once (I think I was going from Kawasaki to Shinagawa but I don't exactly remember) during morning rush hour. Fortunately I am a big tall fat American and so I was able to look down the entire length of the car I was in, which helped a little.

When my ride was over I had to take a quick break to get myself together. Crazy commute.
 
2012-11-18 10:42:45 AM

forcebender: Is this just cherry picking a few extreme images or is it really this bad?


It can get to be that bad in Tokyo. I imagine it probably gets pretty bad in Osaka, as well. In Sapporo, I've never seen it get that bad. The station attendants up north will just tell you to wait for the next train, since there's one every four minutes during the morning rush.
 
2012-11-18 10:42:50 AM

WordsnCollision: Chinese commuters can only envy the Japanese.



/hot


China was a nasty place. I wouldn't go back.
 
2012-11-18 10:43:29 AM
Japanese GROPE Porn PLEASE
 
2012-11-18 10:45:09 AM
Where do I get one of them masks?
 
2012-11-18 10:45:25 AM
Chohisatsu Chikan Densha
 
2012-11-18 10:46:08 AM
I experienced a small panic attack from just looking at those photos
 
2012-11-18 10:47:43 AM

bwilson27: Groping goodness!


I don't think you could move your hand for a good grope in that situation.
 
2012-11-18 10:48:09 AM

WordsnCollision: Chinese commuters can only envy the Japanese.

[img.chinasmack.com image 542x438]

/hot


Chinese and Japanese communters can only envy the Americans:

www.facenfacts.com

Stinky woman urinates then showers on busy New York subway
 
2012-11-18 10:48:54 AM

CreativeFarkHandle: forcebender: Is this just cherry picking a few extreme images or is it really this bad?

It can get to be that bad in Tokyo. I imagine it probably gets pretty bad in Osaka, as well. In Sapporo, I've never seen it get that bad. The station attendants up north will just tell you to wait for the next train, since there's one every four minutes during the morning rush.


Nah, 15 years ago it was bad, but they have built more lines and train frequency increased. In the rush hour in most lines your are still packed against eachother, but as I said, you get used to it. I've hardly never seen the attendants pushing people in like in the video, unless there has been some serious delays, which hardly ever happens unless there is an earthquake or a typhoon or so.
 
2012-11-18 10:49:29 AM
It's not all bad. I never once heard anyone carry on a loud, brash, cellphone conversation while using any form of transit in Japan. It was wonderful.
 
2012-11-18 10:51:06 AM
Yeah, Chinese public transports sucks compared to the Japanese, but don't ever tell them that- you're likely to get the shiat kicked out of you while people scream "The Islands are China."
 
2012-11-18 10:52:29 AM
Wasn't that bad when I was there in 2007. It was packed, but no worse than the last time I rode the New York subway, and it was orders of magnitude cleaner.

Our 4th day in Tokyo, we took a picture of a piece of litter on the train, because it was the first one we had seen...
 
2012-11-18 10:53:13 AM
Still beats riding the L train teeming with wannabe hipsters.
 
2012-11-18 10:53:35 AM

CreativeFarkHandle: forcebender: Is this just cherry picking a few extreme images or is it really this bad?

It can get to be that bad in Tokyo. I imagine it probably gets pretty bad in Osaka, as well. In Sapporo, I've never seen it get that bad. The station attendants up north will just tell you to wait for the next train, since there's one every four minutes during the morning rush.


I've done rush hour in Osaka for four years, and it really isn't as bad as Tokyo, but you're still likely to be in actual physical contact with three or four other human beings for the duration of your ride. I've done the Tokyo thing too. It's just about like that, but you adapt quickly. Hell, half those people look like they're sleeping standing up, which is a popular activity on Japanese trains. Otherwise you put on some headphones and go to your happy place.

It's also only mornings. Since people work overtime to various ridiculous degrees there's not such an intense spike in ridership in the evening. I rarely went without a seat going home, although I'm a tall, skinny white guy and/ my Gaijin Perimeter TM gets me plenty of elbow room.
 
2012-11-18 10:53:56 AM
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2012-11-18 10:55:48 AM

WhippingBoy: It's not all bad. I never once heard anyone carry on a loud, brash, cellphone conversation while using any form of transit in Japan. It was wonderful.


