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(DNA Info)   NYPD cops caught on cam by "igotya" app trying to access iPhone. That is illegal officers, but we'll give you some time to fabricate a tale. Hmm, maybe you were just trying to turn it off?...yeah, let's go with that   (dnainfo.com) divider line 118
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2012-11-17 01:02:07 PM  
Strausz: Do you guys know who the fark I am? Do you know who the fark I am?

[Hockney rips cop's badge off]

Hockney: We do now, jerk-off.

i.ytimg.com

Couldn't find the pic I want, so the aftermath will have to do.
 
2012-11-17 01:02:58 PM  
Meanwhile, deep in the underground how-to-cover-shiat-up room at the police station......

i486.photobucket.com
"Awright Jenkins, you're in charge of coming up with an excuse for tho cop's mug on the phone....something along the lines of not knowing how to turn it off, see....
And Williams, you take care of the red-light camera thing. Something about transferring the car when you got a call about drowning orphans and we had to respond. Yeah, see....that's the ticket."
 
2012-11-17 01:04:13 PM  
It's obvious from the photo that it was actually Gilbert Gottfried trying to break into the phone.
 
2012-11-17 01:05:29 PM  

iheartscotch: The way I read the article; the reason the suspect was arrested was because HE was the one that ran the red light.


Different incident. The red light camera ticket was issued and timestamped the next day while he was still in custody. Sans car.

More generally, *shrug*, as for the credit card claim, my mother's elderly friend was on a bus tour to NYC a few years ago. A border guard planted weed in her checked baggage to screw with her. (Or claimed to have done so to gauge her reactions... which was almost-shiat-herself scared and confused. Essentially ruined the trip for her and most of her friends.) As a result of that (and other similar shenanigans by law enforcement), it's hard for me to accept claims of "we pulled them over for this and gollee, we found that" at face value.
 
2012-11-17 01:10:49 PM  

MooseUpNorth: iheartscotch: The way I read the article; the reason the suspect was arrested was because HE was the one that ran the red light.

Different incident. The red light camera ticket was issued and timestamped the next day while he was still in custody. Sans car.

More generally, *shrug*, as for the credit card claim, my mother's elderly friend was on a bus tour to NYC a few years ago. A border guard planted weed in her checked baggage to screw with her. (Or claimed to have done so to gauge her reactions... which was almost-shiat-herself scared and confused. Essentially ruined the trip for her and most of her friends.) As a result of that (and other similar shenanigans by law enforcement), it's hard for me to accept claims of "we pulled them over for this and gollee, we found that" at face value.


When you're in power, it's fun to terrify those not in power. It's a minor sadism, but it's a recognizable sadism. And such sadism is usually followed by the classic "What? It's a joke! Can't you take a joke?!" excuse.
 
2012-11-17 01:11:02 PM  
This just in - Cops seldom obey the law.
 
2012-11-17 01:11:12 PM  

iheartscotch: MooseUpNorth: iheartscotch: As to the scratches on the car; if they towed the car, it could have gotten scratched while it was at the impound lot.

And clearly, the tow truck was responsible for the red light camera ticket. Obviously.

The way I read the article; the reason the suspect was arrested was because HE was the one that ran the red light.

Perhaps I read the article wrong. If so, I'll say this; dyslexia strikes again.


He was pulled over for running a red light, then arrested and his car impounded when they found fake credit cards. He received a 2nd red light camera ticket in the mail that occurred while the car was impounded.
 
2012-11-17 01:12:40 PM  
Do red light cameras in New York take pictures of the drivers/passengers through the windshield? I know that red-light cameras have different focal points, some just being the license plate, others being a larger picture of the license plate and rear of the car as it traveled through the intersection, and then there are some who take two pictures: one of the driver through the front windshield and then a rear picture of the car/license plate. Wouldn't the ticket that the guy got for the second red-light incident have pictures showing who was in the car, the velocity of the vehicle, and other relevant data to back up his claim that it was a joyride?

Besides, aren't cars towed to impound lots and not driven by people? It seems to me that if it was going to the impound lot and a cop was driving it, then it really was a joyride and someone just wanted to try out a Mercedes.
 
