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2012-11-16 08:54:16 PM
And also, Hamas members often hide and live, in heavily civilian populated areas so if they are targeted by Israel, how do you expect innocents not to be killed / wounded? It's not like there is a giant HAMAS HEADQUARTERS,..BOMB HERE skyscraper that Israel can target. Hamas hides and fights from residential areas, so civilian attrition is inescapable. The only way it's not going to happen, is if both sides stop shooting, which doesn't seem likely.
 
2012-11-16 08:54:38 PM
Wow... Palestinian guy keeps talking even while he's getting bombed. That's a man with some serious balls.
 
2012-11-16 08:54:50 PM

Party Boy: organizmx: Kanemano: [d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net image 480x397]

My friend Yousef (who was on MSNBC today talking about this) wrote a fantastic article about how difficult it is for him and his wife to travel back home, because he's technically an Israeli citizen, and she isn't. Its like two different planes they have to fly, two different airports, checkpoints, etc.

Please share.


Yousef's wife?
 
2012-11-16 08:55:31 PM

CygnusDarius: I think most of the Arab countries use Palestine for their own petty reasons. Which is sad, really.


This argument had a lot more traction before the Arab Spring. People started to recognize the massive disconnect between a dictator and the people. Its hard to imagine now, but it was an argument i heard with routine frequency here regarding Egypt before Mubarak fell.
 
2012-11-16 08:55:37 PM

Leo Bloom's Freakout: instead of losing the vast majority of your shots to the Iron Dome, why not storm a blockade site and launch hell on them there? Why not focus all of that firepower on a target that will engender less international sympathy for Isreal?


I would imagine it has something to do with the fact that even IF they were able to storm a blockade site... then what? If they had real serious military support from the outside, there would already be war. Syria and Lebanon are busy with their own problems (not to mention Egypt). I'd imagine Jordan isn't particular interested in getting involved in an all-out war... or anyone else for that matter.

Doing what you are suggesting would, necessarily, involve getting significant instant support from outside sources as opposed to slow, steady, smuggled (relatively) small arms. That just isn't going to happen especially considering the history of conflicts involving Israel, they would very likely kick everyone's asses unless the entire middle east coalesced and ganged up on them which would not ever happen (especially without massive international support for Israel coming very quickly via massive air strikes). They are between a rock and a hard place. Strategic goals are strictly political like someone earlier suggested. They basically WANT Israel to launch massive strikes that kill civilians and try to gain international sympathy to improve their bargaining position.
 
2012-11-16 08:55:59 PM
It is historical fact that towards the end of WWII, FDR looked into using Earth's moon as a place to resettle refugees. I wish they had done more.
 
2012-11-16 08:56:48 PM

Leo Bloom's Freakout: Party Boy: organizmx: Kanemano: [d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net image 480x397]

My friend Yousef (who was on MSNBC today talking about this) wrote a fantastic article about how difficult it is for him and his wife to travel back home, because he's technically an Israeli citizen, and she isn't. Its like two different planes they have to fly, two different airports, checkpoints, etc.

Please share.

Yousef's wife?


You better check Yousef before you wreck Yousef.
 
2012-11-16 08:57:47 PM

BolloxReader: And if I hadn't seen that Mythbusters episode I would call Israel the bull in the china shop at this moment.


I'm so glad I get that reference.

/good post, btw.
 
2012-11-16 08:58:25 PM

Party Boy: organizmx: Kanemano: [d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net image 480x397]

My friend Yousef (who was on MSNBC today talking about this) wrote a fantastic article about how difficult it is for him and his wife to travel back home, because he's technically an Israeli citizen, and she isn't. Its like two different planes they have to fly, two different airports, checkpoints, etc.

Please share.


I'm sure he'd appreciate the interest!

Not All Israeli Citizens Are Equal
 
2012-11-16 09:01:57 PM

organizmx: Party Boy: organizmx: Kanemano: [d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net image 480x397]

My friend Yousef (who was on MSNBC today talking about this) wrote a fantastic article about how difficult it is for him and his wife to travel back home, because he's technically an Israeli citizen, and she isn't. Its like two different planes they have to fly, two different airports, checkpoints, etc.

Please share.

I'm sure he'd appreciate the interest!

