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2012-11-17 12:02:43 AM
As if you cannot have both.

i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-17 12:18:48 AM
I am sorry for going a bit off topic, but would J. R. R. Tolkien, the author of the great book, be considered a "bigot" today for his views on the English language?

/BTW dont fark with a classic directing bastards
 
2012-11-17 01:40:02 AM
It's what I am afraid off, due to to the previews. The Hobbit was a whimsical tale, not comedy. Guillermo del Toro would have had the right light touch, instead of Jacksons Ham-fisted direction. It was perfect for LOTR, which was a big blunt epic.

Still, I will be entertained and only wince at the raping of the story.

cman: I am sorry for going a bit off topic, but would J. R. R. Tolkien, the author of the great book, be considered a "bigot" today for his views on the English language?

/BTW dont fark with a classic directing bastards


Could you actually expand on this?
 
2012-11-17 01:46:35 AM

Darth_Lukecash: It's what I am afraid off, due to to the previews. The Hobbit was a whimsical tale, not comedy. Guillermo del Toro would have had the right light touch, instead of Jacksons Ham-fisted direction. It was perfect for LOTR, which was a big blunt epic.

Still, I will be entertained and only wince at the raping of the story.

cman: I am sorry for going a bit off topic, but would J. R. R. Tolkien, the author of the great book, be considered a "bigot" today for his views on the English language?

/BTW dont fark with a classic directing bastards

Could you actually expand on this?


I disagree. I think Jackson had the wrong tone for LOTR. The movies are action movies brimming with Serious, Very Very Very Serious Epic Pronouncement dialog. I've had enough of that. The books have some action, but there's also a lot of drinking, smoking and partying. If the Hobbit can put some of the fun in, it'll be better for it.
 
2012-11-17 04:53:44 AM
Does this mean that Galadriel will moon the Necromancer?
/I'll be in my flet.
 
2012-11-17 04:55:31 AM
If the Necromancer, aka Sauron, is depicted as a floating eyeball, I'm walking out.
 
2012-11-17 05:21:52 AM

B.L.Z. Bub: If the Necromancer, aka Sauron, is depicted as a floating eyeball, I'm walking out.


No worries... I believe he is being depicted as...
thehobbitfilms.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-11-17 05:35:17 AM
One of the parts of LOTR that annoyed me the most was that Gimli was portrayed as a buffoon. I'd hated to see the entire dwarven race (species?) portrayed that way.
 
2012-11-17 05:50:33 AM

EvilEgg: One of the parts of LOTR that annoyed me the most was that Gimli was portrayed as a buffoon. I'd hated to see the entire dwarven race (species?) portrayed that way.


I didn't see him as a buffoon. he came across to me as a short Worf, who spoke a little more. I didn't read the books, so I can't compare the two versions though
 
2012-11-17 05:51:57 AM
Because what's funnier than a 145-page dissertation on runes?
 
2012-11-17 06:16:44 AM
Is MacKellen a Tolkien fan though? He may just be confusing the stories more childlike sense of adventure (you know, what with it being a children's story and all) for comedy.

My guess? The trilogy will start out fairly light, and get progressively darker as it approaches the third film.
 
2012-11-17 06:24:15 AM

Old enough to know better: Is MacKellen a Tolkien fan though? He may just be confusing the stories more childlike sense of adventure (you know, what with it being a children's story and all) for comedy.

My guess? The trilogy will start out fairly light, and get progressively darker as it approaches the third film.


Should be like that. The encounter with the Three Trolls is pretty whimsical, and they shouldn't get dark until their capture by goblins in the Misty Mountains.
 
2012-11-17 06:53:14 AM

cman: I am sorry for going a bit off topic, but would J. R. R. Tolkien, the author of the great book, be considered a "bigot" today for his views on the English language?

/BTW dont fark with a classic directing bastards


In response to a query from a German publisher negotiating to publish The Hobbit, Tolkien wrote:

25 July 1938
20 Northmoor Road, Oxford

Dear Sirs,

Thank you for your letter. I regret that I am not clear as to what you intend by arisch. I am not of Aryan extraction: that is Indo-Iranian; as far as I am aware none of my ancestors spoke Hindustani, Persian, Gypsy, or any related dialects. But if I am to understand that you are enquiring whether I am of Jewish origin, I can only reply that I regret that I appear to have no ancestors of that gifted people. My great-great-grandfather came to England in the eighteenth century from Germany: the main part of my descent is therefore purely English, and I am an English subject - which should be sufficient. I have been accustomed, nonetheless, to regard my German name with pride, and continued to do so throughout the period of the late regrettable war, in which I served in the English army. I cannot, however, forbear to comment that if impertinent and irrelevant inquiries of this sort are to become the rule in matters of literature, then the time is not far distant when a German name will no longer be a source of pride.