2012-11-17 01:12:52 PM  

offmymeds: Nah. You want to use the Yellow Pages for that. Doesn't leave any marks.


Or take oranges and wrap them in a towel
don3k.nocorvair.com
Just call me Bobo, Frank
 
2012-11-17 01:18:11 PM  

iheartscotch: On one hand, yeah I could see the suspect's side. On the other hand, I can see the shear incompetence of the NYPD leading an attempt to turn the phone off resulting in the tamper app being activated.

As to the scratches on the car; if they towed the car, it could have gotten scratched while it was at the impound lot.


"shear incompetence" ...awesome, just awesome!
 
2012-11-17 01:18:20 PM  
wambu


But he's a crook so he's free game for the cops since he has no civil rights.

The police are here to protect the rights of people not in custody or under suspicion or planning to commit some crime or possessing potential criminal tools or . . .
Not even that. Police have no duty to protect
 
2012-11-17 01:19:36 PM  

MooseUpNorth: iheartscotch: The way I read the article; the reason the suspect was arrested was because HE was the one that ran the red light.

Different incident. The red light camera ticket was issued and timestamped the next day while he was still in custody. Sans car.

More generally, *shrug*, as for the credit card claim, my mother's elderly friend was on a bus tour to NYC a few years ago. A border guard planted weed in her checked baggage to screw with her. (Or claimed to have done so to gauge her reactions... which was almost-shiat-herself scared and confused. Essentially ruined the trip for her and most of her friends.) As a result of that (and other similar shenanigans by law enforcement), it's hard for me to accept claims of "we pulled them over for this and gollee, we found that" at face value.


Oh, I didn't see the second incident in the article.

*re-reads the article*

Still didn't see the second incident; is this like the picture of the girl in the bikini, where you have to look for the boat? I have never been able to find the boat in that one.

I'll just assume that there's a second article with more information.

A police officer admitted planting evidence to gauge her reaction? And wasn't immediately fired? That kind of stuff would torpedo an entire career. In a lot of departments; if an officer can be tied to even a lie by omission, that officer immediatly looses their job.
 
2012-11-17 01:24:20 PM  

RatMotor: iheartscotch: MooseUpNorth: iheartscotch: As to the scratches on the car; if they towed the car, it could have gotten scratched while it was at the impound lot.

And clearly, the tow truck was responsible for the red light camera ticket. Obviously.

The way I read the article; the reason the suspect was arrested was because HE was the one that ran the red light.

Perhaps I read the article wrong. If so, I'll say this; dyslexia strikes again.

He was pulled over for running a red light, then arrested and his car impounded when they found fake credit cards. He received a 2nd red light camera ticket in the mail that occurred while the car was impounded.


Still didn't see the second incident in the linked article; I'm assuming there's a second article.

Either that, or you guys read a different article.
 
2012-11-17 01:28:57 PM  

iheartscotch: Still didn't see the second incident; is this like the picture of the girl in the bikini, where you have to look for the boat? I have never been able to find the boat in that one.


Lewis said he got two emails with the faces captured by his hidden app - who he said he recognized as the two plainclothes cops who arrested him Aug. 3 on charges of blowing through a red light in front of Bloomingdales at East 59th St. in his Mercedes.

[...]

Then, on Aug. 15, he received a $50 ticket in the mail accompanied by a red light photo of his car running a traffic light while traveling southbound on 12th Avenue at 34th Street.

"I could not remember running any red light on 34th St.," Lewis said. "Then I looked at the time and date."

It read 2:12 p.m. on Aug. 4, the day after his arrest.

"I realized that that was when I was in custody," he said.


Lewis insists the cops must have taken his flashy car for a joyride.

The NYPD says Lewis' car was being transferred to another police facility when it received the red-light summons.

But the summons showed the car was traveling southbound heading toward Brooklyn, which prompted Kornberg to claim the NYPD's explanation "is not credible."


Whatever the IAB outcome of the joyride charge, the NYPD said the summons will be voided so Lewis will not have to pay. Police offficials said Lewis never complained about car damage when he picked up his car.
 