Not All Israeli Citizens Are Equal


Thanks! That was a very memorable article. I recall reading it when it came out.
 
2012-11-16 09:02:10 PM
We're talking about the land the British stole from Turkey, right?
 
2012-11-16 09:02:35 PM

zedster: theknuckler_33: You realize Israel blockades the shiat out palestinian territories, right? No, it's not one guy and a few of his buddies. Take my scenario and times it by thousands. They still aren't getting tanks and fighter planes into Gaza from Iran or elsewhere. They can only get stuff that can be smuggled in. Just because they can't fight a proper war doesn't mean their desire to strike back isn't just as strong. You seem to be suggesting that since they know they can't win, they should just submit to tyrannical oppresive rule... that was forced upon them unilaterally about 70 years ago with virtually no input on their part.

maybe they shouldn't have backed the Nazi's and pissed of the Brits who controlled the region, they did have input they backed the wrong sugar daddy and lost


You mean the Palestinians backed the folks fighting the Brits who took over their homeland a hundred (or more) years earlier? And you are BLAMING them for 'backing the Nazis'? Do you really think they gave a flying fark about the politics or even knew what the Nazis were doing? They wanted the Brits out because the farking Brits went in there and took over because the Brits thought those arabs were farking savages.
 
2012-11-16 09:04:46 PM

clambam: GAT_00: [i575.photobucket.com image 453x604]

Damn, what a shiatty life you have. Have you considered emigrating to one of those other 20 countries where people have exactly the same religion and speak exactly the same language you do, and have one million square miles of mostly empty territory in which to resettle you? No? How about that country right next door, Jordan, which is already 60% Palestinian Arab and which was actually your homeland until 1967? No? The only place you'll accept is the 6,000 square miles of territory in Israel, the one your grandparents emigrated to in the 1920's specifically to keep Jews out? I understand perfectly, you poor thing. Those five million mean ol' Jews are mistreating all 300 million of you innocent Arabs. You poor, poor losers.


Then you wonder why the entire world has wanted your people dead for thousands of years.
 
2012-11-16 09:04:49 PM

chuggernaught: Party Boy: Chilling.


Boobies nailed it.

That was pants shiattingly frightening.


I'm speechless. Goddamn, I can't imagine living under that. I wouldn't. I'd GTFO.
 
2012-11-16 09:07:28 PM

theknuckler_33: zedster: theknuckler_33: You realize Israel blockades the shiat out palestinian territories, right? No, it's not one guy and a few of his buddies. Take my scenario and times it by thousands. They still aren't getting tanks and fighter planes into Gaza from Iran or elsewhere. They can only get stuff that can be smuggled in. Just because they can't fight a proper war doesn't mean their desire to strike back isn't just as strong. You seem to be suggesting that since they know they can't win, they should just submit to tyrannical oppresive rule... that was forced upon them unilaterally about 70 years ago with virtually no input on their part.

maybe they shouldn't have backed the Nazi's and pissed of the Brits who controlled the region, they did have input they backed the wrong sugar daddy and lost

You mean the Palestinians backed the folks fighting the Brits who took over their homeland a hundred (or more) years earlier? And you are BLAMING them for 'backing the Nazis'? Do you really think they gave a flying fark about the politics or even knew what the Nazis were doing? They wanted the Brits out because the farking Brits went in there and took over because the Brits thought those arabs were farking savages.


Arafat Uncle pissed off the Brits enough that they kicked him out and lifted their blockade on Jewish immigration a bit. All hussani certainly played a role
 
2012-11-16 09:20:08 PM

zedster: theknuckler_33: zedster: theknuckler_33: You realize Israel blockades the shiat out palestinian territories, right? No, it's not one guy and a few of his buddies. Take my scenario and times it by thousands. They still aren't getting tanks and fighter planes into Gaza from Iran or elsewhere. They can only get stuff that can be smuggled in. Just because they can't fight a proper war doesn't mean their desire to strike back isn't just as strong. You seem to be suggesting that since they know they can't win, they should just submit to tyrannical oppresive rule... that was forced upon them unilaterally about 70 years ago with virtually no input on their part.

maybe they shouldn't have backed the Nazi's and pissed of the Brits who controlled the region, they did have input they backed the wrong sugar daddy and lost

You mean the Palestinians backed the folks fighting the Brits who took over their homeland a hundred (or more) years earlier? And you are BLAMING them for 'backing the Nazis'? Do you really think they gave a flying fark about the politics or even knew what the Nazis were doing? They wanted the Brits out because the farking Brits went in there and took over because the Brits thought those arabs were farking savages.