Your enquiry is doubtless made in order to comply with the laws of your own country, but that this should be held to apply to the subjects of another state would be improper, even if it had (as it has not) any bearing whatsoever on the merits of my work or its sustainability for publication, of which you appear to have satisfied yourselves without reference to my Abstammung.

I trust you will find this reply satisfactory, and

remain yours faithfully,

J. R. R. Tolkien
 
2012-11-17 07:06:12 AM

log_jammin: EvilEgg: One of the parts of LOTR that annoyed me the most was that Gimli was portrayed as a buffoon. I'd hated to see the entire dwarven race (species?) portrayed that way.

I didn't see him as a buffoon. he came across to me as a short Worf, who spoke a little more. I didn't read the books, so I can't compare the two versions though


He falls off of stuff, gets constantly outclassed by Legolas, is a messy eater, etc. I predict 12 goofy dwarves in this flick and one serious Thorin.
 
2012-11-17 07:19:54 AM
I'm not happy with the idea of this being more of a comedy, but at least it's true to the book. It was supposed to be the story as written by Bilbo after the fact, not necessarily how it all actually happened. Hopefully when it deals with the extra stuff added from the appendices the tone will change. I want to see the siege of Dol Guldur as a comedy.
 
2012-11-17 07:35:48 AM
Can I expect to see Jar Jar Baggins now?
 
2012-11-17 07:39:20 AM

ingineervt: Can I expect to see Jar Jar Baggins now?


Please no.

Bilbo Baggins is a very respectable gentlehobbit, from a good family. Nothing ever happens to them, until..
 
2012-11-17 08:10:26 AM
Hey look, I was just thinking that if we going for an element of comedy...why not throw in some racism like Lucas did while we're at it. I don't remember any afro-Middleearthian Dwarfs in the LOTR. It's a win-win, really.
 
2012-11-17 08:22:40 AM

log_jammin: EvilEgg: One of the parts of LOTR that annoyed me the most was that Gimli was portrayed as a buffoon. I'd hated to see the entire dwarven race (species?) portrayed that way.

I didn't see him as a buffoon. he came across to me as a short Worf, who spoke a little more. I didn't read the books, so I can't compare the two versions though


I don't think Gimli was portrayed as a buffoon in either the novel or the movie. He was perceived as a buffoon by the elves and completely misunderstood by the humans. I think the elves sum up their perspective on Gimli nicely when they capture the team as the walk through the woods, pointing out that Gimli sounded like a tank.
 
2012-11-17 08:42:04 AM
Not much article there, but the slideshow is really very good, as slideshows go.
 
2012-11-17 09:40:41 AM

EvilEgg: One of the parts of LOTR that annoyed me the most was that Gimli was portrayed as a buffoon. I'd hated to see the entire dwarven race (species?) portrayed that way.


The only way this movie works? Two words: laugh track.

Don Guildor? I hardly know her! *hahahahhaha*

And I agree completely. A dwarf suggesting that Aragon break his contract with the dead? A dwarf suggesting that they not attack Sauron in Mordor when he was weak? Hey, we need a funny line or some expository dialog, give it to the dwarf, because the elf already used a shield to surf.
 
2012-11-17 09:52:49 AM

LonMead: B.L.Z. Bub: If the Necromancer, aka Sauron, is depicted as a floating eyeball, I'm walking out.

No worries... I believe he is being depicted as...
[thehobbitfilms.files.wordpress.com image 669x1000]


Aw shiat, it's the Shrike!
 
2012-11-17 10:02:53 AM
Great, more dwarf fart jokes.

Fark you Peter Jackson, fark you, ya greedy soulless hack. I am not going to see any of the Hobbit movies. And I'm never going to new Zealand either. I hate all of you Kiwis.

\clutches vinyl album of the 80's Hobbit soundtrack to chest and cries soundlessly
\\only half-joking
 
2012-11-17 10:05:45 AM
And my Acts!
Seriously, I'll be here all week. Try the Lembas pudding.
 
