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2012-11-17 01:26:03 PM
Uhh...did this story mug and sequester the guy building the Falcon?
 
Juc
2012-11-17 01:27:08 PM
I hope it does well, but successful funding doesn't mean the game will be shipped or good.
 
2012-11-17 01:36:59 PM
i would think this guy would have 2 million of his own money to start the project. or does someone who has been a video game designer, programmer hollywood, film producer and film director make about as much as the creepy girl at taco bell?
 
2012-11-17 01:39:46 PM

starlost: i would think this guy would have 2 million of his own money to start the project. or does someone who has been a video game designer, programmer hollywood, film producer and film director make about as much as the creepy girl at taco bell?


Considering how much more Star Citizen has shown of the game already by comparison to Wasteland 2 or Project Eternity... I'd say they've already spent some of that.
 
2012-11-17 01:40:20 PM
starlost the game has a bunch of secret investors who will be stepping up something like 6-10 million to fund the game also. They just wouldn't be funding the game unless it got at least 2 million in public funding.
 
2012-11-17 01:41:04 PM
Preview is for pussies. Real men bold everything.
 
2012-11-17 01:42:22 PM

starlost: i would think this guy would have 2 million of his own money to start the project. or does someone who has been a video game designer, programmer hollywood, film producer and film director make about as much as the creepy girl at taco bell?


You're assuming these are separate persons.
 
2012-11-17 01:50:38 PM
Privateer with modern graphics?
Here... Take all the monies.
 
2012-11-17 01:53:28 PM
Been playing the Path of Exile closed beta, and what an amazing game. Will be free to play, but its better than diablo 3 already, and the developers said they will never make it a pay to win game, and the cash shop is purely for aesthetics or extra storage slots and such.

The equipment and amount of customization in your builds and the skill gem system are really deep. Here's a really old trailer of it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en8no_jEfAQ
 
2012-11-17 02:05:28 PM
I can has Digital Bounty Hunter.
 
2012-11-17 02:22:03 PM
I'm interested. Really, I am.

However, I'm not going to pay for a product that won't be in my hands until November 2014. I think the goal is noble, and the concept is sound. I just prefer to put my money into the finished product when and if it arrives.

Look, nobody pays me ahead of time for a book that I plan to write and release in two years' time.

Show me the final product, and I'll determine at that time if it's worth my money. I'm just not going to dump funds into something grandiose and well-described, only to have it turn out to be like Molyneaux's FABLE promises. Show me a kick-ass game, and I'll show you my money. Show me a PLAN for a kick-ass game, and I'll show you interest in the project's progress, and moral support, but not my hard-earned cash.

Not unless I'm investing in it, and I get a piece of the profits or a stock share or something like that. Pre-ordering two years ahead of time? NO. Investing and having a stake in the project? YES.
 
2012-11-17 02:30:58 PM
Is Curt Shilling involved in this project?
 
2012-11-17 02:32:32 PM
I'm more interested in Elite Dangerous.
 
2012-11-17 02:42:03 PM
I notice the link has a referral ID.... cunning, subby, very cunning.
 
2012-11-17 02:42:47 PM
Can I pull of multi-trillion-dollar Ponzi schemes in this one?

/back to EvE
 
2012-11-17 02:44:26 PM
to anyone that cares, subby is using you to get himself referral rewards if you use his link to sign up for the game.
 
2012-11-17 02:54:23 PM

Githerax: Can I pull of multi-trillion-dollar Ponzi schemes in this one?

/back to EvE


Where are you based out of in Eve? I'm currently staying in Solitude or Syndicate area around Solitude.
 
2012-11-17 03:02:06 PM

ZeroCorpse: Look, nobody pays me ahead of time for a book that I plan to write and release in two years' time.


You have no idea how the publishing business works, do you?

As for the game, his pre-Alpha looks better than many finished games.
 
2012-11-17 03:02:49 PM
FUND ALL THE CROWDSOURCE STARTUPS!
 
2012-11-17 03:08:59 PM

Teufelaffe: ZeroCorpse: Look, nobody pays me ahead of time for a book that I plan to write and release in two years' time.

You have no idea how the publishing business works, do you?

As for the game, his pre-Alpha looks better than many finished games.


Just watched this. What sort of game is this going to be? MMO, RTS, Sim?
 
2012-11-17 03:20:49 PM

RageAgainstTheMachine: I notice the link has a referral ID.... cunning, subby, very cunning.


mason4300: to anyone that cares, subby is using you to get himself referral rewards if you use his link to sign up for the game.


Yes he is... They could use mine instead if they want.

Hey... at least I'm being forthcoming about it. :)
 
2012-11-17 03:21:00 PM

Chunks McGunks: Teufelaffe: ZeroCorpse: Look, nobody pays me ahead of time for a book that I plan to write and release in two years' time.

You have no idea how the publishing business works, do you?

