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2012-11-16 07:58:57 PM
Just go back to pre-1967 borders and end the BS already. This has gone on way too long.
i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-16 07:59:49 PM

theknuckler_33: Blue_Blazer: theknuckler_33: To farking hell with the both of them. Palestinians sure as shiat target civilians because they fire rockets nilly-willy wherever they go. Israelis are assholes because if 3 Israelis are killed, they kill 1500 Palestinian 'militants'.

fark them both in the ass. Go to war, you are on your own. FOAD and EABOD.

Point of order here: the Palestinian rockets are hardly capable of being aimed. I will not speculate as to whether it would make a difference. Probably not, as neither side seems interested in avoiding civilian casualities.

That was the point, they don't have weapons sophisticated enough to aim precisely at military targets, they just fire off rockets towards the nearest towns/cities. And, frankly, I don't blame them.


What is accomplished in doing so though? I mean, is it the equivalent of blowing off steam?

I don't understand how it moves forward on any strategic military goals, they're not taking anything over, they're not clearing a hole in the wall to lead a counter-force through, and they aren't engendering anyone to want to sit and discuss how to make something better once they land rockets in Isreal.

I don't know what the good solutions are, but I don't see how lobbing unaimable rockets at random is anything other than bringing the wrath of a titan back upon them. It would be like being in prison and punching a guard because I'm pissed about being there (there's even an argument that I might be imprisoned unjustly)... I may hurt him ever so slightly, but he then has every ability to respond with unchecked force and will be seen as having some justification in doing so. Furthermore it hurts me when I'm standing in court trying to argue my case.
 
2012-11-16 08:00:53 PM

clambam: those other 20 countries where people have exactly the same religion and speak exactly the same language you do


You know how I know you never studied Arabic or Arabic culture?
 
2012-11-16 08:00:56 PM

2xhelix: Just go back to pre-1967 borders and end the BS already. This has gone on way too long.
[i.imgur.com image 850x609]


Something is wrong with those maps. They are missing the Golan heights annexation.
 
2012-11-16 08:02:06 PM
They all need to have their toys taken away.
Nobody in the region is innocent.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2012-11-16 08:02:26 PM
a no carrier joke on Fark in 2012?
 
2012-11-16 08:03:55 PM
We must protect Israel so our Lord and Savior can return. Even if it means murdering hundreds of Palestinian civilians. Jesus won't care right? He'll be cool with our support of some third world hellhole killing innocent civilians who only want their fair share of that "paradise", right?
/Fark Israel
//Fark your lord and savior
///Stop supporting Israel "at all costs".
////I have Jewish roots, but I wouldn't call myself a Jew
 
2012-11-16 08:04:16 PM
d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net
 
2012-11-16 08:04:40 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: They all need to have their toys taken away.
Nobody in the region is innocent.


Nobody? I'd say no government in the region is innocent, but I would not paint the entire populace with the same brush.
 
2012-11-16 08:05:15 PM

Blue_Blazer: theknuckler_33: Blue_Blazer: theknuckler_33: To farking hell with the both of them. Palestinians sure as shiat target civilians because they fire rockets nilly-willy wherever they go. Israelis are assholes because if 3 Israelis are killed, they kill 1500 Palestinian 'militants'.

fark them both in the ass. Go to war, you are on your own. FOAD and EABOD.

Point of order here: the Palestinian rockets are hardly capable of being aimed. I will not speculate as to whether it would make a difference. Probably not, as neither side seems interested in avoiding civilian casualities.

That was the point, they don't have weapons sophisticated enough to aim precisely at military targets, they just fire off rockets towards the nearest towns/cities. And, frankly, I don't blame them.

Fair enough, but it kinda sounded like you were suggesting they intentionally fire rockets at civilians. I judt wanted to make it clear that they don't really fire them AT anything, they just point them in a direction and shoot. Not that I am defending that.


