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2012-11-16 08:32:34 PM  
If only the cops had checked his dream journal earlier, they may have caught him even sooner.
 
2012-11-16 08:33:11 PM  
Lammers is being held on $500,000 and was charged with first-degree assault, making a terroristic threat and armed criminal action.

You know, I'm all for a preemptive strike and all, and good on the mom for reporting him, but I fail to see how you can arrest a guy for a crime he has yet to commit. Making a terroristic threat, ok..that's valid, but first degree assault? Armed criminal action? When did that actually occur? That makes about as much sense as me saying "I'm going to rob a bank", and then being arrested without having done it, and charged with bank robbery. Someone please explain the logic here.
 
2012-11-16 08:36:09 PM  

BeerGraduate: If only the cops had checked his dream journal earlier, they may have caught him even sooner.


Minority Report lies.

But, you are lied to, too.

Check your sign-posts.

*)
 
2012-11-16 08:36:33 PM  

skinink: I'm going to see Skyfall tomorrow. Can I rent this guy out so he can shoot the first person in the theatre to start talking or use their cell phone?


You need to get yourself to an Alamo Drafthouse. They just opened one up in Kansas City, about an hour from where I live. It's so worth it.

They have a very strict policy on texting, talking, or ringing phones. Also no kids under 6 and no unsupervised minors (aka teens). It makes going to the movies fun again.
 
2012-11-16 08:36:56 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Mashaka: Gyrfalcon: BackwardsHatClub: So if you confess your desire to shoot people to the cops you are making a terroristic threat? That seems... unfair. Confessing is now a crime?

They have to do something. Would you prefer people like this go to the cops and they say "Oh, okay. Off you go then, have a nice day!"

No. But this is where you introduce them to mental health services - not lock them in a cage for years, sitting there useless and getting even more bitter on the public's dime.

They may still do that. But first the cops have to arrest them. It's one of those pesky things that has to happen these days, since involuntary commitment laws are so tight. If you think someone is a threat to others, then the cops can get them mental health care--but not without arresting them. By law, they cannot just let them go if they feel the threat is valid.


/I can see the terroristic threat charge...yes, but the other charges seem to be trumped up from actions he had not committed. Seems to me that his confession of wanting to hurt and kill people shows intent, and he should be locked up in the nearest nut house, but perhaps the other charges were just a formality to hold him in jail until a judge can throw his ass in a rubber room..
 
2012-11-16 08:37:06 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: Lammers is being held on $500,000 and was charged with first-degree assault, making a terroristic threat and armed criminal action.

You know, I'm all for a preemptive strike and all, and good on the mom for reporting him, but I fail to see how you can arrest a guy for a crime he has yet to commit. Making a terroristic threat, ok..that's valid, but first degree assault? Armed criminal action? When did that actually occur? That makes about as much sense as me saying "I'm going to rob a bank", and then being arrested without having done it, and charged with bank robbery. Someone please explain the logic here.


It basically happened when a cop asked him if he was going to kill a bunch of people, and he said yes. Having taken the preparatory steps of buying the firearms pretty much seals the deal for the prosecutors office.
 
2012-11-16 08:38:17 PM  
Proof that time travel does not exist is that Stephenie Meyer lived to write those horrible novels.

/I would have killed the Bronte sisters too
 
2012-11-16 08:42:25 PM  

All_Farked_Up: Proof that time travel does not exist is that Stephenie Meyer lived to write those horrible novels.

/I would have killed the Bronte sisters too


Stand down.

Please let creation happen.

Thank you.
 
2012-11-16 08:43:00 PM  

Indubitably: All_Farked_Up: Proof that time travel does not exist is that Stephenie Meyer lived to write those horrible novels.

/I would have killed the Bronte sisters too

Stand down.

Please let creation happen.

Thank you.


P.S. Too late, bro...
 
2012-11-16 08:44:01 PM  

All_Farked_Up: Proof that time travel does not exist will not have been going to exist is that Stephenie Meyer lived to write those horrible novels.