As for the game, his pre-Alpha looks better than many finished games.

Just watched this. What sort of game is this going to be? MMO, RTS, Sim?


Space Sim, with a MMO-style consistent universe server that all players can access. There is also an optional 40+ mission single-player campaign in which you go through the military.
 
2012-11-17 03:21:52 PM

mason4300: to anyone that cares, subby is using you to get himself referral rewards if you use his link to sign up for the game.


fark off, subbiatch. Modmins need to insta-nuke any link with referral shiat, and I absolutely love Star Citizen.
 
2012-11-17 03:21:57 PM
Looks very interesting. Truly does.

BUT

CryEngine?

17.media.tumblr.com

Putting down $60 on a CryEngine game is basically a bill to pay $200+ for a new PC rig.

I'll play the demo in 2014 to see if i can run it first. And for this kinda game, you really should run it beautifully.
 
2012-11-17 03:25:42 PM
Dammit, I hate to be that guy, but anyone got a spare key for that path of exile thing? EIP!
 
2012-11-17 03:29:30 PM
My OCD looks at that skill tree and says, "Oh, yeah. That's nice. That's real nice.", and then it smokes a cigarette.
 
2012-11-17 03:31:38 PM

ZeroCorpse: I'm interested. Really, I am.

However, I'm not going to pay for a product that won't be in my hands until November 2014. I think the goal is noble, and the concept is sound. I just prefer to put my money into the finished product when and if it arrives.


I understand this. On one hand, yeah, I love the idea of people grouping together to crowd-fund a project... but when the project is something software, there is a lot more to take into consideration. Will this thing be the next DN:F? If we look at where PC graphics and hardware stood 2 years ago, things are a lot different now... to say "hey, here's a game, it'll be out in 2014 or 2015," that is not something I'm really looking to invest in. One of the problems with DN:F was they built half the game over time, said "hey, look here's some better engine or technology, let's rebuild what we've done on this new thing" (repeat several times). Granted, that is due to shoddy leadership, but looking at things realistically, those graphics and gameplay that look now aren't going to look or be so good 2 or 3 years from now. A game released now for $60 will be bargain bin $15 or $20 2-3 years down the road, replaced by something newer and better looking.

So yeah... putting money into this, I dunno if it can be seen as an "investment" if what you get that in the end is likely to be of lesser quality than things that will be released at approx. the same time. I wish him the best, but for the millions upon millions the creators supposedly have, seeing where the project is now, and they are still possibly 2-3 years away from release makes me think this company is biting off more than they can chew. That money would be better spent being put into a savings account and making pennies for interest than the huge risk of disappearing into vaporware.

Believe me, I loves me my space sims... Descent: Freespace 2 stole a lot of hours from my life. Just weighing in my $.02.
 
2012-11-17 03:41:28 PM
Considering the guy in charge of this bailed on Freelancer in mid-production to chase the Hollywood dream of directing Freddie Prinze Jr in an super-shiatty Turkish Star Wars remake with the cast of Cats, and the game he left managed to be near epic despite a lot of cutback ... yeah, I'll just wait till I see it on Steam or whatever.

/hey, I loved Privateer and Wing Commander 1, but I'm cautious on my money
//would've preferred a sequel to Freelancer myself
 
2012-11-17 03:54:47 PM

mason4300: to anyone that cares, subby is using you to get himself referral rewards if you use his link to sign up for the game.


meh. I don't care who gets the referral.

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!
/wish I thought of it
 
2012-11-17 04:10:07 PM
I see these crowd sourced games like Star Citizen, Wasteland 2, Project Eternity, etc. as a gamble, but a pretty cheap gamble. Most have like a $15-30 point of entry that will get you the full game once it is done. And the payoff will probably be measured in days of my life enjoying the end product, if they succeed and put out a game that is even close to what they're promising. This isn't like dropping $60 on Space Marine/Counter Terrorist 2012 with 10-15 hours of gameplay.
 
2012-11-17 04:35:35 PM
I really like the way they're handling the persistent universe and the mod-able private servers.

http://www.robertsspaceindustries.com/chris-roberts-on-multiplayer-s in gle-player-and-instancing/

Oh, and this thing is just sexy. It has multiple stations if you want to do CoOp. Which is AWESOME.

assets2.ignimgs.com
More details on the Constellation

The more I read on this game, the harder I want it.
 
2012-11-17 04:45:23 PM
Something else to keep in mind about a game like this... you get access to the alpha and beta. So yeah, finished game isn't released for a long time, but you'll be playing it long before release.

Generally that allows for more input on the final product as well.
 
2012-11-17 04:46:46 PM
I'm in on this, Wasteland 2 and Project Eternity.

All 3 have pretty good pedigree, and it doesn't hurt that WL1 and the x-wing games are my favorite games of all time.
 
