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(DNA Info)   NYPD cops caught on cam by "igotya" app trying to access iPhone. That is illegal officers, but we'll give you some time to fabricate a tale. Hmm, maybe you were just trying to turn it off?...yeah, let's go with that   (dnainfo.com) divider line 33
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2012-11-17 10:10:52 AM
7 votes:
So this is an interesting unintended consequence of the "big brother" style cameras being installed everywhere. Average citizens have been concerned that the police/government was tracking their every movement...now with small pieces of technology and using the government's own tools against them, the average citizen is able to hold the police/government accountable for their illegal actions in a way that no one ever intended or foresaw.
2012-11-17 11:56:52 AM
5 votes:

TheHappyCanadian: ftfa: At first, Lewis did not notice any damage or anything amiss about his car. But when he went to a gas station to have it washed, he spotted scratches on the side and a cracked rear window.

TEMPERED GLASS DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY


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www.cardetailingeugene.com

Oh look! It CAN work that way!

/Today you learned that glass is an unpredictable material with multiple failure modes.
2012-11-17 07:24:23 AM
4 votes:
There is so much Douchenozzelishness in this story I am just going to hate both parties.
2012-11-17 06:43:20 AM
3 votes:
First they shoot 9 people while aiming at one guy, and then this? NYPD's running streak of fail continues.
2012-11-17 02:45:08 PM
2 votes:
Today I have learned to hold my finger over the front camera when illegally accessing someone's cell phone.

Thanks Fark!
2012-11-17 01:11:02 PM
2 votes:
This just in - Cops seldom obey the law.
2012-11-17 12:51:07 PM
2 votes:

AJisaff:
Oh look! a tard that doesn't know that rear windows are tempered glass, and front windows are coated with plastic, SO THEY DON"T CRAZE like tempered glass...


oh do tell us how they "coat" the front windows with plastic!
I can't wait to hear this. 

AJisaff: "...and yeah. i know what the fark i am talking about."

I'm quite certain that you believe that.
2012-11-17 12:49:35 PM
2 votes:
In New York City's war on crime, the worst criminal offenders roll around the city with lights on top of their cars.

duh duh duhnn
2012-11-17 12:25:40 PM
2 votes:

TheHappyCanadian: ftfa: At first, Lewis did not notice any damage or anything amiss about his car. But when he went to a gas station to have it washed, he spotted scratches on the side and a cracked rear window.

TEMPERED GLASS DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY


True, however MB cars have laminated safety glass for rear windows.
This makes them quieter than if they had tempered glass.

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2012-11-17 12:25:05 PM
2 votes:

mikaloyd: fluffy2097: TheHappyCanadian: ftfa: At first, Lewis did not notice any damage or anything amiss about his car. But when he went to a gas station to have it washed, he spotted scratches on the side and a cracked rear window.

TEMPERED GLASS DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY

[adadfirst.com image 850x637]
[lh3.ggpht.com image 500x375]
[www.cardetailingeugene.com image 300x225]

Oh look! It CAN work that way!

/Today you learned that glass is an unpredictable material with multiple failure modes.

All of your pictures are of windshields which are made of safety glass, and not of rear windows which are made of tempered glass. Maybe you just learned something too.


Englebert Slaptyback: Maybe someday you'll learn the difference between laminate safety glass - which is used for the windshields you posted - and tempered glass, which is used for the other windows.


Maybe you guys have never heard about cars with laminated side windows.

You see, normally, most cars have tempered side windows. And on those cars, you would be right. But Mercedes, Lexus and probably other luxury car makers have been using laminated glass in the side windows for many years now. Just like my Dad's 1951 Ford truck.
2012-11-17 09:12:53 AM
2 votes:

SphericalTime: I'm more enjoying the fact that the police were caught running a red light while the car was impounded.


Tennessee had to enact a law because of things like this. Cops were either racing, and I mean racing - like 100mph in a 45mph road - to calls without lights and sirens, or with lights and no sirens, or just flipping on their lights and running the red light.

It took a girl dying in Chattanooga because of police improperly using their warning equipment to get the law passed. Even now, they don't obey it.

Every now and then, you get incidents like this, where a cop was speeding to a non-emergency call, ran a red-light, and killed a family of three from Senatobia as they pulled through the intersection and had the green. Crash data indicated the officer never even slowed as he approached the intersection, a 30mph Road, and was doing at least 70 on impact with the side of their vehicle.
2012-11-17 07:58:06 AM
2 votes:
I'm more enjoying the fact that the police were caught running a red light while the car was impounded.
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-11-18 09:40:19 AM
1 votes:
The First Circuit did not create an unconditional right to record police. The recording in Glik was not illegal under state law, as a matter of statutory interpretation, and so there was no conflict between statute and rights. Secretly recording a police officer pulling you over is clearly illegal under state law; there is a case exactly on point (Hyde). The Seventh Circuit said there was a constitutional right to record (not merely observe) police doing highly public acts like crowd control. The court's decision in Alavarez did not necessarily imply a right to record a traffic stop or a police officer messing with your phone in a semi-private place. The Third Circuit rejected a constitutional right to record a traffic stop.