Yea, it's hard for me to distinguish between firing blind and hitting whatever and 'targeting civilians'. Besides, the Israelis have their own argument against 'targeting civilians' anyway. so, what difference does it make? Like I said, fark 'em both. I'm 44 years old and this shiat has been going on since I've been paying attention to international relations when I was a teenager and this shiat was WAY OLD even then. I suppose you could point to the formation of Israel as the starting point, but... I'm having a hard time even buying that. There will never be peace in the middle east. We should just accept it and if for no other reason, that should be a reason for the US to pursue all forms of domestic energy production to entirely eliminate our dependence on the middle east. But the GOP's love affair with Israel requires us to be involved there and the idea of some sort of peace there just delays the realization that that will never happen and further inhibit our becoming energy independent.
 
2012-11-16 08:05:58 PM

clambam: GAT_00: [i575.photobucket.com image 453x604]

Damn, what a shiatty life you have. Have you considered emigrating to one of those other 20 countries where people have exactly the same religion and speak exactly the same language you do, and have one million square miles of mostly empty territory in which to resettle you? No? How about that country right next door, Jordan, which is already 60% Palestinian Arab and which was actually your homeland until 1967? No? The only place you'll accept is the 6,000 square miles of territory in Israel, the one your grandparents emigrated to in the 1920's specifically to keep Jews out? I understand perfectly, you poor thing. Those five million mean ol' Jews are mistreating all 300 million of you innocent Arabs. You poor, poor losers.


Have you ever considered making a damn lick of sense?
 
2012-11-16 08:06:08 PM
Jews have Ark of Covenant.
 
2012-11-16 08:06:23 PM

clambam: GAT_00: [i575.photobucket.com image 453x604]

Damn, what a shiatty life you have. Have you considered emigrating to one of those other 20 countries where people have exactly the same religion and speak exactly the same language you do, and have one million square miles of mostly empty territory in which to resettle you? No? How about that country right next door, Jordan, which is already 60% Palestinian Arab and which was actually your homeland until 1967? No? The only place you'll accept is the 6,000 square miles of territory in Israel, the one your grandparents emigrated to in the 1920's specifically to keep Jews out? I understand perfectly, you poor thing. Those five million mean ol' Jews are mistreating all 300 million of you innocent Arabs. You poor, poor losers.


Oh joy, looks like the Israeli bots are here.
 
2012-11-16 08:06:30 PM

clambam: GAT_00: [i575.photobucket.com image 453x604]

Damn, what a shiatty life you have. Have you considered emigrating to one of those other 20 countries where people have exactly the same religion and speak exactly the same language you do, and have one million square miles of mostly empty territory in which to resettle you? No? How about that country right next door, Jordan, which is already 60% Palestinian Arab and which was actually your homeland until 1967? No? The only place you'll accept is the 6,000 square miles of territory in Israel, the one your grandparents emigrated to in the 1920's specifically to keep Jews out? I understand perfectly, you poor thing. Those five million mean ol' Jews are mistreating all 300 million of you innocent Arabs. You poor, poor losers.


I'm more American than you are, and not religious in the least.
 
2012-11-16 08:06:38 PM
We cannot let the deaths of those who choose to live in and support terrorist state deter us from the war on terror and the oppression of democracy. Israel is not only our most important ally, but the birthplace of our Savior. Allowing it fall into the hands of evil is an affront to the principles of liberty, and all we hold dear.

Have I got it about right, Fundies?
 
2012-11-16 08:08:33 PM

2xhelix: Just go back to pre-1967 borders and end the BS already. This has gone on way too long.
[i.imgur.com image 850x609]


That will make exactly ZERO difference.
 
2012-11-16 08:13:04 PM

Leo Bloom's Freakout: theknuckler_33: Blue_Blazer: theknuckler_33: To farking hell with the both of them. Palestinians sure as shiat target civilians because they fire rockets nilly-willy wherever they go. Israelis are assholes because if 3 Israelis are killed, they kill 1500 Palestinian 'militants'.

fark them both in the ass. Go to war, you are on your own. FOAD and EABOD.

Point of order here: the Palestinian rockets are hardly capable of being aimed. I will not speculate as to whether it would make a difference. Probably not, as neither side seems interested in avoiding civilian casualities.

That was the point, they don't have weapons sophisticated enough to aim precisely at military targets, they just fire off rockets towards the nearest towns/cities. And, frankly, I don't blame them.