2012-11-17 04:59:43 PM
All of FARK should get down on this, at 5.5 million they make the carrier flyable in the finished version. Good luck earning it...
 
2012-11-17 05:01:30 PM

Lord Bear: I'm in on this, Wasteland 2 and Project Eternity.

All 3 have pretty good pedigree, and it doesn't hurt that WL1 and the x-wing games are my favorite games of all time.


I put so much time into X-wing and Privateer It's a wonder the flightstick didn't merge w/ my hand.
 
2012-11-17 05:10:28 PM
As someone who is playing Freelancer again, I'm very interested in this project. Alas, I'm too poor to donate, and 2014 is a long way off
 
2012-11-17 05:15:40 PM
Sweet! the last 24 hours of the funding, they're going to do telethon style.
 
2012-11-17 06:01:03 PM
I like Kickstarter and have backed a few wargaming projects, but I really don't like the idea of backing software through crowdsourcing. Lengthy delays in coding/bugproofing are not exactly uncommon, as are failures to complete projects due to overruns. Alternatively, as ZeroCorpse suggested, waiting two years means you may no longer care. Anything with a physical component can be sketched out, planned, and costs determined in advance. Coding costs can be estimated, but never defined.

/On the other hand, I hope it succeeds; I loved the Wing Commander games. Just not enough to help fund software.
 
2012-11-17 06:01:26 PM

redmond24: Looks very interesting. Truly does.

BUT

CryEngine?

[17.media.tumblr.com image 400x300]

Putting down $60 on a CryEngine game is basically a bill to pay $200+ for a new PC rig.

I'll play the demo in 2014 to see if i can run it first. And for this kinda game, you really should run it beautifully.


You say this like its a bad thing :P The mechwarrior game build around the first crytek engine is absolutely gorgeous and its nice to see the video cards getting a work-out from a game for once instead of just almost idling because the top-end settings were meant for a console. These guys are very apologetically aiming at the enthusiast PC market and I for one am pleased to hear a company willing to dig in and aim for that.

/Just threw down, hope they hit the 4.5 since that states they'll put big effort into things like the triple screen which is the land I play in.
 
2012-11-17 06:08:48 PM
Man... this is far, far too tempting. $35 for likely multiple days' worth of entertainment, plus Alpha/Beta access?
 
2012-11-17 06:39:01 PM
Looks cool I may buy when it comes out. Most tfers will pirate it and complain about freedy corporations or somethingg
 
2012-11-17 06:48:13 PM

LazarusLong42: Man... this is far, far too tempting. $35 for likely multiple days' worth of entertainment, plus Alpha/Beta access?


Yeh, I'm sorely tempted. It would be my first foray into kickstarting but golly if it doesn't seem more than worth it. Also the Elite link listed above. Looks like good times are coming back for space sims. Also the games should use real maps of the galaxy with full accurate info on planets and other worlds. So someone better get busy mapping.
 
2012-11-17 07:02:17 PM
Currently at 4.2million it's the most successful game crowd-funding venture in history.



Not really.
 
2012-11-17 07:03:13 PM
They just added a couple of skins and a ship for people who want to start the game as a pirate.

www.robertsspaceindustries.com
www.robertsspaceindustries.com
 
2012-11-17 07:05:42 PM
Damnit! What part of "I'm On A Farking Budget" do these people not understand?!?
 
2012-11-17 07:28:08 PM

crab66: Currently at 4.2million it's the most successful game crowd-funding venture in history.

Not really.


Top-funded Kickstarters

Since the console does not count as a game, I think their statement is correct.
 
2012-11-17 07:38:22 PM

drake113: Damnit! What part of "I'm On A Farking Budget" do these people not understand?!?


Only $35 at the lowest tier. And you get access to the alpha & beta - so it isn't like you can't play for two years.

I'm stoked that they are allowing boarding and EVA actions including combat. I guess I wasn't the only one paying attention while watching Firefly.
 
2012-11-17 08:00:58 PM

madgonad: I'm stoked that they are allowing boarding and EVA actions including combat. I guess I wasn't the only one paying attention while watching Firefly.


Well... if it hits 4 million it they are. Magnetic boots FTW. :)
 
2012-11-17 08:11:50 PM

JohnnyC: madgonad: I'm stoked that they are allowing boarding and EVA actions including combat. I guess I wasn't the only one paying attention while watching Firefly.

Well... if it hits 4 million it they are. Magnetic boots FTW. :)


They're just shy of 4.5 mil. They could conceivably reach carrier level by the time they're out. I am more and more intrigued about this the more I think about it.

/this might be the first crowdfunded project I invest in
 
2012-11-17 08:34:10 PM
Recipe:
1. Take large portion of EVE and stir in equal portions of RPG and Pew-Pew. Wait for dough to rise (kickstarter).
2. Take my money. Take it. Give me the game. GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME.
3. Gather up all your free time and throw it on your laptop.

/ is itching his arm like a meth head.
 
