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(DNA Info)   NYPD cops caught on cam by "igotya" app trying to access iPhone. That is illegal officers, but we'll give you some time to fabricate a tale. Hmm, maybe you were just trying to turn it off?...yeah, let's go with that   (dnainfo.com) divider line 118
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2012-11-17 06:43:20 AM  
First they shoot 9 people while aiming at one guy, and then this? NYPD's running streak of fail continues.
 
2012-11-17 07:24:23 AM  
There is so much Douchenozzelishness in this story I am just going to hate both parties.
 
2012-11-17 07:35:35 AM  
static.tvguide.com
 
2012-11-17 07:58:06 AM  
I'm more enjoying the fact that the police were caught running a red light while the car was impounded.
 
2012-11-17 08:41:38 AM  
I'm not at all shocked.
 
2012-11-17 09:12:53 AM  

SphericalTime: I'm more enjoying the fact that the police were caught running a red light while the car was impounded.


Tennessee had to enact a law because of things like this. Cops were either racing, and I mean racing - like 100mph in a 45mph road - to calls without lights and sirens, or with lights and no sirens, or just flipping on their lights and running the red light.

It took a girl dying in Chattanooga because of police improperly using their warning equipment to get the law passed. Even now, they don't obey it.

Every now and then, you get incidents like this, where a cop was speeding to a non-emergency call, ran a red-light, and killed a family of three from Senatobia as they pulled through the intersection and had the green. Crash data indicated the officer never even slowed as he approached the intersection, a 30mph Road, and was doing at least 70 on impact with the side of their vehicle.
 
2012-11-17 09:18:07 AM  
A fraud suspect who said NYPD officers took his flashy Mercedes-Benz for a joyride

www.vitalstatistics.info
 
2012-11-17 09:43:45 AM  
ayyy fuhgeddaboutit
 
2012-11-17 10:10:52 AM  
So this is an interesting unintended consequence of the "big brother" style cameras being installed everywhere. Average citizens have been concerned that the police/government was tracking their every movement...now with small pieces of technology and using the government's own tools against them, the average citizen is able to hold the police/government accountable for their illegal actions in a way that no one ever intended or foresaw.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-11-17 10:20:25 AM  
Endive Wombat

In Massachusetts a guy was just arraigned on felony wiretapping charges for having his girlfriend record him getting a speeding ticket.  No reason these apps have to be legal if police don't like them.
 
2012-11-17 10:32:32 AM  

ZAZ: Endive Wombat

In Massachusetts a guy was just arraigned on felony wiretapping charges for having his girlfriend record him getting a speeding ticket.  No reason these apps have to be legal if police don't like them.


As much as that sucks, I fear a few more of these cases are going to have to happen before lawmakers realize that technology has reached a point where throwing people in jail for filming/recording their interactions with law enforcement is stupid, and recording is now the norm moving forward.
 
2012-11-17 11:50:14 AM  
Like we're going to believe anything a guy with a stack of fake or stolen credit cards has to say. Put him in a room naked and throw cold water on him, then beat him with sand-filled rubber hoses.
 
2012-11-17 11:51:47 AM  
ftfa: At first, Lewis did not notice any damage or anything amiss about his car. But when he went to a gas station to have it washed, he spotted scratches on the side and a cracked rear window.

TEMPERED GLASS DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY
 
2012-11-17 11:52:10 AM  
I've never understood the term 'X finest' when referring to the police. I mean, what, is it like the term 'The Good Folk' when talking about faeries? I'm sorry, but for example, "New York's finest", New York's finest what, assholes?.
 
2012-11-17 11:52:56 AM  
I dunno. Not sure how far I can trust the word of a fraud suspect, BOTOH his claims could be legit, I suppose. Will have to wait for a follow-up if there'll be one.
 
2012-11-17 11:53:23 AM  

BronyMedic: First they shoot 9 people while aiming at one guy, and then this? NYPD's running streak of fail continues.


Their streak of failure runs all the way back to the 80's dude.
 
2012-11-17 11:56:52 AM  

TheHappyCanadian: ftfa: At first, Lewis did not notice any damage or anything amiss about his car. But when he went to a gas station to have it washed, he spotted scratches on the side and a cracked rear window.

