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(Onion AV Club)   An interview with Britain's most celebrated living author, the wonderful Terry Pratchett, who is responsible for the Discworld series and arguably the greatest book about the apocalypse, Good Omens   (avclub.com) divider line 78
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2012-11-17 06:34:07 PM  
Normally I hate that site, subby, but this was a good read. Thanks.
Some NSFW words, but its Terry, so...what would anyone expect ?
 
2012-11-17 06:41:51 PM  
Is it bad that I've got that book almost entirely memorized, including (or, rather, especially) the footnotes?


\Shadwell hated Southerners, and was, by inference, on the North Pole.
\\"And the Lord did not ask again."
\\\"So they would be quite large terrorists."
 
2012-11-17 06:43:29 PM  
Awesome. I just started "Good Omens" and am only about a chapter in. Sounds like I have a helluva read in front of me.
 
2012-11-17 06:49:44 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Awesome. I just started "Good Omens" and am only about a chapter in. Sounds like I have a helluva read in front of me.


You do. Good Omens is one of those books you keep coming back to and discover something new. Every Easter, I read Good Omens and Lamb.

kmmontandon: Is it bad that I've got that book almost entirely memorized, including (or, rather, especially) the footnotes?


Demons like Ligur and Hastur wouldn't understand. They'd never have thought up Welsh language television, for example. Or value-added tax. Or Manchester. He'd been particularly pleased with Manchester.
 
2012-11-17 08:18:25 PM  
Crivens!
 
2012-11-17 08:35:32 PM  
Good Omens is one of my favorite reads.
 
2012-11-17 08:53:19 PM  
I love Terry Pratchett! Amazing author, and awesome books. 'Good Omens' is one of my favourites.
 
2012-11-17 08:55:01 PM  
The road to hell isn't paved with good intentions; it's paved with frozen door-to-door salesmen.
 
2012-11-17 08:57:09 PM  
Good article, looking forward to some of his books now.
 
2012-11-17 09:00:22 PM  
Good Omens is a pretty good book, but it's been overhyped by nerds worse than Monty Python and the Holy Grail. I wouldn't even say it's the best book I've read about an apocalypse. It wouldn't even crack my top 10.

/Sacred cows make the best hamburger
 
2012-11-17 09:06:36 PM  
I was really put off of his work after he abandoned mocking the fantasy genre to churn out fantacrap but I was really surprised at the ability he showed in the Tiffany Aching series. Then again, I read about drow elves and I vote.
 
2012-11-17 09:08:11 PM  

SockMonkeyHolocaust: I was really put off of his work after he abandoned mocking the fantasy genre to churn out fantacrap but I was really surprised at the ability he showed in the Tiffany Aching series. Then again, I read about drow elves and I vote.


He didn't do "fantacrap." He's been writing serious satirical literature for a while now. Nightwatch is a phenomenal piece of political satire.
 
2012-11-17 09:13:21 PM  
I really like Terry's Discworld books, but I was kind of 'meh' on Good Omens. I thought it was pretty good, but I don't have any real urge to read it again.
 
2012-11-17 09:15:38 PM  
All y'all who say you don't like Terry Pratchett are WRONG.
 
2012-11-17 09:17:22 PM  
If you say so but the character of Sam Vimes is incredibly one-dimensional in the books he stars in and hey, time traveling story line where he has to fix the past to return to the future while the author re-uses a large majority of the same jokes he's reused in a number of other books.

You can make the case, and Sherwood Schwartz did, that Gilligan's Island was a microcosm of the UN but it didn't make it good. I'll admit that Night Watch was less of a mess than Pratchett's usual books are, but that has been the exception.
 
2012-11-17 09:35:53 PM  
I thought the Harry Potter chick was the most celebrated British author currently alive. How do we determine this celebration factor? Millions/book or Likes on facebook?
 
2012-11-17 09:36:32 PM  

SockMonkeyHolocaust: Sam Vimes is incredibly one-dimensional in the books he stars in


I have to disagree. I wont spoil it for folks who have not read any of the books, but he does go from a bit player to multifaceted major character in short order. Now true, hes a cop, but he becomes so much more....
/thats my 2 sausages in a bun from Dibbler
 
2012-11-17 09:38:46 PM  

Rincewind53: All y'all who say you don't like Terry Pratchett are WRONG.