2012-11-17 01:30:59 PM  

iheartscotch: RatMotor: iheartscotch: MooseUpNorth: iheartscotch: As to the scratches on the car; if they towed the car, it could have gotten scratched while it was at the impound lot.

And clearly, the tow truck was responsible for the red light camera ticket. Obviously.

The way I read the article; the reason the suspect was arrested was because HE was the one that ran the red light.

Perhaps I read the article wrong. If so, I'll say this; dyslexia strikes again.

He was pulled over for running a red light, then arrested and his car impounded when they found fake credit cards. He received a 2nd red light camera ticket in the mail that occurred while the car was impounded.

Still didn't see the second incident in the linked article; I'm assuming there's a second article.

Either that, or you guys read a different article.


"I could not remember running any red light on 34th St.," Lewis said. "Then I looked at the time and date."
It read 2:12 p.m. on Aug. 4, the day after his arrest.
"I realized that that was when I was in custody," he said.
 
2012-11-17 01:31:19 PM  

CygnusDarius: I've never understood the term 'X finest' when referring to the police. I mean, what, is it like the term 'The Good Folk' when talking about faeries? I'm sorry, but for example, "New York's finest", New York's finest what, assholes?.


Remove one word there, and you answered your own question.
 
2012-11-17 01:35:02 PM  

MooseUpNorth: iheartscotch: Still didn't see the second incident; is this like the picture of the girl in the bikini, where you have to look for the boat? I have never been able to find the boat in that one.

Lewis said he got two emails with the faces captured by his hidden app - who he said he recognized as the two plainclothes cops who arrested him Aug. 3 on charges of blowing through a red light in front of Bloomingdales at East 59th St. in his Mercedes.

[...]

Then, on Aug. 15, he received a $50 ticket in the mail accompanied by a red light photo of his car running a traffic light while traveling southbound on 12th Avenue at 34th Street.

"I could not remember running any red light on 34th St.," Lewis said. "Then I looked at the time and date."

It read 2:12 p.m. on Aug. 4, the day after his arrest.

"I realized that that was when I was in custody," he said.

Lewis insists the cops must have taken his flashy car for a joyride.

The NYPD says Lewis' car was being transferred to another police facility when it received the red-light summons.

But the summons showed the car was traveling southbound heading toward Brooklyn, which prompted Kornberg to claim the NYPD's explanation "is not credible."

Whatever the IAB outcome of the joyride charge, the NYPD said the summons will be voided so Lewis will not have to pay. Police offficials said Lewis never complained about car damage when he picked up his car.


Ah, I see, damn mobile websites.
 
2012-11-17 01:35:22 PM  

MooseUpNorth: More generally, *shrug*, as for the credit card claim, my mother's elderly friend was on a bus tour to NYC a few years ago. A border guard planted weed in her checked baggage to screw with her. (Or claimed to have done so to gauge her reactions... which was almost-shiat-herself scared and confused. Essentially ruined the trip for her and most of her friends.) As a result of that (and other similar shenanigans by law enforcement), it's hard for me to accept claims of "we pulled them over for this and gollee, we found that" at face value.


I experienced something similar. I had called 911 to report having found the body of a relative and the local police were the first on the scene and while one of them was checking the body for signs of foul play the other stood around with me, soon sniffing the air and asking if he smelled marijuana. Neither I nor the deceased relative had ever been users of marijuana, he just wanted to see how I would react to the implication... with a dead family member down the hall.
 
2012-11-17 01:35:55 PM  

hbk72777: BronyMedic: First they shoot 9 people while aiming at one guy, and then this? NYPD's running streak of fail continues.

what do you want for $35,000 a year?


I think by 35K you mean FDNY EMS division. They have Paramedics on foodstamps because they can't afford to live in the city with what they make. The Fire Side of it seems to have no problem....
 
2012-11-17 01:36:29 PM  
It would seem that the NYPD thinks a little too highly of itself: first you have a couple of decades of police procedurals on the TeeVee portraying the NYPD as a bunch of heroes and those that question them as a bunch of meddlers that love criminals. Then you have 9-11, where it was actually the fire department that did the heavy lifting. And now you have a mayor, Mike Bloomberg, that coddles them because he too, is an authoritarian piece of shiat.