2012-11-17 08:37:05 PM
Hopefully they do what the X3 could not, build a compelling story and adapt the interface to suite the need. Running a thriving trade empire out of the cockpit of your current ship is no way to go through life son.

/otherwise that is the crack you desire to hold you over, my god is that game ever pretty
 
2012-11-17 09:10:37 PM

neuroflare: JohnnyC: madgonad: I'm stoked that they are allowing boarding and EVA actions including combat. I guess I wasn't the only one paying attention while watching Firefly.

Well... if it hits 4 million it they are. Magnetic boots FTW. :)

They're just shy of 4.5 mil. They could conceivably reach carrier level by the time they're out. I am more and more intrigued about this the more I think about it.

/this might be the first crowdfunded project I invest in


Oh! Cool! It's gone up since the last time I refreshed. One of the things I'm looking forward to is designing ships and submitting them so I can sell them in-game. Still at $4,415,322. I'm not certain I would personally want a carrier. I imagine that is one of those things that a group of people work towards. I'm just looking for a sturdy hull, nice engines, and enough firepower to punch a hole through anyone's cockpit that wrongly assumes I'm easy pickings. :)

I'm in at the $35 level. Wing Commander was a very influential game for me. I'm very excited to get in the cockpit (or bridge) of my very own ship and light it up out there. :D
 
2012-11-17 09:18:50 PM

LazarusLong42: Kickstarters


Kickstarter is not the only form of crowd funding.
 
2012-11-17 09:23:11 PM

JohnnyC: I'm in at the $35 level. Wing Commander was a very influential game for me. I'm very excited to get in the cockpit (or bridge) of my very own ship and light it up out there. :D


I bit on the $35 a minute ago, alpha access convinced me. I farking loved wing commander (and descent) no matter how sick they made me.
 
2012-11-17 09:29:13 PM
I see no way I could get a carrier BTW, I just love the idea that if I so chose, I could possibly be Henry Gloval at the helm of my own SDF-1.
 
2012-11-17 09:29:49 PM

neuroflare: I see no way I could get a carrier BTW, I just love the idea that if I so chose, I could possibly be Henry Gloval at the helm of my own SDF-1.


That doesn't transform.
 
2012-11-17 09:38:49 PM

Chief_ Danz153A: Recipe:
1. Take large portion of EVE and stir in equal portions of RPG and Pew-Pew. Wait for dough to rise (kickstarter).
2. Take my money. Take it. Give me the game. GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME.
3. Gather up all your free time and throw it on your laptop.

/ is itching his arm like a meth head.


You better have a helluva laptop, sir.
 
2012-11-17 09:46:48 PM
In two years time... I will *indeed* have a helluva laptop.

I need to game on the fly damnit. Damn Army moves me too much to carry a tower. I just wish laptops were easier to modify. The soldering iron doesn't quite cut it on these things nowadays. Hmm... I guess I need to upgrade m'tools too.

Kickstarter: Buy Chief_Danz an Uber laptop! Haha.
At the $30 level, I'll be your tailgunner for a week!

Oh kickstarter. So silly.
 
2012-11-17 10:10:06 PM

neuroflare: JohnnyC: I'm in at the $35 level. Wing Commander was a very influential game for me. I'm very excited to get in the cockpit (or bridge) of my very own ship and light it up out there. :D

I bit on the $35 a minute ago, alpha access convinced me. I farking loved wing commander (and descent) no matter how sick they made me.


Your Recruit Count Total: 0

Haha! Did you give subby a recruiting point? Welcome aboard! Perhaps we'll see each other out there someday!
 
2012-11-17 10:50:10 PM

JohnnyC: Did you give subby a recruiting point?


I wandered around the site, bookmarked the main page, and waffled for a few hours before buying, so in short, no.
 
2012-11-17 11:26:03 PM
I'm in also. And no one got recruit credit. Looking forward to the betas.
 
2012-11-17 11:58:11 PM

Teufelaffe: ZeroCorpse: Look, nobody pays me ahead of time for a book that I plan to write and release in two years' time.

You have no idea how the publishing business works, do you?


Actually, I do. `Better than I care to expand on in this forum.

But if you're not completely obtuse, you know damn well I was referring to individuals, and not publishing companies. John Q. Public doesn't pay his $25 for a hardcover version of a book that hasn't yet been written. Stephen King doesn't go online and say "I plan to write a novel about gypsies and ghosts. It will be very long and interesting. All I need you to do is give me your $25, and in two years when the book is finished I will send you a copy. Of course, there's no guarantee that I finish it on time, or at all, but in the event that I don't die some time in the next two years, and I keep my focus on this project, and all goes according to plan, you will get your copy before 2015, I'm sure."

He probably could do that, but he doesn't.

/And not all publishing involves advances, either.
 