2012-11-17 10:11:38 AM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: log_jammin: EvilEgg: One of the parts of LOTR that annoyed me the most was that Gimli was portrayed as a buffoon. I'd hated to see the entire dwarven race (species?) portrayed that way.

I didn't see him as a buffoon. he came across to me as a short Worf, who spoke a little more. I didn't read the books, so I can't compare the two versions though

I don't think Gimli was portrayed as a buffoon in either the novel or the movie. He was perceived as a buffoon by the elves and completely misunderstood by the humans. I think the elves sum up their perspective on Gimli nicely when they capture the team as the walk through the woods, pointing out that Gimli sounded like a tank.


Gimli in the book was more serious, but I didn't get the feeling the character was mocked in Jackson's movies (especially the extended editions). The dwarves in The Hobbit book really do not come off very well at all. They send Mr. Baggins ahead to do the dangerous work at nearly every turn, and they only become bold when near starvation or when pushed to share their treasure.

If you didn't like the way one dwarf was treated in a serious epic, you will cringe at how 13 are portrayed in a whimsical children's tale.
 
2012-11-17 10:34:37 AM
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves Ayn Rand.
 
2012-11-17 11:02:07 AM
log_jammin [TotalFark]


EvilEgg: One of the parts of LOTR that annoyed me the most was that Gimli was portrayed as a buffoon. I'd hated to see the entire dwarven race (species?) portrayed that way.

I didn't see him as a buffoon. he came across to me as a short Worf,

Hate to break it to you.... but wof is a buffoon.
 
2012-11-17 11:21:56 AM
Look, is it any mystery why the dwarves are portrayed the way they are? They're fantasy's stand-in race for Scotsmen, and the English see Scotsmen as bloviating, half-mad buffoons or inept folk with odd habits.

Elves are the Swedes/Asians.
Dwarves are the Scots.
Humans are the English middle-class.
Hobbits are the English lower-class.
Orcs are Germans & Turks.
 
2012-11-17 11:23:24 AM

ZeroCorpse: Look, is it any mystery why the dwarves are portrayed the way they are? They're fantasy's stand-in race for Scotsmen, and the English see Scotsmen as bloviating, half-mad buffoons or inept folk with odd habits.

Elves are the Swedes/Asians.
Dwarves are the Scots.
Humans are the English middle-class.
Hobbits are the English lower-class.
Orcs are Germans & Turks.


The horsey dudes' style looked pretty Swedish to me.
 
2012-11-17 11:34:22 AM
"sir ian, sir ian, sir ian, sir ian, sir ian.... YOU SHALL NOT PASS! sir ian, sir ian, sir ian, sir ian.
 
2012-11-17 12:05:42 PM

ZeroCorpse: Dwarves are the Scots.


The Dwarves were actually based on the Jews.
 
2012-11-17 12:58:54 PM
"I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done so since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presence. I much prefer history - true or feigned- with its varied applicability to the thought and experience of readers. I think that many confuse applicability with allegory, but the one resides in the freedom of the reader, and the other in the purposed domination of the author."


― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring
 
2012-11-17 01:21:04 PM

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves Ayn Rand.


There is more to comedy than "cut and replace".
 
2012-11-17 01:46:13 PM

Pentaxian: ZeroCorpse: Dwarves are the Scots.

The Dwarves were actually based on the Jews.


Oy vey!
 
2012-11-17 03:12:42 PM

Pentaxian: ZeroCorpse: Dwarves are the Scots.

The Dwarves were actually based on the Jews.


Dwarves are the Welsh. Seriously, alcoholic miners who drop into all male choral presentations at the drop of a hat?
 
2012-11-17 03:28:16 PM

EvilEgg: The horsey dudes' style looked pretty Swedish to me.


The Rohirrim were actually based upon Anglo-Saxony, and something of an imagination of what would have been had the Normans not successfully conquered England.
 
2012-11-17 03:34:26 PM
ftfa:

"I thought, 'Yes, I've a responsibility beyond my own pleasure'..."


Good on him if that's true. Nice to see that old school dedication still around. I don't think you'd hear those words from Channing Tatum.
 
2012-11-17 04:11:58 PM

ingineervt: Can I expect to see Jar Jar Baggins now?