With all that said, can we now just admit that the NYPD is a bunch of farking scum? Is it that hard, after their officers shot nine innocent people to get one shooter? Or stopped and frisked people based solely on race? Or lied on their stats to make it look like the crime rate was going down when in fact it wasn't?

The NYPD deserves no respect. fark this bunch of scum
 
2012-11-17 01:36:29 PM  
I read the headline as Yobogoya.

/Taco Corp.
 
2012-11-17 01:37:58 PM  

ZAZ: Endive Wombat

In Massachusetts a guy was just arraigned on felony wiretapping charges for having his girlfriend record him getting a speeding ticket.  No reason these apps have to be legal if police don't like them.


If they're smart they'll fight it. They usually use those cheap scare an ignorant citizen into a plea but always drop the charge if the citizen is spoiling for a fight because they know that law would get curbstomped in an upper court
 
2012-11-17 01:38:59 PM  

generallyso: he just wanted to see how I would react to the implication... with a dead family member down the hall.


What a farkmunch.
 
2012-11-17 01:42:05 PM  

TheHappyCanadian: Chevello: You see, normally, most cars have tempered side windows. And on those cars, you would be right. But Mercedes, Lexus and probably other luxury car makers have been using laminated glass in the side windows for many years now. Just like my Dad's 1951 Ford truck.

there ya go!

but I think your dad's old truck came from a time when tempered glass wasn't feasible, or was too expensive for mass-production. not to say that laminated/slumped glass is cheap either, unless you have an autoclave handy


And the windows were flat, so easier to produce in laminated type. Point being not all car side windows are tempered glass, even old beat-up Fords. :)

Englebert Slaptyback:

And that's fine. The point was that fluffy posted three pics of windshields and called them tempered glass, which I believe we can all agree is incorrect.


OK, I'll go along with that, but your comment could be taken to mean that you didn't think there were any laminated glass side windows.

And I couldn't pass up the chance, no matter how slight, that someone might be wrong on the internet!
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-11-17 01:49:59 PM  
Tainted1

Massachusetts supreme court precedent says you can be convicted of a felony for recording police harassing you during a traffic stop. The rule is not "recording in violation of reasonable expectation of privacy" but "secretly recording."  There was some talk at the time of changing the law but politicians hate to go against the police union.
 
2012-11-17 01:53:45 PM  
Sources said that the plainclothes cops may have only been trying to shut off Lewis's phone, and not trying to peer into his personal data, which would be a violation of his privacy.

So you want me to believe that the people who just sent this guy through the criminal justice system are so conserned for him, that they tried to turn off his phone so the battery doesn't die?

the cops:
i235.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-17 01:56:30 PM  
CSB buddy and I were drunk, hitting golf balls off the roof of my condo bldg. I thinned a 5-iron, it hit the parapet and hopped down into the side parking lot, where it met the rear window of a new Mercedes. It blew that farker up. Every square cm, reduced to rubble.
 
2012-11-17 02:07:14 PM  

wingnut396: hbk72777: BronyMedic: First they shoot 9 people while aiming at one guy, and then this? NYPD's running streak of fail continues.

what do you want for $35,000 a year?

By 35,000 do you mean $44,744 while in academy and going up from there?


Looking at that sliding scale, it seems NYPD officers get better pay than most US military officers. Of course, you have to live in New York, and work with its worst people, but their pay is higher than a comparable lieutenant or captain (ensign or lieutenant if you're Navy) even after you consider the DoD's BAH, BAS and other benefits.
And MUCH higher than any comparable enlisted man is making.
 
2012-11-17 02:12:52 PM  

Chevello


And I couldn't pass up the chance, no matter how slight, that someone might be wrong on the internet!


Heck, no!

*fistbump*
 
2012-11-17 02:13:59 PM  
What?!?! You mean a lot of the people who get hired as cops aren't really in it because they want to help people? I AM SHOCKED, I TELL YOU!
 