2012-11-18 12:27:27 AM

crab66: LazarusLong42: Kickstarters

Kickstarter is not the only form of crowd funding.


No one thinks you're cool for being enigmatic about what other crowd-funded game projects have exceeded $4.2 million.
 
2012-11-18 01:14:36 AM

neuroflare: JohnnyC: Did you give subby a recruiting point?

I wandered around the site, bookmarked the main page, and waffled for a few hours before buying, so in short, no.


Right on. I tried to get a couple of my friends to get in on it with me, but none of them joined up. I usually end up making lots of new friends in games like these... well... online games with a social element to it.

I play Mechwarrior Online (in Open Beta right now) as well. It's pretty cool, plenty of bugs and they're still fleshing the whole thing out, but it is definitely "mechwarrior-ish". It's free to play if you want to give it a go.

ZeroCorpse: John Q. Public doesn't pay his $25 for a hardcover version of a book that hasn't yet been written...


Well... I'm not entirely sure, but I think the final game will cost $60. So assuming the game is released (which I'm confident it will be) I'll have essentially saved $25 with my investment. And gotten more for my money since I get a bonus ship, in game credits, and early access. Also, I haven't heard of people crowd-funding a book. I'm sure people have probably tried though.

What exactly is your problem with other people funding a game development project? Is your problem with games in general, just this game, or crowd funding? Or did you just feel like being contrary today and we were the lucky few who get to witness that?
 
2012-11-18 01:20:50 AM

JohnnyC: I play Mechwarrior Online (in Open Beta right now) as well. It's pretty cool, plenty of bugs and they're still fleshing the whole thing out, but it is definitely "mechwarrior-ish". It's free to play if you want to give it a go.


I've been playing that as well, got a standard config commando last week but haven't played much since. It seems we played similar games many, many years ago.

/played tabletop battletech
 
2012-11-18 02:21:32 AM
I really cannot wait for the wave of kickstarter failures that are due over the next couple years.

People are gonna be PISSSED when they find out that their Occulus Rift ski goggles are actually useless for just about all modern 3d gaming, and that the resolution is going to be utter crap.

If you know, they ever get released at all.

Did anyone who donated for that piece of junk take a moment to realize that mouse look controls where you go in a FPS game, and that by binding mouselook to head movement, you become incapable of turning, since you always have to bring your head back center, meaning you start going whatever direction your avatar was going at the start of the level? The only person who could use them is Linda Blair.

Flight and racing simulators are a bit better, since you really just want to control head movement in those games, but you're wearing goggles that completely obscure your view of your controllers. Even with a HOTAS you've gotta look down at the controls once in a while to press buttons.

Finally, they'll never be able to squeeze a high enough resolution into a display that size.

/soooo much pointless vaporware on kickstarter
//I donated 5 bucks to the space elevator project. In 3 years they said they'd take me for a ride on the finished product.
 
2012-11-18 03:01:04 AM

neuroflare: JohnnyC: I play Mechwarrior Online (in Open Beta right now) as well. It's pretty cool, plenty of bugs and they're still fleshing the whole thing out, but it is definitely "mechwarrior-ish". It's free to play if you want to give it a go.

I've been playing that as well, got a standard config commando last week but haven't played much since. It seems we played similar games many, many years ago.

/played tabletop battletech


I used to play tabletop as well. I have a Catapult A1, but they nerfed the hell out of my configuration with the last patch, so I'm saving up to buy a Jenner D (maybe an F). I'm a few hundred thousand short right now... I'll get it soon enough.

When I was 12 or 13 I showed up a tabletop RPG club at the local university (Western Michigan University). I was the youngest one there for the first couple years, but they were really cool people. Luckily, as long as I let my Mom know where I was going, I didn't have a curfew. I played games with those folks almost every Friday night for years. Good fun for a younger me. :)

I'm excited to get into this game. I love space flight/combat sim/games. Need a new joystick though.
 
2012-11-18 03:04:07 AM
Oh... and I found this picture of J. Allen Brack (guy who worked on Wing Commander 3 and the Jump to Lightspeed expansion for Star Wars Galaxies)... I have no idea if he is working on the RSI project or not.

static.wcnews.com
(source)
 
2012-11-18 03:19:35 AM
Looks like they just hit 4.5mil. I'd say that 5mil is very do-able at this point.
http://www.robertsspaceindustries.com/unlock-stanton-system-stretch-g o als-name-a-system/

I'd like to see a tablet app for this game. Would be useful for maps navigation and finding trading deals.
 
2012-11-18 03:35:01 AM
 
2012-11-18 05:38:22 AM

fluffy2097: I really cannot wait for the wave of kickstarter failures that are due over the next couple years.