Courts have construed Massachusetts' ban on secret recording to allow recording by cell phones and security cameras in plain sight under circumstances where a reasonable person would believe they were recording video.
2012-11-17 03:52:15 PM
1 votes:

TheHappyCanadian: ftfa: At first, Lewis did not notice any damage or anything amiss about his car. But when he went to a gas station to have it washed, he spotted scratches on the side and a cracked rear window.

TEMPERED GLASS DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY


While most cars use tempered glass for the side and rear windows, many modern cars are starting to use laminated glass, like what is used for windshields,for at least the side windows, and many on the back glass. Mercedes is one of the manufacturers doing this. Volvo is another, and many SUVs have it as well. It's considered safer in a rollover accident.
2012-11-17 03:03:04 PM
1 votes:

Aikidogamer: That is what happens when a liquid slows down to the point it acts like a solid in most cases, you know, until you break it and it is not uniform.


Glass is not a liquid. That's an urban legend, formed from a misunderstanding about how glass for windows was made in the Middle Ages.

It is a solid, otherwise obsidian* points would get crushed out of recognition after being in the ground for tens of thousands of years, and things like blown glass bottles would have deformed over the centuries.

*Obsidian in merely naturally formed glass
2012-11-17 02:57:57 PM
1 votes:

fluffy2097: TheHappyCanadian: ftfa: At first, Lewis did not notice any damage or anything amiss about his car. But when he went to a gas station to have it washed, he spotted scratches on the side and a cracked rear window.

TEMPERED GLASS DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY

[adadfirst.com image 850x637]
[lh3.ggpht.com image 500x375]
[www.cardetailingeugene.com image 300x225]

Oh look! It CAN work that way!

/Today you learned that glass is an unpredictable material with multiple failure modes.


Those are front windshields. By law, they are made of a "sandwich" of glass/plastic/glass to prevent something like a rock kicked up by a truck from spraying glass at your face while you drive down the highway. That is why you can get a big crack in your front windshield but it stays together.

Side and rear windshields aren't required to be of the same material.

Glass by itself, whether tempered or untempered, has very predictable failure modes. In fact, untempered glass is so predictable in the way that it shatters that you can make stuff with it:

i56.tinypic.com

Those are my very first attempts at making projectile points. very first one at the top left, then going in order clockwise. The last two were supposed to be a knife blade like Oetzi carried, but in my inexperience I snapped the large blade, so I turned it into an arrowhead and a spear point.
2012-11-17 01:19:36 PM
1 votes:

MooseUpNorth: iheartscotch: The way I read the article; the reason the suspect was arrested was because HE was the one that ran the red light.

Different incident. The red light camera ticket was issued and timestamped the next day while he was still in custody. Sans car.

More generally, *shrug*, as for the credit card claim, my mother's elderly friend was on a bus tour to NYC a few years ago. A border guard planted weed in her checked baggage to screw with her. (Or claimed to have done so to gauge her reactions... which was almost-shiat-herself scared and confused. Essentially ruined the trip for her and most of her friends.) As a result of that (and other similar shenanigans by law enforcement), it's hard for me to accept claims of "we pulled them over for this and gollee, we found that" at face value.


Oh, I didn't see the second incident in the article.

*re-reads the article*

Still didn't see the second incident; is this like the picture of the girl in the bikini, where you have to look for the boat? I have never been able to find the boat in that one.

I'll just assume that there's a second article with more information.

A police officer admitted planting evidence to gauge her reaction? And wasn't immediately fired? That kind of stuff would torpedo an entire career. In a lot of departments; if an officer can be tied to even a lie by omission, that officer immediatly looses their job.
2012-11-17 01:10:49 PM
1 votes:

MooseUpNorth: iheartscotch: The way I read the article; the reason the suspect was arrested was because HE was the one that ran the red light.

Different incident. The red light camera ticket was issued and timestamped the next day while he was still in custody. Sans car.

More generally, *shrug*, as for the credit card claim, my mother's elderly friend was on a bus tour to NYC a few years ago. A border guard planted weed in her checked baggage to screw with her. (Or claimed to have done so to gauge her reactions... which was almost-shiat-herself scared and confused. Essentially ruined the trip for her and most of her friends.) As a result of that (and other similar shenanigans by law enforcement), it's hard for me to accept claims of "we pulled them over for this and gollee, we found that" at face value.


When you're in power, it's fun to terrify those not in power. It's a minor sadism, but it's a recognizable sadism. And such sadism is usually followed by the classic "What? It's a joke! Can't you take a joke?!" excuse.
2012-11-17 01:02:58 PM
1 votes:
Meanwhile, deep in the underground how-to-cover-shiat-up room at the police station......

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"Awright Jenkins, you're in charge of coming up with an excuse for tho cop's mug on the phone....something along the lines of not knowing how to turn it off, see....
And Williams, you take care of the red-light camera thing. Something about transferring the car when you got a call about drowning orphans and we had to respond. Yeah, see....that's the ticket."
2012-11-17 01:02:07 PM
1 votes:
Strausz: Do you guys know who the fark I am? Do you know who the fark I am?

