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(io9)   Shortly after the Second World War, the Soviet Union constructed a massive industrial city-complex in the Caspian Sea. It'll be only a matter of time before the sea completely consumes it   (io9.com) divider line 33
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2012-11-17 06:58:16 AM  
Russia is always hurting for some cash. I wonder if they can turn it into a tourist trap
 
2012-11-17 09:52:14 AM  
As someone who does underwater structural inspections, that is both awesome and pause for a shudder.

Can't believe I've never heard of it before now.
 
2012-11-17 09:56:28 AM  

cman: Russia is always hurting for some cash. I wonder if they can turn it into a tourist trap


Why not. The Ukraine has turned another USSR ecological disaster into an apocalyptic theme park.
 
2012-11-17 10:24:50 AM  
Tubular.
 
2012-11-17 10:43:36 AM  
Gotta give credit where credit is due.

In that era, the Soviets did NOT fark around. When they built something, they BUILT that farker on a massive "Because fark you, that's why!" scale.
 
2012-11-17 11:01:54 AM  
Typical Communist waste of resources. They built cities in unviable locations and have to import everything just to access one resource. They built cities in the Actic Circle to mine coal, importing every mouhful of food and everything else. The smart thing to do in this case would have been to build oil platforms and pump the oil through pipes to the shore. Have either a refinery on shore or a transfer station to pump it elsewhere where a refinery and necessary population center is viable.
 
2012-11-17 11:24:30 AM  

LargeCanine: Typical Communist waste of resources. They built cities in unviable locations and have to import everything just to access one resource. They built cities in the Actic Circle to mine coal, importing every mouhful of food and everything else. The smart thing to do in this case would have been to build oil platforms and pump the oil through pipes to the shore. Have either a refinery on shore or a transfer station to pump it elsewhere where a refinery and necessary population center is viable.


Have you been to Alaska?
Ever wonder why we are storing millions of unproductive old people in Arizona which it is essentially wasteland?
 
2012-11-17 11:25:42 AM  
Sounds like a good Fallout 4 location. Always wondered how the Chinese and Russians got along once the war got going.
 
2012-11-17 11:54:02 AM  
Appears to be here, but no google earth images:(
40°13'52.12"N 50°51'53.26"E
 
2012-11-17 11:57:07 AM  

madgonad: LargeCanine: Typical Communist waste of resources. They built cities in unviable locations and have to import everything just to access one resource. They built cities in the Actic Circle to mine coal, importing every mouhful of food and everything else. The smart thing to do in this case would have been to build oil platforms and pump the oil through pipes to the shore. Have either a refinery on shore or a transfer station to pump it elsewhere where a refinery and necessary population center is viable.

Have you been to Alaska?
Ever wonder why we are storing millions of unproductive old people in Arizona which it is essentially wasteland?


Not the same thing at all.
 
2012-11-17 11:58:55 AM  

Nuclear Monk: Appears to be here, but no google earth images:(
40°13'52.12"N 50°51'53.26"E


Hmm. Wonder why.
 
2012-11-17 12:21:24 PM  

LargeCanine: Typical Communist waste of resources. They built cities in unviable locations and have to import everything just to access one resource. They built cities in the Actic Circle to mine coal, importing every mouhful of food and everything else. The smart thing to do in this case would have been to build oil platforms and pump the oil through pipes to the shore. Have either a refinery on shore or a transfer station to pump it elsewhere where a refinery and necessary population center is viable.


Political persuasion does not dictate human wastefulness. Communists aren't wasteful. People are.
 
2012-11-17 12:44:12 PM  
So after WW2 the soviets built an unsustainable floating city while we built unsustainable suburbs? Glad to see we weren't the only ones being stupid with our post-war resources.
 
2012-11-17 12:47:57 PM  

LargeCanine: madgonad: LargeCanine: Typical Communist waste of resources. They built cities in unviable locations and have to import everything just to access one resource. They built cities in the Actic Circle to mine coal, importing every mouhful of food and everything else. The smart thing to do in this case would have been to build oil platforms and pump the oil through pipes to the shore. Have either a refinery on shore or a transfer station to pump it elsewhere where a refinery and necessary population center is viable.

Have you been to Alaska?
Ever wonder why we are storing millions of unproductive old people in Arizona which it is essentially wasteland?

Not the same thing at all.


Yes, in the case of Arizona ours is actually worse. Russia built facilities in remote locations to support the labor required to extract the resource. The cost of having to bring everything in was more than offset by the value of resources being extracted.

In Arizona we have stuck a bunch of old people in a place where nothing except solar energy is produced. Even the water has to be piped in. And this is millions of people in Phoenix and Tucson - not a couple thousand in the North Slope of Alaska or this Caspian Sea oilfield.
 
2012-11-17 12:52:22 PM  

germ78: So after WW2 the soviets built an unsustainable floating city while we built unsustainable suburbs? Glad to see we weren't the only ones being stupid with our post-war resources.


Eh, I'd say American suburbs are doing decently in the towns that push forward. It's places that never had a post-game plan (read: Detroit) that have unsustainable suburbs.
 
2012-11-17 01:51:15 PM  

xaks: Gotta give credit where credit is due.

In that era, the Soviets did NOT fark around. When they built something, they BUILT that farker on a massive "Because fark you, that's why!" scale.


Why give them credit for it? This is an example of building something because you can, and with no thought of sustainability.
 
2012-11-17 01:56:32 PM  
Does everyone/everything have superpowers??

img.weburbanist.com
 
2012-11-17 02:32:00 PM  
What the sea swallows, she also throws up, viz Vozrozhdeniya Island

What was an island is no longer. Which wouldn't be a problem except for the bio-weapons lab that used to be harder to get to. 

