whistleridge: Star Wars didn't work, and he was crazy.Even today, there's only about a 90% success rate on anti-missile weapons, and that's when we know exactly when they're going to be fired, what their vector will be, what size they will be, and we have all our anti-missile weapons powered up and waiting.There are 13,000 nuclear warheads in Russia.Let's assume 50% are pointed at the US, 50% are pointed at other targets: 6,500 pointed at us.Out of that 6,500, let's assume 50% actually work, and 50% fail to fire correctly: 3,250Out of that 3,250, let's assume that, despite the history of testing and results, star wars works with never-before-achieved accuracy and gets 99% of the incoming warheads: 3, 217.3,250 - 3, 217 = 33.So: even if only 1/2 of Russia's warheads are pointed at us (it's likely 2/3 or more), and only 1/2 of those work (likely more than 90% will work), and star wars somehow gets 99% of them (a more realistic rate would be 50%), we will still be hit by 33 warheads.If the average yield of a warhead is ~1500 kT (for comparison, the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs were in the ~12 - 20 kT range), that means that the US is going to be hit by 2,475 times as much nuclear force as that which brought the largest war in human history to an abrupt halt.But it gets scarier.Let's assume only 50% of those weapons are aimed at cities (many will be aimed at non-urban targets like King's Bay, and let's also assume there's a 50% overlap, so some cities get hit twice. That's still enough to rip the guts out of:- New York (major population and financial center, port)- LA (ditto)- Chicago (ditto)- DC (seat of government)- Philly (see NYC)- Houston (nation's biggest oil port)- New Orleans (nation's biggest grain port, oil a close second)- San Diego (home of the West Coast navy)- Norfolk/Va Beach (home of the East Coast navy)And that's at a bare bones minimum. Other cities highly likely to be destroyed even under this absurdly unlikely 'successful' defensive ...
furiousxgeorge: Not an ICBM.
Lsherm: FlashHarry: yeah, that's not star wars. more like better-working patriot missiles.The Patriot missile program was developed as part of the Ground Based Programs - Extended Range Interceptor section of the Strategic Defense Initiative, otherwise known as "Star Wars". It is very much part of that initiative, people just forget that it had other components besides space based interception.
Mi-5: naughtyrev: Let me know when they start shooting down rockets with space based lasers.DING DING DING. Thread over.Thanks for playing, Dumbmitter.
AngryTeacher: At least one Barak is keeping his country safe.
Remember when everybody on the Rightand left was saying "Man will never visit outer space, Jules Verne is crazy"?
xynix: FlashHarry: yeah, that's not star wars. more like better-working patriot missiles.This or whatever.Also, we don't know that the Starwars Program was ever scrapped. With the huge amount of money being pumped into globe destroying weapons in the 80s and shiatty accountability it would be easy to scrape off .1% and it never be noticed. I'm not a tin hat guy by any means but we ARE talking about Reagan and later Cheney.
xynix: With the huge amount of money being pumped into globe destroying weapons in the 80s and shiatty accountability it would be easy to scrape off .1% and it never be noticed. I'm not a tin hat guy by any means but we ARE talking about Reagan and later Cheney.
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