TEMPERED GLASS DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY


adadfirst.com
lh3.ggpht.com
www.cardetailingeugene.com

Oh look! It CAN work that way!

/Today you learned that glass is an unpredictable material with multiple failure modes.
 
2012-11-17 11:57:54 AM  
assets.dnainfo.com

now that is a punchable face.
 
2012-11-17 11:58:48 AM  
NYC justice
 
2012-11-17 12:03:27 PM  

TheHappyCanadian: ftfa: At first, Lewis did not notice any damage or anything amiss about his car. But when he went to a gas station to have it washed, he spotted scratches on the side and a cracked rear window.

TEMPERED GLASS DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY


Explain that to the Safelite Auto Glass guy coming to my house at noon.
 
2012-11-17 12:03:35 PM  

fluffy2097: TheHappyCanadian: ftfa: At first, Lewis did not notice any damage or anything amiss about his car. But when he went to a gas station to have it washed, he spotted scratches on the side and a cracked rear window.

TEMPERED GLASS DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY

[adadfirst.com image 850x637]
[lh3.ggpht.com image 500x375]
[www.cardetailingeugene.com image 300x225]

Oh look! It CAN work that way!

/Today you learned that glass is an unpredictable material with multiple failure modes.


All of your pictures are of windshields which are made of safety glass, and not of rear windows which are made of tempered glass. Maybe you just learned something too.
 
2012-11-17 12:07:38 PM  

TheHappyCanadian: ftfa: At first, Lewis did not notice any damage or anything amiss about his car. But when he went to a gas station to have it washed, he spotted scratches on the side and a cracked rear window.

TEMPERED GLASS DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY


Then why have I seen cracks in car windows, front, side, and rear? I'll add this for you; chassis flex.
 
2012-11-17 12:09:30 PM  
On one hand, yeah I could see the suspect's side. On the other hand, I can see the shear incompetence of the NYPD leading an attempt to turn the phone off resulting in the tamper app being activated.

As to the scratches on the car; if they towed the car, it could have gotten scratched while it was at the impound lot.
 
2012-11-17 12:09:47 PM  

fluffy2097


TheHappyCanadian: ftfa: At first, Lewis did not notice any damage or anything amiss about his car. But when he went to a gas station to have it washed, he spotted scratches on the side and a cracked rear window.

TEMPERED GLASS DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY

[pics]

Oh look! It CAN work that way!

/Today you learned that glass is an unpredictable material with multiple failure modes.


Maybe someday you'll learn the difference between laminate safety glass - which is used for the windshields you posted - and tempered glass, which is used for the other windows.
 
2012-11-17 12:17:27 PM  
Let's see... he had a stack of stolen credit cards in his mercedes...

And I'm working weekends to make ends meet, working legally I might add.

I feel a tremendous amount of sympathy for this guy......
 
2012-11-17 12:19:18 PM  
Glass geek thread?

/grabs popcorn
 
2012-11-17 12:21:31 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: [assets.dnainfo.com image 320x240]

now that is a punchable face.


You'd want to use a glove, or your hand would get all greasy.
 
2012-11-17 12:22:30 PM  
Brewster's millions
 
2012-11-17 12:25:05 PM  

mikaloyd: fluffy2097: TheHappyCanadian: ftfa: At first, Lewis did not notice any damage or anything amiss about his car. But when he went to a gas station to have it washed, he spotted scratches on the side and a cracked rear window.

TEMPERED GLASS DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY

[adadfirst.com image 850x637]
[lh3.ggpht.com image 500x375]
[www.cardetailingeugene.com image 300x225]

Oh look! It CAN work that way!

/Today you learned that glass is an unpredictable material with multiple failure modes.

All of your pictures are of windshields which are made of safety glass, and not of rear windows which are made of tempered glass. Maybe you just learned something too.


Englebert Slaptyback: Maybe someday you'll learn the difference between laminate safety glass - which is used for the windshields you posted - and tempered glass, which is used for the other windows.


Maybe you guys have never heard about cars with laminated side windows.

You see, normally, most cars have tempered side windows. And on those cars, you would be right. But Mercedes, Lexus and probably other luxury car makers have been using laminated glass in the side windows for many years now. Just like my Dad's 1951 Ford truck.
 