"Located in the central Aral Sea, Vozrozhdeniya Island was one of the main laboratories and testing sites for the Soviet Union's Microbiological Warfare Group. In 1948, a top-secret Soviet bioweapons laboratory was established here, which tested a variety of agents, including anthrax, smallpox, plague, brucellosis, and tularemia.[3] In 1971, a release of weaponized smallpox from the island sickened ten people, of whom 3 died."
 
2012-11-17 02:33:10 PM  
The ZooRoaster?!? Has People eating Tasty Animals been informed?
 
2012-11-17 02:58:11 PM  

Nuclear Monk: Appears to be here, but no google earth images:(
40°13'52.12"N 50°51'53.26"E


From the original article at Spiegel Online: "Dismantling Neft Dashlari properly would probably be more expensive than simply keeping it going with a scaled-down oil production. To the government, the place is still the proud, closely-guarded secret it was in Soviet times. It is still very hard for foreigners to gain access to the city, which isn't even shown on Google Maps."

Original pics from original article, deslidified.

To say that the USSR didn't fark around when it came to overengineering environmental apocalypses is, like all statements about the USSR and overengineered environmental apocalypses, an understatement. But damned if it isn't awesome to look at.
 
2012-11-17 03:09:30 PM  

ongbok: Why give them credit for it? This is an example of building something because you can, and with no thought of sustainability.


"But after ... the discovery of cheaper oil elsewhere, Neft Dashlari began to wane".

It was economically sustainable when they built it. The economics changed.
 
2012-11-17 03:23:14 PM  
Yesterday:
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Today:
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Tomorrow:
zeemovies.ro 

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2012-11-17 04:03:11 PM  
This would make an awesome week-long paintball tourney.
 
2012-11-17 04:46:58 PM  

madgonad: LargeCanine: madgonad: LargeCanine: Typical Communist waste of resources. They built cities in unviable locations and have to import everything just to access one resource. They built cities in the Actic Circle to mine coal, importing every mouhful of food and everything else. The smart thing to do in this case would have been to build oil platforms and pump the oil through pipes to the shore. Have either a refinery on shore or a transfer station to pump it elsewhere where a refinery and necessary population center is viable.

Have you been to Alaska?
Ever wonder why we are storing millions of unproductive old people in Arizona which it is essentially wasteland?

Not the same thing at all.

Yes, in the case of Arizona ours is actually worse. Russia built facilities in remote locations to support the labor required to extract the resource. The cost of having to bring everything in was more than offset by the value of resources being extracted.

In Arizona we have stuck a bunch of old people in a place where nothing except solar energy is produced. Even the water has to be piped in. And this is millions of people in Phoenix and Tucson - not a couple thousand in the North Slope of Alaska or this Caspian Sea oilfield.


you clearly have 0 understanding of how to make any sort of point. but just in hopes of helping you out a bit, a better analogy would be a military base; which is a communist city built in the middle of nowhere just to have people there and make them better at being in the military. the only resource it extracts "heroes" and costs a ton of money.
 
2012-11-17 06:16:12 PM  
Under the same body of water, there lies the largest amount of oil found in the last 30 years.
 
2012-11-17 06:18:14 PM  

wingnut396: Sounds like a good Fallout 4 location. Always wondered how the Chinese and Russians got along once the war got going.


Ever play Metro 2033?

Like that, only with rayguns.
 
2012-11-17 06:29:11 PM  

cman: Russia is always hurting for some cash. I wonder if they can turn it into a tourist trap


It's not in Russia.
 
2012-11-17 09:45:26 PM  

Twilight Farkle: Nuclear Monk: Appears to be here, but no google earth images:(
40°13'52.12"N 50°51'53.26"E

From the original article at Spiegel Online: "Dismantling Neft Dashlari properly would probably be more expensive than simply keeping it going with a scaled-down oil production. To the government, the place is still the proud, closely-guarded secret it was in Soviet times. It is still very hard for foreigners to gain access to the city, which isn't even shown on Google Maps."

Original pics from original article, deslidified.

To say that the USSR didn't fark around when it came to overengineering environmental apocalypses is, like all statements about the USSR and overengineered environmental apocalypses, an understatement. But damned if it isn't awesome to look at.


I hadn't noticed the statement in the article mentioning no google earth when I went looking for it. There are a couple other causeway systems linking oil platforms south of their, but none of them are anything as...chaotic...as this system. They were all laid out in fairly orderly grids.
 
2012-11-17 10:34:56 PM  
Once the oil is gone, I wonder if it could be converted to an artificial reef? Would it be too toxic? Could living organisms be coaxed to anchor to, grow on, and take it over so that it became a sea nursery?
 
2012-11-18 07:18:50 AM  

Lunaville: Once the oil is gone, I wonder if it could be converted to an artificial reef? Would it be too toxic? Could living organisms be coaxed to anchor to, grow on, and take it over so that it became a sea nursery?


I don't think there are corals in the Caspian Sea. It's basically a big lake.
 
2012-11-19 06:14:23 AM  
lh6.ggpht.com

So, basically, this happened?
 
2012-11-19 12:25:18 PM  
The wonders of glorious governmental central planning never cease to amazecrumble
 
2012-11-20 04:19:25 PM  

Maul555: The wonders of glorious governmental central planning never cease to amazecrumble


But if only we could get the RIGHT smart people, we could make the politics of failure work again! *note:ever since the notion of the Philosopher King, this rarely works.
 
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