What is accomplished in doing so though? I mean, is it the equivalent of blowing off steam?

I don't understand how it moves forward on any strategic military goals, they're not taking anything over, they're not clearing a hole in the wall to lead a counter-force through, and they aren't engendering anyone to want to sit and discuss how to make something better once they land rockets in Isreal.

I don't know what the good solutions are, but I don't see how lobbing unaimable rockets at random is anything other than bringing the wrath of a titan back upon them. It would be like being in prison and punching a guard because I'm pissed about being there (there's even an argument that I might be imprisoned unjustly)... I may hurt him ever so slightly, but he then has every ability to respond with unchecked force and will be seen as having some justification in doing so. Furthermore it hurts me when I'm standing in court trying to argue my case.


It is one of two things or a combination of the two. They are fighting the great satan or simply just fighting against their oppressors any way they can. If you were in their situation, would you just sit by and take it? If I had multiple family members and friends who were completely non-militant that were killed by Israeli strikes or had their homes, businesses, lives ruined for no other reason than to create Israeli settlements in Gaza... I'd imagine that would make me pretty farking pissed off. With no recourse, legally... what do you do? After a while, I might just get so frustrated and insane with anger, that I might actually pick up and RPG and try to take out some of those MFers. I might. I'm not saying it's right... but I understand.
 
2012-11-16 08:17:06 PM

Party Boy: clambam: those other 20 countries where people have exactly the same religion and speak exactly the same language you do

You know how I know you never studied Arabic or Arabic culture?


Oh I'm well aware that there are all sorts of ethnicities and cultural variations within Arab cultures. Nevertheless they all speak Arabic and they're virtually all Muslim. shiat most of them are Sunni Muslims. You might as well tell me I'm being insensitive by lumping Methodists in with Presbyterians. The fact remains, they could fit into a "new" culture with the same ease an American could fit into Australia. He might not be comfortable at first, but it would still be pretty easy.

I note you forgot to say something snarky about my "Jordan is 60% Palestinian" line. Because it's true. The Palestinians can't move there because the Hashemites are assholes? Oh boo hoo. Maybe they shouldn't have tried to overthrow King Hussein in 1970.
 
2012-11-16 08:18:13 PM

GAT_00: i575.photobucket.com


They took his JERB!
 
2012-11-16 08:19:23 PM
Can we just eat them all?
 
2012-11-16 08:20:24 PM

Keizer_Ghidorah: Can we just eat them all?


They are both kosher.
 
2012-11-16 08:21:11 PM

clambam: Party Boy: clambam: those other 20 countries where people have exactly the same religion and speak exactly the same language you do

You know how I know you never studied Arabic or Arabic culture?

Oh I'm well aware that there are all sorts of ethnicities and cultural variations within Arab cultures. Nevertheless they all speak Arabic and they're virtually all Muslim. shiat most of them are Sunni Muslims. You might as well tell me I'm being insensitive by lumping Methodists in with Presbyterians. The fact remains, they could fit into a "new" culture with the same ease an American could fit into Australia. He might not be comfortable at first, but it would still be pretty easy.


Like Iran?
 
2012-11-16 08:21:15 PM

clambam: Oh I'm well aware that there are all sorts of ethnicities and cultural variations within Arab cultures. Nevertheless they all speak Arabic and they're virtually all Muslim. shiat most of them are Sunni Muslims.


Ever speak Lebanese Arabic in Morocco? South Sudan? Aint gonna work. Its so different, it will make your head spin. The varieties of Islam is enough to make you go all mnemonic to memorize them.

Conflation doesn't come close to describing what you are doing.
 
2012-11-16 08:22:02 PM

theknuckler_33: It is one of two things or a combination of the two. They are fighting the great satan or simply just fighting against their oppressors any way they can. If you were in their situation, would you just sit by and take it? If I had multiple family members and friends who were completely non-militant that were killed by Israeli strikes or had their homes, businesses, lives ruined for no other reason than to create Israeli settlements in Gaza... I'd imagine that would make me pretty farking pissed off. With no recourse, legally... what do you do? After a while, I might just get so frustrated and insane with anger, that I might actually pick up and RPG and try to take out some of those MFers. I might. I'm not saying it's right... but I understand.