This is correct. And it wouldn't be a Pratchett thread without Rincewind.
 
2012-11-17 09:45:33 PM  
I got through about 30 pages of Good Omens before I started hating it. I think it's only the second book (out of hundreds if not thousands) that I've ever started and not finished.

What bothered me most were the incessant "x, y, funny" examples and elaborations that I didn't see the humor in.

Why do people love it?
 
2012-11-17 09:46:12 PM  

BumpInTheNight: I thought the Harry Potter chick was the most celebrated British author currently alive. How do we determine this celebration factor? Millions/book or Likes on facebook?


Nah, she's the best-selling British author.

But Terry is deeply likable and deeply loved in the UK.
 
2012-11-17 09:50:43 PM  
F*cking fantasy nerds. Can't even get their own sh*t togehter. JK Rowlings is by far the UK's most celebrated living author. With or without the lame mass-market "fantasy" qualifier. Whatever. Half of you haven't read Lucky Jim.
 
2012-11-17 09:51:41 PM  

bobbette: Good Omens is a pretty good book, but it's been overhyped by nerds worse than Monty Python and the Holy Grail. I wouldn't even say it's the best book I've read about an apocalypse. It wouldn't even crack my top 10.

/Sacred cows make the best hamburger


2/10. If you really wanted to troll, you could point out how unlikely it is that he'll finish another book.

/Article doesn't mention he's already willed Discworld to his daughter to continue when he can't write it anymore.
 
2012-11-17 10:05:27 PM  
No love for Neil? He did help, after all.
 
2012-11-17 10:07:57 PM  

fusillade762: No love for Neil? He did help, after all.


I'll bring all the love for him if he bothers to do the sequel to American Gods.
 
2012-11-17 10:10:15 PM  

alienated: fusillade762: No love for Neil? He did help, after all.

I'll bring all the love for him if he bothers to do the sequel to American Gods.


Did you not read Anansi Boys or the short story he released in Fragile Things that followed American Gods?
 
2012-11-17 10:21:27 PM  
I'm ashamed to admit this, but I'm trying to slog through "Color of Magic," and I just don't think it's very good. It's not clever or amusing or entertaining. I don't see what the attraction is. Is there a better Discworld book I should be reading?
 
2012-11-17 10:26:47 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: I'm ashamed to admit this, but I'm trying to slog through "Color of Magic," and I just don't think it's very good. It's not clever or amusing or entertaining. I don't see what the attraction is. Is there a better Discworld book I should be reading?


Yes, nearly all of them. Color of Magic and Light fantastic are not the best to start on really. Try Weird Sisters or Guards Guards. Of course I'm biased as they are my two favorites.
 
2012-11-17 10:33:30 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: I'm ashamed to admit this, but I'm trying to slog through "Color of Magic," and I just don't think it's very good. It's not clever or amusing or entertaining. I don't see what the attraction is. Is there a better Discworld book I should be reading?


If you are trying to get into Discworld, read Guards Guards! It's the start of the Nightwatch sub-series and in my opinion the best of the books to start the different sub-series. The other early books are not as good. Guards Guards! is where Terry Pratchett starts to hit his stride.
 
2012-11-17 10:34:34 PM  
Good Omens was frippin' brilliant. Though in fairness, part of that was also in Neil Gaiman's hands.
 
2012-11-17 10:38:58 PM  
I loved American Gods and sort of tolerated Anansi Boys, but most of the descriptions I've seen of Terry Pratchett's books make them look overly focused on the fantasy. I might have to pick up a copy of Good Omens, if all the reviews were misstating things.
 
2012-11-17 10:40:37 PM  
Unseen Academicals was crap
 
2012-11-17 10:45:14 PM  
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that Britain's most celebrated living author is JK Rowling.
 
2012-11-17 10:47:56 PM  
Mr. Pratchett's is like PG Wodehouse, Patrick O'Brian and other hyper-productive geniuses: he's got some great stuff and he's got some crap. *Cough*Monstrous Regiment*Cough*.

