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2012-11-17 02:37:29 PM
I unmuted my laptop speakers to listen to this, and I'm getting audio from some football game! There's no video playing anywhere. I don't know what's going on.
 
2012-11-17 03:10:59 PM

Sagus: Ok let see.. we have the affordable heath care, going to revenue neutral, actual cost are more then double the claimed cost.


Read the actual CBO report instead of just parroting someone's opinion of it:
CBO Report

From the Report:
The current estimate of the gross costs of the coverage provisions ($1,496 billion through 2021) is about $50 billion higher than last year's projection; however, the other budgetary effects of those provisions, which partially offset those gross costs, also have increased in CBO and JCT's estimates (to $413 billion), leading to the small decrease in the net 10-year tally. Over the 10-year period from 2012 through 2021, enactment of the coverage provisions of the ACA was projected last March to increase federal deficits by $1,131 billion, whereas the March 2012 estimate indicates that those provisions will increase deficits by $1,083 billion. The net cost was boosted by an additional $168 billion in estimated costs for Medicaid and CHIP and $8 billion less in estimated revenues from the excise tax on high-premium health insurance plans. But those increases were more than offset by a reduction of $97 billion in the projected costs for the tax credits and other subsidies for health insurance provided through the exchanges and related spending, a reduction of $20 billion in the projected costs for tax credits for small employers, and a reduction of $107 billion in deficits from the projected revenue effects of changes in taxable compensation and penalty payments and from other small changes in estimated spending.

Yeah, basically CBO now estimates the net effect is that Obamacare will result in a smaller deficit. Not exactly terrible news for the president, especially not compared to the Medicare part D give-away to prescription drug companies under Bush, given that the government wasn't allowed to negotiate prices.


The current Benghazi cover up. everyone knows it was a terrorist attack, While he claimed it was spontaneous riot caused by a video. How many spontaneous riots have rpgs handy.

Yes, it was a terrorist attack. The white house has said as much as well as saying it from the video. It wasn't a coverup as much as a lack of communication about what was going on and mixed messages being sent out. It was also something everyone is sick to death of hearing about, it was well covered in the media and thus not something "he got a pass on". Compare that to all the attacks on our embassies that happened under Bush. Quick, can you name them all? I can't, because they weren't covered in the press, Bush got a pass on them all. But here they are none the less:

June 14, 2002, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
Suicide bomber kills 12 and injures 51.

February 20, 2003, international diplomatic compound in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
Truck bomb kills 17.

February 28, 2003, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
Gunmen on motorcycles killed two consulate guards.

July 30, 2004, U.S. embassy in Taskkent, Uzbekistan
Suicide bomber kills two.

December 6, 2004, U.S. consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
Militants stormed and occupied perimeter wall. Five killed, 10 wounded.

March 2, 2006, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
Suicide car bomber killed four, including a U.S. diplomate directly targeted by the assailants.

September 12, 2006, U.S. embassy in Damascus, Syria
Gunmen attacked embassy with grenades, automatic weapons, and a car bomb (though second truck bomb failed to detonate). One killed and 13 wounded.

January 12, 2007, U.S. embassy in Athens, Greece
A rocket-propelled grenade was fired at the embassy building. No one was injured.

July 9, 2008, U.S. consulate in Istanbul, Turkey
Armed men attacked consulate with pistols and shotguns. Three policemen killed.

March 18, 2008, U.S. embassy in Sana'a, Yemen
Mortar attack misses embassy, hits nearby girls' school instead.

September 17, 2008, U.S. embassy in Sana'a, Yemen
Militants dressed as policemen attacked the embassy with RPGs, rifles, grenades and car bombs. Six Yemeni soldiers and seven civilians were killed. Sixteen more were injured.


Then we have fast and furious weapons escapade.

That started under Bush in 2006. Like in the Benghazi incident, Obama isn't omniscient and doesn't everyone that is going in a vast government bureaucracy, nobody can. There are plenty of legitimate complaints to made against Obama, but you not only managed to bring up none of them, but brought up areas where Bush looks a lot worse in comparison.
 