2012-11-17 12:25:40 PM  

TheHappyCanadian: ftfa: At first, Lewis did not notice any damage or anything amiss about his car. But when he went to a gas station to have it washed, he spotted scratches on the side and a cracked rear window.

TEMPERED GLASS DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY


True, however MB cars have laminated safety glass for rear windows.
This makes them quieter than if they had tempered glass.

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-17 12:30:34 PM  

fluffy2097: TheHappyCanadian: ftfa: At first, Lewis did not notice any damage or anything amiss about his car. But when he went to a gas station to have it washed, he spotted scratches on the side and a cracked rear window.

TEMPERED GLASS DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY

[adadfirst.com image 850x637]
[lh3.ggpht.com image 500x375]
[www.cardetailingeugene.com image 300x225]

Oh look! It CAN work that way!

/Today you learned that glass is an unpredictable material with multiple failure modes.


oh I learned that fifteen years ago, when I started as a glazier, then got my journeyman certificate in 2010 which gave me an international red-seal certification to install glass anywhere in the world. To be fair though, some side windows can be laminated glass if it's been retrofitted for riot/vandalism protection, or if it has a laminate or thick tint on the inside that would hold exploded tempered glass together. I'm not sure what newer Mercedes uses since it's been years since I did auto glass, much less a Mercedes.

and if you want to be technical, I think Australia uses laminate glass for their rear windows
 
2012-11-17 12:32:01 PM  
But he's a crook so he's free game for the cops since he has no civil rights.

The police are here to protect the rights of people not in custody or under suspicion or planning to commit some crime or possessing potential criminal tools or . . .
 
2012-11-17 12:34:32 PM  

fluffy2097: TheHappyCanadian: ftfa: At first, Lewis did not notice any damage or anything amiss about his car. But when he went to a gas station to have it washed, he spotted scratches on the side and a cracked rear window.

TEMPERED GLASS DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY

[adadfirst.com image 850x637]
[lh3.ggpht.com image 500x375]
[www.cardetailingeugene.com image 300x225]

Oh look! It CAN work that way!

/Today you learned that glass is an unpredictable material with multiple failure modes.




Oh look! a tard that doesn't know that rear windows are tempered glass, and front windows are coated with plastic, SO THEY DON"T CRAZE like tempered glass...
and yeah. i know what the fark i am talking about.
 
2012-11-17 12:34:33 PM  

BronyMedic: SphericalTime: I'm more enjoying the fact that the police were caught running a red light while the car was impounded.

Tennessee had to enact a law because of things like this. Cops were either racing, and I mean racing - like 100mph in a 45mph road - to calls without lights and sirens, or with lights and no sirens, or just flipping on their lights and running the red light.

It took a girl dying in Chattanooga because of police improperly using their warning equipment to get the law passed. Even now, they don't obey it.

Every now and then, you get incidents like this, where a cop was speeding to a non-emergency call, ran a red-light, and killed a family of three from Senatobia as they pulled through the intersection and had the green. Crash data indicated the officer never even slowed as he approached the intersection, a 30mph Road, and was doing at least 70 on impact with the side of their vehicle.



yeah same thing happened near here just a few months ago.
 
2012-11-17 12:35:45 PM  

DSanchez: Let's see... he had a stack of stolen credit cards in his mercedes...

And I'm working weekends to make ends meet, working legally I might add.

I feel a tremendous amount of sympathy for this guy......


You mean the stolen credit cards that were found by the same officers who had earlier taken the car for a joyride and were found after the sane officers pulled over the owner for the crime the they comitted while on the joyride?

Actually, it'll probably stick.
 
2012-11-17 12:37:31 PM  

Chevello: You see, normally, most cars have tempered side windows. And on those cars, you would be right. But Mercedes, Lexus and probably other luxury car makers have been using laminated glass in the side windows for many years now. Just like my Dad's 1951 Ford truck.


there ya go!

but I think your dad's old truck came from a time when tempered glass wasn't feasible, or was too expensive for mass-production. not to say that laminated/slumped glass is cheap either, unless you have an autoclave handy
 
2012-11-17 12:37:47 PM  

Chevello


Maybe you guys have never heard about cars with laminated side windows.

You see, normally, most cars have tempered side windows. And on those cars, you would be right. But Mercedes, Lexus and probably other luxury car makers have been using laminated glass in the side windows for many years now. Just like my Dad's 1951 Ford truck.