Because projects funded with venture capital by traditional means are more worthy than projects funded by kickstarter?
These are penny stocks. risky but alluring, and I doubt that anyone who's so much as read the kickstarter front page is under any illusion that their money could turn into so much vapor if things go wrong.
The main difference being that I'm not prone to whine about fifty bucks I spent two years previous on what seemed like a good idea at the time.
If anything it might even tip off other developers that people still want these kinds of games. We may just as likely be seeing a glut of space combat RPG's by the time RSI hits the shelves.

/Big producers have been known to throw millions at game development, only for projects to disintegrate from any number of problems.
/"When its done" was the farking industry mantra in the before times, back when Halo was going to be released on the Mac and Duke Nukem was already a joke.
/Most of what they release is still crap that's wasted my money. So I readily accept the risk of wasting my money in advance on something that sounds good.
 
2012-11-18 06:08:46 AM
I'm funding this as well as Elite, but why multiplayer?

The old games were great because there was no multiplayer and thusly no griefers
 
2012-11-18 06:51:28 AM
Chris Roberts' Elmer Fudd accent is killing me.
It sounds just like that guy from one episode of Big Bang theory, the one with the robot fight championships. The Kripke guy Sheldon tried to make friends with.
 
2012-11-18 07:26:43 AM

ZeroCorpse: Teufelaffe: ZeroCorpse: Look, nobody pays me ahead of time for a book that I plan to write and release in two years' time.

You have no idea how the publishing business works, do you?


Actually, I do. `Better than I care to expand on in this forum.

But if you're not completely obtuse, you know damn well I was referring to individuals, and not publishing companies. John Q. Public doesn't pay his $25 for a hardcover version of a book that hasn't yet been written. Stephen King doesn't go online and say "I plan to write a novel about gypsies and ghosts. It will be very long and interesting. All I need you to do is give me your $25, and in two years when the book is finished I will send you a copy. Of course, there's no guarantee that I finish it on time, or at all, but in the event that I don't die some time in the next two years, and I keep my focus on this project, and all goes according to plan, you will get your copy before 2015, I'm sure."

He probably could do that, but he doesn't.

/And not all publishing involves advances, either.


I think your writers business model theory needs some tuning. This is just the beginning and only one example too, I have a sneaky feeling your very RIAA-like model of publishing and what not is being eroded to extinction and very quickly.
 
2012-11-18 07:28:13 AM

JohnnyC: What exactly is your problem with other people funding a game development project? Is your problem with games in general, just this game, or crowd funding? Or did you just feel like being contrary today and we were the lucky few who get to witness that?


Going against a thread's general opinion is his entire shtick man.
 
2012-11-18 10:14:30 AM

fluffy2097: Even with a HOTAS you've I've gotta look down at the controls once in a while to press buttons, and since I have to do it, everyone else does too, right?


FTFY

Just because you're incapable of learning where buttons are on a couple of controllers, doesn't mean everyone else is equally incompetent.
 
2012-11-18 11:57:22 AM
Only 24hours left!

and only 325,000 left until it crosses the 5 million mark. I want that tablet app!

/upping my pledge
 
2012-11-18 12:40:28 PM

Carlo Spicy-Wiener: fluffy2097: Even with a HOTAS you've I've gotta look down at the controls once in a while to press buttons, and since I have to do it, everyone else does too, right?

FTFY

Just because you're incapable of learning where buttons are on a couple of controllers, doesn't mean everyone else is equally incompetent.


falcon4.wdfiles.com
Have fun memorizing, or seeing any of that brah.

images04.olx.com.ar
What a sweet MFD. I'm sure lots of useful information could go there for viewing at a gla-- oh.

www.blogcdn.com

you COULD memorize this one, but even with this you'll still need a keyboard for various things. You'll also be jumping from the HOTAS to a mouse for flipping buttons in a virtual cockpit. Hey, where did the mouse go? I can't see it because I'm wearing opaque ski goggles! 

www.benzworld.org
Thank goodness nobody has yet made one of these for F1 racing games...
 
2012-11-18 01:09:24 PM

You'll be surprised what you can remember...

Games like the Mechwarrior series (except the crappy RTS),
that_other_mech_game_for_PS2_that_had_its_own_72-button_controller,
Armored Core, MS Flight Sim, etc. trained me to be able to operate this:

www.jetpix.com 
 

Gimme buttons. BRING IT! Kiyagh!
 
2012-11-18 01:24:40 PM

Chief_ Danz153A: You'll be surprised what you can remember...

Games like the Mechwarrior series (except the crappy RTS),
that_other_mech_game_for_PS2_that_had_its_own_72-button_controller,
Armored Core, MS Flight Sim, etc. trained me to be able to operate this:

[www.jetpix.com image 600x473]  

Gimme buttons. BRING IT! Kiyagh!


Well sure you can memorize what the buttons do and where they are, but would you care to find those buttons without being able to see the hand you're using to reach out and flick them? Sims and even real life don't train for that ;)

Come on. Punch a waypoint into the CDU without looking at it. ;)
 
2012-11-18 01:39:39 PM
Blackout cockpit? I am actually pretty good with the switches and buttons on the overhead and central stations as well as the ones on the flight controls. In the Blackhawk they are pretty well organized and stuff like the anti-ice is even a different style switch which helps. Radios get quite difficult though.