Arafat Uncle pissed off the Brits enough that they kicked him out and lifted their blockade on Jewish immigration a bit. All hussani certainly played a role


Lots of things played a role. Like Palestinians being pissed off that the Brits controlled their homeland since WWI.
 
2012-11-16 09:20:22 PM

theknuckler_33: It is one of two things or a combination of the two. They are fighting the great satan or simply just fighting against their oppressors any way they can. If you were in their situation, would you just sit by and take it? If I had multiple family members and friends who were completely non-militant that were killed by Israeli strikes or had their homes, businesses, lives ruined for no other reason than to create Israeli settlements in Gaza... I'd imagine that would make me pretty farking pissed off. With no recourse, legally... what do you do? After a while, I might just get so frustrated and insane with anger, that I might actually pick up and RPG and try to take out some of those MFers. I might. I'm not saying it's right... but I understand.


I do also. Now let's look at it from the other side:

It is one of two things or a combination of the two. They are fighting for the right to exist or simply just fighting against their sworn enemies and blood brothers any way they can. If you were in their situation, would you just sit by and take it? If I had multiple family members and friends who were completely non-militant that were killed by Palestinian strikes or had their homes, businesses, lives ruined for no other reason than to destroy Israeli settlements in Israel... I'd imagine that would make me pretty farking pissed off. With no recourse, legally... what do you do? After a while, I might just get so frustrated and insane with anger, that I might actually pick up an RPG and try to take out some of those MFers. I might. I'm not saying it's right... but I understand.

/see what I did there? 
//everyone involved has bloody hands
 
2012-11-16 09:25:53 PM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: /see what I did there? 


Yea, I do.
 
2012-11-16 09:26:20 PM

Blue_Blazer: chuggernaught: GAT_00: [i575.photobucket.com image 453x604]

GentleFarkers, THIS is how you troll.

Truth is trolling now? I missed that meeting.


Trolling as in getting attention, not necessarily passing off lies.
 
2012-11-16 09:30:40 PM
i1182.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-16 09:30:44 PM

theknuckler_33: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: /see what I did there? 

Yea, I do.


LOL, I agree with that. I'm just glad I'm neither Israeli nor Palestinian. It's a hard precarious life when you're born with prefab enemies.
 
2012-11-16 09:30:51 PM

CygnusDarius: If I had the money and resources, I'd:

1.- Use small nuclear weapons on both israel and palestine. Nothing big, but on key places (the Wall of Lamentations would be one, and since it's right next to a mosque, I'd hit two birds in one stone).
2.- do a massive announcement, basically saying "It was me. I am not tied to any both of the countries. I did it alone, with no one else helping me. I am waiting for you"
3.- Watch both countries unite against a common enemy. Peace is made.


Yeah that would work for the 10 minutes it takes for the Mossad to find you and kill you. Then they would just be back to arguing about who threw the first mud pie at whom. The situation in Israel and Palestine will take generations to solve (unless one side wipes the other out) and even then there will be tension for generations more.

//The situation is farked and arguing about who is less wrong just perpetuates the issues.

//Also arab culture is family clan tribe and maybe nation in that order
 
2012-11-16 09:33:34 PM

theknuckler_33: GAT_00: JFC: So.
What was with the photos of children and elderly folk while the Israeli was talking?
What was the point of that?

To show that Israel can do no wrong.

It would only have been more amusing if while the Palestinian was talking that they showed militants with grenade launchers and machine guns and their head wraps (don't know the proper name for that).


Shemaghs
 
2012-11-16 09:34:08 PM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: theknuckler_33: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: /see what I did there? 

Yea, I do.

LOL, I agree with that. I'm just glad I'm neither Israeli nor Palestinian. It's a hard precarious life when you're born with prefab enemies.


Indeed. You came in mid-conversation there.
 
