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2012-11-17 08:37:05 PM
Hopefully they do what the X3 could not, build a compelling story and adapt the interface to suite the need. Running a thriving trade empire out of the cockpit of your current ship is no way to go through life son.

/otherwise that is the crack you desire to hold you over, my god is that game ever pretty
 
2012-11-17 09:10:37 PM

neuroflare: JohnnyC: madgonad: I'm stoked that they are allowing boarding and EVA actions including combat. I guess I wasn't the only one paying attention while watching Firefly.

Well... if it hits 4 million it they are. Magnetic boots FTW. :)

They're just shy of 4.5 mil. They could conceivably reach carrier level by the time they're out. I am more and more intrigued about this the more I think about it.

/this might be the first crowdfunded project I invest in


Oh! Cool! It's gone up since the last time I refreshed. One of the things I'm looking forward to is designing ships and submitting them so I can sell them in-game. Still at $4,415,322. I'm not certain I would personally want a carrier. I imagine that is one of those things that a group of people work towards. I'm just looking for a sturdy hull, nice engines, and enough firepower to punch a hole through anyone's cockpit that wrongly assumes I'm easy pickings. :)

I'm in at the $35 level. Wing Commander was a very influential game for me. I'm very excited to get in the cockpit (or bridge) of my very own ship and light it up out there. :D
 
2012-11-17 09:18:50 PM

LazarusLong42: Kickstarters


Kickstarter is not the only form of crowd funding.
 
2012-11-17 09:23:11 PM

JohnnyC: I'm in at the $35 level. Wing Commander was a very influential game for me. I'm very excited to get in the cockpit (or bridge) of my very own ship and light it up out there. :D


I bit on the $35 a minute ago, alpha access convinced me. I farking loved wing commander (and descent) no matter how sick they made me.
 
2012-11-17 09:29:13 PM
I see no way I could get a carrier BTW, I just love the idea that if I so chose, I could possibly be Henry Gloval at the helm of my own SDF-1.
 
2012-11-17 09:29:49 PM

neuroflare: I see no way I could get a carrier BTW, I just love the idea that if I so chose, I could possibly be Henry Gloval at the helm of my own SDF-1.


That doesn't transform.
 
2012-11-17 09:38:49 PM

Chief_ Danz153A: Recipe:
1. Take large portion of EVE and stir in equal portions of RPG and Pew-Pew. Wait for dough to rise (kickstarter).
2. Take my money. Take it. Give me the game. GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME.
3. Gather up all your free time and throw it on your laptop.

/ is itching his arm like a meth head.


You better have a helluva laptop, sir.
 
2012-11-17 09:46:48 PM
In two years time... I will *indeed* have a helluva laptop.

I need to game on the fly damnit. Damn Army moves me too much to carry a tower. I just wish laptops were easier to modify. The soldering iron doesn't quite cut it on these things nowadays. Hmm... I guess I need to upgrade m'tools too.

Kickstarter: Buy Chief_Danz an Uber laptop! Haha.
At the $30 level, I'll be your tailgunner for a week!

Oh kickstarter. So silly.
 
2012-11-17 10:10:06 PM

neuroflare: JohnnyC: I'm in at the $35 level. Wing Commander was a very influential game for me. I'm very excited to get in the cockpit (or bridge) of my very own ship and light it up out there. :D

I bit on the $35 a minute ago, alpha access convinced me. I farking loved wing commander (and descent) no matter how sick they made me.


Your Recruit Count Total: 0

Haha! Did you give subby a recruiting point? Welcome aboard! Perhaps we'll see each other out there someday!
 
2012-11-17 10:50:10 PM

JohnnyC: Did you give subby a recruiting point?


I wandered around the site, bookmarked the main page, and waffled for a few hours before buying, so in short, no.
 
2012-11-17 11:26:03 PM
I'm in also. And no one got recruit credit. Looking forward to the betas.
 
2012-11-17 11:58:11 PM

Teufelaffe: ZeroCorpse: Look, nobody pays me ahead of time for a book that I plan to write and release in two years' time.

You have no idea how the publishing business works, do you?


Actually, I do. `Better than I care to expand on in this forum.

