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(Mother Nature Network)   You could sit there wallowing in your own self-pity over the demise of Hostess treats. Or you could learn how to make Twinkies, Hostess Cupcakes, and Sno-Balls in your own kitchen   (mnn.com) divider line 10
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2012-11-17 10:43:13 AM
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Abox: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Forget the hedge fund managers who Bain'd the company, those line-workers have the audacity to demand enough money to make rent and keep their health insurance!


A job is worth what it's worth; it's not automatically worth the rent on the lease you decided to sign.  You can't just sign any lease and take any job and expect it all to work out. I know, some people think you should be able to do that and maybe some day you will, but I I'm pretty sure it will come at the expense of something I like.


Some piece of shiat hedge fund manager hollows out a company, loads it up with $700M in debt, pays himself a handsome fee for all his hard work, and leaves the hole to be filled by the line workers. But it's the line worker who is being irresponsible for expecting to not be stabbed in the back the very moment his boss feels he can get away with it? Where the fark is the boss's responsibility?

This, right here, is the self-hatred I was talking about. This country absolutely despises itself. It worships anyone who manages to screw the country over. It shifts the blame to the victims. It gleefully cuts its consumer base out at the knees, and then turns around and whinges about weak consumer confidence. It doesn't deserve to survive.
2012-11-17 04:28:30 PM
2 votes:
Or you can buy these:
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2012-11-17 11:40:47 AM
2 votes:

Abox: It's a tough world champ. Blaming the boss isn't going to put a flatscreen on your TV stand.


Why is the flat-screen TV the item that represents undeserved luxury for you corporate dick polishers? They cost a few hundred bucks.

And when the boss hollows out the company, loads it up with $700M in debt, and then skips town to leave the workers to clean up his mess, yeah I'm going to blame the boss. Not the guy trying to feed his family and keep his kids from dying of easily preventable illnesses.

But I'm sure if you just guzzle this guy's jizz for long enough, he'll reward your loyalty. Just keep it up.
2012-11-17 02:12:29 PM
1 votes:

cardex: Arcanum: special20: MemeSlave: I bought and ate a Hostess cupcake last night. It was disgusting. Beef fat? Titanium? The FIRST ingredient is sugar FFS. This whole thing seems like natural selection. Make a good product and don't make bad business decisions (looking your way, unions), and you stay in business.

Unions? No, how about when Hostess filed for bankruptcy, they immediately gave raises to their executive staff upward to 100%. We're talking wages beyond the total annual salary of dozens of line workers. ...but you can keep parroting that anti-union propaganda if it makes you feel better. I'm just saying you're looking at the wrong antagonist in this story.

That makes sense. Running a company in serious trouble usually requires much better executive compensation. It's riskier to careers and it's much harder work.

And it's a tiny sliver of money compared to what the union members were demanding.

The company was bankrupt and the investors put in a huge amount of money to bring the company back, and they wanted to make a profit. Profit was impossible due to the union demands, so now all the employees have lost their jobs in a bad economy to lose a job (thanks Obama!).

If they weren't happy with their pay they should have quit instead of costing their friends their jobs.

The company was doing fine was bought by a firm with the sole intention of selling off the parts to anther venture company owned by the same people without the pension debt. It is nothing more then a way for a few people to get very rich at the cost of 20k jobs

/has anyone started a lynch mob over this yet the venture capital group needs to die painfully


And yet the wack-jobs shoot up movie theaters and summer camps. Can the homicidal sociopaths not find corporate boardrooms when they decide to do the bidding of the voices in their heads? Seriously.
2012-11-17 11:05:16 AM
1 votes:

MemeSlave: How does someone have a RIGHT to a wage?


If you perform work for an employer under contract, you generally have a right to a wage. You might expect said wage to cover your basic living expenses if it's a full time job.

And if you're part of a union that works across multiple employers it is probably ill advised to set precedent by working at slave wages for one company just because their business model is no longer profitable.
2012-11-17 10:15:20 AM
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MemeSlave: whatsupchuck: The unions had already made big concessions in the bankruptcies dating back to 2004. They have every right to expect a living wage, and it's pretty obvious after years of failure that the hedge fund owners don't want to run the business anymore. Their only way out is to liquidate the brand.

How does someone have a RIGHT to a wage?


I think we had a civil war about it.
2012-11-17 09:46:19 AM
1 votes:

Icetech3: Unions have destroyed our country.. they are an out of control monster... unions and the EPA.... bye bye america....



Now THERE's the right wing derp!
2012-11-17 09:42:12 AM
1 votes:
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2012-11-17 09:26:21 AM
1 votes:

special20: MemeSlave: I bought and ate a Hostess cupcake last night. It was disgusting. Beef fat? Titanium? The FIRST ingredient is sugar FFS. This whole thing seems like natural selection. Make a good product and don't make bad business decisions (looking your way, unions), and you stay in business.

Unions? No, how about when Hostess filed for bankruptcy, they immediately gave raises to their executive staff upward to 100%. We're talking wages beyond the total annual salary of dozens of line workers. ...but you can keep parroting that anti-union propaganda if it makes you feel better. I'm just saying you're looking at the wrong antagonist in this story.


That makes sense. Running a company in serious trouble usually requires much better executive compensation. It's riskier to careers and it's much harder work.

And it's a tiny sliver of money compared to what the union members were demanding.

The company was bankrupt and the investors put in a huge amount of money to bring the company back, and they wanted to make a profit. Profit was impossible due to the union demands, so now all the employees have lost their jobs in a bad economy to lose a job (thanks Obama!).

If they weren't happy with their pay they should have quit instead of costing their friends their jobs.
2012-11-17 08:57:15 AM
1 votes:
I found super sized marshmellows at Wallmart.

I put one on a plate in the toaster oven and watch that sucker like a hawk. Swells up to the size of a softball with a flat bottom. Once it gets a bit toasty, I gently press the now softer top and add coconut and toast some more.

Better than snoballs.
 
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