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(Onion AV Club)   An interview with Britain's most celebrated living author, the wonderful Terry Pratchett, who is responsible for the Discworld series and arguably the greatest book about the apocalypse, Good Omens   (avclub.com) divider line 78
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2012-11-18 03:12:16 AM  

optikeye: "Going Postal" was a good starting point for me


If I may interrupt- try Making Money, next. I think that you will thank me later. And then Feet of Clay.
 
2012-11-18 03:18:19 AM  

Shadowtag: HighZoolander: I got through about 30 pages of Good Omens before I started hating it. I think it's only the second book (out of hundreds if not thousands) that I've ever started and not finished.

What bothered me most were the incessant "x, y, funny" examples and elaborations that I didn't see the humor in.

Why do people love it?

You read a satirical novel and didn't get that it was satire? I think it isn't so much something is wrong with the book, as something is wrong with you.


I don't remember if I got that it was satire or not in the little of it that I read, but even assuming that I had gotten that (I may have even been told that before I read it), just the fact that it's satire would not have kept me reading past the barrage of tired jokes.

So, you love it just because it was satirical? Not for any other reason?

Clearly I missed whatever humor was present in the book, although I do find it funny that you think something must be wrong with me because I don't love what you love.
 
2012-11-18 03:20:59 AM  
For me Wyrd Sisters did it, by the by- a well read copy, with half a cover and I went "expletive times 5, in my head"
This is worth reading. Your Mileage May Vary. Also- the audio books all really are well done. Briggs = the best reader, but you might think different. Each book can take a while and is pretty entertaining if you lack the time to read, so i will throw that out there.
Yeah, I will pitch his wares and get nothing. I do that for good folks, and, for me , I consider myself lucky to haved lived during Terry Pratchett s'time on this rock ( amongst many others ) a blessing.
So that good, but reality tv is still here. Advantage- me
 
2012-11-18 03:29:05 AM  
Holy crap. I had no idea there were this many people on Fark with terrible taste. Seriously? Hating onPratchett? There are things open to debate and opinion, and there are things that aren't. "Not my style" That's an opinion. "He's not as good as people say", that would be just wrong. "Oh sure, everyone SAYS the sun rises daily, but I don't think so." That's where you're at.
 
2012-11-18 05:36:15 AM  

alienated: optikeye: "Going Postal" was a good starting point for me

If I may interrupt- try Making Money, next. I think that you will thank me later. And then Feet of Clay.


The Truth is also a great stand alone book.

Got a soft spot for Carpe Diem. Like a very good Hammer Horror film.
 
2012-11-18 05:40:15 AM  
Oops that should be The Fith Elephant. Great book
 
2012-11-18 07:02:49 AM  
If you don't like whatever Pratchett book you started to read just try another one. There are so many genres covered, some heavier on the comedy than others, some with more socio-political comment, some with more magical stuff, some with less, just pick something else. I'd find it hard to pick a favourite, but I'm a big fan of Sam Vimes. He's a deeply flawed character which is always a better read than the standard issue hero.
 
2012-11-18 07:16:15 AM  
Giving advice on which books to read is nice. But remember that some should be read before others.

I thought this was a helpful guide (new window)

Even though some novels are better than others, I've enjoyed each one. If for no other reason than to be in the discworld universe again.

I'll even give honorable mention to the animated "Soul Music" movie. Whoever wrote the music has a good ear to mimic the various music styles. I think it and "Wyrd Sisters" are on Netflix.
 
2012-11-18 07:18:48 AM  
I didn't really like "Good Omens".

And I'm not a troll. Seriously. I just don't like it. My wife actually wanted a divorce when I said that.

I've just read and seen too many anti-christ/apocalypse fiction to really get into it anymore.

And Heinlen's "Job: A Comedy of Justice" was the greatest Biblical apocalypse novel of all time. OF ALL TIME.
 
2012-11-18 07:38:15 AM  
After he was knighted, one of the first things he did was forge his own sword.
He used some Meteorite fragments for good measure.

Link

/Thunderbolt Iron
// Sword should show up as a D&D artifact one of these days
 
2012-11-18 08:42:29 AM  

bobbette: To start off with... Margaret Atwood's The Handmaid's Tale and Oryx & Crake, World War Z by Max Brooks, Cat's Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut, and Girlfriend in a Coma by Douglas Coupland. I think you'd also probably like Y: The Last Man.


Thanks, I've read Handmaid's Tale, World War Z, and Cat's Cradle, but I'll give Oryx and Cake and Girlfriend in a Coma a try, probably Y as well. Although the new Dresden book is soon and has priority.

/And +5 cool points for not recommending The Road
 
2012-11-18 10:33:44 AM  
So I've been thinking of getting into the Discworld books. I read Colour of Magic a few years ago and did like it quite a bit. For the reading order of other books, is it good enough to simply pick a series (Rincewind/Death/Watch/Witches), and just read those books in order? Or is it necessary to read certain series/books before other ones?
 
2012-11-18 10:56:46 AM  

deaccessioned: bobbette: Good Omens is a pretty good book, but it's been overhyped by nerds worse than Monty Python and the Holy Grail. I wouldn't even say it's the best book I've read about an apocalypse. It wouldn't even crack my top 10.

/Sacred cows make the best hamburger

What books about the apocalypse would you recommend? It's looking to be a long cold winter, and I need some reading material.


The Stand by Stephen King (uncut version)

Swan Song by Robert McCammon
 
2012-11-18 11:09:25 AM  

NeoCortex42: So I've been thinking of getting into the Discworld books. I read Colour of Magic a few years ago and did like it quite a bit. For the reading order of other books, is it good enough to simply pick a series (Rincewind/Death/Watch/Witches), and just read those books in order? Or is it necessary to read certain series/books before other ones?


