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(Mother Jones)   If you Farkers think you're comfortable with your craft brew, think again   ( motherjones.com) divider line
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2012-11-17 11:56:14 PM  

Absurdity: I can get a case of Stone's IPA there for $25,


Like!!
 
2012-11-17 11:57:46 PM  

baorao: DoctorCal: Enemabag Jones: in many states there are two beer distributors

Really? Which states?

If what I learned from Beer Wars is accurate, when prohibition ended they made all sorts of goofy laws to control the sale of alcohol. So the states were each divided into "zones" and each zone was allowed a specific number (around 3) distributors. And so the common pattern in each zone is one for Annheuser-Busch, one for SABMiller and one for Coors and whatever microbrewers that can afford to pay for the leftover space on their distribution truck.

It wouldn't surprise me to find out that a distribution congolmerate was in control of a piece of multiple zones in a state.



Who do you think those "distributors" were? Who was already in business? They gave the mob a middleman's spot and there they still sit, taking a cut for nothing.
 
2012-11-18 12:29:40 AM  
I find shock top to be a pretty darn good hefeweizen. I didn't know that they are a craft knock-off though...
 
2012-11-18 12:37:57 AM  

GORDON: symbolset: So brew your own. Malted barley, yeast, water. No biggie.

Started that hobby when I turned 40. Best hobby ever.

Holiday Porter fermenting in the basement as I type.


You failed to notice that I forgot the hops. Don't forget the hops.
 
2012-11-18 01:03:08 AM  

Ow My Balls: Absurdity: I can get a case of Stone's IPA there for $25,

Like!!


It is nice, but I do want to emphasize that is at the Dan Diego area Costcos. (Near the Stone brewery) I haven't been to Costcos in other towns, but I would think that would have a good (if limited) selection of local brews for a good price.
 
2012-11-18 01:14:30 AM  

Absurdity: Costcos... good (if limited) selection of local brews for a good price.


This is true.

Also, beer plug:

  www.funkstrong.com
 
2012-11-18 01:18:32 AM  

letrole: Anyone who drinks craft beer also tends to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years
2. Ride a bike to work wearing spandex stretch trousers
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Feign disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac


1. Haven't had cable since 2002, though I do use a 40in 1080p LCD as a computer monitor
2. Wear jeans, change over when I get to work(yes, I ride to work)
3. Not an anime fan,and I haven't liked a Apple product since the 80's
4. couldn't care less
5. go there once a year,maybe
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts athletic build and hourglass figure, breasts tend to be small but perky in that event
7. shop at WalMart
8. have he urge to light up every time I see a "no smoking" sign, thinking of taking up a pipe
9. of all the insecurities I've ever had in my life, that's not one of them
10. real disgust at the idea of eating a McDonalds at all. Have youu seen the youtube video of the happymeal that sat unmolded on the coffee table for six months?
 
2012-11-18 01:21:19 AM  
Oh yeah, get rid of the three tier system. It harms craft beer as it was supposed to help.
 
2012-11-18 03:31:01 AM  

spidermilk: St_Francis_P: bonkmeist: St_Francis_P: It's definitely beer. As I understand it though, it's difficult to brew at home. If you're looking for something to brew at home, perhaps melomel would work for you:

Melomel FAQ

Lambics aren't particularly difficult to make. They do require some aging, and the main difficulty is keeping all the equipment segregated from your main brewing equipment. You use special strains of bacteria and yeast as opposed to good old Saccharomyces Ceriviseae (brewer's yeast.) If one is interested purely in lambics, it really wouldn't be too hard to get into creating them yourself. The pain in the ass is keeping it separate from your other equipment, and making sure none of your normal beers are contaminated.

Yeah, I knew that specific bacteria are required. I guess they're available over the internet these days.

Yeast is not a bacteria. Just saying. My town (of 90,000) has two small breweries. Both are also restaurants. As long as there are people who like food and beer there are people who will make beer and sell it. So I'm not worried...


