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(C|Net)   Cable companies decide not to disconnect accused pirates, probably because they're the only customers that aren't complaining about the service and cost   (news.cnet.com) divider line 17
    More: Followup, Time Warner Cable, Other People's Money, Declan McCullagh, Internet Society, Cablevision  
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2587 clicks; posted to Business » on 17 Nov 2012 at 8:09 AM (2 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2012-11-17 07:48:42 AM  
Yeah, they know the shiatstorm that's gonna fall if they pull the plug on some granny whose grandson was downloading Justin Bieber songs. It would be complete with her looking into the camera with sad eyes talking about how she struggled to learn how to use Facebook and Skype to keep in touch with her other grandkids who live far away, and now she can't.
 
2012-11-17 08:37:46 AM  
Perhaps they realized that if they admit that they can and will start policing traffic on their networks then they should be policing the actually bad stuff and lose their common carrier protections when they don't? IE let's say they went forward with actively trying to target and disable piracy on their own networks: Some IP factory could turn around and sue them for failing to stop the piracy when it doesn't work, just like the IP factories do when they sue some granny because someone else used her unprotected wifi to download Justin Beaver songs.
 
2012-11-17 08:40:42 AM  
"Land said that if termination is taken "off the table it helps in a number of ways," including making the entire system "more valid under human rights law" and alleviating due process concerns.
"

Are they saying terminate like kill a mother farker? Kinda sounds like it.
 
2012-11-17 09:37:25 AM  
'Piracy' only exists where the content provider is able but unwilling to provide their product at a price that a consumer is willing to pay.
 
2012-11-17 09:58:32 AM  

Tenebreux: 'Piracy' only exists where the content provider is able but unwilling to provide their product at a price that a consumer is willing to pay.


In a format the consumer wants to buy.
 
2012-11-17 10:04:17 AM  

BizarreMan: Tenebreux: 'Piracy' only exists where the content provider is able but unwilling to provide their product at a price that a consumer is willing to pay.

In a format the consumer wants to buy.


This too.
 
2012-11-17 10:13:41 AM  
Comcast is throttling the hell out of people instead of disconnecting them.

They have a program running on their server which temporarily disconnects the top users for 5-minutes or so...

Has anyone else noticed this?
 
2012-11-17 10:41:58 AM  
They may not take away their internet, but they sure as hell are chipping away at all the file-sharing avenues. As of November 15th, Charter shut down their Usenet access.

/DAMMIT, WHICH ONE OF YOU ASSHOLES TALKED?!
 
2012-11-17 12:07:35 PM  

BizarreMan: Tenebreux: 'Piracy' only exists where the content provider is able but unwilling to provide their product at a price that a consumer is willing to pay.

In a format the consumer wants to buy.


That's cheaper and easier than piracy.

There's a deep rabbit hole of justifications. Piracy will never go away. Content providers can eliminate some piracy at a cost, but at some point, they just have to recognize that piracy isn't going away and it's worth tolerating some piracy to preserve their other revenue.
 
2012-11-17 12:14:06 PM  

PainInTheASP: They may not take away their internet, but they sure as hell are chipping away at all the file-sharing avenues. As of November 15th, Charter shut down their Usenet access.

/DAMMIT, WHICH ONE OF YOU ASSHOLES TALKED?!


Did they close their own, or access to all usenet providers? Comcast, Verizon, RCN all removed usenet access from their connection packages years ago. Count yourself lucky if you've had access to binaries through your ISP this long.

/pray that I have not said too much
 
2012-11-17 12:26:12 PM  

Tenebreux: 'Piracy' only exists where the content provider is able but unwilling to provide their product at a price that a consumer is willing to pay.


Which for some people is free. Worst excuse for piracy ever.

Green81: Comcast is throttling the hell out of people instead of disconnecting them.

They have a program running on their server which temporarily disconnects the top users for 5-minutes or so...

Has anyone else noticed this?


Nope - haven't noticed that at all and I hate Comcast. If there is anything bad to be said about Comcast I'll be the loudest whiniest asshole there is because I hate them that much. Then again I don't constantly torrent shiat so maybe I am not one of their "top users" (sounds better that being a bottom for Comcast though).

I cancelled their TV service earlier this year because they could not deliver. I had too many technicians out to my home to tell me things like "I've got the same problem at my place" or "everything looks good, it's working now".

Fark Comcast but I'm stuck with them or internet service. I can give up TV but not internet.
 
2012-11-17 12:35:52 PM  
This is excellent news. I was afraid I was going to have to waste the two or three minutes necessary to set up a VPN proxy to continue to download "Dexter."
 
2012-11-17 12:52:55 PM  

Chevello: PainInTheASP: They may not take away their internet, but they sure as hell are chipping away at all the file-sharing avenues. As of November 15th, Charter shut down their Usenet access.

/DAMMIT, WHICH ONE OF YOU ASSHOLES TALKED?!

Did they close their own, or access to all usenet providers? Comcast, Verizon, RCN all removed usenet access from their connection packages years ago. Count yourself lucky if you've had access to binaries through your ISP this long.

/pray that I have not said too much


All of them(pdf)...shiat, this is a pisser. Now I'm going to have to pay to regain access or I'll NEVER have access to such cinematic masterpieces as New Year's F*ck, Just Married F*ck, or the well-known epic classiclez1 and 2...oh wait, I forgot about the biggest porn site in the world. Google.

/Nevermind.
 
2012-11-18 08:24:08 AM  
*does scan*

60% of our clients would be affected?!

nevermind...
 
2012-11-19 12:45:00 AM  
Can't wait for the accused copyright infringers to file criminal complaints against their ISPs and the RIAA/MPAA for illegal wiretapping and criminal interference in interstate commerce, and then file the class action civil lawsuits - the class comprised of every last one of the ISP's customers.
 
2012-11-19 01:26:38 PM  

Tango_down: "Land said that if termination is taken "off the table it helps in a number of ways," including making the entire system "more valid under human rights law" and alleviating due process concerns.
"

Are they saying terminate like kill a mother farker? Kinda sounds like it.


No, there is a new communist/socialist movement that says "internet access" is a "basic human right". It was created with the intent of giving taxpayer subsidized internet to poor people in the ghetto, but is being hijacked in this case to prevent the stoppage of pirates.

Not bad.
 
2012-11-19 01:27:55 PM  

Green81: Comcast is throttling the hell out of people instead of disconnecting them.

They have a program running on their server which temporarily disconnects the top users for 5-minutes or so...

Has anyone else noticed this?


See, if they throttle people they can still collect the full money without providing any service.

If they terminate the pirates, then they get no money.
 
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