The CDU is the thing that displays engine/TGT/oil info. I'm guessing you are referring to our terrible GPS.

Cuz that terrible GPS is terrible. My god, it is a pain to navigate in that piece of crap with no one on the radio, your buddy on the controls, with fricken step by step pictures. That damn GPS is NOT user friendly. It's a damn technological abortion.

Civ GPS - YAY! This is awesome! It even gives the holding patterns!
Army GPS - WTF!? How do I even get back in that screen. SWEET BABY JEEBS!


/ gets out the EDM.
 
2012-11-18 01:44:40 PM
And the sims at Ft Rucker are actually damn good for blackout cockpit training. One of the best dang features of having those full motion sims. You realize how little you actually know that first time through. (It not a major part of the curriculum, but I had a stellar IP at the time).

I red-screen-of-deathed a bunch of the sims there. My day wasn't over until the software/hardware was frozen, hahaha.
 
2012-11-18 04:23:47 PM
Did a "fund this awesome looking game" thread turn into a sim geek one-upping contest? Get over yourselves.
 
2012-11-18 05:09:33 PM

neuroflare: Did a "fund this awesome looking game" thread turn into a sim geek one-upping contest? Get over yourselves.


LOL, I'm way more hardc0re than yuuuuuuuuuu n00b!


On that note, LESS THAN 24 HOURS TO GO!
Last I saw, it was at 4.85 million, but the site is pretty wonky atm.

Probably getting smashed on like a cheap whore working an over-eaters anonymous convention
 
2012-11-18 06:35:03 PM
Nah, it wasn't about one-upsmanship. It was about how awesome video games actually prepared me for real life.

... and sadly how video games are more user-friendly than the crap in my cockpit.

/ Hehehe. "crap in my cockpit" *snort*
// moooooar buttons!
 
2012-11-18 07:06:32 PM

neuroflare: Did a "fund this awesome looking game" thread turn into a sim geek one-upping contest? Get over yourselves.


Nope. Just hoping for a $4.8m case of nerd butthurt and showing some examples.
 
2012-11-18 07:08:09 PM
Good to know, did not mean to insult if I did

/back to refreshing their site until it loads again
 
2012-11-18 07:29:54 PM
I was just on it a minute ago. It was moving slow (a lot of traffic apparently) but it was working. (with about $25k till 5mil)

I had to check it since they emailed me pics of the Marauder, which led to some dirty kleenex and a tube sock that will never be worn again.
 
2012-11-18 07:35:06 PM
I really don't like how the site is failing down the stretch. Seems like that's going to limit donations, I didn't pay through kickstarter.
 
2012-11-18 08:06:43 PM

Chief_ Danz153A: I was just on it a minute ago. It was moving slow (a lot of traffic apparently) but it was working. (with about $25k till 5mil)

I had to check it since they emailed me pics of the Marauder, which led to some dirty kleenex and a tube sock that will never be worn again.


I hate to think of what's going to happen to your socks after you watch this:

AI Video
 
2012-11-18 08:16:24 PM
They hit 5 mil according to kickstarter Link
 
2012-11-18 08:33:30 PM

Teufelaffe: Chief_ Danz153A: I was just on it a minute ago. It was moving slow (a lot of traffic apparently) but it was working. (with about $25k till 5mil)

I had to check it since they emailed me pics of the Marauder, which led to some dirty kleenex and a tube sock that will never be worn again.

I hate to think of what's going to happen to your socks after you watch this:

AI Video


encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com
 
2012-11-18 08:57:13 PM

Teufelaffe: Chief_ Danz153A: I was just on it a minute ago. It was moving slow (a lot of traffic apparently) but it was working. (with about $25k till 5mil)

I had to check it since they emailed me pics of the Marauder, which led to some dirty kleenex and a tube sock that will never be worn again.

I hate to think of what's going to happen to your socks after you watch this:

AI Video


i1088.photobucket.com

This should be epic on the ol triple screen :D
 
2012-11-18 11:02:18 PM

Teufelaffe: No one thinks you're cool for being enigmatic about what other crowd-funded game projects have exceeded $4.2 million.


You'll get over it.
 
2012-11-18 11:06:48 PM

crab66: Teufelaffe: No one thinks you're cool for being enigmatic about what other crowd-funded game projects have exceeded $4.2 million.

You'll get over it.


si0.twimg.com
 
2012-11-19 02:29:47 AM
ONLY 12 HOURS LEFT! and sitting pretty at 5.35million.

There's now no reason to go through Kickstarter at all, since all the KS goals have been met.
Everything should go through the main site.

Come on 5.5mil, daddy needs a Bengal Carrier.
 