Why are you pointing out the obvious? No, yeast is not bacteria. Yes, lambics are made with yeast AND bacteria.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambic
 
2012-11-18 03:40:32 AM  

BLEMDAR: sammyk: dickfreckle: Not sure if it still counts as a "craft" beer, but this is what we drink in New Orleans:

And because it's sweet, this is a good breakfast beer. Goes down easy:

Love them both. Only place I can get them in Charlotte is at a few of our cajun restaurants and world of beer

best beer by Abita is definitely Turbo Dog. Hands down great brown.


It's approaching wintertime, by Southern standards at least, and that's when I start hitting the darker beers. TurboDog is pretty goddamn awesome, but it's not a real stout. However, I like telling local or statewide companies to shut up and take my money, so that's probably how I'll be drunk at Christmas.
 
2012-11-18 03:57:22 AM  

St_Francis_P: letrole: Anyone who drinks craft beer also tends to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years
2. Ride a bike to work wearing spandex stretch trousers
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Feign disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac

1. Not true. Turn it on to update the Blu-Ray player, which is only ever used to play CD or SACDs.
2. Uh...no.
3. No. Just no.
4. Vinyl is fine for other people. I suffered with the noise, distortion, limited bandwidth and dynamic range for years, now it's someone else's turn.
5. No.
6. Not just no, hell no.
7. Sure.
8. No. They can poison themselves all they like without my help.
9. Never worried about it.
10. Yeah. Yet, once a year, need it or not, I eat one. 

/We have to stop meeting this way.


I typically only snip quotes so as not to bother mobile or laptop readers having to constantly scroll, but this exchange was hilarious and I'm leaving it all here.

We were most likely separated at birth.
 
2012-11-18 06:15:01 AM  
Craft beers have their fans, including myself, but the market prefers easy-drinking, uncomplicated beers that go well with sports and junk food.

There's nothing necessarily wrong with that in a free market. The Camry, for example, is popular but as an auto enthusiast I wouldn't be caught dead in one.
 
2012-11-18 07:34:46 AM  

spidermilk: St_Francis_P: bonkmeist: St_Francis_P: It's definitely beer. As I understand it though, it's difficult to brew at home. If you're looking for something to brew at home, perhaps melomel would work for you:

Melomel FAQ

Lambics aren't particularly difficult to make. They do require some aging, and the main difficulty is keeping all the equipment segregated from your main brewing equipment. You use special strains of bacteria and yeast as opposed to good old Saccharomyces Ceriviseae (brewer's yeast.) If one is interested purely in lambics, it really wouldn't be too hard to get into creating them yourself. The pain in the ass is keeping it separate from your other equipment, and making sure none of your normal beers are contaminated.

Yeah, I knew that specific bacteria are required. I guess they're available over the internet these days.

Yeast is not a bacteria. Just saying. My town (of 90,000) has two small breweries. Both are also restaurants. As long as there are people who like food and beer there are people who will make beer and sell it. So I'm not worried...


Lambic is a Belgian style that is brewed by exposing the wort to the night air, which allows certain bacteria to seed the beer, as well as wild yeast.

Lambic
 
2012-11-18 02:19:49 PM  

letrole: Anyone who drinks craft beer also tends to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years
2. Ride a bike to work wearing spandex stretch trousers
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Feign disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac


I'll bite,

1. own 5, 3 used as PC monitors everyday, other 2 are on at least once a day
2. don't even own a bike
3.never could stand Japanese cartoons or own anything Apple except the iPhone
4. own 0 records, 0 record players
5. haven't been in a Starbucks in over 5 years, never read a book at one
6. got me.
7. got me again
8. I smoke
9. size always matters... unless you're referring to my junk
10. disgusted at the idea of ANY fast food joints... Big Macs are damn good though, but again... I stopped fast food years ago

 
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