But that interview -- God Almighty, that interviewer makes Jay Leno look deft and empathetic.
 
2012-11-17 10:49:28 PM  

bobbette: Good Omens is a pretty good book, but it's been overhyped by nerds worse than Monty Python and the Holy Grail. I wouldn't even say it's the best book I've read about an apocalypse. It wouldn't even crack my top 10.

/Sacred cows make the best hamburger


What books about the apocalypse would you recommend? It's looking to be a long cold winter, and I need some reading material.
 
2012-11-17 10:51:20 PM  

HighZoolander: I got through about 30 pages of Good Omens before I started hating it. I think it's only the second book (out of hundreds if not thousands) that I've ever started and not finished.

What bothered me most were the incessant "x, y, funny" examples and elaborations that I didn't see the humor in.

Why do people love it?


You read a satirical novel and didn't get that it was satire? I think it isn't so much something is wrong with the book, as something is wrong with you.
 
2012-11-17 10:54:44 PM  

deaccessioned: bobbette: Good Omens is a pretty good book, but it's been overhyped by nerds worse than Monty Python and the Holy Grail. I wouldn't even say it's the best book I've read about an apocalypse. It wouldn't even crack my top 10.

/Sacred cows make the best hamburger

What books about the apocalypse would you recommend? It's looking to be a long cold winter, and I need some reading material.


I'd start with Decision Points.
/sarcasm

Seriously, I'm going to miss him when he goes - I'm a huge fan of Pratchett.

greentea1985: Prank Call of Cthulhu: I'm ashamed to admit this, but I'm trying to slog through "Color of Magic," and I just don't think it's very good. It's not clever or amusing or entertaining. I don't see what the attraction is. Is there a better Discworld book I should be reading?

If you are trying to get into Discworld, read Guards Guards! It's the start of the Nightwatch sub-series and in my opinion the best of the books to start the different sub-series. The other early books are not as good. Guards Guards! is where Terry Pratchett starts to hit his stride.


Can't emphasize that choice enough - you'll enjoy the earlier books more once you read the later books, starting with Guards Guards!
 
2012-11-17 10:56:21 PM  

Whoatherebabie: Yes, nearly all of them. Color of Magic and Light fantastic are not the best to start on really.


Unless, like me, you like to see how the world evolves...

(starred with Lords and Ladies)
 
2012-11-17 11:14:57 PM  

baka-san: Whoatherebabie: Yes, nearly all of them. Color of Magic and Light fantastic are not the best to start on really.

Unless, like me, you like to see how the world evolves...

(starred with Lords and Ladies)


I've read the whole series in the order they were published and loved them all, so I did start with Color of Magic & Light Fantastic. For some reason many people do get stuck trying to start with those.

Love me some Granny & Vimes, I can't even remember how may times I've read those books.
 
2012-11-17 11:22:44 PM  
I am so relieved his Alzheimers is not progressing at the rate they expected. A world without Pterry seems like a bleak prospect.
Love Good Omens, one of the few books I could actually tolerate listening to in the car as well. Normally I can't stand audio books,but GO just can't go wrong with me.
 
2012-11-17 11:29:35 PM  

HotWingAgenda: I loved American Gods and sort of tolerated Anansi Boys, but most of the descriptions I've seen of Terry Pratchett's books make them look overly focused on the fantasy. I might have to pick up a copy of Good Omens, if all the reviews were misstating things.


Diskworld books are satire and societal commentary dressed up as fantasy. Don't worry about the fantasy label -- it's just the setting, and it makes everything work.
 
2012-11-17 11:35:56 PM  

deaccessioned: bobbette: Good Omens is a pretty good book, but it's been overhyped by nerds worse than Monty Python and the Holy Grail. I wouldn't even say it's the best book I've read about an apocalypse. It wouldn't even crack my top 10.

/Sacred cows make the best hamburger

What books about the apocalypse would you recommend? It's looking to be a long cold winter, and I need some reading material.


To start off with... Margaret Atwood's The Handmaid's Tale and Oryx & Crake, World War Z by Max Brooks, Cat's Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut, and Girlfriend in a Coma by Douglas Coupland. I think you'd also probably like Y: The Last Man.
 