But if you're not completely obtuse, you know damn well I was referring to individuals, and not publishing companies. John Q. Public doesn't pay his $25 for a hardcover version of a book that hasn't yet been written. Stephen King doesn't go online and say "I plan to write a novel about gypsies and ghosts. It will be very long and interesting. All I need you to do is give me your $25, and in two years when the book is finished I will send you a copy. Of course, there's no guarantee that I finish it on time, or at all, but in the event that I don't die some time in the next two years, and I keep my focus on this project, and all goes according to plan, you will get your copy before 2015, I'm sure."

He probably could do that, but he doesn't.

/And not all publishing involves advances, either.
 
2012-11-18 12:27:27 AM

crab66: LazarusLong42: Kickstarters

Kickstarter is not the only form of crowd funding.


No one thinks you're cool for being enigmatic about what other crowd-funded game projects have exceeded $4.2 million.
 
2012-11-18 01:14:36 AM

neuroflare: JohnnyC: Did you give subby a recruiting point?

I wandered around the site, bookmarked the main page, and waffled for a few hours before buying, so in short, no.


Right on. I tried to get a couple of my friends to get in on it with me, but none of them joined up. I usually end up making lots of new friends in games like these... well... online games with a social element to it.

I play Mechwarrior Online (in Open Beta right now) as well. It's pretty cool, plenty of bugs and they're still fleshing the whole thing out, but it is definitely "mechwarrior-ish". It's free to play if you want to give it a go.

ZeroCorpse: John Q. Public doesn't pay his $25 for a hardcover version of a book that hasn't yet been written...


Well... I'm not entirely sure, but I think the final game will cost $60. So assuming the game is released (which I'm confident it will be) I'll have essentially saved $25 with my investment. And gotten more for my money since I get a bonus ship, in game credits, and early access. Also, I haven't heard of people crowd-funding a book. I'm sure people have probably tried though.

What exactly is your problem with other people funding a game development project? Is your problem with games in general, just this game, or crowd funding? Or did you just feel like being contrary today and we were the lucky few who get to witness that?
 
2012-11-18 01:20:50 AM

JohnnyC: I play Mechwarrior Online (in Open Beta right now) as well. It's pretty cool, plenty of bugs and they're still fleshing the whole thing out, but it is definitely "mechwarrior-ish". It's free to play if you want to give it a go.


I've been playing that as well, got a standard config commando last week but haven't played much since. It seems we played similar games many, many years ago.

/played tabletop battletech
 
2012-11-18 02:21:32 AM
I really cannot wait for the wave of kickstarter failures that are due over the next couple years.

People are gonna be PISSSED when they find out that their Occulus Rift ski goggles are actually useless for just about all modern 3d gaming, and that the resolution is going to be utter crap.

If you know, they ever get released at all.

Did anyone who donated for that piece of junk take a moment to realize that mouse look controls where you go in a FPS game, and that by binding mouselook to head movement, you become incapable of turning, since you always have to bring your head back center, meaning you start going whatever direction your avatar was going at the start of the level? The only person who could use them is Linda Blair.

Flight and racing simulators are a bit better, since you really just want to control head movement in those games, but you're wearing goggles that completely obscure your view of your controllers. Even with a HOTAS you've gotta look down at the controls once in a while to press buttons.

Finally, they'll never be able to squeeze a high enough resolution into a display that size.

/soooo much pointless vaporware on kickstarter
//I donated 5 bucks to the space elevator project. In 3 years they said they'd take me for a ride on the finished product.
 
2012-11-18 03:01:04 AM

neuroflare: JohnnyC: I play Mechwarrior Online (in Open Beta right now) as well. It's pretty cool, plenty of bugs and they're still fleshing the whole thing out, but it is definitely "mechwarrior-ish". It's free to play if you want to give it a go.

I've been playing that as well, got a standard config commando last week but haven't played much since. It seems we played similar games many, many years ago.

/played tabletop battletech


I used to play tabletop as well. I have a Catapult A1, but they nerfed the hell out of my configuration with the last patch, so I'm saving up to buy a Jenner D (maybe an F). I'm a few hundred thousand short right now... I'll get it soon enough.