As more and more details have been coming out, I've been concerned that it's going to be "The Hobbit: The Unexpected Phantom Menace."
 
2012-11-17 04:39:35 PM
Great that means more dwarf tossing joke.
 
2012-11-17 05:59:51 PM

SavageWombat: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves Ayn Rand.

There is more to comedy than "cut and replace".


God I hope not.

farkthread5349907

The All-Powerful Atheismo: tallguywithglasseson: The All-Powerful Atheismo: ...and Morgan Freeman as the voice of Smaug

I'd pay to see that.

Really?

Morgan Freeman as the voice of Smaug is at least as uninspired, unoriginal and horrible as anything else on that list.

uninspired maybe, unoriginal maybe, but that ignores the fact that he could make a damn good smaug. If so, who gives a shiat if it's an unoriginal choice. They might have to edit his voice digitally to sound less "freeman"ly, but it could be really awesome.

The first night's the toughest, no doubt about it. They march you in naked as the day you were born, without even a pocket handkerchief, and when they put you in that goblin cave... and you tumble into a crevasse as you scream for dwarves... that's when you know it's for real. A whole life blown away in the blink of an eye. Nothing left but all the time in the world to think about it. And a riddle-contest.


I'd like to say that Bilbo fought the good fight, and the goblins left him alone. But Middle-Earth ain't no fairy tale world.

In TA1601 Bilbo escaped from the wood elves prison. All they found of him was a muddy cloak, a bar of soap, and and some smutty pictures of naked Beorn. I remember thinking it would take a man six hundred years to escape with all the dwarves. Old Bilbo managed it in less than a year. Oh, Bilbo loved maps. I imagine it appealed to his meticulous nature. A moon-letter here, a rune there. Geography is the study of people and places. That's all it takes really, people, and places. That, and a big goddamn magic ring. Like I said, in prison a man will do most anything to keep his mind occupied. Turns out Bilbo's favorite hobby was stealing elvish wine, a mouthful at a time. I guess after the Necromancer was defeated, Bilbo decided he'd been here just about long enough. Biblo did like he was told, trimmed his toe hairs. The guards simply didn't notice. Neither did I... I mean, seriously, how often do you really look at a hobbit's feet? Bilbo crawled to freedom through five hundred yards of shiat smelling foulness I can't even imagine, or maybe I just don't want to. Five hundred yards... that's the length of five football fields, just shy of half a mile.


I'd like to think the last thing that went through Smaug's heart, other than Black Arrow, was how Bilbo Baggins ever got the best of him.
 
2012-11-17 06:09:29 PM
Are there any hot chicks in this one?
 
2012-11-17 07:39:45 PM

just passing through: Are there any hot chicks in this one?


This gal is playing an elf:

www.perfectpeople.net 

So is this one:

lh4.ggpht.com
 
2012-11-17 08:34:56 PM
I thought the LOTR movies sucked, so I really don't care what this turns out to be. Just happy Jackson is doing three of them. Gives him less time to screw up another classic like he did with King Kong.
 
2012-11-17 11:12:20 PM
43 posts and no Randall?

media.tumblr.com
 
2012-11-18 01:29:13 AM

OnlyM3: log_jammin [TotalFark]


EvilEgg: One of the parts of LOTR that annoyed me the most was that Gimli was portrayed as a buffoon. I'd hated to see the entire dwarven race (species?) portrayed that way.

I didn't see him as a buffoon. he came across to me as a short Worf,
Hate to break it to you.... but wof is a buffoon.


yeah ok.
 
2012-11-18 03:27:42 AM

John Buck 41: 43 posts and no Randall?

[media.tumblr.com image 500x281]


Kevin Smith will have to make another movie now that Disney is going to put out a new Star Wars
 
2012-11-18 03:37:20 AM

John Buck 41: 43 posts and no Randall?

[media.tumblr.com image 500x281]


Who?
 
2012-11-18 10:23:45 AM
log_jammin
>>> OnlyM3: log_jammin [TotalFark]
>>> >>> EvilEgg: One of the parts of LOTR that annoyed me the most was that Gimli was portrayed as a buffoon.
>>> >>> I'd hated to see the entire dwarven race (species?) portrayed that way.
>>> >>> I didn't see him as a buffoon. he came across to me as a short Worf,
>>> Hate to break it to you.... but worf is a buffoon.

yeah ok.