[Hockney rips cop's badge off]

Hockney: We do now, jerk-off.

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Couldn't find the pic I want, so the aftermath will have to do.
2012-11-17 12:59:07 PM
1 votes:

Endive Wombat: ZAZ: Endive Wombat

In Massachusetts a guy was just arraigned on felony wiretapping charges for having his girlfriend record him getting a speeding ticket.  No reason these apps have to be legal if police don't like them.

As much as that sucks, I fear a few more of these cases are going to have to happen before lawmakers realize that technology has reached a point where throwing people in jail for filming/recording their interactions with law enforcement is stupid, and recording is now the norm moving forward.


Recording will be legal. Recording police actions will be illegal.
2012-11-17 12:51:45 PM
1 votes:
I thought the courts ruled they can go through your phone but you are not obligated to give them the password to unlock it if it is password protected.........is what the nypd did here an illegal act in the same way that Obama is not the legitimate president?...ie wishful thinking on someones part.
2012-11-17 12:49:13 PM
1 votes:
they allegedly found a stack of bogus credit cards inside, according to the criminal complaint.

the plainclothes cops may have only been trying to shut off Lewis's phone, and not trying to peer into his personal data


Innocent until proven guilty. The cops are entitled to it just as much as this guy.
2012-11-17 12:48:43 PM
1 votes:
GLASS CANNOT NOT WORK THAT WAY EXCEPT WHENEVER IT DOES WORK THAT WAY! THERE IS NO WAY A REAR WINDSCREEN COULD DO THAT EXCEPT WHEN IT CAN.

DERRHHUHUHEHEHERHRRHR.

/Way to prove yourselves to be dumber then someone who knows nothing about auto glass.
//lulz.
2012-11-17 12:37:47 PM
1 votes:

Chevello


Maybe you guys have never heard about cars with laminated side windows.

You see, normally, most cars have tempered side windows. And on those cars, you would be right. But Mercedes, Lexus and probably other luxury car makers have been using laminated glass in the side windows for many years now. Just like my Dad's 1951 Ford truck.


And that's fine. The point was that fluffy posted three pics of windshields and called them tempered glass, which I believe we can all agree is incorrect.
2012-11-17 12:35:45 PM
1 votes:

DSanchez: Let's see... he had a stack of stolen credit cards in his mercedes...

And I'm working weekends to make ends meet, working legally I might add.

I feel a tremendous amount of sympathy for this guy......


You mean the stolen credit cards that were found by the same officers who had earlier taken the car for a joyride and were found after the sane officers pulled over the owner for the crime the they comitted while on the joyride?

Actually, it'll probably stick.
2012-11-17 12:03:35 PM
1 votes:

fluffy2097: TheHappyCanadian: ftfa: At first, Lewis did not notice any damage or anything amiss about his car. But when he went to a gas station to have it washed, he spotted scratches on the side and a cracked rear window.

TEMPERED GLASS DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY

[adadfirst.com image 850x637]
[lh3.ggpht.com image 500x375]
[www.cardetailingeugene.com image 300x225]

Oh look! It CAN work that way!

/Today you learned that glass is an unpredictable material with multiple failure modes.


All of your pictures are of windshields which are made of safety glass, and not of rear windows which are made of tempered glass. Maybe you just learned something too.
2012-11-17 12:03:27 PM
1 votes:

TheHappyCanadian: ftfa: At first, Lewis did not notice any damage or anything amiss about his car. But when he went to a gas station to have it washed, he spotted scratches on the side and a cracked rear window.

TEMPERED GLASS DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY


Explain that to the Safelite Auto Glass guy coming to my house at noon.
2012-11-17 11:57:54 AM
1 votes:
assets.dnainfo.com

now that is a punchable face.
2012-11-17 11:52:10 AM
1 votes:
I've never understood the term 'X finest' when referring to the police. I mean, what, is it like the term 'The Good Folk' when talking about faeries? I'm sorry, but for example, "New York's finest", New York's finest what, assholes?.
2012-11-17 11:51:47 AM
1 votes:
ftfa: At first, Lewis did not notice any damage or anything amiss about his car. But when he went to a gas station to have it washed, he spotted scratches on the side and a cracked rear window.

TEMPERED GLASS DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY
2012-11-17 10:32:32 AM
1 votes:

ZAZ: Endive Wombat

In Massachusetts a guy was just arraigned on felony wiretapping charges for having his girlfriend record him getting a speeding ticket.  No reason these apps have to be legal if police don't like them.


As much as that sucks, I fear a few more of these cases are going to have to happen before lawmakers realize that technology has reached a point where throwing people in jail for filming/recording their interactions with law enforcement is stupid, and recording is now the norm moving forward.
2012-11-17 09:18:07 AM
1 votes:
A fraud suspect who said NYPD officers took his flashy Mercedes-Benz for a joyride

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