When I was 12 or 13 I showed up a tabletop RPG club at the local university (Western Michigan University). I was the youngest one there for the first couple years, but they were really cool people. Luckily, as long as I let my Mom know where I was going, I didn't have a curfew. I played games with those folks almost every Friday night for years. Good fun for a younger me. :)

I'm excited to get into this game. I love space flight/combat sim/games. Need a new joystick though.
 
2012-11-18 03:04:07 AM
Oh... and I found this picture of J. Allen Brack (guy who worked on Wing Commander 3 and the Jump to Lightspeed expansion for Star Wars Galaxies)... I have no idea if he is working on the RSI project or not.

static.wcnews.com
(source)
 
2012-11-18 03:19:35 AM
Looks like they just hit 4.5mil. I'd say that 5mil is very do-able at this point.
http://www.robertsspaceindustries.com/unlock-stanton-system-stretch-g o als-name-a-system/

I'd like to see a tablet app for this game. Would be useful for maps navigation and finding trading deals.
 
2012-11-18 03:35:01 AM
 
2012-11-18 05:38:22 AM

fluffy2097: I really cannot wait for the wave of kickstarter failures that are due over the next couple years.


Because projects funded with venture capital by traditional means are more worthy than projects funded by kickstarter?
These are penny stocks. risky but alluring, and I doubt that anyone who's so much as read the kickstarter front page is under any illusion that their money could turn into so much vapor if things go wrong.
The main difference being that I'm not prone to whine about fifty bucks I spent two years previous on what seemed like a good idea at the time.
If anything it might even tip off other developers that people still want these kinds of games. We may just as likely be seeing a glut of space combat RPG's by the time RSI hits the shelves.

/Big producers have been known to throw millions at game development, only for projects to disintegrate from any number of problems.
/"When its done" was the farking industry mantra in the before times, back when Halo was going to be released on the Mac and Duke Nukem was already a joke.
/Most of what they release is still crap that's wasted my money. So I readily accept the risk of wasting my money in advance on something that sounds good.
 
2012-11-18 06:08:46 AM
I'm funding this as well as Elite, but why multiplayer?

The old games were great because there was no multiplayer and thusly no griefers
 
2012-11-18 06:51:28 AM
Chris Roberts' Elmer Fudd accent is killing me.
It sounds just like that guy from one episode of Big Bang theory, the one with the robot fight championships. The Kripke guy Sheldon tried to make friends with.
 
2012-11-18 07:26:43 AM

ZeroCorpse: Teufelaffe: ZeroCorpse: Look, nobody pays me ahead of time for a book that I plan to write and release in two years' time.

You have no idea how the publishing business works, do you?


Actually, I do. `Better than I care to expand on in this forum.

But if you're not completely obtuse, you know damn well I was referring to individuals, and not publishing companies. John Q. Public doesn't pay his $25 for a hardcover version of a book that hasn't yet been written. Stephen King doesn't go online and say "I plan to write a novel about gypsies and ghosts. It will be very long and interesting. All I need you to do is give me your $25, and in two years when the book is finished I will send you a copy. Of course, there's no guarantee that I finish it on time, or at all, but in the event that I don't die some time in the next two years, and I keep my focus on this project, and all goes according to plan, you will get your copy before 2015, I'm sure."

He probably could do that, but he doesn't.

/And not all publishing involves advances, either.


I think your writers business model theory needs some tuning. This is just the beginning and only one example too, I have a sneaky feeling your very RIAA-like model of publishing and what not is being eroded to extinction and very quickly.
 
2012-11-18 07:28:13 AM

JohnnyC: What exactly is your problem with other people funding a game development project? Is your problem with games in general, just this game, or crowd funding? Or did you just feel like being contrary today and we were the lucky few who get to witness that?


Going against a thread's general opinion is his entire shtick man.
 
2012-11-18 10:14:30 AM

fluffy2097: Even with a HOTAS you've I've gotta look down at the controls once in a while to press buttons, and since I have to do it, everyone else does too, right?


FTFY

Just because you're incapable of learning where buttons are on a couple of controllers, doesn't mean everyone else is equally incompetent.
 