I completely agree on a lot of that, and desperation can make people do a lot of things, but the quantity of rockets crossing the border did not sound like one guy and maybe a few of his buddies snapping. It seems pretty large in scale and so, if you're going to organize at that level, wouldn't there be a little more direction?

Goals, targets you can hit with what you have, ability to make a clear message (maybe something like blowing a hole in the wall and killing gate guards to show you won't be caged in for example). With how many purportedly were shot (150-300?), couldn't they be employed in a way that makes a more military-style statement?
 
2012-11-16 08:25:00 PM
Lawrence of Arabia is on Turner Classic Movies right now.

/Watch and learn about the inscrutable Arabs.
//It is written.
//No, nothing is written.

Club Secretary: I say, Lawrence. You are a clown!
T.E. Lawrence: Ah, well, we can't all be lion tamers.

Prince Feisal: No Arab loves the desert. We love water and green trees. There is nothing in the desert and no man needs nothing.
 
2012-11-16 08:27:46 PM

Party Boy: clambam: Oh I'm well aware that there are all sorts of ethnicities and cultural variations within Arab cultures. Nevertheless they all speak Arabic and they're virtually all Muslim. shiat most of them are Sunni Muslims.

Ever speak Lebanese Arabic in Morocco? South Sudan? Aint gonna work. Its so different, it will make your head spin. The varieties of Islam is enough to make you go all mnemonic to memorize them.

Conflation doesn't come close to describing what you are doing.


Let's not also forget that Syria and Lebanon aren't exactly attractive alternatives at the moment. I suppose Jordan and/or Saudi Arabia might be locations to go to, but who knows what they immigration policies are and Palestinians might not be particularly enamoured about being under a monarchy rule.
 
2012-11-16 08:28:21 PM

Leo Bloom's Freakout: Goals, targets you can hit with what you have, ability to make a clear message (maybe something like blowing a hole in the wall and killing gate guards to show you won't be caged in for example). With how many purportedly were shot (150-300?), couldn't they be employed in a way that makes a more military-style statement?


I would suspect the goal is to goad Israel into overreacting and killing a bunch of civilians in Gaza and gaining international sympathy. As such, it doesn't really matter what they aim them at as long as they kill a few Israelis.
 
2012-11-16 08:30:46 PM

Party Boy: Chilling.



Boobies nailed it.

That was pants shiattingly frightening.
 
2012-11-16 08:31:00 PM

eiger: I would suspect the goal is to goad Israel into overreacting and killing a bunch of civilians in Gaza and gaining international sympathy. As such, it doesn't really matter what they aim them at as long as they kill a few Israelis.


To add one more thing. The Israeli leadership is in a tough position. They can't just not do anything, but, at the same time, almost anything they will do will backfire. Ultimately, there are only two possible solutions to this mess: a fair and equitable solution to the conflict or ethnic cleansing. And it seems like the current Israeli leadership is unwilling to countenance the former.
 
2012-11-16 08:32:33 PM

theknuckler_33: Let's not also forget that Syria and Lebanon aren't exactly attractive alternatives at the moment. I suppose Jordan and/or Saudi Arabia might be locations to go to, but who knows what they immigration policies are and Palestinians might not be particularly enamoured about being under a monarchy rule.


They werent before this, too. Theres refugee camps with serious poverty. Its a deep conflation to think "Arab" as an interchangeable cog to fit in somewhere else "Arab." It also divorces the issue from its historical roots of struggle for land and legitimacy and empire stretching back to the later 1800's. Its really not a position people can take seriously.
 
2012-11-16 08:32:40 PM

Leo Bloom's Freakout: theknuckler_33: It is one of two things or a combination of the two. They are fighting the great satan or simply just fighting against their oppressors any way they can. If you were in their situation, would you just sit by and take it? If I had multiple family members and friends who were completely non-militant that were killed by Israeli strikes or had their homes, businesses, lives ruined for no other reason than to create Israeli settlements in Gaza... I'd imagine that would make me pretty farking pissed off. With no recourse, legally... what do you do? After a while, I might just get so frustrated and insane with anger, that I might actually pick up and RPG and try to take out some of those MFers. I might. I'm not saying it's right... but I understand.

