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(Think Progress)   Hostess: Damn those union thugs for making us go bankrupt. It had to be the unions and not at all us giving our CEO a giant-as-fark raise when we had no money. Yep, that's gotta be it   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 13
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2012-11-16 10:36:39 PM
4 votes:
How you can run a snack cake company into the dirt in this golden age of plentiful marijuana is beyond me...
2012-11-17 09:40:15 AM
2 votes:

WhyteRaven74: ReapTheChaos: how can you justify some guy making 25 bucks an hour when all he does is tighten the lug nuts on a car tire as it passes by on the assembly line?



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Another rocket surgeon who knows everything after listening to years of lectures at Limbaugh U.

First, economics: YOU FAIL. Try enrolling in a real university.....no Hollywood Upstairs School of Business doesn't count.....take few courses in economics.

Second, why don't you get back in your time machine and ask Henry Ford. Once upon a time, before the auto industry was unionized, Henry raised the pay of his workers from $1 per day to $5 per day. $5 per day was big money at the time. Why did he do that? Hmmmmmm.

Sell the antique collection of dildos you inherited from your grandfather and buy a plane ticket to Germany. German auto companies pay their workers $67/ hr on average....more than double US auto worker average. German auto makers are ALL unionized, unlike their American counterparts.....unlike their American counterparts, they are also profitable. Go see for yourself.

BTW, you wouldn't last an hour on an auto assembly line. "Mommy, the cars just keep on coming, it never stops! It was like one of Dante's circles of hell! Where's my bottle of oxy?"
2012-11-17 12:54:15 AM
2 votes:
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Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhxellent!
2012-11-17 06:36:43 AM
1 votes:

SockMonkeyHolocaust: Eh, I am a member of the SEIU and I ask myself all the time how much should a janitor or manual laborer or someone doing an easy job that anyone can be trained to do should really make. At what point do you say to a janitor that he really doesn't deserve a 60" TV and a middle class life? I was a pariah during out last strike because I agreed that costs for management are rising so I was prepared to pay a extra for our medical plan. Personally, I am considered "skilled labor" as a building mechanic so I guess that skews my perspective.


That's always been my take on unions, how can you justify some guy making 25 bucks an hour when all he does is tighten the lug nuts on a car tire as it passes by on the assembly line? I could give a rats ass if he's been working there 30 years or not. If people want to earn more money then they should get promoted or learn a more valuable skill.
2012-11-17 02:41:11 AM
1 votes:
Ahh Communists, proven wrong so many times throughout history but they just can't let go of the slacker dream.
2012-11-16 10:52:53 PM
1 votes:

OregonVet: ShawnDoc: From looking at the past, I've found that things like this happens when you have unreasonable douches on both sides.

Yah, woman interviewed on CBS earlier claimed she was a "twinkie straightener" and when asked why she wouldn't take a pay cut claimed, "well, then, I might as well go back to minimum wage!"


Did someone say Twink Straightener?

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2012-11-16 10:34:48 PM
1 votes:

seanpg71: It does if that's what the company agreed to pay you.


Okay, I get the sentiment, so I amend my statemen: Straightening twinkies for 37 years doesn't mean you deserve 50k/yr until you die after you retire.

If you get away with $20/hr to straighten twinkies for 37 years I have zero sentiment if you didn't put something away for yourself. And no benefit plan guarantees your pension comes to fruition. That's why they have collective bargaining. Because people are too stupid to straighten twinkies and plan for the future/think for themselves, "hay! I make $20 hour straightening twinkies!" at the same time.
2012-11-16 10:02:07 PM
1 votes:
Enjoy your foodstamps ObamaTards.
2012-11-16 09:55:03 PM
1 votes:
Correlation does NOT equal causation.

The CEO's raise had nothing to due with the bankruptcy and to claim it does is specious.

Did he earn more money that the line workers?

Yeah. So? Why does this bother you?
Bosses make more money.
If any of the union workers had truly planned their lives they would be CEOs or have their own companies but they didn't so they don't.

Stop biatching and being jelous of those who've done better than you.
Obama is a liar; you DON'T deserve other people's money.
2012-11-16 09:33:01 PM
1 votes:

veive: Now, I know a lot changes with science every year, so a lot of what I was taught in school is no longer valid, but I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that my math is still good and $2,550,000


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2012-11-16 08:53:09 PM
1 votes:
I could see retaining upper management under the circumstances for a publicly traded company, but not so much a private one. Bad management, but what was done was done. At least the union employees will have their principles to keep them warm over the winter.
2012-11-16 07:58:38 PM
1 votes:
Fark unions and fark the sheep that belong to them. That doesn't mean I agree with management, I just think union members deserve this kind of crap for blindly following their union bosses.
2012-11-16 07:57:42 PM
1 votes:
So we've got an exploded oil rig, turmoil in Jordan, escalating conflict in Israel, a big election coming up in Sierra Leone, and the eyes of America are focused on a snack cake company which may not be able to sell it's assets, resulting in one less cream filled treat on the market.

Got it.
 
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