2012-11-18 11:57:22 AM
Only 24hours left!

and only 325,000 left until it crosses the 5 million mark. I want that tablet app!

/upping my pledge
 
2012-11-18 12:40:28 PM

Carlo Spicy-Wiener: fluffy2097: Even with a HOTAS you've I've gotta look down at the controls once in a while to press buttons, and since I have to do it, everyone else does too, right?

FTFY

Just because you're incapable of learning where buttons are on a couple of controllers, doesn't mean everyone else is equally incompetent.


falcon4.wdfiles.com
Have fun memorizing, or seeing any of that brah.

images04.olx.com.ar
What a sweet MFD. I'm sure lots of useful information could go there for viewing at a gla-- oh.

www.blogcdn.com

you COULD memorize this one, but even with this you'll still need a keyboard for various things. You'll also be jumping from the HOTAS to a mouse for flipping buttons in a virtual cockpit. Hey, where did the mouse go? I can't see it because I'm wearing opaque ski goggles! 

www.benzworld.org
Thank goodness nobody has yet made one of these for F1 racing games...
 
2012-11-18 01:09:24 PM

You'll be surprised what you can remember...

Games like the Mechwarrior series (except the crappy RTS),
that_other_mech_game_for_PS2_that_had_its_own_72-button_controller,
Armored Core, MS Flight Sim, etc. trained me to be able to operate this:

www.jetpix.com 
 

Gimme buttons. BRING IT! Kiyagh!
 
2012-11-18 01:24:40 PM

Chief_ Danz153A: You'll be surprised what you can remember...

Games like the Mechwarrior series (except the crappy RTS),
that_other_mech_game_for_PS2_that_had_its_own_72-button_controller,
Armored Core, MS Flight Sim, etc. trained me to be able to operate this:

[www.jetpix.com image 600x473]  

Gimme buttons. BRING IT! Kiyagh!


Well sure you can memorize what the buttons do and where they are, but would you care to find those buttons without being able to see the hand you're using to reach out and flick them? Sims and even real life don't train for that ;)

Come on. Punch a waypoint into the CDU without looking at it. ;)
 
2012-11-18 01:39:39 PM
Blackout cockpit? I am actually pretty good with the switches and buttons on the overhead and central stations as well as the ones on the flight controls. In the Blackhawk they are pretty well organized and stuff like the anti-ice is even a different style switch which helps. Radios get quite difficult though.

The CDU is the thing that displays engine/TGT/oil info. I'm guessing you are referring to our terrible GPS.

Cuz that terrible GPS is terrible. My god, it is a pain to navigate in that piece of crap with no one on the radio, your buddy on the controls, with fricken step by step pictures. That damn GPS is NOT user friendly. It's a damn technological abortion.

Civ GPS - YAY! This is awesome! It even gives the holding patterns!
Army GPS - WTF!? How do I even get back in that screen. SWEET BABY JEEBS!


/ gets out the EDM.
 
2012-11-18 01:44:40 PM
And the sims at Ft Rucker are actually damn good for blackout cockpit training. One of the best dang features of having those full motion sims. You realize how little you actually know that first time through. (It not a major part of the curriculum, but I had a stellar IP at the time).

I red-screen-of-deathed a bunch of the sims there. My day wasn't over until the software/hardware was frozen, hahaha.
 
2012-11-18 04:23:47 PM
Did a "fund this awesome looking game" thread turn into a sim geek one-upping contest? Get over yourselves.
 
2012-11-18 05:09:33 PM

neuroflare: Did a "fund this awesome looking game" thread turn into a sim geek one-upping contest? Get over yourselves.


LOL, I'm way more hardc0re than yuuuuuuuuuu n00b!


On that note, LESS THAN 24 HOURS TO GO!
Last I saw, it was at 4.85 million, but the site is pretty wonky atm.

Probably getting smashed on like a cheap whore working an over-eaters anonymous convention
 
2012-11-18 06:35:03 PM
Nah, it wasn't about one-upsmanship. It was about how awesome video games actually prepared me for real life.

... and sadly how video games are more user-friendly than the crap in my cockpit.

/ Hehehe. "crap in my cockpit" *snort*
// moooooar buttons!
 