2012-11-17 11:52:23 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Awesome. I just started "Good Omens" and am only about a chapter in. Sounds like I have a helluva read in front of me.


It's not Terry's best book. But it's certainly Gaiman's.
 
2012-11-18 12:00:22 AM  
I'm pretty much a diehard Anglophile, but other than Good Omens I haven't been able to get into Pratchett's other stuff. It's just so.... goofy. Like every line has to be a joke or a pun. It felt like the literary equivalent of an Adam Sandler movie.

Though before I get flamed I'm going to try again. Probably "Guards, Guards" since everyone is recommending it.


bobbette: deaccessioned: bobbette: Good Omens is a pretty good book, but it's been overhyped by nerds worse than Monty Python and the Holy Grail. I wouldn't even say it's the best book I've read about an apocalypse. It wouldn't even crack my top 10.

/Sacred cows make the best hamburger

What books about the apocalypse would you recommend? It's looking to be a long cold winter, and I need some reading material.

To start off with... Margaret Atwood's The Handmaid's Tale and Oryx & Crake, World War Z by Max Brooks, Cat's Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut, and Girlfriend in a Coma by Douglas Coupland. I think you'd also probably like Y: The Last Man.


Seconded on Y: The Last Man. Though I can't say I was happy with the way it ended.

Lucifer's Hammer is an old favorite. And this one was... interesting. 

d.gr-assets.com
 
2012-11-18 01:05:19 AM  

bobbette: To start off with... Margaret Atwood's The Handmaid's Tale.


The scary thing is there are a lot of people in America today who would probably be happy if this became a reality. (I'm not one of them).

----

As for Prachett, I've not been too keen on his latest books. Something feels off about them. But then again, I never liked some of the earlier ones (Pyramids, Equal Rites) either.

And the more I read Monstrous Regiment the more it grows on me.
 
2012-11-18 01:47:51 AM  
An ex got me into Pratchett, lent me "Guards! Guards!", and I loved it. It's like Monty Python's Flying Circus type british humour in a detective story set in some fantasy place. 3 Great tastes in one.
 
2012-11-18 02:05:12 AM  
So who would be a good actor to play Vimes? William Hurt? Liam Neeson?
 
2012-11-18 02:05:52 AM  
My first Pratchett book was Guards!, Guards!.

It sat in a drawer for about two years before I read it. And then, my mind was blown.

However, I'm not really seeing any mention of the fnord Bromliad, or Johnny and the Bomb/Only You Can Save Mankind, fnord or Nation.

If I could point to five books that fnord pointed out my own fnord philosophy to me, four of fnord them would be Terry Pratchett books fnord (Nation, Hogfather, Small Gods, Reaper Man)

/fnord
//You should be able to figure out the fnord fifth.
 
2012-11-18 02:17:25 AM  
I was pretty drunk by the time I got halfway through Good Omens, so I'm probably a bad judge of whether it's actually good or not. Incidentally, doing a border crossing from one communist country to another while drunk was probably not one of my finest hours.
 
2012-11-18 02:30:04 AM  

Soymilk: So who would be a good actor to play Vimes? William Hurt? Liam Neeson?


Terry himself always wanted the late Pete Postlethwaite. While I agree he would have done a very good job, I've always pictured Alun Armstrong. Not as high profile as Hurt or Neeson, but he does play stubborn, cynical-with-an-ironclad-code-of-honor with the best of them. He can play comedy too, and he just *looks* like he's spent thirty years walking a beat in the Shades.
 
2012-11-18 02:35:48 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: I'm ashamed to admit this, but I'm trying to slog through "Color of Magic," and I just don't think it's very good. It's not clever or amusing or entertaining. I don't see what the attraction is. Is there a better Discworld book I should be reading?


I tried starting "in order" and put it away for many years.
"Going Postal" was a good starting point for me, a bit of Victorian steam punk type tech, and a con-man. No big fantasy wizard plots, but other fantasy themes along with some political stuff.

After that, back tracked to the guards/night watch series, Death series, and finally the witches series.
For me "Going Postal" was the perfect book to get hooked on "discworld" as it didn't have a lot of sword and magic stuff. (but still some elements of that).
 
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