 

FTFY
 
2012-11-16 08:44:35 PM  

Mashaka: "was charged with first-degree assault, making a terroristic threat and armed criminal action."

But he didn't actually do any of these, right?


Came here to ask same question. Whom did he threaten or assault, and what actions did he take while armed?
 
2012-11-16 08:45:39 PM  

Indubitably: All_Farked_Up: Proof that time travel does not exist is that Stephenie Meyer lived to write those horrible novels.

/I would have killed the Bronte sisters too

Stand down.

Please let creation happen.

Thank you.


Actually the sisters just needed to get laid. Then they wouldn't need to write such crap and start a whole genre.
 
2012-11-16 08:51:05 PM  
OK, I can't believe no one has commented on this yet.
Blaec Lammers, 20. Blaec ??
Is this pronounced Blake? This may be the stupidest creative spelling I have ever seen.
Plus, I am afraid ol Blaec is a few fries short of a happy meal...
 
2012-11-16 08:51:05 PM  
I'm usually not against cops, but these cops here are straight traitors to their country.
 
2012-11-16 08:52:04 PM  
"Blaec Lammers"
 
2012-11-16 08:53:54 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: Gyrfalcon: Mashaka: Gyrfalcon: BackwardsHatClub: So if you confess your desire to shoot people to the cops you are making a terroristic threat? That seems... unfair. Confessing is now a crime?

They have to do something. Would you prefer people like this go to the cops and they say "Oh, okay. Off you go then, have a nice day!"

No. But this is where you introduce them to mental health services - not lock them in a cage for years, sitting there useless and getting even more bitter on the public's dime.

They may still do that. But first the cops have to arrest them. It's one of those pesky things that has to happen these days, since involuntary commitment laws are so tight. If you think someone is a threat to others, then the cops can get them mental health care--but not without arresting them. By law, they cannot just let them go if they feel the threat is valid.

/I can see the terroristic threat charge...yes, but the other charges seem to be trumped up from actions he had not committed. Seems to me that his confession of wanting to hurt and kill people shows intent, and he should be locked up in the nearest nut house, but perhaps the other charges were just a formality to hold him in jail until a judge can throw his ass in a rubber room..


Depends on his lawyer. It's what I'd be arguing if it was me. Hopefully he gets a good one, but I don't know how proactive the public defenders are in that area.
 
2012-11-16 08:57:12 PM  

All_Farked_Up: Indubitably: All_Farked_Up: Proof that time travel does not exist is that Stephenie Meyer lived to write those horrible novels.

/I would have killed the Bronte sisters too

Stand down.

Please let creation happen.

Thank you.

Actually the sisters just needed to get laid. Then they wouldn't need to write such crap and start a whole genre.


"To create w/o sex: what is that?"

Grow up.
 
2012-11-16 08:57:53 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Bit'O'Gristle: Gyrfalcon: Mashaka: Gyrfalcon: BackwardsHatClub: So if you confess your desire to shoot people to the cops you are making a terroristic threat? That seems... unfair. Confessing is now a crime?

They have to do something. Would you prefer people like this go to the cops and they say "Oh, okay. Off you go then, have a nice day!"

No. But this is where you introduce them to mental health services - not lock them in a cage for years, sitting there useless and getting even more bitter on the public's dime.

They may still do that. But first the cops have to arrest them. It's one of those pesky things that has to happen these days, since involuntary commitment laws are so tight. If you think someone is a threat to others, then the cops can get them mental health care--but not without arresting them. By law, they cannot just let them go if they feel the threat is valid.

/I can see the terroristic threat charge...yes, but the other charges seem to be trumped up from actions he had not committed. Seems to me that his confession of wanting to hurt and kill people shows intent, and he should be locked up in the nearest nut house, but perhaps the other charges were just a formality to hold him in jail until a judge can throw his ass in a rubber room..

Depends on his lawyer. It's what I'd be arguing if it was me. Hopefully he gets a good one, but I don't know how proactive the public defenders are in that area.


FO.
 