2012-11-18 07:06:32 PM

neuroflare: Did a "fund this awesome looking game" thread turn into a sim geek one-upping contest? Get over yourselves.


Nope. Just hoping for a $4.8m case of nerd butthurt and showing some examples.
 
2012-11-18 07:08:09 PM
Good to know, did not mean to insult if I did

/back to refreshing their site until it loads again
 
2012-11-18 07:29:54 PM
I was just on it a minute ago. It was moving slow (a lot of traffic apparently) but it was working. (with about $25k till 5mil)

I had to check it since they emailed me pics of the Marauder, which led to some dirty kleenex and a tube sock that will never be worn again.
 
2012-11-18 07:35:06 PM
I really don't like how the site is failing down the stretch. Seems like that's going to limit donations, I didn't pay through kickstarter.
 
2012-11-18 08:06:43 PM

Chief_ Danz153A: I was just on it a minute ago. It was moving slow (a lot of traffic apparently) but it was working. (with about $25k till 5mil)

I had to check it since they emailed me pics of the Marauder, which led to some dirty kleenex and a tube sock that will never be worn again.


I hate to think of what's going to happen to your socks after you watch this:

AI Video
 
2012-11-18 08:16:24 PM
They hit 5 mil according to kickstarter Link
 
2012-11-18 08:33:30 PM

Teufelaffe: Chief_ Danz153A: I was just on it a minute ago. It was moving slow (a lot of traffic apparently) but it was working. (with about $25k till 5mil)

I had to check it since they emailed me pics of the Marauder, which led to some dirty kleenex and a tube sock that will never be worn again.

I hate to think of what's going to happen to your socks after you watch this:

AI Video


encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com
 
2012-11-18 08:57:13 PM

Teufelaffe: Chief_ Danz153A: I was just on it a minute ago. It was moving slow (a lot of traffic apparently) but it was working. (with about $25k till 5mil)

I had to check it since they emailed me pics of the Marauder, which led to some dirty kleenex and a tube sock that will never be worn again.

I hate to think of what's going to happen to your socks after you watch this:

AI Video


i1088.photobucket.com

This should be epic on the ol triple screen :D
 
2012-11-18 11:02:18 PM

Teufelaffe: No one thinks you're cool for being enigmatic about what other crowd-funded game projects have exceeded $4.2 million.


You'll get over it.
 
2012-11-18 11:06:48 PM

crab66: Teufelaffe: No one thinks you're cool for being enigmatic about what other crowd-funded game projects have exceeded $4.2 million.

You'll get over it.


si0.twimg.com
 
2012-11-19 02:29:47 AM
ONLY 12 HOURS LEFT! and sitting pretty at 5.35million.

There's now no reason to go through Kickstarter at all, since all the KS goals have been met.
Everything should go through the main site.

Come on 5.5mil, daddy needs a Bengal Carrier.
 
2012-11-19 11:58:33 AM

Chief_ Danz153A: Recipe:
1. Take large portion of EVE and stir in equal portions of RPG and Pew-Pew. Wait for dough to rise (kickstarter).
2. Take my money. Take it. Give me the game. GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME.
3. Gather up all your free time and throw it on your laptop.

/ is itching his arm like a meth head.


Except Eve alreay has huge portions of RP and Pew Pew.

That's what I don't get, how does this differentiate itself from EVE? Is it just going to be Eve for dummies?
 
2012-11-19 12:00:51 PM
nah, this is going to be less like a corporate simulation that happens to have Pew Pew, and more like a Pew Pew game w/ some light trading.

Remember PRIVATEER? Like that.
 
2012-11-19 12:04:09 PM
ZeroCorpse: Stephen King doesn't go online and say "I plan to write a novel about gypsies and ghosts. It will be very long and interesting. All I need you to do is give me your $25, and in two years when the book is finished I will send you a copy. ."

Maybe not Stephen King, but yes, authors are using kickstarter now. If YOU don't want to participate, that's fine, but don't pretend you don't understand that cutting out the publisher lowers costs, and that the tradeoff is you have to put your money up front.
 
2012-11-19 01:44:27 PM
Woo every stretch goal was met!
 
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