2012-11-16 09:34:54 PM

d23: a no carrier joke on Fark in 2012?


[thatsthejoke.jpg]
 
2012-11-16 09:36:02 PM

Mazzic518: theknuckler_33: GAT_00: JFC: So.
What was with the photos of children and elderly folk while the Israeli was talking?
What was the point of that?

To show that Israel can do no wrong.

It would only have been more amusing if while the Palestinian was talking that they showed militants with grenade launchers and machine guns and their head wraps (don't know the proper name for that).

Shemaghs


Thanks... I nearly used the word 'towel'. *eyeroll*

/It is damned hard fighting against my upbringing sometimes!
 
2012-11-16 09:37:57 PM
We should deliver justice for the entire Middle East from orbit.

Then we can be sure.
 
2012-11-16 09:38:55 PM

organizmx: Party Boy: organizmx: Kanemano: [d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net image 480x397]

My friend Yousef (who was on MSNBC today talking about this) wrote a fantastic article about how difficult it is for him and his wife to travel back home, because he's technically an Israeli citizen, and she isn't. Its like two different planes they have to fly, two different airports, checkpoints, etc.

Please share.

I'm sure he'd appreciate the interest!

Not All Israeli Citizens Are Equal


FTA:

If we lived in the region, I would have to forgo my residency, since Israeli law prevents my wife from living with me in Israel. This is to prevent what Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu once referred to as "demographic spillover." Additional Palestinian babies in Israel are considered "demographic threats" by a state constantly battling to keep a Jewish majority. (Of course, Israelis who marry Americans or any non-Palestinian foreigners are not subjected to this treatment.)

Not too many places in the world can get away with blatant racism like that.
 
2012-11-16 09:43:55 PM
At 2:30, the point is made -- the innocent people are the ones who suffer for the insanity of those who want to have power. The ordinary Jose (the 99%) just wants to live a comfortable, secure life. Their lives are made horrid by that vile 1% who don't mind bombing any/everybody all to hell.
 
2012-11-16 09:45:54 PM

theknuckler_33: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: theknuckler_33: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: /see what I did there? 

Yea, I do.

LOL, I agree with that. I'm just glad I'm neither Israeli nor Palestinian. It's a hard precarious life when you're born with prefab enemies.

Indeed. You came in mid-conversation there.


I actually did read the entire thread, I just didn't connect one post with the other. My apologies. This whole mess could be averted if the nations backing the respective sides did so in good faith, and not for selfish reasons. Without support, both sides would be back to throwing rocks. Both sides are being played as (willing) pawns by their and other countries' leaders.
 
2012-11-16 09:46:00 PM

theknuckler_33: Mazzic518: theknuckler_33: GAT_00: JFC: So.
What was with the photos of children and elderly folk while the Israeli was talking?
What was the point of that?

To show that Israel can do no wrong.

It would only have been more amusing if while the Palestinian was talking that they showed militants with grenade launchers and machine guns and their head wraps (don't know the proper name for that).

Shemaghs

Thanks... I nearly used the word 'towel'. *eyeroll*

/It is damned hard fighting against my upbringing sometimes!


www.fbastard.com
 
2012-11-16 09:50:19 PM

GAT_00: [i575.photobucket.com image 453x604]


it's amazing the justifications people will make for their terrorism but not as amazing as the stupid Westerners who'll propagate those justifications
 
2012-11-16 09:51:00 PM

Captain Steroid: [i1182.photobucket.com image 640x360]


Where's that from?
 
2012-11-16 09:55:42 PM

Mrtraveler01: organizmx: Party Boy: organizmx: Kanemano: [d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net image 480x397]

My friend Yousef (who was on MSNBC today talking about this) wrote a fantastic article about how difficult it is for him and his wife to travel back home, because he's technically an Israeli citizen, and she isn't. Its like two different planes they have to fly, two different airports, checkpoints, etc.

Please share.

I'm sure he'd appreciate the interest!

Not All Israeli Citizens Are Equal

FTA:

If we lived in the region, I would have to forgo my residency, since Israeli law prevents my wife from living with me in Israel. This is to prevent what Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu once referred to as "demographic spillover." Additional Palestinian babies in Israel are considered "demographic threats" by a state constantly battling to keep a Jewish majority. (Of course, Israelis who marry Americans or any non-Palestinian foreigners are not subjected to this treatment.)