2012-11-16 08:58:31 PM  

Indubitably: Gyrfalcon: Bit'O'Gristle: Gyrfalcon: Mashaka: Gyrfalcon: BackwardsHatClub: So if you confess your desire to shoot people to the cops you are making a terroristic threat? That seems... unfair. Confessing is now a crime?

They have to do something. Would you prefer people like this go to the cops and they say "Oh, okay. Off you go then, have a nice day!"

No. But this is where you introduce them to mental health services - not lock them in a cage for years, sitting there useless and getting even more bitter on the public's dime.

They may still do that. But first the cops have to arrest them. It's one of those pesky things that has to happen these days, since involuntary commitment laws are so tight. If you think someone is a threat to others, then the cops can get them mental health care--but not without arresting them. By law, they cannot just let them go if they feel the threat is valid.

/I can see the terroristic threat charge...yes, but the other charges seem to be trumped up from actions he had not committed. Seems to me that his confession of wanting to hurt and kill people shows intent, and he should be locked up in the nearest nut house, but perhaps the other charges were just a formality to hold him in jail until a judge can throw his ass in a rubber room..

Depends on his lawyer. It's what I'd be arguing if it was me. Hopefully he gets a good one, but I don't know how proactive the public defenders are in that area.

FO.


Word.
 
2012-11-16 09:02:15 PM  

Indubitably: All_Farked_Up: Indubitably: All_Farked_Up: Proof that time travel does not exist is that Stephenie Meyer lived to write those horrible novels.

/I would have killed the Bronte sisters too

Stand down.

Please let creation happen.

Thank you.

Actually the sisters just needed to get laid. Then they wouldn't need to write such crap and start a whole genre.

"To create w/o sex: what is that?"

Grow up.


The Bronte sisters started the whole horrid 'romance' genre. If someone had sthupped Charlotte early on the biatch wouldn't have felt the need to write her fantasies down and ruin literature forever.
 
2012-11-16 09:06:09 PM  

BackwardsHatClub: So if you confess your desire to shoot people to the cops you are making a terroristic threat? That seems... unfair. Confessing is now a crime?


Of course. Welcome to Obama's America.
 
2012-11-16 09:06:11 PM  

All_Farked_Up: Proof that time travel does not exist is that Stephenie Meyer lived to write those horrible novels.

/I would have killed the Bronte sisters too


What if killing her leads to something worse? Maybe she's the best option we have in this timeline.
 
2012-11-16 09:07:54 PM  
lh3.ggpht.com

RIP Twilight Sparkle


/pony thread
 
2012-11-16 09:09:16 PM  

aimtastic: Moms, this is what you get when you name your kid Blaec.


His name is Blaec? That's a major appliance, that's not a name!
 
2012-11-16 09:10:36 PM  

All_Farked_Up: Indubitably: All_Farked_Up: Indubitably: All_Farked_Up: Proof that time travel does not exist is that Stephenie Meyer lived to write those horrible novels.

/I would have killed the Bronte sisters too

Stand down.

Please let creation happen.

Thank you.

Actually the sisters just needed to get laid. Then they wouldn't need to write such crap and start a whole genre.

"To create w/o sex: what is that?"

Grow up.

The Bronte sisters started the whole horrid 'romance' genre. If someone had sthupped Charlotte early on the biatch wouldn't have felt the need to write her fantasies down and ruin literature forever.


Your criticism is duly noted.

Writing continues.
 
2012-11-16 09:12:00 PM  

Twitch Boy: [lh3.ggpht.com image 430x303]

RIP Twilight Sparkle

/pony thread


RIP?

FO.

Right here, right now.

Still kickin'.

Grrrrr.
 
2012-11-16 09:12:28 PM  
Look, I know we've all thought or talked about doing this at a Twilight movie, but you're NOT SUPPOSED TO ACTUALLY DO IT! O_O
 
2012-11-16 09:12:56 PM  

Gyrfalcon: BackwardsHatClub: So if you confess your desire to shoot people to the cops you are making a terroristic threat? That seems... unfair. Confessing is now a crime?