I completely agree on a lot of that, and desperation can make people do a lot of things, but the quantity of rockets crossing the border did not sound like one guy and maybe a few of his buddies snapping. It seems pretty large in scale and so, if you're going to organize at that level, wouldn't there be a little more direction?


You realize Israel blockades the shiat out palestinian territories, right? No, it's not one guy and a few of his buddies. Take my scenario and times it by thousands. They still aren't getting tanks and fighter planes into Gaza from Iran or elsewhere. They can only get stuff that can be smuggled in. Just because they can't fight a proper war doesn't mean their desire to strike back isn't just as strong. You seem to be suggesting that since they know they can't win, they should just submit to tyrannical oppresive rule... that was forced upon them unilaterally about 70 years ago with virtually no input on their part.
 
2012-11-16 08:35:16 PM

eiger: eiger: I would suspect the goal is to goad Israel into overreacting and killing a bunch of civilians in Gaza and gaining international sympathy. As such, it doesn't really matter what they aim them at as long as they kill a few Israelis.

To add one more thing. The Israeli leadership is in a tough position. They can't just not do anything, but, at the same time, almost anything they will do will backfire. Ultimately, there are only two possible solutions to this mess: a fair and equitable solution to the conflict or ethnic cleansing. And it seems like the current Israeli leadership is unwilling to countenance the former.


If they choose the latter, I'm fairly certain that the irony of their final solution to the Palestinian problem will be completely lost on them.

/yes, I went there
 
2012-11-16 08:35:22 PM

Party Boy: theknuckler_33: Let's not also forget that Syria and Lebanon aren't exactly attractive alternatives at the moment. I suppose Jordan and/or Saudi Arabia might be locations to go to, but who knows what they immigration policies are and Palestinians might not be particularly enamoured about being under a monarchy rule.

They werent before this, too. Theres refugee camps with serious poverty. Its a deep conflation to think "Arab" as an interchangeable cog to fit in somewhere else "Arab." It also divorces the issue from its historical roots of struggle for land and legitimacy and empire stretching back to the later 1800's. Its really not a position people can take seriously.


I didn't intend to diminish your earlier points at all, just add some others. I'm no expert on Arab culture, so I respectfully defer to your apparent expertise. But there are some obvious things about other 'local' Arab nations that even the casual observer should be well aware of.
 
2012-11-16 08:40:19 PM

theknuckler_33: I didn't intend to diminish your earlier points at a


I didn't think you were. If there was any tone to my last post, it was not intentional.

theknuckler_33: But there are some obvious things about other 'local' Arab nations that even the casual observer should be well aware of.


If we're going to approach this from an informed position, I couldn't agree more.

We also need a much better education on the Israeli portion of the Mid East too.
 
2012-11-16 08:40:22 PM

GAT_00: [i575.photobucket.com image 453x604]


GentleFarkers, THIS is how you troll.
 
2012-11-16 08:42:54 PM

DeltaPunch: sophus_tree: Holy fark. The guy says "You can hear what's happening and I'm not going to comment on that. We need to get past 'Who's the victim and who's the victimizer'--we need to get that out of the way and get on with things."

CNN: "Wait--what was that sound?"

"Those were Israeli warplanes bombing Gaza, but I'm not going to comment on that. I'm not going to let it interrupt this debate."

Wow. Hope I someday have brassies like this guy.

Yeah that was pretty awesome. He's trying to have a debate an the Israeli guy is just rattling off the ages of his daughters and grandparents....

As aside, who was that incredibly hot news anchor?!? My god she's gorgeous...


This. Nice images of the kids popped in for the sympathy effect.
 
2012-11-16 08:44:05 PM
Irony tag?: a Chromebook ad with "Ride of the Valkyries" playing popped up when I clicked.
 