Here you are:
buf·foon (b-fn) n.
1. A clown; a jester: a court buffoon.
2. A person given to clowning and joking.
3. A ludicrous or bumbling person; a fool.


-- a$$ kicked by every alien that beamed onto the ship

--- Threatening the big screen TV with a phaser.

--- *quaking with fear* "Bats?"

--- 2.bp.blogspot.com



--- www.upl.co

--- "A ship has one bridge! ONE BRIDGE!! ONE RIKER!! ONE BRIDGE!!! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"

--- Warning the captain "my thoughts were of a gigantic black space creature that devours entire vessels" Picard rolls his eyes then in a patronizing/condescending tone " Will you just launch another probe" *and implied "stfu"*

--- Growling and showing his teeth at too many characters to list.

--- Trying to sneak up on and tackle/grab an Omniscient & omnipotent being
(1) how do you "sneak up on" one who knows all?
(2) what are you going to do once you have your hands on this omnipotent critter?

--- Almost w/o fail when he gives a recommendation / suggestion, he is denied (often accompanied by eye rolling) and the opposite path is chosen.


He was the bridge jester, fool, .... buffoon.
 
2012-11-18 10:27:45 AM

chuggernaught: whizbangthedirtfarmer: log_jammin: EvilEgg: One of the parts of LOTR that annoyed me the most was that Gimli was portrayed as a buffoon. I'd hated to see the entire dwarven race (species?) portrayed that way.

I didn't see him as a buffoon. he came across to me as a short Worf, who spoke a little more. I didn't read the books, so I can't compare the two versions though

I don't think Gimli was portrayed as a buffoon in either the novel or the movie. He was perceived as a buffoon by the elves and completely misunderstood by the humans. I think the elves sum up their perspective on Gimli nicely when they capture the team as the walk through the woods, pointing out that Gimli sounded like a tank.

Gimli in the book was more serious, but I didn't get the feeling the character was mocked in Jackson's movies (especially the extended editions). The dwarves in The Hobbit book really do not come off very well at all. They send Mr. Baggins ahead to do the dangerous work at nearly every turn, and they only become bold when near starvation or when pushed to share their treasure.

If you didn't like the way one dwarf was treated in a serious epic, you will cringe at how 13 are portrayed in a whimsical children's tale.


I have to say that I was perplexed by the portrayal of the dwarves in The Hobbit. I read LOTR first and was used to "serious but sometimes goofy" dwarves. I will say, in The Hobbit, though, Gandalf told the dwarves that it would be Bilbo who would be leading the way if the expedition were to succeed. So they sat back and didn't get involved all that much, trusting Gandalf's prophecy. In the end, the only real dwarves who seemed to be with it were Nori, Ori, and Thorin. The others were just the typical goofy dwarves.
 
2012-11-18 10:36:09 AM

OnlyM3: log_jammin
>>> OnlyM3: log_jammin [TotalFark]
>>> >>> EvilEgg: One of the parts of LOTR that annoyed me the most was that Gimli was portrayed as a buffoon.
>>> >>> I'd hated to see the entire dwarven race (species?) portrayed that way.
>>> >>> I didn't see him as a buffoon. he came across to me as a short Worf,
>>> Hate to break it to you.... but worf is a buffoon.

yeah ok.
Here you are:
buf·foon (b-fn) n.
1. A clown; a jester: a court buffoon.
2. A person given to clowning and joking.
3. A ludicrous or bumbling person; a fool.

-- a$$ kicked by every alien that beamed onto the ship

--- Threatening the big screen TV with a phaser.

--- *quaking with fear* "Bats?"

---



---

--- "A ship has one bridge! ONE BRIDGE!! ONE RIKER!! ONE BRIDGE!!! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"

--- Warning the captain "my thoughts were of a gigantic black space creature that devours entire vessels" Picard rolls his eyes then in a patronizing/condescending tone " Will you just launch another probe" *and implied "stfu"*

--- Growling and showing his teeth at too many characters to list.

--- Trying to sneak up on and tackle/grab an Omniscient & omnipotent being
(1) how do you "sneak up on" one who knows all?
(2) what are you going to do once you have your hands on this omnipotent critter?

--- Almost w/o fail when he gives a recommendation / suggestion, he is denied (often accompanied by eye rolling) and the opposite path is chosen.


He was the bridge jester, fool, .... buffoon.


Yeah, OK.
 
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