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(CNN) Video Live CNN discussion between an Israeli and a Palestinian. Israeli: They are intentionally targetting civilians, and we do not do that. Palestinian: "Well. I :BOOM:: BOOM: :BOOM: ++++ NO CARRIER +++"   (cnn.com) divider line 275
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2012-11-17 11:21:58 AM  
So, the ad that plays before the "actual bombs dropping on folks" video had "Flight of the Valkyries" as a soundtrack. Gotta say, I lol'd.
 
2012-11-17 12:03:29 PM  
fark it lets just get world war 3 done and over with
 
2012-11-17 01:22:03 PM  

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Gordon Bennett: PsiChick: Party Boy: PsiChick:

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...I need to run to the store.
 
2012-11-17 02:10:46 PM  

PsiChick: Bonzo_1116: PsiChick: Party Boy: PsiChick:

Peppermint Schnapps.

Gordon Bennett: PsiChick: Party Boy: PsiChick:

[www.torani.com image 350x519]

...I need to run to the store.


Yes you do. Torani, Monin and Da Vinci syrups are all quite nice, non alcoholic and made expressly to add flavour to drinks. Many choices including sugar-free variants.
 
2012-11-17 08:30:28 PM  
This...hurts.

i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-17 08:44:21 PM  
Good thing we did all our Manifest Destiny and mass genocide and subjugation of the native peoples of this country BEFORE they had rockets and shiat. That would be ugly.

/wish they'd just do a proper revolution and get it over with
//You either win, or you lose. Quit blowing up civilians that just want to live their lives without being constantly in terror.
 
2012-11-17 09:31:28 PM  
Jew here.
In general, Israel has been pretty shiatty towards Palestinians, what with the lack of representation in Parliament and Netanyahu being an all-around shiathead. But what does Hamas expect Israel to do when they're shooting missiles at their capital? If you want to get people to pay attention to your plight, instigating armed combat and storing your weapons in residential areas (which the Israelis will aim for) is NOT the way to do it. Why can't they be cool and suave like the French Resistance?

Here's the other problem: it's not Israelis' fault. Let me explain.
Israel has mandatory conscription. In any military, they train you to see the enemy as subhuman so you don't feel guilty about shooting at them. Arabs are the enemy, so the IDF teaches its soldiers to see Arabs as subhuman. This is why there is so much racism even among civilians: because most of them had been in the military (not all Israelis qualify for service, or they have a religious exemption). This causes a vicious cycle. Hamas handing out the known fake book Protocols of the Elders of Zion and Mein Kampf isn't really helping, either. Then there's the whole being easily offended by a farking youtube video.
 
2012-11-17 09:43:24 PM  

theknuckler_33: Blue_Blazer: theknuckler_33: To farking hell with the both of them. Palestinians sure as shiat target civilians because they fire rockets nilly-willy wherever they go. Israelis are assholes because if 3 Israelis are killed, they kill 1500 Palestinian 'militants'.

fark them both in the ass. Go to war, you are on your own. FOAD and EABOD.

Point of order here: the Palestinian rockets are hardly capable of being aimed. I will not speculate as to whether it would make a difference. Probably not, as neither side seems interested in avoiding civilian casualities.

That was the point, they don't have weapons sophisticated enough to aim precisely at military targets, they just fire off rockets towards the nearest towns/cities. And, frankly, I don't blame them.


I do. My sister goes to university in Tel Aviv. I wouldn't be so shocked if they aim for border patrol vehicles and army bases. Those are soldiers. They're risking their lives for their country. But when you aim specifically for civilians, that's bad.
The IDF was aiming for known weapon stores and known Hamas bases of operation. Hamas intentionally put this in heavily residential areas. If you set up a camp in the middle of a warzone, things like this happen. They call it "no-man's land" for a reason. There's a reason why army bases are typically at least a few miles away from residential settlements.
But I do think that Israel is overreacting. Then again, Hamas said that killing their leader is an "act of war".

The truth is that most Palestinians don't give a shiat about Israeli occupation, justice for the fallen, right of return or any of that. Most of them just want to live their lives in peace. But when even their own countrymen are fighting for leadership (it's basically a People's Front of Judea vs Judean People's Front situation), they'll never have that.

The IRA and ETA's goals are in the right too. That doesn't mean they're not terrorists.
 
2012-11-17 09:53:27 PM  
This land is mine. Suck it the rest of humanity.
 
2012-11-18 04:54:08 AM  

colithian: so the IDF teaches its soldiers to see Arabs as subhuman.


Israeli reserve soldier here, that is a load of bullcrap.
 
2012-11-18 12:38:48 PM  
TappingTheVein
Israeli reserve soldier here, that is a load of bullcrap.

You're an Israeli reserve soldier? In that case, what more evidence does colithian need?
 
2012-11-18 04:54:14 PM  

RanDomino: You're an Israeli reserve soldier? In that case, what more evidence does colithian need?