2012-11-16 08:45:20 PM

theknuckler_33: Leo Bloom's Freakout: theknuckler_33: It is one of two things or a combination of the two. They are fighting the great satan or simply just fighting against their oppressors any way they can. If you were in their situation, would you just sit by and take it? If I had multiple family members and friends who were completely non-militant that were killed by Israeli strikes or had their homes, businesses, lives ruined for no other reason than to create Israeli settlements in Gaza... I'd imagine that would make me pretty farking pissed off. With no recourse, legally... what do you do? After a while, I might just get so frustrated and insane with anger, that I might actually pick up and RPG and try to take out some of those MFers. I might. I'm not saying it's right... but I understand.

I completely agree on a lot of that, and desperation can make people do a lot of things, but the quantity of rockets crossing the border did not sound like one guy and maybe a few of his buddies snapping. It seems pretty large in scale and so, if you're going to organize at that level, wouldn't there be a little more direction?

You realize Israel blockades the shiat out palestinian territories, right? No, it's not one guy and a few of his buddies. Take my scenario and times it by thousands. They still aren't getting tanks and fighter planes into Gaza from Iran or elsewhere. They can only get stuff that can be smuggled in. Just because they can't fight a proper war doesn't mean their desire to strike back isn't just as strong. You seem to be suggesting that since they know they can't win, they should just submit to tyrannical oppresive rule... that was forced upon them unilaterally about 70 years ago with virtually no input on their part.


I clearly didn't get across what I meant to if that's what you heard and my apologies to that. I was trying to say that the rockets leaving Gaza going into Isreal were of such a quantity that it didn't seem purely spontaneous, it seemed like the people who had the means had some level of coordination. As such, if you have that many people with that many arms... instead of losing the vast majority of your shots to the Iron Dome, why not storm a blockade site and launch hell on them there? Why not focus all of that firepower on a target that will engender less international sympathy for Isreal?

A few guys blowing their top and lobbing rockets is one thing, but if you have 100's of explosives on hand, but you have to face a tyrant, make every shot count.

By no means should they roll over to the oppression they see. Fight it, but if you are strategically disadvantaged and you know there will be overwhelming response no matter what, then attack intelligently. Again, strike at a point of oppression like the blockades or entry checkpoints.
 
2012-11-16 08:46:07 PM

Kanemano: [d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net image 480x397]


My friend Yousef (who was on MSNBC today talking about this) wrote a fantastic article about how difficult it is for him and his wife to travel back home, because he's technically an Israeli citizen, and she isn't. Its like two different planes they have to fly, two different airports, checkpoints, etc.
 
2012-11-16 08:46:13 PM
If I had the money and resources, I'd:

1.- Use small nuclear weapons on both israel and palestine. Nothing big, but on key places (the Wall of Lamentations would be one, and since it's right next to a mosque, I'd hit two birds in one stone).
2.- do a massive announcement, basically saying "It was me. I am not tied to any both of the countries. I did it alone, with no one else helping me. I am waiting for you"
3.- Watch both countries unite against a common enemy. Peace is made.
 
2012-11-16 08:46:36 PM

theknuckler_33: Party Boy: clambam: Oh I'm well aware that there are all sorts of ethnicities and cultural variations within Arab cultures. Nevertheless they all speak Arabic and they're virtually all Muslim. shiat most of them are Sunni Muslims.

Ever speak Lebanese Arabic in Morocco? South Sudan? Aint gonna work. Its so different, it will make your head spin. The varieties of Islam is enough to make you go all mnemonic to memorize them.

Conflation doesn't come close to describing what you are doing.

Let's not also forget that Syria and Lebanon aren't exactly attractive alternatives at the moment. I suppose Jordan and/or Saudi Arabia might be locations to go to, but who knows what they immigration policies are and Palestinians might not be particularly enamoured about being under a monarchy rule.


Last I heard Jordan still keeps their Palestinians in refugee camps like all the other countries that took them in. It's one of the things that keeps everyone upset at Israel. "Look at what they did to these poor people! They forced entire generations to be born in these conditions!" Um, no, the "host" countries continue to keep them in camps, where groups like Hamas and Hezbollah are the ones running food kitchens and providing medical care.