2012-11-19 11:58:33 AM

Chief_ Danz153A: Recipe:
1. Take large portion of EVE and stir in equal portions of RPG and Pew-Pew. Wait for dough to rise (kickstarter).
2. Take my money. Take it. Give me the game. GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME.
3. Gather up all your free time and throw it on your laptop.

/ is itching his arm like a meth head.


Except Eve alreay has huge portions of RP and Pew Pew.

That's what I don't get, how does this differentiate itself from EVE? Is it just going to be Eve for dummies?
 
2012-11-19 12:00:51 PM
nah, this is going to be less like a corporate simulation that happens to have Pew Pew, and more like a Pew Pew game w/ some light trading.

Remember PRIVATEER? Like that.
 
2012-11-19 12:04:09 PM
ZeroCorpse: Stephen King doesn't go online and say "I plan to write a novel about gypsies and ghosts. It will be very long and interesting. All I need you to do is give me your $25, and in two years when the book is finished I will send you a copy. ."

Maybe not Stephen King, but yes, authors are using kickstarter now. If YOU don't want to participate, that's fine, but don't pretend you don't understand that cutting out the publisher lowers costs, and that the tradeoff is you have to put your money up front.
 
2012-11-19 01:44:27 PM
Woo every stretch goal was met!
 
2012-11-19 02:33:37 PM

amoral: Chief_ Danz153A: Recipe:
1. Take large portion of EVE and stir in equal portions of RPG and Pew-Pew. Wait for dough to rise (kickstarter).
2. Take my money. Take it. Give me the game. GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME.
3. Gather up all your free time and throw it on your laptop.

/ is itching his arm like a meth head.

Except Eve alreay has huge portions of RP and Pew Pew.

That's what I don't get, how does this differentiate itself from EVE? Is it just going to be Eve for dummies?


Yes, because a space-themed spreadsheet with a healthy dose of social rejects (a.k.a. EVE) is for "smart" people.
 
2012-11-19 05:06:01 PM
Now begins the long and anxious wait to see if they can turn cash into dream game.

/Have some music to privateer by in the mean time.
 
2012-11-19 06:04:29 PM
At least I have plenty of time to pick out a decent and inexpensive flight stick+throttle combo
 
2012-11-20 05:45:33 AM

neuroflare: At least I have plenty of time to pick out a decent and inexpensive flight stick+throttle combo


I'm looking at that logitech setup they have for the referrals. looks pretty nice.

/ended up w/ 81 referrals. hope I can get something out of that drawing.
 
2012-11-20 12:17:42 PM

amoral:
That's what I don't get, how does this differentiate itself from EVE? Is it just going to be Eve for dummies?


No, it'll just be more fun to play. I'm not a dummy, and I can and have played EVE - the problem is, it is mind-numbingly dull. They might have improved the game over the past couple years since I last played, but there are other, more appealing games on the way that I decided to wait for. Namely, Infinity, Star Citizen, and Elite:Dangerous. At least ONE of these three should end up being amazing, and all of them look more appealing than EVE ever did. It's just a matter of taste. Not everyone likes the extremely over-the-top technical crap in EVE, the point-and-click maneuvering, etc.
 
2012-11-20 01:49:00 PM

Vertdang: neuroflare: At least I have plenty of time to pick out a decent and inexpensive flight stick+throttle combo

I'm looking at that logitech setup they have for the referrals. looks pretty nice.

/ended up w/ 81 referrals. hope I can get something out of that drawing.


Lots of complaints about it on newegg, but looks like it has the ability to bolt it to the desk, that's not something I've seen on any hotas before. I don't have any referrals though.
 
2012-11-20 02:15:03 PM

neuroflare: Vertdang: neuroflare: At least I have plenty of time to pick out a decent and inexpensive flight stick+throttle combo

I'm looking at that logitech setup they have for the referrals. looks pretty nice.

/ended up w/ 81 referrals. hope I can get something out of that drawing.

Lots of complaints about it on newegg, but looks like it has the ability to bolt it to the desk, that's not something I've seen on any hotas before. I don't have any referrals though.


Looking at some of the flight sticks available these days, one thing comes to mind: God I miss my SideWinder Precision Pro.
 
2012-11-20 02:21:12 PM

Teufelaffe: neuroflare: Vertdang: neuroflare: At least I have plenty of time to pick out a decent and inexpensive flight stick+throttle combo

I'm looking at that logitech setup they have for the referrals. looks pretty nice.

/ended up w/ 81 referrals. hope I can get something out of that drawing.

Lots of complaints about it on newegg, but looks like it has the ability to bolt it to the desk, that's not something I've seen on any hotas before. I don't have any referrals though.

Looking at some of the flight sticks available these days, one thing comes to mind: God I miss my SideWinder Precision Pro.


If only I could afford one of those sweet saitek or thrustmaster setups...
 
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