Not too many places in the world can get away with blatant racism like that.


That is the crux. Blatant Mother farking Racism. Call it whatever you want same shiat different pile.
 
2012-11-16 10:01:17 PM
New news

Israeli peace activist: Hamas leader Jabari killed amid talks on long-term truce
Hours before Hamas strongman Ahmed Jabari was assassinated, he received the draft of a permanent truce agreement with Israel, which included mechanisms for maintaining the cease-fire in the case of a flare-up between Israel and the factions in the Gaza Strip. This, according to Israeli peace activist Gershon Baskin, who helped mediate between Israel and Hamas in the deal to release Gilad Shalit and has since then maintained a relationship with Hamas leaders.

Baskin told Haaretz on Thursday that senior officials in Israel knew about his contacts with Hamas and Egyptian intelligence aimed at formulating the permanent truce, but nevertheless approved the assassination.

"I think that they have made a strategic mistake," Baskin said, an error "which will cost the lives of quite a number of innocent people on both sides."
 
2012-11-16 10:03:15 PM

Party Boy: New news

Israeli peace activist: Hamas leader Jabari killed amid talks on long-term truce
Hours before Hamas strongman Ahmed Jabari was assassinated, he received the draft of a permanent truce agreement with Israel, which included mechanisms for maintaining the cease-fire in the case of a flare-up between Israel and the factions in the Gaza Strip. This, according to Israeli peace activist Gershon Baskin, who helped mediate between Israel and Hamas in the deal to release Gilad Shalit and has since then maintained a relationship with Hamas leaders.

Baskin told Haaretz on Thursday that senior officials in Israel knew about his contacts with Hamas and Egyptian intelligence aimed at formulating the permanent truce, but nevertheless approved the assassination.

"I think that they have made a strategic mistake," Baskin said, an error "which will cost the lives of quite a number of innocent people on both sides."


How long are Hamas/Israeli truces good for again? 2 weeks? Isnt that the average before someone does something?
 
2012-11-16 10:04:28 PM
just curious, but if the US were to bomb Israel, who would come to Israel's aid?
 
2012-11-16 10:07:38 PM
Israel's response to the atrocities it commits, "bbbbut Palestinians are bad too!"
 
2012-11-16 10:08:21 PM

stonelotus: just curious, but if the US were to bomb Israel, who would come to Israel's aid?


Germany

Seriously. German people cannot get over what their fathers did.
 
2012-11-16 10:15:27 PM

stonelotus: just curious, but if the US were to bomb Israel, who would come to Israel's aid?


Yahweh
 
2012-11-16 10:16:20 PM

cman: THIS IS NOT AN AMERICAN ISSUE

Stop it

Stop politicizing this crap

This is NOT a left/right issue

Stop making it one


An American ally dropping US-supplied bombs on a neutral party using mostly American money to fund their operations in breaking a treaty that was partially brokered by the US in a region full of US allies and economic interests isn't an American issue?

Wow, that's not even modern isolationist, that's like 1870s isolationist. Where the hell did you come from?
 
2012-11-16 10:20:12 PM
Hamas has a brilliant strategy. Hide out among civilian populations, shoot at Israeli civilian populations and when the retaliation against Hamas also kills civilians, it makes Israel look bad
 
2012-11-16 10:21:21 PM

Jim_Callahan: cman: THIS IS NOT AN AMERICAN ISSUE

Stop it

Stop politicizing this crap

This is NOT a left/right issue

Stop making it one

An American ally dropping US-supplied bombs on a neutral party using mostly American money to fund their operations in breaking a treaty that was partially brokered by the US in a region full of US allies and economic interests isn't an American issue?

Wow, that's not even modern isolationist, that's like 1870s isolationist. Where the hell did you come from?


No, what I am biatching about is the left v right portion. The left feels like it has to attack the right. This is ultrapartisanship at its worse.

We have been supporting Israel for a long time. Now that the right has made supporting Israel one of their big things, the left HAS to shiat on them, just like the right has to shiat on the left for all the things that they do.