None, i just said that his post is bullcrap. And you should go do some reading about the israeli-palestinian conflict before you utter any more embarrassingly wrong crap.
 
2012-11-18 07:48:49 PM  

theknuckler_33: that was forced upon them unilaterally about 70 years ago with virtually no input on their part.


Except that they fought a few wars over it and lost every single one. This is how the world works, like it or not. I could show a similar map to the one posted in these threads, except of America, Russia, or China growing huge by progressively taking over more land from natives.

sleeps in trees: That is the crux. Blatant Mother farking Racism. Call it whatever you want same shiat different pile.


How can you not see the justification for it? All those suicide bombers killing people shopping or eating at cafes, blowing up entire buses, skyjackings galore and you don't see how that forced the hand of the people being attacked. The jews weren't firing rockets at Berlin every night leading up to the holocaust, and the arabs in Palestine have tripled in population instead of being wiped out. I'm not jewish but I can see how Israel is much more civilized and justified in their actions than the arabs.
 
2012-11-19 12:41:07 PM  
TappingTheVein
None, i just said that his post is bullcrap. And you should go do some reading about the israeli-palestinian conflict before you utter any more embarrassingly wrong crap.

You just admitted to being an agent of the Israeli state, and you think your assertions carry any weight?
 
2012-11-19 12:57:21 PM  

RanDomino: ou just admitted to being an agent of the Israeli state, and you think your assertions carry any weight?


No, i said that i served as an israeli soldier and from personal experience we were never told to see Arabs as subhuman, it was actually the opposite. Choose to believe whatever you want, since you in any case have no farking clue about this conflict as evident over and over again, it doesn't matter.

On the other hand, the other side are taught before they can walk to regard jews as subhuman, spawns of satan or worse. But you'll probably ignore this like you ignore every evidence i present to you which places the muslims/palestinians in a negative light.
 
2012-11-19 02:25:39 PM  
It must be those crazy Joowz fault. WTF is wrong with them?

/They need to return the pyramids back to the Palestinians.
//King Osama can fix this. He needs to have some hamas and crackers with Pres Obama, His Holiness Cardinal Abass and Duchess Bibi.
 
2012-11-19 03:24:04 PM  
TappingTheVein
places the muslims/palestinians in a negative light.

This is your only real goal here.
 
2012-11-19 03:37:42 PM  

RanDomino: This is your only real goal here.


My goal in that post was actually to show how you ignore facts which you apparently don't like and elegantly skip acknowledging ignorant mistakes you tend to make when discussing the israeli-palestinian conflict so i thank you for your assistance.

But hey, if it helps you deal with your ignorance and detached from reality worldview, make up some more shiat about me. Should be entertaining.
 
2012-11-19 04:02:37 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-19 05:10:18 PM  

Zombalupagus: [i.imgur.com image 700x960]


So i guess you wouldn't mind a couple of thousands of these rockets falling on your house 4 times a day, never mind that they use Grad and Fajr missiles as well.
Also the israelis should step outside their bomb shelters and turn off the alarms and Iron Domes. You know, to even the ratio.
 
2012-11-19 05:24:32 PM  

The Great Gazoo: I don't think Israel is intentionally targeting civilians, but I don't think they really give a fark if they kill a few by accident.


Dont forget the Palestinians intentionally launch from areas where their are noncombatants. This either discourages Israel from firing back or if they do retaliate then they have bodies of the dead to show the international press.
 
2012-11-19 11:53:47 PM  

pdee: The Great Gazoo: I don't think Israel is intentionally targeting civilians, but I don't think they really give a fark if they kill a few by accident.

Dont forget the Palestinians intentionally launch from areas where their are noncombatants. This either discourages Israel from firing back or if they do retaliate then they have bodies of the dead to show the international press.


Of course using civilians as shields makes you a shiat-bag.. but it doesn't justify going 'oh okay then' and blowing the civilians to pieces now does it? If a criminal holds a kid hostage do the police riddle the pair of them with bullets?
 
2012-11-20 02:53:39 AM  

gaspode: If a criminal holds a kid hostage do the police riddle the pair of them with bullets?


No and that's why Israel is making huge efforts to minimize civilian casualties.
 
2012-11-20 04:17:08 AM  

TappingTheVein: gaspode: If a criminal holds a kid hostage do the police riddle the pair of them with bullets?

No and that's why Israel is making huge efforts to minimize civilian casualties.


Well if they are that would be a positive thing, but I am going to be frank and say I do not really believe that they are making more than token efforts. Sorry. I genuinely have nothing but disgust for the rocket-makers and violent murderers on the palestinian side, but It is hard to accept that quite so many civilian casualties are the result of an IDF that truly gives a shiat who it kills.
 
2012-11-20 04:22:18 AM  

gaspode: Well if they are that would be a positive thing, but I am going to be frank and say I do not really believe that they are making more than token efforts.


Look at the ratio between the number of attacks in the last 6 days and the number of civilian casualties.
 
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