2012-11-17 02:15:21 PM  

AJisaff: fluffy2097: TheHappyCanadian: ftfa: At first, Lewis did not notice any damage or anything amiss about his car. But when he went to a gas station to have it washed, he spotted scratches on the side and a cracked rear window.

TEMPERED GLASS DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY

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[www.cardetailingeugene.com image 300x225]

Oh look! It CAN work that way!

/Today you learned that glass is an unpredictable material with multiple failure modes.



Oh look! a tard that doesn't know that rear windows are tempered glass, and front windows are coated with plastic, SO THEY DON"T CRAZE like tempered glass...
and yeah. i know what the fark i am talking about.


All rear windows, on all cars?

What about cars with UV or heat insulating features on all windows, or just standard auto tint?
 
2012-11-17 02:20:00 PM  
Oh snap! Glass nerd fight! Glass nerd fight!!
 
2012-11-17 02:21:49 PM  

fluffy2097: TheHappyCanadian: ftfa: At first, Lewis did not notice any damage or anything amiss about his car. But when he went to a gas station to have it washed, he spotted scratches on the side and a cracked rear window.

TEMPERED GLASS DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY





Oh look! It CAN work that way!

/Today you learned that glass is an unpredictable material with multiple failure modes.


That is what happens when a liquid slows down to the point it acts like a solid in most cases, you know, until you break it and it is not uniform.
 
2012-11-17 02:24:18 PM  
From a fireman rescue site, describing how to break into a Mercedes to save crash victims:

Laminated Rear Window Glass

There is something else different about this vandalized Mercedes-Benz S-500 automobile. A second window design that again may catch the rescuer off guard is the rear window glass may be laminated. All outward appearances will be that the glass is normal. The assumption will be that it is tempered glass just like all the other vehicle windows you've broken out on this vehicle at the crash scene.


Link
 
2012-11-17 02:25:05 PM  

iheartscotch: On the other hand, I can see the shear incompetence of the NYPD leading an attempt to turn the phone off resulting in the tamper app being activated.



I know right, those cops were just trying to be nice! They turned off his phone so he can contact dealers and thugs when he gets out of jail, even fraudsters need phone juice.

I dont understand the outrage or mockery here.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2012-11-17 02:30:08 PM  
Shiat, those MBs have expensive glass on them.
I would not want to have to pay for replacing those suckers.

/always keep full glass coverage on all my cars because of costs.
 
2012-11-17 02:30:59 PM  
Thanks guys!

Between the idiots that litter the article itself, the chuckleheads in this thread arguing over who is more wrong and those who simply cannot comprehend what they are reading this whole thing has really made my day.
 
2012-11-17 02:45:08 PM  
Today I have learned to hold my finger over the front camera when illegally accessing someone's cell phone.

Thanks Fark!
 
2012-11-17 02:53:03 PM  

DrSieb: Today I have learned to hold my finger over the front camera when illegally accessing someone's cell phone.

Thanks Fark!


take a bite out of crime

washhumane.typepad.com

looks awfully similar to

www.qsrmagazine.com
 
2012-11-17 02:57:57 PM  

fluffy2097: TheHappyCanadian: ftfa: At first, Lewis did not notice any damage or anything amiss about his car. But when he went to a gas station to have it washed, he spotted scratches on the side and a cracked rear window.

TEMPERED GLASS DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY

[adadfirst.com image 850x637]
[lh3.ggpht.com image 500x375]
[www.cardetailingeugene.com image 300x225]

Oh look! It CAN work that way!

/Today you learned that glass is an unpredictable material with multiple failure modes.


Those are front windshields. By law, they are made of a "sandwich" of glass/plastic/glass to prevent something like a rock kicked up by a truck from spraying glass at your face while you drive down the highway. That is why you can get a big crack in your front windshield but it stays together.

Side and rear windshields aren't required to be of the same material.

Glass by itself, whether tempered or untempered, has very predictable failure modes. In fact, untempered glass is so predictable in the way that it shatters that you can make stuff with it:

i56.tinypic.com

Those are my very first attempts at making projectile points. very first one at the top left, then going in order clockwise. The last two were supposed to be a knife blade like Oetzi carried, but in my inexperience I snapped the large blade, so I turned it into an arrowhead and a spear point.
 