2012-11-17 03:44:26 PM

usernameguy: I unmuted my laptop speakers to listen to this, and I'm getting audio from some football game! There's no video playing anywhere. I don't know what's going on.


Is your name George W Bush, by any chance?
 
2012-11-17 04:04:56 PM

darch: WORST. PRESIDENT. EVER.


James Buchanan wishes that was the case.
upload.wikimedia.org 

Warren G. Harding agrees.
 
2012-11-17 04:09:03 PM
Ugh. I wish I could have found that funny. It kind of is, I guess. But mostly the sound of his voice sets my teeth on edge.
 
2012-11-17 04:41:07 PM

Gwyrddu: Sagus: Ok let see.. we have the affordable heath care, going to revenue neutral, actual cost are more then double the claimed cost.

Read the actual CBO report instead of just parroting someone's opinion of it:
CBO Report

From the Report:
The current estimate of the gross costs of the coverage provisions ($1,496 billion through 2021) is about $50 billion higher than last year's projection; however, the other budgetary effects of those provisions, which partially offset those gross costs, also have increased in CBO and JCT's estimates (to $413 billion), leading to the small decrease in the net 10-year tally. Over the 10-year period from 2012 through 2021, enactment of the coverage provisions of the ACA was projected last March to increase federal deficits by $1,131 billion, whereas the March 2012 estimate indicates that those provisions will increase deficits by $1,083 billion. The net cost was boosted by an additional $168 billion in estimated costs for Medicaid and CHIP and $8 billion less in estimated revenues from the excise tax on high-premium health insurance plans. But those increases were more than offset by a reduction of $97 billion in the projected costs for the tax credits and other subsidies for health insurance provided through the exchanges and related spending, a reduction of $20 billion in the projected costs for tax credits for small employers, and a reduction of $107 billion in deficits from the projected revenue effects of changes in taxable compensation and penalty payments and from other small changes in estimated spending.

Yeah, basically CBO now estimates the net effect is that Obamacare will result in a smaller deficit. Not exactly terrible news for the president, especially not compared to the Medicare part D give-away to prescription drug companies under Bush, given that the government wasn't allowed to negotiate prices.


The current Benghazi cover up. everyone knows it was a terrorist attack, While he claimed it was spontaneous riot cau ...


As for Wide receiver the Mexican goverment was in on tracking them, they were tracked with a gps device and was ended in 2007 after they discovered the tracking system. So no F&F was not started under Bush
 
2012-11-17 05:22:35 PM
Speaking as a lifelong Republican I have no idea who this guy is. Never heard of him.
 
2012-11-17 05:38:30 PM

Sagus: As for Wide receiver the Mexican goverment was in on tracking them, they were tracked with a gps device and was ended in 2007 after they discovered the tracking system. So no F&F was not started under Bush


Technically you are correct, the best type of correct. Fast and Furious was just one of many gun-walking operations that still has nothing to do with Obama except to prove that he isn't an omniscient micro-manager of everything that goes on in the federal government. Unless you are suggesting that Obama is some sort of Sith lord?

Also, like Benghazi, the Fast and Furious scandal is pretty well known and not something that people just ignored, it just doesn't mean that Paul Ryan is automatically president and Obama becomes a rodeo clown.
 
2012-11-17 05:40:19 PM

Richard Roma: Speaking as a lifelong Republican I have no idea who this guy is. Never heard of him.


Amnesia does seem to be a common reaction among Republicans concerning George Bush.
 
2012-11-17 05:56:42 PM
I think George W. would have been a likeable guy if he hadn't have been a flaming liberal.
 
2012-11-17 06:36:59 PM

darch: This bufoon had his finger on the button for almost a DECADE. That KILLS me. He is responsible for more of the negative crap that's going on now than anyone else.

WORST. PRESIENT. EVER.


him, his dad, they should both be in prison. god damn shame.
 
2012-11-17 07:00:30 PM

kregh99: Let's all thank conservatives for putting a retard behind the wheel of the country for 8 years.


2012: Let's all thank liberals for putting a retard behind the wheel of the country for 8 years.

History repeating.
 
2012-11-17 07:15:29 PM

Fartiste: kregh99: Let's all thank conservatives for putting a retard behind the wheel of the country for 8 years.