They have to do something. Would you prefer people like this go to the cops and they say "Oh, okay. Off you go then, have a nice day!"


I know I prefer that people get psycological help instead of multiple felony charges. He did nothing. He said he wanted to shoot people. Sounds like a cry for help. It isn't like he acted rational and refused to talk without an attorney present. I am sure his mother wanted help for her son and who knows how many times before this she tried. Without universal healthcare it is easy to fall through the cracks till you become dangerous. Lesson: never talk to the police. Never. They do not want to help you or protect you. They want you behind bars and with a lifetime felony record.
 
2012-11-16 09:15:30 PM  

Mija: Gyrfalcon: BackwardsHatClub: So if you confess your desire to shoot people to the cops you are making a terroristic threat? That seems... unfair. Confessing is now a crime?

They have to do something. Would you prefer people like this go to the cops and they say "Oh, okay. Off you go then, have a nice day!"

I know I prefer that people get psycological help instead of multiple felony charges. He did nothing. He said he wanted to shoot people. Sounds like a cry for help. It isn't like he acted rational and refused to talk without an attorney present. I am sure his mother wanted help for her son and who knows how many times before this she tried. Without universal healthcare it is easy to fall through the cracks till you become dangerous. Lesson: never talk to the police. Never. They do not want to help you or protect you. They want you behind bars and with a lifetime felony record.


You are lame.
 
2012-11-16 09:20:58 PM  
This is why, if you're actually going to do something this heroic, you don't farking talk about it!

/men who sparkle aren't usually into women.
//the more you know.
 
2012-11-16 09:22:18 PM  

skinink: I'm going to see Skyfall tomorrow. Can I rent this guy out so he can shoot the first person in the theatre to start talking or use their cell phone?


I believe this guy will be happy to oblige.

andygaudion93.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-11-16 09:31:29 PM  

Curse of the Goth Kids: "Blaec Lammers"



singleblink.files.wordpress.com

Nice read, Velma.
 
2012-11-16 09:35:22 PM  
On an unrelated note in MIssouri: About an hour and a half ago I was driving home. I heard sirens and looked in my rear view mirror, next thing I see is a car fly across the road on 3 wheels and a rim followed by 4 police cars. Drive a little further and I start seeing police cars come out from everywhere to try and catch up to the chase/try to cut him off at various side roads. I didn't follow the chase but about 30 mins later a friend told me she had seen about 20 cop cars at the middle school

/my CSB in MO tonight.
 
2012-11-16 09:36:29 PM  

Gary Fogel: skinink: I'm going to see Skyfall tomorrow. Can I rent this guy out so he can shoot the first person in the theatre to start talking or use their cell phone?

I believe this guy will be happy to oblige.

[andygaudion93.files.wordpress.com image 850x565]


Bad timing on that movie.

/great movie though
 
2012-11-16 09:37:34 PM  
Also, maybe it's just this shiatty work computer, but is anyone else annoyed by the description in the picture taking up half the kid's face? Or how about "news" channels with their crawlers and boxs and news alerts and fact bubbles and logos blocking out every interesting bit of what you're trying to watch?

I'm glad I brought vodka today.
 
2012-11-16 09:39:02 PM  
We need to round these crazies up, strap bombs to them, and run them into terrorist compounds, crack houses, etc.
 
2012-11-16 09:42:24 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: Lammers is being held on $500,000 and was charged with first-degree assault, making a terroristic threat and armed criminal action.

You know, I'm all for a preemptive strike and all, and good on the mom for reporting him, but I fail to see how you can arrest a guy for a crime he has yet to commit. Making a terroristic threat, ok..that's valid, but first degree assault? Armed criminal action? When did that actually occur? That makes about as much sense as me saying "I'm going to rob a bank", and then being arrested without having done it, and charged with bank robbery. Someone please explain the logic here.


He has a split personality. They got him on RICO charges.
 
2012-11-16 09:59:23 PM  

Mashaka: "A Bolivar police officer approached Lammers at a Sonic restaurant and coaxed him to the stationhouse without incident."