I don't think you need to read any series before others. The characters within the series are independent. There is some cross over between the series. There is a scene with Nobby Nobbs and Sgt Colon in most books, and Death in everyone I can remember. But it isn't part of the plot.Not like the confusion you would experience if you read Guards, Guards! after Nightwatch. I would read the Watch series first. But that is my fav so take that with a grain of salt. Of course, If you start with the Death series now you could be reading Hogfather around Dec 25 which would work out pretty well.
 
2012-11-18 11:10:39 AM  
All this Pratchett hate?

Wow, it's like I'm really on /lit/.
 
2012-11-18 11:28:19 AM  
What made Pratchett on of my favorite authours is the simple line:

"... it lay in wait, like a rake in the grass..."

After I read that line I went out and bought everything he wrote, and I buy new books as they come out. Some are not as good as others. "Moving Pictures" seems to be a long set up for a single joke, it's a funny joke but still. Where "Soul Music" is sort of the same story but much more readable IMHO. I've read 4 different paperback copies of "Guards, Guards" and even a hardcover edition literally to pieces.
 
2012-11-18 12:28:10 PM  

The_Philosopher_King: If you start with the Death series now you could be reading Hogfather around Dec 25 which would work out pretty well.


And be watching the movie(my tradition now a family tradition for christmas eve)
 
2012-11-18 02:37:08 PM  
There are few books I've laughed harder and more consistently with than Good Omens.
 
2012-11-18 05:04:07 PM  

NeoCortex42: So I've been thinking of getting into the Discworld books. I read Colour of Magic a few years ago and did like it quite a bit. For the reading order of other books, is it good enough to simply pick a series (Rincewind/Death/Watch/Witches), and just read those books in order? Or is it necessary to read certain series/books before other ones?


You don't really need to pay attention to order, just be aware that there is one. Every book stands alone, but many of them reference events from others, and the 'sub-groups' often have people visiting from other sub-groups. Eventually all the puzzle pieces fit together, but no book actually depends on any other. Death is in all of them.
 
2012-11-18 06:31:26 PM  
I love Discworlds, especially the ones with Moist Von Lipwig being shanghaied into running the weirdy fantasy version of some government edifice.
 
2012-11-18 08:14:58 PM  
Currently reading Night Watch in my umpteenth re-read of the Vimes books. During this readthrough, I've decided that the tune of the song in it is "Shortnin' Bread." Or if you like Prairie Home Companion, "Rhubarb Pie."

All the little angels rise up, rise up,
All the little angels rise up high.
 
2012-11-18 11:10:02 PM  

kmmontandon: Is it bad that I've got that book almost entirely memorized, including (or, rather, especially) the footnotes?
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Can't be worse than me having it in my "oughtta read this someday" pile right here in front of me for maybe 9 months now.

Along with a couple of Ludlums....
 
2012-11-19 02:26:45 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: I'm ashamed to admit this, but I'm trying to slog through "Color of Magic," and I just don't think it's very good. It's not clever or amusing or entertaining. I don't see what the attraction is. Is there a better Discworld book I should be reading?


Start with "Guard, Guards"
 
2012-11-19 07:00:22 AM  
Thanks for the advice, all. I'll give Guards, Guards a try, just to say I gave Pratchett a fair shake.
 
2012-11-19 08:46:09 AM  
I've read almost everything Sir Terry has put out, and while it's not all gold, it's all worth reading.


/"You dwarves really love gold, don't you."
//"We only say that to get it into bed."
 
2012-11-19 11:56:57 AM  

PirateKing: /"You dwarves really love gold, don't you."
//"We only say that to get it into bed."


Dwarves also love rat onna stick, with catsup.
 
2012-11-19 05:42:34 PM  
Man.. i LOVE terry but good omens was complete ass.. amazing idea badly executed...
 
2012-11-19 06:10:04 PM  

deaccessioned: bobbette: To start off with... Margaret Atwood's The Handmaid's Tale and Oryx & Crake, World War Z by Max Brooks, Cat's Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut, and Girlfriend in a Coma by Douglas Coupland. I think you'd also probably like Y: The Last Man.

Thanks, I've read Handmaid's Tale, World War Z, and Cat's Cradle, but I'll give Oryx and Cake and Girlfriend in a Coma a try, probably Y as well. Although the new Dresden book is soon and has priority.

/And +5 cool points for not recommending The Road


Old school post-apoc: A Canticle for Liebowitz, The Wanderer (Fritz Lieber), and naturally, I Am Legend (Richard Matheson) The Lieber book isn't as good as the others, but all three are quite interesting.

Re: Pratchett. I read them all in order in college, borrowing them from a guy down the hall in the dorm, but didn't really remember much of them because I mainlined 20-25 books in about 2 weeks. The first new one I noticed and bought for myself was Night's Watch, which immediately got me hooked again. Since then, I've been reading them when they showed up in the used book store, and now that I've moved away, I've filled out the rest of the shelf off the internet. Still need to get a copy of Snuff, but I have the rest of them.

Far and away the best place to start is Guards, Guards. Everything else about the series eventually crosses paths with Ankh-Morpork, and Guards, Guards is the best introduction to the city (it's like a wossername) and the interplay between Vimes and Vetinari is just excellent writing. If you're not going to start with the Watch, start with Death (Mort is the first one) and that'll get you rolling quite nicely. Rincewind and the Witches sort of weave in and out around the edges, but they were also some of the earliest books, so it's harder to get into those series. It definitely pays off, though, about the time you get to Witches Abroad and Lords and Ladies.

Anyway, my .02. He's a great author.
 
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