One of the biggest issues in the 2012 elections was about the middle east. People on the left said shiat like "A vote for Jill Stein is a vote for Mitt Romney and allowing Israel to do whatever the fark they want". Well, guess what? Obama is letting Israel do whatever the fark they want, and you sit here biatching about the right while giving your guy a free pass. Ultrapartisanship, thats what this is
 
2012-11-16 10:26:13 PM

cman: THIS IS NOT AN AMERICAN ISSUE

Stop it

Stop politicizing this crap

This is NOT a left/right issue

Stop making it one


Welp, today I'm in a mood for calling people out, so...um, bullsh*t. The right has spent at least ten years (how long I've had any knowledge of politics personally) saying exactly one thing about Israel: Palestine is the aggressor and the Gaza Strip belongs to Israel, ISRAEL MUST WIN AT ALL COSTS! And they're saying that because, as evangelicals, they believe the only way to bring about the Second Coming is for Jerusalem to be destroyed. So they want a war. They want a violent, chaotic war.

I'm actually kind of sorry if you didn't already know this, but this is what the right has been saying and is saying today. That's why everyone claims Obama is anti-Israel, and why Bush was seen as 'pro'-Israel. It's a relationship intended to destroy Israel because they think that's what Christ wants.

Can't get much more political or religious than that.
 
2012-11-16 10:28:03 PM

PsiChick: cman: THIS IS NOT AN AMERICAN ISSUE

Stop it

Stop politicizing this crap

This is NOT a left/right issue

Stop making it one

Welp, today I'm in a mood for calling people out, so...um, bullsh*t. The right has spent at least ten years (how long I've had any knowledge of politics personally) saying exactly one thing about Israel: Palestine is the aggressor and the Gaza Strip belongs to Israel, ISRAEL MUST WIN AT ALL COSTS! And they're saying that because, as evangelicals, they believe the only way to bring about the Second Coming is for Jerusalem to be destroyed. So they want a war. They want a violent, chaotic war.

I'm actually kind of sorry if you didn't already know this, but this is what the right has been saying and is saying today. That's why everyone claims Obama is anti-Israel, and why Bush was seen as 'pro'-Israel. It's a relationship intended to destroy Israel because they think that's what Christ wants.

Can't get much more political or religious than that.


See my above post
 
2012-11-16 10:30:58 PM

Mrtraveler01:

Not too many places in the world can get away with blatant racism apartheid like that.


That's better.
 
2012-11-16 10:33:14 PM

PsiChick: cman: THIS IS NOT AN AMERICAN ISSUE

Stop it

Stop politicizing this crap

This is NOT a left/right issue

Stop making it one

Welp, today I'm in a mood for calling people out, so...um, bullsh*t. The right has spent at least ten years (how long I've had any knowledge of politics personally) saying exactly one thing about Israel: Palestine is the aggressor and the Gaza Strip belongs to Israel, ISRAEL MUST WIN AT ALL COSTS! And they're saying that because, as evangelicals, they believe the only way to bring about the Second Coming is for Jerusalem to be destroyed. So they want a war. They want a violent, chaotic war.

I'm actually kind of sorry if you didn't already know this, but this is what the right has been saying and is saying today. That's why everyone claims Obama is anti-Israel, and why Bush was seen as 'pro'-Israel. It's a relationship intended to destroy Israel because they think that's what Christ wants.

Can't get much more political or religious than that.


images.wikia.com
 
2012-11-16 10:37:54 PM

MrPenny: Mrtraveler01:

Not too many places in the world can get away with blatant racism apartheid like that.

That's better.


No its racism too. Ask your average Jew about the Palestinians and watch the spittle fly!
 
2012-11-16 10:38:55 PM

2xhelix: Just go back to pre-1967 borders and end the BS already. This has gone on way too long.

 
2012-11-16 10:39:46 PM

cman: See my above post


About Germany? That...really doesn't change the fact that, in America, it's political.

/If you're saying that America would come because of the Holocaust and not the End Times, well, some, but not the political folks. The political folks tend to overlap more with the End Times folks than the Holocaust ones. Which is ridiculous given that you'd think religious people would be the most horrified at the Holocaust because of the whole 'be nice to people' thing...but yeah, no, there's a lot of Fark links where they outright admit it, albeit in smaller publications.
 
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