And that's fine. The point was that fluffy posted three pics of windshields and called them tempered glass, which I believe we can all agree is incorrect.
 
2012-11-17 12:40:44 PM  

Primum: Like we're going to believe anything a guy with a stack of fake or stolen credit cards has to say. Put him in a room naked and throw cold water on him, then beat him with sand-filled rubber hoses.


Nah. You want to use the Yellow Pages for that. Doesn't leave any marks.
 
2012-11-17 12:44:37 PM  

iheartscotch: As to the scratches on the car; if they towed the car, it could have gotten scratched while it was at the impound lot.


And clearly, the tow truck was responsible for the red light camera ticket. Obviously.
 
2012-11-17 12:44:56 PM  

BronyMedic: First they shoot 9 people while aiming at one guy, and then this? NYPD's running streak of fail continues.


what do you want for $35,000 a year?
 
2012-11-17 12:48:19 PM  

DSanchez:

And I'm working weekends to make ends meet, working legally I might add.


Get a better job.
 
2012-11-17 12:48:25 PM  

MooseUpNorth: iheartscotch: As to the scratches on the car; if they towed the car, it could have gotten scratched while it was at the impound lot.

And clearly, the tow truck was responsible for the red light camera ticket. Obviously.


The way I read the article; the reason the suspect was arrested was because HE was the one that ran the red light.

Perhaps I read the article wrong. If so, I'll say this; dyslexia strikes again.
 
2012-11-17 12:48:43 PM  
GLASS CANNOT NOT WORK THAT WAY EXCEPT WHENEVER IT DOES WORK THAT WAY! THERE IS NO WAY A REAR WINDSCREEN COULD DO THAT EXCEPT WHEN IT CAN.

DERRHHUHUHEHEHERHRRHR.

/Way to prove yourselves to be dumber then someone who knows nothing about auto glass.
//lulz.
 
2012-11-17 12:49:13 PM  
they allegedly found a stack of bogus credit cards inside, according to the criminal complaint.

the plainclothes cops may have only been trying to shut off Lewis's phone, and not trying to peer into his personal data


Innocent until proven guilty. The cops are entitled to it just as much as this guy.
 
2012-11-17 12:49:35 PM  
In New York City's war on crime, the worst criminal offenders roll around the city with lights on top of their cars.

duh duh duhnn
 
2012-11-17 12:51:07 PM  

AJisaff:
Oh look! a tard that doesn't know that rear windows are tempered glass, and front windows are coated with plastic, SO THEY DON"T CRAZE like tempered glass...


oh do tell us how they "coat" the front windows with plastic!
I can't wait to hear this. 

AJisaff: "...and yeah. i know what the fark i am talking about."

I'm quite certain that you believe that.
 
2012-11-17 12:51:45 PM  
I thought the courts ruled they can go through your phone but you are not obligated to give them the password to unlock it if it is password protected.........is what the nypd did here an illegal act in the same way that Obama is not the legitimate president?...ie wishful thinking on someones part.
 
2012-11-17 12:53:23 PM  

hbk72777: BronyMedic: First they shoot 9 people while aiming at one guy, and then this? NYPD's running streak of fail continues.

what do you want for $35,000 a year?


By 35,000 do you mean $44,744 while in academy and going up from there?
 
2012-11-17 12:57:33 PM  

Nickelback: Glass geek thread?

/grabs popcorn


Last month a guy on another board was trying to cut a piece of tempered glass, rather than fabricate one to size and then have it tempered. People kept feeding him old wive's tales about how he could cut it with string soaked in kerosene and then set on fire and all kinds of other nonsense.
He went through 4 expensive pieces of hard to get glass before he decided to make something out of polycarbonate.
 
2012-11-17 12:59:07 PM  

Endive Wombat: ZAZ: Endive Wombat

In Massachusetts a guy was just arraigned on felony wiretapping charges for having his girlfriend record him getting a speeding ticket.  No reason these apps have to be legal if police don't like them.

As much as that sucks, I fear a few more of these cases are going to have to happen before lawmakers realize that technology has reached a point where throwing people in jail for filming/recording their interactions with law enforcement is stupid, and recording is now the norm moving forward.


Recording will be legal. Recording police actions will be illegal.
 
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