This is article is starting out well - now to read on...


What did he do, lay a trail of french fries?
 
2012-11-16 10:22:28 PM  
Looks like this Team Jacob vs. Team Edward shiat is getting real.

I'm a supporter of the 3rd party "Team Van" myself.
 
2012-11-16 10:23:06 PM  
Anyone else look at that guy's picture and think 'new faces of meth'?
 
2012-11-16 10:50:53 PM  
charged with First Degree Assault? For what?
 
2012-11-16 11:46:36 PM  

from my blood: We need to round these crazies up, strap bombs to them, and run them into terrorist compounds, crack houses, etc.


Agreed, but enough about Twilight fans.
 
2012-11-16 11:52:46 PM  
Blaec Lammers stated that he had a lot in common with the people that have been involved in those shootings. Blaec Lammers stated that he was quiet, kind of a loner, had recently purchased firearms and didn't tell anybody about it, and had homicidal thoughts,

They said I could be anything, so I became a mass murderer.....
 
2012-11-17 12:07:45 AM  
Yeah, right. This guy sounds more like the type that confesses to crimes they never committed. I'd check to see if he actually has any weapons before beating the fool to death.

But really, the last Twilight movie?

HAVEN'T THE AUDIENCE SUFFERED ENOUGH ALREADY?

I recommend watching them with the RiffTrax commentary. I've got the next to the last one around here somewhere and I think I've already downloaded the RiffTrax. Mike, Bill and Kevin can make a good movie more fun and a bad movie bearable. They can't do anything with a dull movie though. It's still painful to watch The Pod People. Best not to pay too much attention to the dialogue.
 
2012-11-17 12:37:32 AM  

advex101: charged with First Degree Assault? For what?


I'm not sure exactly what the definitions are in Missouri, but he bought a bunch of weapons, planned an assault, and a third party reported the information they had to law enforcement. During questioning, the guy confessed that his plan was to commit multiple homicides.

Maybe conspiracy charges would have made more sense, but I don't have a problem with law enforcement having something other than a catch and release policy for folks like that.

As far as the need for psychiatric help, I would guess that the sentencing may involve involuntary commitment to a secure mental health facility, rather than prison.
 
2012-11-17 12:49:33 AM  
Oh good. Like we need more of this.
 
2012-11-17 12:57:24 AM  

skinink: I'm going to see Skyfall tomorrow. Can I rent this guy out so he can shoot the first person in the theatre to start talking or use their cell phone?


Go to Alamo Drafthouse. NEVER a worry about idiots talking or cell-phoning in there. Ever. Ever.
 
2012-11-17 02:16:31 AM  
To the mother:

This is what happens when you name your kid 'Blaec' you stupid coont

/wtf
//seriously
 
2012-11-17 03:21:12 AM  
Now is not the time to be talking about gun control.
 
2012-11-17 03:35:03 AM  

Indubitably: Gyrfalcon: Mashaka: Gyrfalcon: BackwardsHatClub: So if you confess your desire to shoot people to the cops you are making a terroristic threat? That seems... unfair. Confessing is now a crime?

They have to do something. Would you prefer people like this go to the cops and they say "Oh, okay. Off you go then, have a nice day!"

No. But this is where you introduce them to mental health services - not lock them in a cage for years, sitting there useless and getting even more bitter on the public's dime.

They may still do that. But first the cops have to arrest them. It's one of those pesky things that has to happen these days, since involuntary commitment laws are so tight. If you think someone is a threat to others, then the cops can get them mental health care--but not without arresting them. By law, they cannot just let them go if they feel the threat is valid.

Cops are good mental-health evaluators, no?

Please.

Please seek community corrections, i.e. accountability at home. Thank you.


I don't know how it works elsewhere, but here in Seattle, the police pick the person up and bring them to a hospital for a mental evaluation. All the police do is secure them and transport them (well, the medics are the ones that transport them most of the time). Mental health professionals are the ones that evaluate the person and determine whether they need to be held and assessed further. If you can manage to play sane for a few hours you'll usually get to go home.
 
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