Get on the train with a sufficiently elderly cell phone user and you'll find that it's not so uncommon. By which I mean you might see it happen for half a minute once a week. I know in Osaka at least the end cars are cell phone free and a conductor will come and ask you to put your phone away even if you're only reading or texting.
 
2012-11-18 10:56:42 AM
That is insane. I cant imagine why anyone would live like that. Just move to some other place. There are jobs elsewhere you know. Nothing it worth that shiat. At least not just to get to work or around town.

That said I see opportunity here. There are probably some cuties and there. Getting pressed up against one would probably not be the worst way to start the day. In such a situation it wouldnt be such an unusual thing to grind up againts the rump of some chick you dont know. ;)
 
2012-11-18 10:58:31 AM

bikkurikun: Meh, in general it's not that bad, I've did it for six years in Tokyo. You learn to cope with it, just put in your headphones and shut out the world. Personal hygiene standards are high, people aren't rude to eachother, everything goes in orderly fashion, and if you lucky you get to grope a girl in a high school uniform.


I've lived in Tokyo for three years and experienced this scenario once. After that, I avoided subways at rush hour.
Fortunately, Garufurendo loved her school uniform, so I didn't have to rely on crowded subways for that.
 
2012-11-18 10:59:16 AM
The Tube in London isn't much better, at least between Kings Cross and Old Street just after 8am when I take it every day. Quite frequently have to wait for two or more trains to pass before getting on, but they're every 1-2 minutes at that time of day.
 
2012-11-18 10:59:58 AM
Seriously, how do you get out when it's your stop? Do they empty and refill the car every time?
 
2012-11-18 11:01:05 AM
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/cue furious Japanese housewife in 3.. 2.. 1..
 
2012-11-18 11:01:42 AM
i.telegraph.co.uk

India is not impressed...
 
2012-11-18 11:02:10 AM
Imagine what that video would look like if Japan had America's obesity rates.
 
2012-11-18 11:02:47 AM

adm_crunch: Seriously, how do you get out when it's your stop? Do they empty and refill the car every time?


Yeah, people near the doors hop out and let people behind them out. You have to put a little planning into it and not let yourself get too far from the door, but there's a door every 6 or 7 meters. I've never missed a stop.
 
2012-11-18 11:03:50 AM

Koodz: CreativeFarkHandle: forcebender: Is this just cherry picking a few extreme images or is it really this bad?

It can get to be that bad in Tokyo. I imagine it probably gets pretty bad in Osaka, as well. In Sapporo, I've never seen it get that bad. The station attendants up north will just tell you to wait for the next train, since there's one every four minutes during the morning rush.

I've done rush hour in Osaka for four years, and it really isn't as bad as Tokyo, but you're still likely to be in actual physical contact with three or four other human beings for the duration of your ride. I've done the Tokyo thing too. It's just about like that, but you adapt quickly. Hell, half those people look like they're sleeping standing up, which is a popular activity on Japanese trains. Otherwise you put on some headphones and go to your happy place.


This explains Hikikomori perfectly. If I had to deal with that kind of thing on a daily basis, I'd never leave the apartment either.

/I don't like to be touched by anyone I'm not planning to have sex with.
//And before you ask, I don't like people in general enough to be that slutty.
 
2012-11-18 11:04:43 AM
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2012-11-18 11:04:45 AM

Ima4nic8or: That is insane. I cant imagine why anyone would live like that. Just move to some other place. There are jobs elsewhere you know. Nothing it worth that shiat. At least not just to get to work or around town.

That said I see opportunity here. There are probably some cuties and there. Getting pressed up against one would probably not be the worst way to start the day. In such a situation it wouldnt be such an unusual thing to grind up againts the rump of some chick you dont know. ;)


No. There seriously are not jobs elsewhere. Yes, it's kind of a positive feedback loop/self-fulfilling prophecy, but there's a reason about 1/5 of the population of the country lives in Tokyo.
 
2012-11-18 11:04:51 AM
I would still take that commute over this one any day.

farm4.static.flickr.com

Traffic jams make me want to saw my own head off.
 
2012-11-18 11:05:13 AM
DAMMIT MAN, WHAT ABOUT THE GOLF SHOES??
 
2012-11-18 11:05:21 AM
CSB:

I grew up in Manhattan in the 80s, and ended up living all over the island at different points in my childhood. For about three months, I took the 1 train to school from the Upper West to Chambers St during rush hour and on most days, it was packed tightly enough for the bit below 34th St. that you couldn't fall down if you wanted to.