Again, these guys are being used as propaganda tools and meatshields by the other regimes. I will keep beating the drums about this: Syria is Israel's real enemy here. This whole thing is just to distract them from the Syrian border following the attack on the Israeli outpost. There is nothing for Hamas to gain from this, other than continued patronage from the Assad regime (as long as it may last). It is STUPID for Hamas to do except under orders. And if I hadn't seen that Mythbusters episode I would call Israel the bull in the china shop at this moment.
 
2012-11-16 08:46:46 PM

Granny_Panties: Is this Obama's fault?


Yep.
 
2012-11-16 08:46:57 PM

Kanemano: [d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net image 480x397]


Also, holy shiat, that might be the most beautiful girl I've ever seen.
 
2012-11-16 08:47:24 PM

chuggernaught: GAT_00: [i575.photobucket.com image 453x604]

GentleFarkers, THIS is how you troll.


Truth is trolling now? I missed that meeting.
 
2012-11-16 08:48:55 PM
We biatch about shiat in the USA, small things that affect our daily lives, but at least we don't have to worry about mortars falling into our dining rooms while we eat, or being killed by a derp laden suicide bomber with no brain and 60 lbs of C4 strapped to his/her chest blowing up the restaurant we are eating at with our families. I feel sorry for the moderates on each side, they are caught in a battle between Israel and Hamas, and there is nothing they can do but hope a shell doesn't land on their families or they aren't hit by a random unguided rocket. I hope that you people on both sides decide that killing civilians brings NOBODY to your side, it just makes you look like murderers of innocents. Please stop the killing. The children you are killing have no political affiliation, and are innocent. Please stop before this escalates to the point where Israel rolls out the tanks and just starts blowing up buildings one after the other.
 
2012-11-16 08:49:16 PM

theknuckler_33: You realize Israel blockades the shiat out palestinian territories, right? No, it's not one guy and a few of his buddies. Take my scenario and times it by thousands. They still aren't getting tanks and fighter planes into Gaza from Iran or elsewhere. They can only get stuff that can be smuggled in. Just because they can't fight a proper war doesn't mean their desire to strike back isn't just as strong. You seem to be suggesting that since they know they can't win, they should just submit to tyrannical oppresive rule... that was forced upon them unilaterally about 70 years ago with virtually no input on their part.


maybe they shouldn't have backed the Nazi's and pissed of the Brits who controlled the region, they did have input they backed the wrong sugar daddy and lost
 
2012-11-16 08:50:10 PM

BolloxReader: Again, these guys are being used as propaganda tools and meatshields by the other regimes. I will keep beating the drums about this: Syria is Israel's real enemy here. This whole thing is just to distract them from the Syrian border following the attack on the Israeli outpost. There is nothing for Hamas to gain from this, other than continued patronage from the Assad regime (as long as it may last). It is STUPID for Hamas to do except under orders. And if I hadn't seen that Mythbusters episode I would call Israel the bull in the china shop at this moment.


I think most of the Arab countries use Palestine for their own petty reasons. Which is sad, really.

/But I think all of us can agree there's been too much innocent blood shed on both sides
 
2012-11-16 08:52:24 PM

CygnusDarius: If I had the money and resources, I'd:

1.- Use small nuclear weapons on both israel and palestine. Nothing big, but on key places (the Wall of Lamentations would be one, and since it's right next to a mosque, I'd hit two birds in one stone).
2.- do a massive announcement, basically saying "It was me. I am not tied to any both of the countries. I did it alone, with no one else helping me. I am waiting for you"
3.- Watch both countries unite against a common enemy. Peace is made.


go back to reading watchmen you nerdy jackass
 
2012-11-16 08:52:59 PM

organizmx: Kanemano: [d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net image 480x397]

My friend Yousef (who was on MSNBC today talking about this) wrote a fantastic article about how difficult it is for him and his wife to travel back home, because he's technically an Israeli citizen, and she isn't. Its like two different planes they have to fly, two different airports, checkpoints, etc.


Please share.
 
2012-11-16 08:53:52 PM
So we agree that Lavatican law is as bad a Shari'ah law?
 
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