2012: Let's all thank liberals for putting a retard behind the wheel of the country for 8 years.

History repeating.


Well, except for everything you've said, you are mostly right.
 
2012-11-17 08:33:53 PM

way south: Clinging to guns and religion?


What was wrong about that?
 
2012-11-17 08:55:24 PM
I have a friend at work, not born in America, who keeps asking me to explain the ways that I am proud to be American.

She can't understand why I refuse even to begin to discuss the subject.

*infinity facepalm*
 
2012-11-17 11:03:14 PM

Sagus: Ok people we get it. Obama can do no wrong, and nothing is his fault.


b- b- b- Obamaaaa
 
2012-11-17 11:12:15 PM
The greatest American president since St. Ronald!
 
2012-11-18 01:03:54 AM
ahhh Bush, missed the good times when we had good presidents.. now were stuck with whoever the blacks vote on.
 
2012-11-18 05:53:40 AM

Wayne 985: way south: Clinging to guns and religion?

What was wrong about that?


It was patronizing to rural communities in a similar way to how "47 percent" was to urbanites.
But it turned out ok because flyover country doesn't command the number of electorals that the coastal states do.
 
2012-11-18 10:53:00 AM

way south: Wayne 985: way south: Clinging to guns and religion?

What was wrong about that?

It was patronizing to rural communities in a similar way to how "47 percent" was to urbanites.
But it turned out ok because flyover country doesn't command the number of electorals that the coastal states do.


Romney's 47% comment wasn't patronizing, it was complete bullshiat. Obama's guns and religion comment...well, let's read it, shall we?

It's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

Now, pay special attention to anti-Obama people's reactions to Obama's re-election. It runs the gamut from "I can't believe they re-elected that ni**er" to "Someone should assassinate him" to "Now he's going to sell us to China" to "God has turned away from us." Not only was Obama's quote not patronizing, it was entirely accurate.
 
2012-11-18 11:50:52 AM

way south: It was patronizing to rural communities in a similar way to how "47 percent" was to urbanites.
But it turned out ok because flyover country doesn't command the number of electorals that the coastal states do.


Regardless of whether it was needed, Obama gained some flyover country in the elections anyway.

It turned out OK both because the people who would be insulted by the guns and religion remark weren't going to vote for Obama anyway, and secondly, because gaffs by themselves don't usually budge the polls.
 
2012-11-18 05:54:09 PM
Not sure if serious, saying of the idiocy and foolishness of Bush is the same with Obama.

Wow, just wow. I think putting a sentence together is a minimum standard for leader of the free world. There was no one more simpleminded, disinterested nor incompetent than Bush.


Not. Even. Close.
 
2012-11-18 06:23:40 PM
wichitaleaf: Bush - 4.9% unemployment rate
Obama - 7.9%
Gas prices Bush - 1.79
Obama - 3.79


You know you suck when you suck twice as bad as Dubya(who did infact suck)

About the only past POTUS I MIGHT vote for Obama over in a hypothetical is Herbert Hoover.
 
2012-11-18 07:19:47 PM

physt: wichitaleaf: Bush - 4.9% unemployment rate
Obama - 7.9%
Gas prices Bush - 1.79
Obama - 3.79


Pirates Bush - 0
Obama - 3

Osama Bin Laden - Bush - 0
Obama - 1

War with wrong country - Bush - 1
Obama - 0

Needless was - Bush - 1
Obama - 0

Highest Peak Oil Price - Bush - 1
Obama - 0


HUH?
 
2012-11-18 08:53:08 PM

Oldiron_79: wichitaleaf: Bush - 4.9% unemployment rate
Obama - 7.9%
Gas prices Bush - 1.79
Obama - 3.79

You know you suck when you suck twice as bad as Dubya(who did infact suck)

About the only past POTUS I MIGHT vote for Obama over in a hypothetical is Herbert Hoover.


You know you suck when bullshiat GOP talking points are enough to make you decide who to vote for. Here, this is for you:
blogs.thetimes-tribune.com
 
2012-11-19 12:23:45 AM
I don't.
 
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