I basically did what the people in these photos are doing. Turned up my WalkmanTM, closed my eyes, and shut out the world.

/CSB
 
2012-11-18 11:06:36 AM

gglibertine:
This explains Hikikomori perfectly. If I had to deal with that kind of thing on a daily basis, I'd never leave the apartment either.

/I don't like to be touched by anyone I'm not planning to have sex with.
//And before you ask, I don't like people in general enough to be that slutty.


Oh very much this. I can't even handle standing in line for more than a minute or two.
 
2012-11-18 11:09:28 AM
Horry krap!
 
2012-11-18 11:09:52 AM

gglibertine: Koodz: CreativeFarkHandle: forcebender: Is this just cherry picking a few extreme images or is it really this bad?

It can get to be that bad in Tokyo. I imagine it probably gets pretty bad in Osaka, as well. In Sapporo, I've never seen it get that bad. The station attendants up north will just tell you to wait for the next train, since there's one every four minutes during the morning rush.

I've done rush hour in Osaka for four years, and it really isn't as bad as Tokyo, but you're still likely to be in actual physical contact with three or four other human beings for the duration of your ride. I've done the Tokyo thing too. It's just about like that, but you adapt quickly. Hell, half those people look like they're sleeping standing up, which is a popular activity on Japanese trains. Otherwise you put on some headphones and go to your happy place.

This explains Hikikomori perfectly. If I had to deal with that kind of thing on a daily basis, I'd never leave the apartment either.

/I don't like to be touched by anyone I'm not planning to have sex with.
//And before you ask, I don't like people in general enough to be that slutty.


This is rush HOUR, dude. Roll out of bed at 0900 on a weekday and you can wander Tokyo freely and even get a seat on most trains. If you're making the money and have the time you can always spring for a taxi, too.

So you can't handle say, my arm, enclosed in my shirt and suit jacket, touching your arm, enclosed in your shirt and jacket? That sounds like a really difficult handicap to bear.
 
2012-11-18 11:10:17 AM

stiletto_the_wise: I would still take that commute over this one any day.

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Traffic jams make me want to saw my own head off.


I commute 48 mi each way. Traffic jams just dont bug me. I kick back, enjoy my coffee, listen to NPR and watch the scenery. Not a big deal. It would bug the shiat out of me if there were other people in the vehicle but solo is just fine. No wife and kids making noise, no dealing with batshiat insane coworkers. Just me and my thoughts. Its actually one of the more relaxing parts of my day.
 
2012-11-18 11:10:33 AM

gglibertine: Koodz: CreativeFarkHandle: forcebender: Is this just cherry picking a few extreme images or is it really this bad?

It can get to be that bad in Tokyo. I imagine it probably gets pretty bad in Osaka, as well. In Sapporo, I've never seen it get that bad. The station attendants up north will just tell you to wait for the next train, since there's one every four minutes during the morning rush.

I've done rush hour in Osaka for four years, and it really isn't as bad as Tokyo, but you're still likely to be in actual physical contact with three or four other human beings for the duration of your ride. I've done the Tokyo thing too. It's just about like that, but you adapt quickly. Hell, half those people look like they're sleeping standing up, which is a popular activity on Japanese trains. Otherwise you put on some headphones and go to your happy place.

This explains Hikikomori perfectly. If I had to deal with that kind of thing on a daily basis, I'd never leave the apartment either.

/I don't like to be touched by anyone I'm not planning to have sex with.
//And before you ask, I don't like people in general enough to be that slutty.


You don't look like you'd have a lot of trouble abstaining from sex anyway.

I'd say 'no offense,' but I'd be full of shiat.
 
2012-11-18 11:12:08 AM

forcebender: Is this just cherry picking a few extreme images or is it really this bad?


I've never seen people behaving like that in Tokyo. Literally pushing their way into a train. I've been on one very crowded train, but even that was comparable to crowded trains in the SF Bay Area during rush hour (or after a Giants game).

I'm not saying this isn't real, it's just not something that is representative of any experience I've ever had.

The weirdest thing to me is that Japan is a hyper-polite society when it comes to not bothering people around you. It's the height of rudeness to talk on your cell phone on a train, or for a woman to apply her make-up there, so to see that old video where people are shoving each other into the car just seems wrong somehow.
 
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