2012-11-17 03:03:04 PM  

Aikidogamer: That is what happens when a liquid slows down to the point it acts like a solid in most cases, you know, until you break it and it is not uniform.


Glass is not a liquid. That's an urban legend, formed from a misunderstanding about how glass for windows was made in the Middle Ages.

It is a solid, otherwise obsidian* points would get crushed out of recognition after being in the ground for tens of thousands of years, and things like blown glass bottles would have deformed over the centuries.

*Obsidian in merely naturally formed glass
 
2012-11-17 03:04:08 PM  
"I could not remember running any red light on 34th St.," Lewis said.

Now as for 32nd, 33nd, 40th and 44th Streets? Those I remember. But 34th, no.
 
2012-11-17 03:12:40 PM  

Giltric: I thought the courts ruled they can go through your phone but you are not obligated to give them the password to unlock it if it is password protected.........is what the nypd did here an illegal act in the same way that Obama is not the legitimate president?...ie wishful thinking on someones part.


Apparently, the federal courts are split on whether searching a cellphone seized incident to a lawful arrest needs a warrant or not, and different states have different laws on the matter.
\
 
2012-11-17 03:18:47 PM  
This technology shift allowing everyman to play big brother to big brother is going to create some interesting times...
 
2012-11-17 03:52:15 PM  

TheHappyCanadian: ftfa: At first, Lewis did not notice any damage or anything amiss about his car. But when he went to a gas station to have it washed, he spotted scratches on the side and a cracked rear window.

TEMPERED GLASS DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY


While most cars use tempered glass for the side and rear windows, many modern cars are starting to use laminated glass, like what is used for windshields,for at least the side windows, and many on the back glass. Mercedes is one of the manufacturers doing this. Volvo is another, and many SUVs have it as well. It's considered safer in a rollover accident.
 
2012-11-17 04:07:03 PM  

Primum: Like we're going to believe anything a guy with a stack of fake or stolen credit cards has to say. Put him in a room naked and throw cold water on him, then beat him with sand-filled rubber hoses.


And take pictures.
 
2012-11-17 04:11:31 PM  

Sczi: Oh snap! Glass nerd fight! Glass nerd fight!!


I know...it's a pane how crazed they get; one could wish they were better...tempered.
 
2012-11-17 04:16:13 PM  

dittybopper: fluffy2097: TheHappyCanadian: ftfa: At first, Lewis did not notice any damage or anything amiss about his car. But when he went to a gas station to have it washed, he spotted scratches on the side and a cracked rear window.

TEMPERED GLASS DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY

[adadfirst.com image 850x637]
[lh3.ggpht.com image 500x375]
[www.cardetailingeugene.com image 300x225]

Oh look! It CAN work that way!

/Today you learned that glass is an unpredictable material with multiple failure modes.

Those are front windshields. By law, they are made of a "sandwich" of glass/plastic/glass to prevent something like a rock kicked up by a truck from spraying glass at your face while you drive down the highway. That is why you can get a big crack in your front windshield but it stays together.

Side and rear windshields aren't required to be of the same material.

Glass by itself, whether tempered or untempered, has very predictable failure modes. In fact, untempered glass is so predictable in the way that it shatters that you can make stuff with it:

[i56.tinypic.com image 640x480]

Those are my very first attempts at making projectile points. very first one at the top left, then going in order clockwise. The last two were supposed to be a knife blade like Oetzi carried, but in my inexperience I snapped the large blade, so I turned it into an arrowhead and a spear point.


Dude. That's the coolest art I've seen today. You rock.

/Tempered Glass = Glass Punch. Laminated Glass = Fire Axe/Glassmaster.
 
2012-11-17 04:36:49 PM  
Who is more wrong doesn't matter. The cops should be more professional. They are farking cops for crying out loud.

And fark the police. Majority are just paid bullies who the law doesn't apply to
 
2012-11-17 04:40:27 PM  
i Goopta
dot not feather
 
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